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From Remco:
Sorry for the omissions : Brussels 17 oct 2011:
Elegia
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
THE village
?????????
Waitin for sirens call nummer
1963
Bizarre love triangle
(USeD to think the world...) forgot title...
586
Perfect kiss
Temptation
(encore)
Blue Monday
Love Will tear
(preserving this to catch the excitement of seeing them back together after 5 years of inactivity)
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2011/ancienne-belgique-brussels-belgium-43d053f3.html has the correct version.
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
Age Of Consent
Love Vigilantes
Krafty
1963
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
586
The Perfect Kiss
Temptation
Encore:
Blue Monday
Encore 2:
Love Will Tear Us Apart
(Joy Division cover)
Writeup
Elegia
BS: "Hello. How are you doing? I hope you enjoy this as much as we're going to, because we are going to fucking enjoying it, I tell you. Eventually. OK? Just chill out for a little bit, just a little bit, and let's have some patience, please."
Not played since about 1987, this turns out to be an abbreviated version that segues right into Crystal.
Regret
BS: "All right. It's been a long time coming, but let's hope that it's going to be worth it. (To band mates) "OK?"
Stephen is playing with glasses on! Gillian looks ageless. Tom Chapman plays the basslines no worse than you-know-who.
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
Ceremony
BS: "There's slightly more where that came from. Can I say it's great to be back in Brussels again? It's been a very long time, but we find that most places we play it's a long time since we've played there before, because we don't play live that often. Anyway, we're here for you tonight, hope you enjoy it. This is Ceremony."
Bernard's guitar playing during the bridge is a bit suspect. What else is new?
BS: "'Q".
BS: "Morrissey? Did somebody shout Morrissey? Well actually, I think that our bass player, with his new hair style, looks quite like Morrissey, or Elvis maybe. And Phil, our guitarist looks quite a lot like Jerry Lee Lewis with that shirt on. Not to forget the master of the vibe, chairmain of the vibe, Mr. Stephen Morris [drum crash]. And welcome, big welcome back to New Order, Gillian...Morris. I almost said Gilbert."
AgeOf__Consent_
BS: "OK, bear with us with this one, we've not played this for a very long time, and we've not rehearsed it at all, I promise you."
BS: "'Q".
Love__Vigilantes_ follows.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Krafty
BS: "1963, I'll tell you now, we'll never ever ever ever play that song, not as long as I'm in the band. No way. One for the ladies, that one, and we don't care about the ladies at our age, well Phil is, and Tom is over there. Still got an eye for the phillies myself. Sorry, Tom is very fussy about the tuning on his bass."
The enthusiam down front for this number is quite simply astounding. I'm being sarcastic, nobody's even moving.
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
Then a strange pronouncement. Maybe his autocue crashed?
BS: "Windows XP, eh?"
BS: "Sez wot?"
1963
Of course, Bernard was taking the piss above about not playing this, it's the very next song!
BS: "Contrary to what I said before, this is 1963."
BS: (at end) "Thank you. Proper singing on that one, no shouting, proper singing...I don't need that one...[name] (waves off guitar roadie)..."
Bizarre__Love___Triangle_
BS: "We've got plenty more for you yet, don't worry."
Bernard ends up on his bloody knees. Madonna he's not.
BS: "Cheers!"
BS: "Are you enjoying it so far? [cheers of assent] Well that's the only thing that matters really, at least tonight."
True__Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is erm, let's see if you can guess what it is, because it might take you a little while to get hip to the groove."
A different remix version, it sounds like...it hearkens back to the Morning Sun remix, which is a good thing...at least for the first minute, as then we get the bog-standard version.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
Bernard than says points down front and points to a girl that had been getting crushed against the front, it seems.
BS: "...is the little girl ok, is she all right? Gillian(?), the little girl down in the front. You can lift her over there if you want. Some security. Please lift this girl over here. Can she play bass?" [Stephen drum crash]
BS: "All right all right, it's only a fucking joke. I didn't mean it that way. Why, I'm a twat after all. Jerry..."
586
BS: "All right, I got to be in tune you know, professional these days. Okay this is a song we've not played in a long time, so please bear with us."
Another one that hasn't been played live since about 1987.
Evil-sounding 5-8-6-6-6... intro. Phil's guitar actually greatly benefits the song, and is easily the best reworking of the bunch.
