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John Frye found the following review of the performance by Dave Roberts of Sounds:
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds2-83Live.htm
Frank Worral interviews Peter Hook and has a tidbit about the show as well. It's the usual journalistic baiting otherwise.
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM2-83.htm
Don't miss the bottom picture if you get a chance!
Your Silent Face appears in Fac71, of course. The audio is monoaural.
Gillian is wearing a thin-strap pink tubetop. Hooky is in a plain white T-shirt. The band are lit in that eerie blue glow. Bernard's vocals sound double-tracked, and yes, one of the pillars is in the way of the cameraman.
I have two copies of this. The first is on tape, not take from the "New Dances" (missing Leave Me Alone) or "Radio Pictures" (missing Truth) bootlegs. My copy is missing "Truth" and "Denial", meaning it's probably from "New Dances" with Denial being left off my cassette for space reasons.
The second is a second-generation copy, same master as the prior, but with much more clear sound (thanks to booomboom from sharethegroove.org for sharing)
Setlist: Your Silent Face, Temptation, Ceremony, Truth, Leave Me Alone, Denial, 586, Age Of Consent, Blue Monday
Your__Silent___Face_
Tidbits of a conversation can be heard through the intro.
guy: "What can anyone do?"
girl: "What did you say?"
guy: "Hello? wot?"
The guy says something else and the girl giggles.
PH: "A bit more bass drum through the front, please, Ed."
Temptation
Pleasant bass synth effect.
Fade between Ceremony and Leave__Me___Alone_ on boot-sourced version. There's a fade between Leave Me Alone and Denial on the "booomboom" copy, as well as a cut between 586 and Age__Of___Consent_.
Blue__Monday_
punter: "John, Johnny Gilmore, Johnathan!"
Intro synth fades out to just the drumbeats, and then comes back in.
punter: "...talk to me!"
another punter [in strained voice]: "What is going on??"
CW says he has "Truth" from the soundcheck.
Soundcheck is from a newly surfaced source, taped from the Whitworth St. side entrance.
Your__Silent___Face_ appears in instrumental form. This is the first time this track is aired on UK soil. One of the punters is heard to say, "Aww...brilliant...is it possible?".
Bernard one-two's a few times for the sound crew to check vocal levels. He then says, "Ed, less vocals." Presumably, Ed responds, but his reply is difficult to make out among the din.
Then you can hear Hooky play 586 bass bits, and then the following conversation:
punter #1: "Ever Heard Of The Village?"
punter #2: "Wha'?"
punter #1: "The Village. Have they..." [at this point #2 interrupts,
and they're talking at the same time]
punter #2: "The Village?"
punter #1: "Yeh?" [synth]
punter #2: "What have you heard about the Village?"
punter #1: "Have they done that track yet?"
punter #2: "The Village, The Village. Is that the new track?
punter #1: "Yeah." At this point Bernard starts yelling to the sound
crew.
punter #2: "Oh...cool. Tell us about it! Is it [good?]
punter #1: "Yeah."
Then Hooky and presumably Oz exchange comments, there's a tape edit at this point.
A vocal take of 586 follows, followed by some keyboard parts, which melds into Blue__Monday_. Another unintelligable Hooky comment, and then the sound of a motorbike passing by (remember, this was taped outside the door). Than a vocal take of Truth and a bunch of both Barney and Hooky saying "one-two" to round things out.
Tape from 'Dave Mings' listed as M/2-ish.
In_A__Lonely___Place_
Opens with some early-80s yuckage playing over the PA, before it transitions into the dulcet tones of this masterpiece.
Punter yells at 1:02, "Get down you wanker!". Somebody else follows up, "Get out". Lots of chatter simmering at the surface during Barney's first verse. Hard to make it out but you can hear "freaking out" at one point. At 2:07, somebody really close to the mic says something like "Trixie", most mysterous.
Lots of calling out in the gap between songs, of course.
Age__Of___Consent_
Bernard's intro a bit off key.
Band tunes up between songs.
Ultraviolience
A particularly good version.
lyric: "Burned my soul/in this hellhole"
On the BV version I have, after this you can hear a punter mysteriously exclaim, "C'mon Julian" (twice) and "drop the tenner"...and (a bit further away) a "C'mon Bernie".
Chosen__Time_
A tiny bit of soundchecking before they start up. Whistling and cheering at the end, and some shout outs.
We__All___Stand_ follows.
Everythings__Gone___Green_
Not the epic version of the old days, but a mere 4:14 in length. Bernard Sumner's guitarwork being the highlight here.
The__Village_
Last line before the refrain mentions "shit".
Dreams__Never___End_
Punter says "wot's that?" at the start.
Procession
Cut at end, cutting out the first bit of the next song. Other versions also split at this point.
Hurt and Temptation close out the set, each song having been a seperate encore.
Hurt has a strange stuttering bit in this performance, listen for it!
Soundcheck
About 85 minutes in length.
Sound quality's not that great. Lots of barely audible shouting from the stage and muttering among the guys recording this.
Side A
You can hear the bootleggers talking for the first part, setting up. "Where's Steve Morris? I'm sure he's on drums."
It's just a shakily-played keyboard melody, but it is identifiable as Ecstasy, which as far as I know has never been played live.
Side B
"Wake up Barney!" (shouted from the stage) "Probably quite rusty haven't played so long" (muttered near the recording mic)
The bootleggers are talking about miscellaneous and sundry things, like how to get backstage, and can somewhat be heard, as there's no playing.
"Steve was just the lad, going along for the ride"
Near the end, somebody starts singing "Inside me, Inside my soul" (from Denial) The starstruck fan apparently was a loss for words when Bernard and Stephen apparently came up to talk to them. Kind of funny to hear the bootlegger talk about having just taped the soundcheck before the tape runs out.
Source is a somewhat-hissy, but fairly good-sounding tape from the archives. An even better 2nd version has surface that includes all ten tracks.
Ultraviolence
Titled "Who Killed My Father" on the cassette, which is also the first line. Intro has a neat slap-bass sound. There's a cutout at 1:25. Hooky's bass cuts through Bernard's first line in the second verse, and seems fairly pronounced.
Chosen__Time_
Some chattering (in Swedish) between songs and during the intro. Left channel dropout at 2:25 or so. Loud cheering after this is done. Edit. On the complete version, Bernard say something I can't make out, something like, "That's not the first..."
After a rousing version Dreams__Never___End_, the band tentatively start into We__All___Stand_. Senses follow. On the incomplete version, the Volume on right channel drops and slowly rises again from about 3:45 to 4:00. Ends with "shooting" synth songs.
Swedish punter sounds like he's saying "y'all kiss his grits", heh.
BS: "All right, we're gonna slow everything down a little now, next one's a ballad."
Titled "Cramp" on my cassette label, I wouldn't call Hurt much of a slowdown. Hooky's bass sound is especially dominating in the live mix. A bit of an epic, this one, ending cheers fade out.
The__Village_
Second time this one is played.
Hooky's bass fills differenciate this song from how it usually sounds.
Ends in tuning guitars.
Age__Of___Consent_
Hooky's plays the intro on the wrong string, or at the wrong pitch! Vocals are low in the mix here. Some cut-outs between the 1:20 and 1:30 mark. (old version)
A/B flip at this point.
Blue__Monday_
Bit of a false start, lasting about 20 seconds.
Temptation
The band go off for 15 minutes but finally come back on. Lots of clapping at the start. Hooky tunes up a bit right before the song starts up.
Description from http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/neworder/no_disc/notapes.html
Bootleg lists:
the beach, in a lonely place (?), icb, dreams never end, "move back, scooter blocking", (3 miles to go), leave me alone?, (I'm not the kind), temptation, (heard you calling), "doors jammed, we can't get out", everything's gone green
I looked this show up in AIFL. The author mentions that Bernard had to ask the crowd to step back because a lot of people were getting crushed against the stage. Right after this, there was a "very important" announcement about a scooter blocking some truck. The license # given matched the AIFL author's scooter, and he rushed outside to find the scooter hosted high into the air on some sort of fork lift! Peter Hook is heard to announce something like "You better show some respect, 'cause there's some big blokes up here that'll TEAR YOUR FUCKIN' 'EAD OFF!" (see what he actually says below -ed.) At the end of the show (before the encore) Bernard announces something about "the only reason we're back is 'cause the door's jammed and we can't get out".
Anyway, all this talking is audible and intelligible on the tape, unlike a lot of tapes (and concerts) where they're sayin' shit on the stage the nobody can understand ;-)
From: "Tony Maddocks" <tony@boswellsxxx.net>
Newsgroups: alt.music.new-order
Subject: Re: Anyone going to the Apollo
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:14:58 -0000
Sounds like the Brixton gig went down really well.
First time I saw NO was at the State in Liverpool I think it was '83 or 4. Lucky to get 30 mins out of them then! The gig was marred by Manc/Scouse banter "You bunch of lathargic Scouse bas@£ds", and so on. I remember Barney snatching a camera out of some amxious guys hands only th photograph him and return it! Great but short set. I was only thinking yesterday what a shame we never hear Doubts or Dreams Never End live anymore.
Source MP3 on Anthology Part One. I have this elsewhere on at least three separate tapes and two different CDs. The 'Confused Dreams' bootlegs edits out a lot of the interesting between-track bits.
In_a__Lonely___Place_
PH: "This is the brass section. If the Jam can do it, I'm sure we can."
Dreams__Never___End_
Essential performance of this classic.
We__All___Stand_
BS: "Listen, you better move back. Everyone had better move back, right, cuz a lot people are getting hurt and thrown."
Somebody comes up on stage...
" S.S..Sorry to interrupt you here but we got a very important announcement here. There's someone who owns a scooter, SMG643Y, that's SMG643Y, now if they can go and remove it, because it's causing obstruction to one of the trucks. Thanks a lot, and don't spit at me."
This of course was the scribe Mark Johnson's scooter, New Order weren't too happy with the way he was following the band and decided to play a practical joke on him and have his scooter lifted up.
PH: "What's that? [smooch] Worth waiting for!"
Confused Dreams leaves this out, what a shame. Leave__Me___Alone_
PH: "16, I think. It's been a long time."
Age__Of___Consent_
BS: "This one's a fast one for all you bollock brains."
Temptation
PH: "You shouldn't swear, there are several big blokes here that'll RIP YER FUCKING 'EAD OFF"
586
NO call out "Confusion!" during the chorus.
Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "One, two! Listen, we've only come back on because the door's jammed and we can't get out."
(mp3 has Bernards announcement about why they came back edited out)
"A halo that covers my balls..."
End has song fading out to a reggae tape...
Tape I have marked as second generation. Quality very good, gig well-recorded. Setlist on nogig is correct. A few other versions exist as well.
Sounded like a fairly rowdy gig, with technical problems. Guess that's normal for Mancs playing to Scousers.
586
PH: "We'll wait till..."
(you can hear a keyboard line from BM at a couple of points)
Hooky blurts out something about four minutes in. The first few minutes consist of simply the bass riff, as NO is presumably trying to get stuff to work right. Song lasts a total of more than ten minutes.
Procession
PH: "A bit more light please, Andy."
(a moment later)
"A little bit more, mate."
(a moment after that, sounding a tidge consterned)
"Andy, a little bit more light please!"
The start of Dreams__Never___End_ falls apart a bit.
Your__Silent___Face_
(crowd is apparently not hearing what they want to hear and getting rowdy...somebody can be heard to cry out "Get on with it, you fuckers!)
BS: "Shhhhhhhh...."
Long break between YSF and We__All___Stand_, you can hear the crowd getting more restless.
Ultraviolence follows. Lovely synth effect at the end, which continues through the pause between tracks.
The__Village_
People can be heard shouting for their JD favorites like Transmission and Warsaw, there's a long break between Ultraviolence and The Village.
BS: "You tell us what to play and we won't play it!"
Punters cries out for Ceremony and Warsaw.
BS: "Airight, this one's by the Human League, we're into cover versions now."
PH: (tsks-tsks) "Whatever happened to tolerance?"
PH: "Wot?"
Finally, after a long time, the track starts.
PH: "Well, clap along with it!"
Age__Of___Consent_
Bernard says something at the start I can't make out.
Ends with a Hooky bass solo that goes on for about a minute, and elicits cheers.
In_A__Lonely___Place_
BS: "Sorry, we've got huge technical problems."
Ceremony
PH: "This is the one that Sequential Circuits have been waiting for. No. Ready? A bit of light Andy onstage, please!"
Sequential Circuits Prophet V's with the original chipset, forget what it's called at the moment, are notoriously unreliable and detune quickly, so maybe that was the problem in this case.
(after song is through)
BS: "Ah, we're finished, you can go home."
First appearance of New Order on TOTP. Unlike the rest of their contemporaries, they performed their hit live. Barney sports a blue denim jacket and dreamy eyes. The four minute edit version would be featured on a number of other '83 gigs. At the end, Barney looks at Hooky, who smiles.
Better quality PAL->NTSC dub.
Tracks aired:
Age__Of___Consent_
Blue__Monday_
A bit more serious than their previous appearance on TOTP.
This version of Blue Monday has a unique opening sample not present anywhere else...starts out with "And there was light..."
Confusion
The debut!
taper: "Barney's playing bass!"
female companion: "Quite unusual."
taper: "They've changed 'round."
female companion: "Really?"
Age__Of___Consent_ and Procession follow.
The latter includes some alternate lyrics, the specifics I will note at some future point.
lyrics: "Your live is your own, your life is your own, I need you to stop."
Then In_A__Lonely___Place_ followed by Leave__Me___Alone_.
After last "leave me alone" line, Barney goes "Fuck off."
Senses also has the extra verse when started appearing during the '83 live dates.
Hooky calls out "Ready?" off-mic at the start.
At this point, there's an edit and break on the tape between the last number and 586.
There's quite a racket and Bernard giggles throughout the second verse, as well as hitting notes not otherwise recommended. Some improv lyrics and swearing.
lyric: "In the future, when you want me up your fanny. I will help you / when you call out for that twat."
BS: "How was that, [can't make out] spit...how's that for professionalism?"
Folks cry out for all sorts of stuff. New Order settle for Denial.
Slight droput between the end of the last song and Temptation. Barney also throws in a guitar bit from somewhere.
Some alternative lyrics in this, too.
More folks shouting out for their favorites.
BS: "I'll take Ceremony over a fucking ambulance."
Hooky twangs his bass.
BS: "That's a big one and a smaller one."
Lots more shouting out before Blue__Monday_ starts up.
BS: "A bit more DMX, Ed."
The intro gets a bit pear-shaped. Vocals get 'interesting' at points.
Soundcheck
Starts with the tail end of Procession, a full take of ICB followed by Temptation, which on this tape is only the ending.
At the start of ICB somebody yells out something about a DMX.
Courtesy of cmkcmk on DIME.
Here's what he had to say:
"To warn you at the outset, Your Silent Face is all over the place tape speed wise. But apart from that this is a superb show in the be-chandeliered Assembly Rooms and well worth having. It is crystal clear and a great show. The Wake supported this night with Bobby Gillespie borrowing Hooky's bass for the show. As was once said elsewhere on the sleevenotes to The Wake CD reissues, there were moments of confusion during the early part of The Wake's set as to whether it was The Wake or New Order as New Order weren't the most visible of bands in terms of press photos and appearances at this time.
This was their second open to all ages show in Edinburgh following on from the previous night's show at the local roller disco 'Coasters'... and my second new order show. Over the next few nights I went up to St Andrews and then Glasgow to see them, but this I think was the best of them.
New Order are on fine form - Barney hitting the notes, mix full of trademark early 80s echo and delays and 'Dreams Never End' and 'Ceremony' are blistering. The echo on the drum after Hooky half shouts 'soul' in Dreams Never End sent a chill down my spine that night. Ceremony is at the usual breakneck speed of the times.
I got this show at a record fair, but not until 1987. it was also not from the usual new order bloke and without the usual sort of cover - it came in a normal tape box with the standard sony inlay with writing on it. Up to then I had never been able to find a copy for sale.
I don't know exactly where it was recorded as the crowd were pretty wild that night and they sound a bit distant on the tape.
There are some poor edits between the songs which were on the original tape and as I said, 'Your Silent Face' is a bit all over the place until the tape speed settles. This could be sorted with pitch adjustment software and patience. I have the former but little of the later sadly!"
Another version via TJ also exists.
Transcription
Your__Silent___Face_
The tape speed is indeed 'fact' until about 3:47. (CNK)
Squeal edit between songs on the CNK version. The TJ version has a cut here, with the first part of the next song missing.
Hurt and Dreams__Never___End_ follow.
Strange lower-pitched-than-normal bass sequencer on Ultraviolence as well as on We__All___Stand_.
Another squeal edit between tracks. (CNK)
A/B split on the TJ version.
Truth
Syndrum is really loud here.
The__Village_ also has speed issues here....or maybe it was played fast!
PH: "Pause for thought."
Squeal edit Chosen__Time_ and a blistering Ceremony, where Bernard repeats 'forever, forever, forever' as the final lyric.
Confusion
Second time it makes an appearance, the tape is quickly faded out.
Thanks to TJ for supplying the recording, which is about first or second generation.
Stephen Smith also has a version that's a bit different, he writes:
"My cassette is a bit lacking in the higher frequencies unfortunately, not sure how many generations this one is (I got it from a guy who sold live tapes in our town). Probably one for completists only.
Audience chatter to start with, one guy says 'Why do you always stand behind the giants?â' SSomeone else says something about a bald eagle, which I take it means there was a bald guy in front of them.