BS: "'k you!"
Then a quite funny bit.
BS: "That is this combination number of my suitcase, so if anyone finds it....you know. And the PIN number of my credit card as well. And the number on my burglar alarm at home. So...just forget it. Do you think I would be that stupid? [People yell out 'yes'!] All right, I'll change it then."
The__Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Okay...go!"
Has the original samples at the end. Gets a very enthusiastic response from the crowd.
Temptation
BS: "Right, we're nearly out of bullets now, but we're going to finish with a classic song and a slightly, kind of freshened up version of it. This is Temptation."
Reworked with a different-sounding intro (reminiscent of Lou Reed's "Street Hassle") that gives this song a bit of new life. Good on 'em!
BS: "Thank you! That's it. Cheers, thanks very much!"
(encore)
Blue__Monday_
I take what I said back. Tom Chapman's bass on here is painful to listen to.
Bernard does a 'looking at his watch' bit after he sings, "Now I stand here waiting". I understand how you feel, mate! And near the end, he comes over to Gillian's keyboard and plays it...
BS: "Thank you!"
Love__Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Turn it up a bit, Jerry. Okay, this is...are we allowed to play Joy Division songs tonight? If you give us your permission...all right, we'll play one."
He caws out "C'mon!" a couple of times.
BS: "Cheers! Thanks very much. That was fucking fantastic, we loved it, and we love you. Thank you, goodnight!"
Reported as the same setlist as Paris:
Elegia >
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
Age Of Consent
Love Vigilantes
Krafty
1963
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
586
The Perfect Kiss
Temptation
Encore:
Blue Monday
Encore 2:
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Taper who captured the entire set included the audio for the Michael Shamberg bit as well as a female French compere who introduced the group in French, and then spoke in English.
French lady: "Hi everyone. Where are all the English tonight. Yi! Nice. So as you know, we are all here to support Michael Shamberg, and after this show there will be an aftershow, at the [name]. It's a club. The info is all over here. You can ask anyone. So we hope you all come and support the cause. And some great DJ's are playing tonight...with New Order, Stephan is going to DJ tonight. And you can all see the exhibition at Gallery Ivana de Garbardines on the sixth, so you all come and support. Have a great show. Bye guys!"
Elegia
BS: "How you doing? We're going to [?] here tonight, but we're going to start with a slow song...and obviously we would like to dedicate the whole set to our dear friend Michael Shamberg who isn't very well...let's have a round of applause(?) please, cause he's watching this on TV in America.
Segues right into Crystal
BS: "Thank you!"
Regret
BS: "You all right! It is hot. But it's not as hot down there as it is up here, I tell you...it's frigging boiling. But it's nothing I regret."
BS: "'Q".
BS: "Just...with the lights..[can't quite make out what he's saying]"
Ceremony follows.
Age__Of___Consent_
BS: "Okay. [something]. All right, here we go."
During the 'I lost you' bit..."Back up a little bit...back up!". I guess it was getting a bit crazy up front with this one.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! There's a bunch of people getting squashed at the front there."
Love__Vigilantes_
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Anybody got towels up here, it's [?] hot up here. Towels. I expect some to be there[?]"
Krafty
BS: "Is everybody enjoying themselves? All right, [hope there's?] more were that came from. Okay, start the drum machine."
(at end)
BS: "Yo!"
1963
BS: "Whose idea was it to go out last night? It was mine actually.
Somebody says 'Tin Tin'.
BS: "Actually it was Tin Tin's, our DJ, but he can't...just can't help himself...turn the lights down please...Okay, here we go."
BS: "'k you!"
Bizarre__Love___Triangle_
BS: "Hair of the dog, hair of the dog....why do you have to ask us that, what kind of dog is it? Okay, that's obviously the slow ballady one in the set. and from here onwards we're going to pump up the beats. [cheers] Unfortunately, for me. All right, here we go."
Last lines are 'I'm waiting for that final moment, where you sing the words...'
BS: "Woo!"
True__Faith_
BS: "We got one that's got guitar in it. In your own good time, Steve, when you're ready..."
BS: "Cheers! Thank you!"
586
BS: "I hear you French people like to dance, is that true? Okay, we're gonna test you for the next few songs. You're from Belgium. Well, I saw you lot dancing last night. Okay, when you're ready, Adolf."