Blue__Monday_
This is the short version. About thirty seconds of audience chatter before this starts out with SM banging real drums, right before the drum machine kicks in.
Age__Of___Consent_
Fairly unusual to see this so early in the set.
Procession is followed by Your__Silent___Face_.
Bernard sings 'why don't you fuck off?' as the signature line.
The__Him_ is next.
BS: "Will the er, person who threw beer on stage at the beginning kindly see us in the dressing room cos we'd like to buy him another one afterwards." (thanks to Stephen Smith for supplying)
Leave__Me___Alone_
Falters a bit past midway as Hooky hits a bum note, and all but the drums stop.
The final five seconds or so is cut.
Stephen Smith: "No cut on my cassette, plays right through."
Some guitar soundchecking in front of Ceremony.
Stephen Smith: "In between songs one guy shouts to his pal "Tam", who shouts back 'See you outside at the phone box when it's finished, right.'"
586
Syndrum plus real drums. KW1 sequencer kicks off briefly by mistake, a byproduct of the sequencers failing so they jammed into the Velvets Sister__Ray_ until fixed by the roadies.
Sample lyrics:
'I saw you on the inside'
'You saw me on the outside'
'You sucked my ding-dong'...
Very cool reverb effects.
PH: "Spent three weeks working on that one."
Dreams__Never___End_
PH: "This is one for band that follows us we call 'Bollock Brains'.
TJ notes that this was added to the set because of their sequencer problems.
(at end)
PH: "Well, that was one of you fuckers then."
Confusion
Third ever performance.
Vocals start off pretty dire.
In_A__Lonely___Place_ finishes off the set.
lyric: 'Blood that was special for none'
Ends in synth effects.
Tape squeal at end.
Stephen Smith: "No squeal at the end of my cassette, just synth effects and an audience cheer."
From Doug Scoular:
"Just a note that the Orient Cinema, Ayr gig didn't actually happen at that venue. It was changed to Ayr Pavilion after the tickets were printed."
I was there, and still have the ticket with the wrong venue indicated. They were supported by The Wake, by the way."
Decent sound, not great (all known copies seem to stem from a version recoreded and/or played back with Dolby C), with vocals fairly well-defined. At least until shakepiggie's DIME seed showed up, which is likely from the better of the two known recordings.
The opener, Ceremony, has an additional/different improvised lyric.
"Oh why do I play so badly, play in time my sh... can't stand me."
Ultraviolence
BS: "Sorry we're so late but we had a little, eh, Ultraviolence to cope with..."
Chosen__Time_
Somebody calls out "Manchester!" at the start.
We__All___Stand_
Starts with slowly strummed guitars instead of the bass synth. Nice.
A little bit of Sister__Ray_ thrown in between here, maybe while they were waiting for their synths to load up for The__Village_.
Some variations:
'Our love is like the earth, the sun, the beach, and the dirt'
The band soundcheck a bit between songs.
Everything__Gone___Green_ has somewhat different sounding sequencer parts than normal, but other than that New Order proceed to run through their typical set around that time, with Denial, Age__Of___Consent_ and Temptation following.
The end of IALP has filter sweeps.
Tape edit for encore which is Blue__Monday_. Plenty of cries for that.
Don't know who says this, wonder in fact if it's Steve Morris, it does sound a bit like him.
SM: "Thank you very much. All right. See one of you later, y'alright?"
Someone with a Scottish accent reintroduces them.
False start to Blue Monday.
Compere yells out "New Order", as a reintroduction. Fans continue to chant.
PH: "Shh...a moment of silence for the dead we left behind in Glasgow!" [a moment later] And these are the ones that left 'em for fucking dead, right?"
Needless to say, this encore is a shambles, but is very fun listening nonetheless.
Bernard laughs through one of the lyrics, as well as trying to speak his way through the second verse...as well as an ad-lib at the end that sounds like "how does it feel when your butt don't march..." (clarifying what he's singing would be appreciated)
Also a fairly unique sounding bass sequencer riff, as well as lots of sampled "W-R-L"s at the end (Confusion wasn't played that night)
A version of the classic that even Mike Garrity would love.
Here's the setlist.
(+) audience tape has this in full, so does the FM rebroadcast It was subsequently determined by "Johnny James" this was interpolated from a different show.
(*) not part of FM broadcast...appears on a audience recording that is inserted in the FM copy I have.
53 minutes
note: FM radio broadcast; does anyone know which radio station broadcast
this concert, or the broadcast date? Does an audience recording source exist?
Was anything else performed???
I have this on tape...the gig date had been listed as 18 APR 83, though some sources list the date as 24 APR 83, which seems to be the consensus these dates, and better fits with the other Irish dates at around that time.
Johnathan Scott adds:
From: "Jonathan Scott"
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Rosehill Hotel gig
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 10:22:03.0998 (UTC)
FILETIME=[87B49FE0:01C1733F]
The Rosehill "This is my Ceremony guitar" Hotel gig was broadcast on Radio One here in the UK by (I think) Richard Skinner and at the time, was one of the best New Order live shows available. Radio One were very lucky to get the band in such a good mood. Considering the bands history, I was surprised at the time that the BBC would risk the cost of a mobile unit on a potential waste of time like New Order! Just imagine if they had recorded the Edinburgh Playhouse gig...wow...
Anyone who has NOT heard this show should make a real effort to as it is (IMHO lol!) fantastic.
Jonathan, Glasgow.
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:17:24
From: "John Saunders" 'Dave Mings'
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: RE: (Fac33) Rosehill Hotel gig
Radio one broadcast this twice. I'm sure one of the times was a joint John Peel / David Jensen show. My copy has the boom of the news jingle cutting in during Blue Monday, I don't know if that was the first or second broadcast.
Parts of this gig, including 'that' version of Ceremony is available on Audiogalaxy.
Regards,
John
Snotters says:
"...that BONG 19 seconds into Blue Monday is on all the versions I've heard - including the Radio London FM broadcast I have and the Radio 1 medium wave broadcast in 83."
Making it likely this is present on the medium the BBC use for playback...
Transcription
I could be wrong about my copy being an audience recording...the stereo seperation is amazingly good and the sound very well defined, especially the drumming.
We__All___Stand_
A fairly delicious version of this tune.
Leave__Me___Alone_
A bit of buzzing at the very start. There's a volume drop about 2:50 in, the rest of the recording stays at the lowered level. I wonder if this is a problem with my copy or with the master? (audience tape, not FM)
Denial
(at the end)
BS: "Thanks very much. Very kind of you."
NO immediately get into The Village. Opening riff is a bit off...
Odd couplet spotting:
"Our love is like the earth, the sun, the trees, and the afterbirth"...
and...
"From the heaven to the city
My heart will be with me
And when it finally stops
The synthesizer will be in tune"
BS: "Thanks very much. Did I say how grateful we are? If you want to hear Temptation, we'll play it for you."
What was cut from the BBC broadcast but has been restored in the video included with the PC&L boxset is the following.
BS: "So we do care about our audiences....especially girls with big tits."
PH: "Sexist humor."
Temptation
Weird intro bass riff...sounds like a pooch being strangled...really!
BS: "Oh, thanks very much. See, basically, we're very misunderstood. We love people, really."
PC&L boxset video adds:
BS: "Especially Irish people. In fact, this is my favorite town in Ireland...oh, thanks very much, it's nice of you..."
And then Hooky pulls out a piece of paper...
PH: "Now I've been told here on this little piece of paper...who's Matthew Carney?"
Matthew Carney, calling out from the audience: "I am, I am"....
PH: "Ah, you're a cunt."
PH: "Matthew Carney, there's a telephone call for you at reception. You've missed out on a bottle of wine, but never mind."
Confusion
Barney tests out the bass (assuming this is their usual live arrangement while Hooky makes a comment)
PH: "This is our nightly request box, so keep shouting!"
This song was supposedly not complete in the FM broadcast, but it appears to be complete here. Update: Confusion is complete in the latest BBC rebroadcast.
In_A__Lonely___Place_
Seems the tempo is faster here than I've ever heard them play this song. It's almost catchy. That's because it's playing too fast!
This song was left out of the FM broadcast. In fact, it's not from this gig at all, according to "Johnny James", but was taken from a different recording, and indeed does not appear on the video included on the PC&L boxset.
The band then play Age__Of___Consent_. With a guitar break suspiciously like Sister Ray. The FM version has this crossfaded from the end of Confusion.
Blue__Monday_
Side two of my tape opens with the ending bass riffs of Age Of Consent, and somebody repeatingly calling out for Ceremony. But the Order first play Blue Monday, the 1983 Top Of The Pops edit version(!)
There's a flub in the lyrics where Barney and Hooky are singing different things. Also the way Sumner pronounces "go down to the beeeassh" is pretty funny. And of course, the BBC1 "bong" jingle mentioned earlier at 0:19 in.