Brilliant "5-8-6-6-6-6-6-6...." intro.
This features lots of Bernard gestures, good for those hearing-impaired I guess. Actually, this song is the most impressinve reworking I've heard yet, and actually benefits from Phil's guitar work.
BS: "Muchas gracias."
The__Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "We're having a Windows XP moment again. We all refuse the charge."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
Chats of "New Order".
Temptation
BS: "Okay, this is our last song. [groans] We gotta finish somewhere! We're getting on a bit, y'know, we can't go on as well. We love you as well, we really do."
'Street Hassle' opening again.
BS: "Thank youuuu!!!"
Blue__Monday_
No introduction, the band just play it.
BS: "She's had enough! Already, it's only the second gig, and she's had enough. Think it must be me. I have that effect on other musicians."
(referring to Gillian, presumably)
Love__Will___Tear__Apart_
BS: "That sounds shit. Okay, that sounds a bit better, doesn't it? Okay, [?] boys and girls, let's get started."
(at end)
BS: "Thank youuu!! Who would have thought that such a sad song would one day have been so joyous. Thank you, you've been a great audience, we... fucking loved it. Good night!"
Reported as the same setlist as Brussels and Paris:
Elegia >
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
Age Of Consent
Love Vigilantes
Krafty
1963
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
586
The Perfect Kiss
Temptation
Encore:
Blue Monday
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Regret
BS: "Cheers, muchas gracias. At least we're New Order, I'm sure you know already. It's fantastic to be in Buenos Aires again. We had such a great time when we were here last time. It's a great city, it's a great country, thank you."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
Ceremony
BS: "...the danger of being onstage, that's highly unprofessional, you know. We have been criticized for being unprofessional. Okay, Voltaire(?)"
Love__Vigilantes_
BS: "Anyone got a corkscrew?"
Someone calls out, "Wankers!"
BS: "Wankers, did someone say wankers then? Do you know...do you know what that means in English? He must be watching through his hotel bedroom window." [a quite funny reference to their dear departed bassist]
Bernard then opens up the bottle he wanted the corkscrew for.
BS: "It's mineral water...it's just...[bit in Spanish?]
Lots of cheering.
BS: "We don't know what it means, but we like it."
1963
BS: The problem with this mineral water is that it evaporates so quickly. Er, it's the closest thing...
Bizarre__Love___Triangle_
BS: "If you ask me a question one more time, I'll answer it for you, but we will be here all night. "Are you having a good time"? That's the only question I have to ask. We're only half the equation up here, the audience are the other half, so you are as important as us, so we're going to start the section of the set now which is pretty dancey, so we want you all to get dancey...ok, ready?"
True__Faith_
BS: "We're going to Brazil tomorrow, I just hope it's not this cold in Brazil, is it this hot?" Bernard then mutters something.
Temptation
BS: I'm afraid we've reached the state of proceedings where this is the last song. We'll be back in another five years, what's the problem? Okay, here we go."
(at end)
BS: "Muchas gracias. Por favor, from Manchester, England. Thank you, you've been a fucking fantastic audience. Thank you very much, Buenos Aires."
Love__Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Thank you. Think about breaking out our 12-string guitar, don't know if you have thought about it, but we only have five fingers.
[Bit of a false start]
BS: "Okay, all right, here we go."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, you've been a fantastic audience ...[?]... Buenos Aires, thank you. Cheers, thank you!"
Source courtesy of Whiskybob (DIME).
pre-gig intro music is A Man Called Gerald's 'Voodoo Ray'.
Elegia starts out without any introduction, and segues into Crystal.
BS: "Cheers, muchas gracias."
Regret
BS: "Okay, go for it Steve."
(at the conclusion)
BS: "Thank you. We've just been on tour in South America, and as you can imagine, it was really awful over there. Boiling hot, sunshine, cocktails being poured down our throats all the time. So, we're so happy to be back here in London, we're going to play a very special set for you here tonight, because you're WORTH IT!"
Ceremony
BS: "I don't know what's special about it though. I'll make something up at the end [Steve cymbal crash]. Start the drum machine, Steve."
Bernard screams the chorus a bit.
Age__Of___Consent_
BS: "Okay?"
Love__Vigilantes_
BS: "Sometimes a big wall is a big waste of time. Occasionally, it comes in handy. As is tuning your guitar. We're punks you know, Phil, we don't fuck about tuning up."