Everythings__Gone___Green_
Brief break in soundboard source used on PC&L boxset DVD at start.
BS: "Do you really want us to play Everything's Gone Green? Alright, we'll play it!"
There's a skip a little before a minute in...right when somebody says "hey" so it might have been in the source rather than just a skip in my copy.
On the PC&L boxset video, Bernard says "bye everyone", confirming that the band would indeed come back out for an encore.
Audio cuts out so very hard to make out here.
BS: "We've never...this sone...before....it's very nice..."
BS: "Actually, we did an encore last night.
Ceremony
BS: "This is my, uh, Ceremony guitar. I only ever play Ceremony with this. 1959 Les Paul, but it just suits Ceremony, you know what it's like, don't you?" Bernard plays a bit of the lead riff before the band kick in with a wonderful version of this.
Brian Clough, posting on the WIM forum, states:
"He was talking shite at Kilkenny, he's never had a 1959 Les Paul !! The guitar he was referring to at that gig was his 1961 ES335, which as you will all know was a completely different shape and type to a 1959 Les Paul ! The only connection was that both were made by Gibson."
He sings of avenues paved with gold...
Skip at 3:07 on my copy of this, probably on the source of the particular FM recording I have.
Bernard says "thank you very much...thanks very much" during the "Forever...letting me know lines".
And then...we have the following gem...
BS: "Thank you. Thanks very much. So pleased to see you all here. I'm so pleased you like Ceremony. [Bernard raises voice] I'm so pleased you like Temptation. (Hooky shouts affermation) I'm so pleased you like Blue Monday. (Hooky: "Yeah!") Straight from Top Of The Pops, we have New Order! On my left, I have Peter Hook. On my right, I have Gillian Gilbert. Behind me, I have Ian Curtis."
Hooky says something hard to make out, something about people.
They conclude.
BS: "Thank you...that really is the end. Bye, everyone!"
Some people say they were really happy, but I think they're actually just practicing their own inimitable form of satire for the benefit of the broadcast.
Craig Wood writes:
"I was front circle, first row. I got comped in that night, they'd sold out of actual tickets and I had a letter from Barry Hime (major ticket seller- he founded the Piccadilly Box Office ticket agency) to the promoter. It did get me in, though.
My friend Kim (who lived in Hanley) suggested we head straight upstairs, better view, no 'football hooligan' fans getting in the way, and I could record and take pictures uninterrupted. Ever thoughtful, our Kim. The security at Hanley was always a bit over-zealous, I had to be careful again later that year when I recorded EC on the Punch The Clock tour after the Hacienda show got pulled...
I remember that this was the show where Barney kept taking off layers of clothing. He must have been wearing about five shirts or jumpers or coats.... eventually he got down to his Bundeswehr (sp?) vest - which became a must-have fashion accessory soon after. Even I had one... bought it in Oasis in Manchester, 3 pounds for a copy, 4 for an original. I took the original. I wonder what happened to it..."
Source kindly provided by MM.
Your__Silent___Face_
A bit of instability in the tape source at the start, but clears up within thirty seconds.
Someone calls out for 'Confusion'
Ceremony
PH: "This one's for all you rocking horses in the audience."
Ultraviolence
PH: "Music being the food of love, play on."
Someone calls out "Rob", and mutters something inaudible from here.
Procession follows.
We__All___Stand_ is next.
Slight cut between this and ICB.
586 follows.
PA hum and feedback.
Hooky says something again, like "turn off..."
At about 2:30 the sound goes all pear shaped, as a security person spots the recorder and bellows "That is not allowed!". At this point the first source ends and the second source (which I'd guess is the usual one) begins.
Blue__Monday_
Bit of a keyboard solo at the 1:30 mark.
In_A__Lonely___Place_ finishes up the set.
A very interesting piece with the persenter asking first Steve and then Barney about the various sounds their keyboards make. You can hear pieces of "Confusion". Steve makes a joke about somebody being shrunk down to fit into the drum synth. Barney's crossing his arm and giggling at everything.
After which, the Order perform Blue__Monday_. Hooky has his trademark leather jacket. You also get a closeup of Steve inserting floppies in the Emulator.
Obtained on CD from GaoBest.
NOOL has a review done by 'nwMarco', here: http://www.neworderonline.com/Live/Concert.aspx?ConcertID=226
This mentions that 'Almost Anyone' (which were a couple of friends of his) opened for them. A recording of that does exist.
Taped by RH, who made digital copies, one of which ended up in GaoBest's clutches. To quote:
"...who used D5. He sold parts of his collection in the early '90s then made copies from his master tapes to CDR for one of my contacts..."
Gig SQ is as-usual excellent, as these are first-gen or close to it. Soundcheck SQ is maybe 2nd generation, hard to tell as recording volume was low, an interesting listen.
Ultraviolence
Bass-synth intro with some scratchy/jangly guitar.
BS: "Thank you very much. This one's for eh, [a name, surname sounds like 'Bock and Markie']...before they get here."
Some guitars, one-second-in false bass start, and then Dreams Never End commences.
The intro for the next song sounds like an interesting cross between Everything's Gone Green and Temptation, but only because it turns out some stuff got triggered in error. False start.
BS: "We all make mistakes...[you know?]..."
Then New Order start over with a nice rendition of Temptation.
Procession
Barney strains his vocal range for "the life keeps getting stranger every day part".
Leave__Me___Alone_
BS: "Gary, Gary, could you [turn up(?)] my vocals a bit clearer on stage, please. A bit more, eh, 8k, no, 1k."
Lots of cheers and whistles after this one.
Truth
This version sounds massive.
586
End is nice echo-effects. The group exhibits getting creative with their instrumentation here.
Denial follows.
Age__Of___Consent_
BS: "Cassette deck...this next song..."
Some instrumental noodling before Confusion, which features more sampled vocals being manipulated.
Hook Line:
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/HookLine/830619_01-AnyRequests.mp3
PH: "Any requests?"
Folk cry out, of course.
PH: "We don't do requests, so fuck..."
Yet the punters are still calling out, you can hear a girl cry out for "Mony Mony", and of course, the omnipresent "Transmission".
Blue__Monday_
People clap to the intro.
Barney Says:
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/BarneySays/830619_01-GrowsStiff.mp3
"How does it feel when your cock grows stiff"
Lots of other synth effects in this one.
Rough description of the proceedings. Taper and some buddies provide some running commentary. They sound all like Americans, with one sounding like he's from the area the gig was played.
Here are the bits and pieces I've been able to pick up.
Denial (drums)
Age Of Consent (bass)
Blue Monday (synths)
In A Lonely Place (synths)
Thieves Like Us (synths)
Tapers talk about New Order's tour iternary. "They toured in
Greece with the Fall and the Birthday Party" (presumably in 1982).
(edit)
bass noodling that is commented on sounding like "Wilderness",
and some other stuff.
More Thieves Like Us (synths)
More Blue Monday (drums/synths)
Sister Ray (guitar+bass/drums for a few seconds)
Ceremony (guitar)
(edit)
Temptation
(edit)
video game noises and scattered discussion..."it's about 7:20"...
Bernard does 1-2's...speeding ticket (68mph)...trying to buy
beer and needing IDs...
Age__Of___Consent_ (false start) comment: "New Order on 45, let's
play 10 songs in 30 minutes!"
Procession (synth bit) / Confusion (sequencer bit)
Age__Of___Consent_ (they pause for a bit and then restart, so it's
run through twice)
Hooky says something about the vocals out the side...have magically
reappeared, and then Bernard mentions 'Cries and Whispers'....
Some vocal mic checks by Bernard and Hooky.
Cries__And___Whispers_
Bit of 'Maniac' by Hall and Oates over the PA
Confusion (drums)
First-gen tape copy.
Your__Silent___Face_
The very start is missing.
Levels start high and drop after a couple of seconds.
Sounds like tape speed issues, as it runs a semitone fast up until the 1:16 point. Likely the tape speed slider on the recording device got bumped by mistake, and was only noticed after a minute or so. Levels drop at 1:22, and go back up at 1:43.
Chosen__Time_ follows.
Age__Of___Consent_
Folks start screaming when Bernard sings "I've lost you".
BS: "Can we have for... acoustic snare drum playing through the foldback just a bit?"
Punter yells, "Can you hear that?"
Temptation
BS: "A bit of electronic snare drum as well."
A Fan cries a few times between 1:45 - 2:30, sounds like they're saying "eat shit".
BS: "Thanks very much. [can't make out first part of this] ...half the shit on my mic."
We__All___Stand_
Internal cut at about 2:00.
Senses
Includes extra verse common to the 1983 renditions of this song.
Hurt
Melodica melody is a bit different than usual.
punter: "Hey idiot, turn up the vocals!"
Oh my God, actual valley girls.
Everythings__Gone___Green_
Lots of chattering going on during the middle of this.
Edit between EGG and Ceremony , which is missing the first few seconds.
Confusion.
More valley girl chatter at start.
John Darnielle sent the following in reminiscing about this show, which I am thankful to be able to share with you:
"Hi there! I was just thinking about a gig I attended a million years ago, and I found myself at your site. It was the 23/6/83 gig at Billy Barty's Roller Fantasy in Fullerton. (The promoter, Goldenvoice, was trying to get people to call it "The Fantasy" but nobody was buying it...roller disco had been a big deal in southern California a few years before.)
A few things I remember:
Despite all that I loved the show - the adversarial feel was somehow appropriate for the time, or for my age. I was sixteen.
That's all I've got, and it isn't much, but I thought you might find it interesting."
Regarding the recording:
Have a 3rd/4th gen-sounding copy of this performance, since upgraded to first-generation.
Blue__Monday_
Sound levels for the first minute fluctuate, quiet for the first 20 seconds, and then get louder for 10 seconds, and go back down. Again, this doesn't seem to be present on the first-gen, which may be a different recording.
Cheering at 1:34.
Leave__Me___Alone_ follows.
Sounds like a rough edit into The__Village_. The first gen doesn't have this edit.
And right at the start, it sounds like Hooky is saying, "Oh baby" or something similar, not very loudly.
The sequencer pattern sounds slightly different than wont.
The first-gen does sound like there's an edit between The Village and Cries__And___Whispers_, which is quite an excellent rendition.
lyric: "Someday, we'll find / That truth is not to find..."
Brief edit on first-gen.
ICB
BS: "Listen, if you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan. If you like this, you like fucking anything."
After "taken from a killing ground, an all-providing hand..." is sung, Bernard yells, "More vocals." The 3rd/4th gen version distorts briefly for a couple of seconds shortly thereafter, this isn't present on the first-gen copy.
Another tape edit into In_A__Lonely___Place_. (higher-gen version). No edit on M/1.
Then Ultraviolence, which ends in a neat synth effect.
Procession follows.
Cut in tape between Procession and Denial (M/1 version).
The last song is Ceremony. As John notes above, at about the three minute point Hooky stops playing, as there's no bass during the final portion of the sound.
The tape ends abruptly afterwards.
Source : Aud (unknown) - tracks 1-3; Aud (M2) - tracks 4-12 > WAV > FLAC
Snotters, who seeded this on EZT, says:
"This tape's always been a bit strange, in that I think it comes from 2 different sources. Tracks 1 - 3 are pretty average, quality-wise (the sound is very poor at the start of Ceremony and gradually gets better). Tracks 4 through to the end are exceptionally good for an audience recording. Rather than split the gig up I thought I'd seed it all - just be warned (and preferrably skip to Thieves Like Us when you listen to it!)."
As with all US 83 Tour gigs this one's a corker.
"Sharksfan2000" attended this show, he doesn't remember much but there were at least two long breaks (the other 5-10 minutes, the other 15 minutes) because of, surprise surprise, sequencer trouble. According to his initial recollection, about 200 people were in attendance, but on second thoughts, it appear to have been more. He comments:
"I remember that the club was quite crowded. Looking at an old <a href="http://www.new-order.net/no/pix/articles/new_order_article_7-1-83_a.jpg.html"> article</a> about the I-Beam its capacity was noted as 600 - I find that number hard to believe, but now I think I originally underestimated the crowd there, and it may have been 300-400 total. I'd forgotten that the I-Beam (which closed many years ago) was divided into a number of interconnected spaces, and from where I wasstanding I'm sure I could only see a portion of the crowd there. I was standing in the main room, probably 30-40 feet from the stage. It was at that show that I first saw someone wearing a Joy Division "Unknown Pleasures" t-shirt - of > course I had to go buy one right away after that!
The band had some problems with their sequencers during the set, which caused a couple of lengthy delays - I recall one of them being around 15 minutes, and the other one being 5-10 minutes.
Hooky had his hair tied back into a short ponytail, and spent most of the show with his back to the audience. Not much interaction between the band and the I-Beam crowed.
I remember "Leave Me Alone" being a highlight for me - especially the last portion when Barney and Gillian trade off guitar leads. "Your Silent Face" was also great, and the first time I realized that Barney was playing a melodica on that song. Listening to the recording of the show made me remember that I was worried that they weren't going to play "Temptation" after they played "Blue Monday" (thought they might finish with that one). I believe "Temptation" was an encore."
Transcription
Ceremony
Edit at about 3:05. I think this is where the second source (with louder drums) is joined in.
Fans woo, and somebody can be heard saying "yeah, going up!".
An edit.
Confusion
Band plugs in and starts playing, WRL sample. Cut in the tape at 0:18.
The__Him_
Sound isn't completely terrible, though there's a couple of dropouts in this track. Some undecipherable audience chatter at about 0:15. Audience members woo afterwards. There's an edit after the song.
Thieves__Like___Us_
The debut for this song!
BS: "...hear this before."
A female fan starts chattering at 1:25 or so...all I can make out is "I hate"...somebody then yells out, "Bitch".
Quite unique guitar parts...too bad it's quite hard in places to make out
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs83.html#NO-830625.tlu
After they finish, a heckler shouts out something like:
"Hey, you take the...pigfuckers. You guys are the saints, get the sound together. Last year, the same thing, oh! The same thing, gentlemen. Great records, the whole bit, [someting] suck!"
Someone yells out "Wanker!"
BS: "There's a lot of people in this room...."
A bit of tuning before We__All___Stand_.
Leave__Me___Alone_ follows. A good rendition of this classic. Somebody calls out for songs, and while the band waits for the sequencers to load, Stephen bangs on the cymbals, and Bernard mumbles something about the reason for the delay.
After The__Village_ there's yet another tape edit, followed by the start of Denial, that has a very slow drum buildup, which suddenly speeds up, and end up being a great version.
Your__Silent___Face_
Vocals start out quiet in the mix.
Quite a long version, clocking at nearly eight minutes. A fairly long pause (forty five seconds) between tracks.
BS: "All right, what do you want us to play next? We probably won't play it."
Blue__Monday_
The opening bars hammer out.
BS: (in the most blase voice imaginable) "Oh, what a surprise."
Temptation ends the set.
I'll gave you a thousand reasons
Why I'm your girl
I've heard you're a hundred assholes
Now with this song
It's called love...we masturbate
It's called love...we masturbate
It's called love and we masturbate
It's called love...love love, love love love
I saw a thousand tree trunks
In the boiling sun
I heard a hundred voices
In the heat every night
It's called love...it melts away
It's called love and it has it's way
It's called love [woo!] love love love
It's called love [woo!] love love love
[reverb on vocals makes it difficult to make out the following verse]
...a thousand...
I see you...a hundred...
Love is at home...
It's called love [x4]
...on the street.
...it comes to you...
Someday we're going to treat you out.
...other people of ours
It's called love [x2]
...becomes soulful...moves so fast
My eyes are plastic...
It's called love [x3]
It comes to us
It's called love and it comes to us [x3] It's called love [x3]
The known recording isn't a very clear one, to me it sounds like it was recorded from inside a bag or jacket pocket.
Somebody says "Oh, great" (sarcastically) at the start.
Age__Of___Consent_ opens the proceedings, followed by Dreams__Never___End_.
Cries__and Whispers_
BS: "Turn up the vocals, Ed, please."
Followed right on its heels by Senses
Lonesome__Tonight_ has somewhat different lyrics. More accurately the live version played here has the same phrases as http://www.worldinmotion.net/neworder/lyrics/substance/lonesometonight.htm but in different sequence. This is about the third time NO has played this song live.
New Order take a few seconds to tune their gear before rendering Confusion.
During the song, mid-verse, Bernard askes the soundcrew to "turn the fucking vocals up". One of the choruses is Bernard singing "Confusion, confusion, confusion, confuu-uushu-uun".
ICB has a somewhat different bassline than the recorded version, at least in the beginning. My version has a cut about a second into the song. Since this is about 30 minutes in, that suggests a c60 in the upsteam lineage chain.
This is followed by Denial.
Weird how New Order plays more songs from Movement (4) here than from PCL (2)...especially since PCL had been released the month before. There's another edit between Denial and BM.
Blue__Monday_
Guy near the taper can be heard saying, "Ah, you probably like that better".
Blue Monday breaks down right when BS starts to sing "How does it...". Sumner then comments about a piece of gear breaking that I can't quite make out. The song restarts, and finishes up with the same outro used on the TOTP version.
After the song Bernard comments:
(mark this for Barney Says)
BS: "So you only get [robbed...]?...we don't normally play that version, that's the special Canadian version, short because you all are fucking dicks tonight."
Hooky says something about instruments which I can't quote make out.
Brief (under 30 second) interlude of improvised stuff, then 586, which has a different ending than I usually heard.
Ceremony
Some strange audience banter.
Woman: For me. [referring to the clapping]
Guy: ah?
Woman: It's for me.