(off mic) "Right right right right"
BS: "Ok".
(at end)
BS: "Woo! I wrote that song about Vietnam, but it was a long time since I was there, not many people know that I was over there."
Someone calls out for 'World In Motion'. Haha.
Krafty
BS: "Okay, light a match."
BS: "All right, you fucking animal(?) Stephen Morris! A first time for everything."
1963
BS: "Chill out a bit, we're going to play a very sensitive song now, for those of you who are sensitive in the audience. Do we have any sensitive people in the audience? Currently everyone. This is a beautiful sensitive song, so bear with us, and we'll play the rough stuff afterwards."
The song concludes, and Bernard gets into a long speaking bit.
BS: "Thank you. Are you enjoying yourselves so far? Is there a big welcome in the South for Manchester. Well, it's only me from Manchester, he's from a place called Macclesfield [drum crash] which is not the nicest place in the world. Actually, I'm from a place called Salford, which is eh...Macclesfield has a distinction [drum crash] for being voted the most uncultured place on the planet, and Salford has the distinction for being voted the most violent place on the planet [more Steve drums] so it produced us. All right, not very funny, but interesting. Er, Di, we're getting a bit of ringing up here, don't know if it's from Phil's wedges, you know what it's like, these fucking rock guitarists, everything's got to be twice as loud as everything else.
"Di", of course, is Diane Barton, who at this stage was handling the mixing desk.
Bizarre__Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, ... the start of [this]?"
Ends in a woo.
TC: "Thank you."
True__Faith_ follows.
lyric: "We are afraid of what is real..." instead of "they're afraid of what they see" or "they're taking drugs with me."
BS: "Thank you."
586
BS: "All right, it's not bloody Level 42, you know. Ready?
[Bernard then says a few words I can't make out]
BS: "This is for Stuart!"
Somebody near the taper is practically ventilating, exclaiming, "Fookin' hell...what song was that, what song was that, they've never played that... Jesus Christ...fookin' hell, oh my God."
The__Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Di, I can't have people whistling, I got a little bit of feedback on the PA. The audience are deliberately trying to confuse me. Can any of you whistle?"
[People go ahead and whistle]
BS: "So it sounds like feedback. Bastards! Sort it out, love."
Temptation
BS: "Just give us a second to tune up, will you? Now don't all shout at once, because we can't understand what you're saying up here. One at a time, please. How about you over there first? 'Fuck off, you Mancunian cunt!' Right. All right, if it's going to be like that, we'll just get right on with it... right, Steve. Start the engines."
(at end)
BS: "Thank youuuu!"
Encore break follows.
Alan Wise takes the stage.
punter: "You fat bastard!"
AW: "Bad Lieutenant, what a band. What a band Bad Lieutenant are. But not as good as the Beatles and the Stones, of course, or Max Bygraves. But they're pretty good, not as good as Max Bygraves, who I like, or Trotsky, who used to play this hall. You know Trotsky, the revolutionary? He used to play this hall. Look, I'm going to get the band back for you a bit...but...I'm a bit riled up, they've not been paying me very well, which is why some people have left. They've not been paying me, so if everyone can give a pound to the doorman on the way out, that's thirty thousand pounds I'll get, and if you can just do that, you'll get the group to come play again for about twenty minutes. Is there a deal? [cries of both 'Yes' and 'No'] Is there a deal where you'll give a pound to the doorman for Alan? And that way the band can play a bit more. And they're just in the khazi at the moment, in a Napoleon trap. And I think a couple of them have fixed it up. And one's snorting something. And I don't know what Bad Lieutenant are doing, but they're all getting ready again. So, I want you to start a rhythmic chant, shouting the name that you so admire that I've forgotten. What's the name of the band? [indistinct shouts] Would you like them back? Well, here they are for you, New Order!"
BS: "You said five minutes."
Blue__Monday_ follows.
BS: "Thank you! Hope you've had as great a time as we have, and that you're going to have a fantastic Christmas and New Year and all that shit, and the shopping and all that shit, and the snow and the rain. This is Love__Will___Tear___Us___Apart_."
Which concludes the set, "c'mon"'s and all.
BS: "Thank yooouuuu! We'll be back. Even without Freddy Mercury."
taper: "Too many 'come on's. Four."
I only counted three, but I have to admit blanking out a bit after that.