Guy: That's what I tried to tell you, you think everything is related
directly to you.
Then Bernard cuts in dedicating Ceremony to the road and stage crew, in his own inimitable manner.
(mark this for Barney says)
BS: "[...a lot of...] This is a very old song, it's called, erm, 'The Day The Road Crew Got A Jump'. Just about ..."
PH: "Dedicated to that guy over there, in the grey t-shirt...his name's Arthur..he's very lonely...starving...[2 words can't make out]
BS: "I like that guy over there, he's one bloke who needs a jump!"
PH: (at the same time as Barney) "Take a bow, take a bow, Jim."
This is the legendary gig that as far as we know, no tape exists.
UPDATE - A recording has surfaced and was shared on 2017-08-05.
There are quite a few observations regarding what went on that night, only some of them bear any resemblance to reality. This will eventually be rewritten to account for the actual performance.
The following quote is from:
(http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-metro18.html)
New Order, 1983: "That was an incredible experience. Joy Division never made it to America because [vocalist] Ian Curtis killed himself on the eve of the tour. When New Order came, it was one of the hottest days in the city of Chicago's history. 'Blue Monday' had been a huge club hit-- it was like the change of music going from guitar-based punk to synthesizer-based New Wave or post-punk--but at that show, the power went down onstage because it was so hot in the club. Before it came back on they did a sort of 'New Order unplugged,' and it was the closest thing to Joy Division playing 'Blue Monday,' because they had to play it with just guitar and drums and none of the electronic gear."
TJ adds:
"Sorry, missed ICB out from the middle of that rumoured set.
Ceremony/Age of Consent/Dreams Never End/Cries and Whispers/Lonesome Tonight/Your Silent Face (where it all went wrong)/ICB/Sister Ray/a jam of sorts/She's Lost Control instrumental/Transmission instrumental.
Again, absolutely no idea of how accurate this is, this was included in a letter to me by a trader many years ago, he said he hadn't got a tape of the show but had attended it, and that is what they'd played. I discounted it as BS immediately, and hadn't thought of it again until it was mentioned below that other people had said they'd done some JD at this gig. Pretty spectacular if it's true - but no recording has ever been seen as far as I know."
TMK replies:
"Thanks much for the rumoured setlist. Very interesting, indeed. This is the first time to see such a setlist for this gig. I first heard this rumour about JD songs at this gig in 1984. The thing is - when my two friends reported that NO had played a number of JD songs, they sounded disappointed about it (what was wrong with them?? :>) However, if others have also heard similar rumours from people who attended the 1983 Chicago gig, it is entirely possible that rare JD material was performed. I looked for a recording of this gig for several years in Chicago, to no avail. There was never even the slightest rumour that one existed. So, the big question is where is the elusive 1983 Chicago recording - does one even exist?!"
Another note from TJ:
"All I know about it is that the sequencers failed halfway through the set, and unfortunately they'd played most of the guitar tracks in the early part of the set! What followed was a bit of improvisation. I had heard that they did a couple of JD instrumental versions as the last two songs(SLC/Transmission), but have not heard any proof of this. I did see a setlist posted somewhere once that included these, from somebody from Chicago. No guarantee of course that it is accurate or even bona-fide. From memory, it was Ceremony/Age of Consent/Dreams Never End/Cries and Whispers/Lonesome Tonight/Your Silent Face (where it all went wrong)/Sister Ray/a jam of sorts/She's Lost Control instrumental/Transmission instrumental. No idea if this is true.
Maybe the MB archives will tell all!"
RM's rspns: "I talked to Mark Buckwalter this morning...(re: picking up the 81 shows with Doubts Even Here played to master them to CD from his best tapes...)--he said NOPE. It's a rumor...the show was never taped. He and his closest sources were snapping up the US tapes immediately after they became listed by anyone, and from tapers, and friends of tapers--they all said no tape exists to our knowledge. sorry."
More interesting speculation from TJ:
"I think that if this set is genuine, we can make a few assumptions and a likely scenario - the sequencers and synths failed during Your Silent Face, and as they'd already played all the guitar-based songs they had intended to (and were only 20/23 mins into the set), they had to make a quick change, hence ICB (which was well-rehearsed), followed by a Sister Ray jam while the techs tried to fix the sequencers. As this failed, they were a bit stuck, so threw in a couple of crowd-pleasers. We'll never know unless we can either get a first-hand account or something from the band themselves."
and
"Makes you wonder what had happened to Leave Me Alone and The Him though, both of which had been played on that tour and not in the previous two dates - you'd have thought they would be more likely candidates than a couple of JD instrumentals (unless they were feeling guilty!)."
Sourced from a tape with cassette label indicating it was made in W. Germany, Collectors Cass 1049. Tape is a chrome Maxell UDS-II. Sound quality is okay, but isn't as sharp as one would hope, and is somewhat hissy.
This is the sequence on my tape, and probably differs from what was actually performed. I suspect this tape leaves out the first song (EGG), as well as the first encore tracks (Lonesome Tonight and 586).
There'a another version of this, of course, that is complete. The "Collectors Cass 1049" version actually sounds superior to the full copy, at least the one I have, which has been heavily NR'ed and may be MP3-sourced. And a third, bettering the first two, featuring the final three tracks...these have long been misidentified as being from Trenton, NJ.
Everythings___Gone____Green_ is the first track of the set. Not pressent on CC1049.
PH responds to somebody by saying, "Time for you to breathe...".
Blue__Monday_ (TOTP edit)
During first drum break, a male voice comments "it's fucking great". (CC1049 version)
Somebody cries for "Age Of Consent" a few times. (CC1049 version)
Ultraviolence
Booming double kick drum fills until the intro sequencer pattern starts up.
The__Him_
Song ends at the point where New Order would stop and restart. Don't know if this is something they started doing during their '83 gigs or if it is a one-off.
Odd because the non-CC1049 version does resume.
We__All___Stand_ follows.
Some chatter during the intro, with somebody saying, "You can't stand up here, you're in everybody's way, you can't stand up here". (CC1049 version)
Dreams__Never___End_
After the song finishes. Bernard addresses the audience.
BS: "This has got to be 40..."
Hurt
BS: "Hello, it's the first time we've played ... good on this tour, been on this tour." [not 100% sure on wording]
On the non-CC1049 version somebody calls for Transmission.
The CC1049 version has this track last.
And then Lonesome__Tonight_, with a fairly languid intro and with Barney singing this completely out of tune and him cooing right before the synths kick in. Female voice can be heard at 4:45 saying something (can't make it out)
Missing (criminally) from CC1049 version.
586
PH: "That ...sequencer... there, drop it 5."
Interesting statacco effect with the guitar.
Quite a distinctive ending. There's is quite a long pause between tracks, it sounds like New Order is trying to play Procession but never get it off the ground, as we just here the synth drone and nothing more.
You can also hear punters yelling out for old JD standbys like "Transmssion", "Ceremony", and "Incubation"(!) and another person advising the group to "get a bigger hammer" to fix the synths.
Bernard than says, "Thank you, [something], sorry."
BS: (in a weird nasally voice, attempting to imitate the Jersey accent) "Okay, suckers."
Blue__Monday_
After "when your heart grows cold", Bernard says something (to the sound guy, presumably).
Bernard utters something that sounds like "Wait 'em" at 3:43.
PH: (probably sarcastially) "C'mon you guys, a bit shy."
Confusion
Best version of this ever.
PH: "Thought that was a banana, Stu(?)."
"Con-fucking-fusion", to quote Mr. Sumner.
Great interplay of guitar here.
Last lyric: "Everything goes on..."
Ends with a Hooky bass vamp.
Squeal tape edit.
On the non-CC1049 version, there's about three minutes of chanting and at least two edits (one cut, one squeal) while the audience cries out for the group to come back out.
PH: "Might...[something] the bit...cha..."
Lots of chanting and clapping.
BS: "Fucking confusion!" (at a few points)
Jan Bollansee's description of the recording:
"Kindly provided by TJ, this recording catches the band in high spirits as they play to an appreciative Canadian crowd. The gig falls in two parts. The first, proper set features six songs, climaxing with a truncated Blue Monday. Then, by way of a very long encore, the band perform another seven tracks, starting this time with a full Blue Monday (since the taper's friend can be heard asking, "didn't they already play this one?", it's definitely the start of the encore, and not of a separate second set). Cries & Whispers features one of Hooky's brothers on vocals (because it was his birthday) and Thieves Like Us is another early, and very long, rendition.
This recording is not without flaws. It's fairly hissy in some parts, and very hissy in other ones (lineage unknown). There are also cuts before and after the second version of Blue Monday, and the ending of Everything's Gone Green is cut. Finally, the two cassette sides played at different volumes and speeds. I raised Side 1 by 1.5 dB and slowed it down by 8.705 %; Side 2 was raised by 3 dB and slowed down by 4.93 %. However, don't let all this deter you: it's a very enjoyable recording of a great gig!"
In_A__Lonely___Place_
First few seconds has tape wear, there's unintelligible audience chatter, but lots of cheering.
Chosen__Time_ follows.
Tiny bit of tuning, followed by Your__Silent___Face_.
Temptation is next.
Dreams__Never___End_
BS: (like he's soundchecking) "two" [then mutters a few words]
person: "someone(?) ...pretty bad on that side."
Blue__Monday_
The TOTP edit version.
BS: "I'm gonna(?)...[can't make out rest of phrase]...will you decide what you...[sounds like "wedgie wedgie"
Another punter calls for Ceremony.
punter #1: "The favorite."
punter #2: "What?"
punter #1: "The favorite."
End of the first part of the gig, edit at this point.
PA music at this point, and then another edit, followed by the full version of Blue__Monday_.
punter: "Didn't they already play this?"
This person (possibly the taper) mutters something else about 1:08 or so in, "His [sounds like: chin-air] broke."
Tape edit at this point.
Cries__And___Whispers_
BS: "[word] Eddie... I'd like to introduce Peter's brother, he's called Andrew...he's gonna [do]? the next song."
This isn't Hooky's brother but really just a roadie, according to James Nice's Shadowplayers, it was Andrew Liddle, who later handled their lighting rig.
His vocals aren't exactly the stuff of legends, but they're servicible. Hooky's bass sounds like it's playing in the wrong key, unlikely this was the case to to adjust for Andrew's vocal range.
Andrew: "Thank you, I'd just like to say that I did it for the money."
PH: "His solo record will be going out on Factory next week."
The__Village_ follows.
BS: "Thanks very much, that's the thousand-line version you're gonna get... it's all downhill from now on."
PH: "...ask if you can get good help anymore."
Thieves__Like___Us_
Another nearly-eleven long minute epic, with a very unusual synth-wash intro.
The verses are completely improvised, with the lyrics about the aformentioned Andrew, though the chorus is somewhat similar to the standard version.
Bernard sings "My name is Andrew"...etc.
586
Synth sounds at the beginning are pretty atypical, and interesting to listen to.
BS: "Thanks very much."
Age__Of___Consent_
Hooky starts his intro over.
Everythings__Gone___Green_
More cries for "Ceremony", which is about the only one that doesn't get played tonight.
The ending is cut, I presume the tape runs out.
"Paradise Garage. Simply a huge garage, sagging under the weight of masses of disco lights. Decorated in black and grey corrugated metal, like a huge Hacienda minus any sense of style, and plus the best PA system in the world."
(Mick Middles, Sounds 23 July 83)
Interview in Sounds 23 July 83 which talks about Paradise Garage gig at http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds7-83.htm
From alt.music.new-order:
> Richard David Behrens <behrens@pipeline.com>
> Does anyone know where I can get a copy (MP3, cassette, CD?) of the > 1983 Paradise Garage NYC gig? I was right there in the front row on a > first date with the girl I stayed with for a decade. She got mad that > they left the stage after fifty minutes and leaned over and knocked > over Bernard's monitor. I remember a dance band with Simon Topping > from ACR playing congas opened for them. Does anyone remember the > name of this band? Quando Quango? I must be getting old.
> Edward
> I just dug out a November '83 copy of Trouser Press which has a NO > interview and review of that show. It confirms Quando Quango's set > preceded NO. I can't help you out with any boots, but I can send you a > photocopy of the article if you're looking for a trip down memory lane. > An excerpt:
> "[The Paradise crowd] isn't sure hot to take a remark like Hook's > introduction to 'Confusion': 'We want you all singing along on this, you > funhouse bastards.' ... A few tunes later Hook tries one last pep talk: > 'Seldom have I ever met an audience as lethargic as we are." 'Probably > all Joy Division fans, Dicken mutters. 'You get what you deserve!' some > yells out."
> Richard David Behrens <behrens@pipeline.com>
> Thanks for the info. I do remember the "funhouse bastards" comment
> and that is one of the reasons why my girlfriend attacked their
> monitors. They looked so grim on stage, staring at the audience with
> lowered eyes like we were beneath contempt. Someone who knew them at
> the time commented, "They're like that! Off stage they can be real
> funny and charming but when they get up on stage, POW! it's like the
> drugs kicked in or something and they get real paranoid and
> aggressive." I'm paraphrasing that.
>
> Thanks for the offer. I know someone who has a big collection of TP
> and I can ask him if he has Nov. 83.
Recording about 3rd generation, probably taken from the "Ceremony" bootleg. Otherwise, a clear recording, minus the tape hiss. It seems that the bootleg transposed DNE and Temptation from ninth and tenth (at the end) to fourth and fifth.
Setlist in nogig confirmed, except my copy leaves out the last track, Temptation. I've since obtained a complete cassette copy.
YourSilent__Face_ and Hurt lead off the set.
During the intro of the later, somebody close to the taper says they can't figure out if they're using tape or not, the person next to him replies, "It doesn't matter".
BS: "Thank you very much, punters."
Then followed by a very curious "Ribit", mimicking the sound a frog makes.
Confusion
PH: "Why you all singing along for this one, all you Funhouse bastards?"
Somebody cries, "We love you, anyway."
(background, one of the roadies..."Ready?"...another roadie..."No")
BS: "Sorry to keep you waiting, we're just waiting for the sequencer to load up. We're not sorry really, I don't give a shit really. I don't, anyway."
(after it finishes)
BS: "Thanks very much, punters." Then he says "ribbit", like a frog!
Leave__Me___Alone_ has fairly unsteady guitars but is just lovely anyway.
Bernard mutters something and then you can hear a guitar lead get unplugged.
Thieves__Like___Us_ has 'scratch' lyrics, some of which are unintellegable.
The following represents all that I could make out:
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs83.html#NO-830707.tlu
This is followed by Everythings__Gone___Green_.
And the following classic, introducing Ceremony, wrongly credited to Hooky in the Sounds article:
BS: "Seldom...seldom have I ever met an audience more lethargic than we are...very quiet here in New York, aye. Aren't we all Joy Division fans? [Steve provides the drum fill for Atrocity Exhibition]
PH: "Sussed you out, eh?"
There's supposed to be an audience member who yells out "Don't forget we're in a disco!!" You can hear this if you listen carefully.
Bernard plays something Velvet Underground-y for a second or two until the band start into Ceremony.
Blue__Monday_ features this lovely couplet:
"How does it it feel, to be treated in front of a cunt like you..." (getting back at some front row heckler, it sounds like)
Or it could have been...
"How, Does it feel, To be - Stuck in front of a bunch of pricks like you?" - Bernard's 1983 autocue work" ('Hannett Of The Apes', NOOL)
"...thought I heard you (falsetto) SPEAK..."
Nice ending. Gets a rousing response. The band don't even stop and with a momentary burst of feedback, burst into Dreams__Never___End_.
Temptation starts with a weird horn-synth intro bit, and rounds out the set. Excellent guitar work on this version.
I've been a thousand people
In the pouring rain
I've had my bible(?)
In the pouring rain
I've felt the coldness
Lovers...In the pouring rain
Oh, it's called love
Oh, it's called love
Oh, it's called love
And it belongs to us
I heard a hundred voices
Beat me to the ground
I heard the ....(?)
Of the New York Sound
Oh, it's called love
And it belongs to us
And it's called love
And it's taken from us
Oh it dies so quickly
It has so soon
My eye is like a bursted moon
My kent(?) falls down to the house so far
I can't burst out from a broken cow
Oh, it's called love
It's caaaaaaled love
It beloooooongs to us...ooh!
Interview in Sounds 23 July 83 which talks about Paradise Garage gig as well as Ontario Theatre gig in D.C., at http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds7-83pt2.htm
Photo accompanying the article looks to have been taken at the Paradise Garage DJ booth. Same outfits as in the 'Confusion' video.
Apparently the D.C. gig was very noteworthy in that Rob Gretton actually joined New Order on stage to play syndrums for the set opener In_A__Lonely___Place_, as Hooky had had too much to drink, but casually strolled off after his bit was done.
Hooky comes barreling in...I won't spoil the exchange between him and Barney, it's a classic. It's in the review.
WBL also sent in the following article summary.
New Order
Howard Wuelfing
July 9, 1983; Page C4
Section: Style; Performing Arts
Word Count: 252
There was more than one moment last night in New Order's show at the Ontario Theater when it was none too easy to tell where machinery stopped and musicianship started. Having arisen from the ashes of Joy Division, undoubtedly England's most influential post-punk act, New Order since have forged an uneasy but often exhilarating alliance with technology.At one point most of the band huddled together to one side of the stage while tapes, rhythm machines and synthesizer programs...
Source is a C90 that's being burned to CD. Sound is clear but is a bit dodgy on the high end. Maybe a mic/room acoustics issue. A few tracks are left out of the original WR listing! (586, Age Of Consent[cut], and Confusion)
Some drums (sounds like Everything's Gone Green!) being played before the Order start into In_A__Lonely___Place_. Some shouting out and audience chatter, girl says "Well, well...". Bernard's vocals sort of go weird at the "How I wish you were here with me now" bit. The song got a good amount of applause, nobody noticed Gretton as the new syn-drummer.
Ultraviolence
Also starts out with no bass. Hooky comes on after the three and a half minute mark and starts playing.
The taper or somebody close to him says "Hello, Hooky."
PH: "Good evening, [can't make out]"
BS: "The black sheep turns up..."
PH: "All right, shitheads. ...Nearly got away with it...nearly too...to walk...
[can't make out phrase properly, as Hooky is speaking off-mic.]
Punter comments that "they need to get their act together up there". Other people yell, "Fuck you", and "He's on tape!".
BS: "God, guess who we're waiting for now?"
Somebody yells out, "Ian lives!"
Girl yells out "Fucking CRAP!" as they continue to soundcheck. Soon enough, they play The__Village_. Another one that features the lyric, "the sun, the trees, and the afterbirth".
Some talking during the long gap between songs, girl saying "I know", and guy saying something I couldn't be bothered to try to make out.
Blue__Monday_
Short TOTP version.
Lonesome__Tonight_
Fourth time this is performed.
Some variations in lyrics, naturally. Will document them at some point. Followed by We__All___Stand_
Procession
A strange-sounding version, as guitars and vocals come in strangely. Also, the acoustics become muddier than they were before.
586
Hooky screams at the intro.
Age__Of___Consent_
Major internal cut at about the 3:00 mark.
The set ends with a storming version of Confusion. People clap hoping for an encore, but one isn't forthcoming. Somebody comments at the very end, "I knew they wouldn't... I knew they wouldn't!"
Source is cassette from my collection, a non-descript Maxell XLII. This is on the A side. The B side contains the abbreviated (only first seven songs) from the gig in Washington DC the night before. The filler after that is a performance by Minimal Compact in Gothenburg, Sweden 12 DEC 86 ("Take Me Away" and "Nuclear Twist") This is noted to establish that this tape was copied no earlier than late 1986.
Sound is fairly clear and dynamic, some level of hiss, not too bad, though there likely are azimuth alignment issues at the start, but these clear up.
The opening 30 seconds is the tail end of a song (probably not New Order)...just a bit of synth and feedback. There's a break, and then the proper set begins.
Age__Of___Consent_
The opening lines from Bernard are off-key.
Right channel volume cuts out from 1:22 - 1:35...may be a mic issue. At 2:43 some fan calls out for an Eric...there's a bit of chatter throughout this one.
Your__Silent___Face_ and Dreams__Never___End_ follow.
Right afterwards, there is Truth.
Good melodica intro.
Hooky segues into the bassline for Leave__Me___Alone_, which stops and starts.
lyric: "You get these words wrong / I don't give a fuck."
Cries__And___Whispers_ follows. There's not much substance to these notes because the Order are just playing these straight through!
lyric: "The edges froze / they turned to fucking ice"
Bernard appears to be having a bit of trouble with his delivery here...a couple of lines are more spoken than sung.
The volume greatly drops for the intro of the next one, Hurt, but that is more likely a reflection of recording characterisitics within the venue than a tape error.
Fairly energetic version, too.
586
PH: "Add more sequencer through here, drop it five."
Interesting statacco effect with the guitar.
Some keyboards can be heard in between tracks, as well as a punter yelling out, "Get a bigger hammer!"
BS: (in a weird nasally voice, attempting to imitate the Jersey accent) "Okay, suckers."
It has been revealed by 'Mongo Lloyd' that the final tracks after Hurt were 586, Denial, Temptation, an pre-encore break with PiL-type music playing, and the encore of Blue__Monday_. Indeed it turns out the original listing of 586/BM/Confusion here are actually from the Detroit show a week earlier, so the notes have been integrated with that listing, and a writeup of these tracks will shortly be forthcoming.
I've noted that the description from:
http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/neworder/no_disc/notapes.html
refers to the following incident:
Midway throught the second song, Hooky shows. "Ah, the black sheep returns," mutters Bernard, while shooting Hooky a rueful glance. Hookey straps on his bass, looks out into the audience, and apologised: "Hi shitheads!"
This actually happened during the Ontario Theatre gig on Jul 8, 1983, but considering we have to go on a wag writing for a British weekly paper, all bets are off.
Both of these songs are making their debut in England, although oddly enough they were played on the last part of their US tour.
Sources are MP3 from Anthology Part One misc directory (referred to as Anth-MP3), a tape in my archives (refeered to as 'tape') which I suspect was sourced from the video of this performance, another copy from one of the audience masters (XX), and a third M1 from a different master that Snotters posted to Easytree.
Blue__Monday_
Anth-MP3 version starts right when the beats kick in, there's no lead in. The XX version has about 5 seconds of country & western type music, which is said to be "Latin, possibly Merengue", which you can hear more in full on Snotters' version.
Another version has 10 seconds and Hooky "thwacking" his bass.
Dropout between 0:45 and 0:50 on tape version. Volume goes up at 2:45-2:55 and back down at 2:45. Brief cut-out at about 3:00.
What's intriguing is that even in 1983, the vocals stray from the deadpan delivery in the recorded version.
Punter says something about what New Order are going to play, difficult to make out, though. This is at the 1:50 mark.
Age__Of___Consent_
Tape garbles at the 0:20 mark. Like somebody hit record briefly.
Lonesome__Tonight_
Appears on 'Play At Home'. Not surprisingly, the bit where Barney comments about all the cameras
BS: "Uh, can everyone move back a little bit please."
PH: "Take the TV cameras with you, they've got all the fucking room."
BS: "Move back, there's people being knee-capped in the front here." (credit to FHTH, p.136 for the correction)
lyric: "How many times before, did you comb your long black hair?" and "The lies we told our youth/A Hitler of our own, a home I call my own."
New Order play about 10 seconds of Sister__Ray_ before switching gears into Your__Silent___Face_.
Barney hits a bum note during the melodica solo at 5:20 or so.
BS: "Thanks very much."
Somebody cries out for Procession. Somebody else yells "Leave Me Alone". A third person yells "Get a haircut!".
Leave__Me___Alone_
BS: "I've got a message here that I've like to read out, and it's from Carolyn...or Carol, and she says that it's to Steve from Hyde, and she's sorry you couldn't make it to Legends on Saturday, and she says that we wouldn't read that message out for...ads for Carolyn."
Beautiful, given the song in question they're about to play.
586
BS: "Listen, can you move back, as there's not even enough room for me onstage now."
I had 'not everyone can groove with me on stage'...which is kinda a bit silly. Thank to Dave Mings for the correction.
(not heard on XX source, there's an edit point instead)
Ends with Confusion-style guitar noodling.
Denial follows.
Confusion
BS: "Andy, would you tear that cabbage off the back of the stage, please?"
PH: "Pretend you didn't hear that." (responding to a loud hum that sounds like somebody unplugged their instrument)
Random punter can be heard on the Anth MP3 to sardonically reply "Ok".
New Order continue to soundcheck a bit before the next song starts.
Barney picks at the strings on the head end of the guitar upstream of the bridge. Hooky cries, "Ready?", and they're off.
"W...WRL" intro. This is a pretty wild version, apt for the Hac.
There's a blank-space gap of a few seconds between Confusion and the next one, a few seconds of audience noise, and another gap.
Temptation is performed without incident, and appears on 'Play At Home'. Well, not quite without incident. At one point Barney points skyward in a gesture indicating he can't hear himself playing loudly enough..
Thieves__Like___Us_
Appears on the 'Play At Home' video...the video mostly consisting of scenery around the Manchester area.
BS: "Move back a little bit."
This version is about 12:30. Some difference in lyrics, but only one major digression.
Skip at 4:17-4:21, or more properly a brief internal cut, at least on the XX version.
Clapping and cries for "more". Must have taken a while because after a couple of minutes of cries, there's an edit. Eventually, New Order come back and encore with performances of In_A__Lonely___Place_ and Everythings__Gone___Green_.
The 'friend of the band' tape has EGG incomplete, whereas with XX and Snotters' it's complete. Snotters' even includes a bit of the post-gig music as well.
And now the soundcheck...
(times are approximate)
Side__A_
00:00 Synth bleet, and then silence. You can hear the street traffic
throughout.
02:00 Soundchecking mics starts in earnest.
02:20 Some drum checking, some people in the audience mutter as Barney repeats "one-two" more than a few times. This goes on for quite a few minutes. Ends in some crumpling sounds and an edit.
(subtract 9:20 if you have this portion as a separate track)
09:20 Synths for Your__Silent___Face_.
10:10 A quiet passage.
10:40 Bass synth melody of Lonesome__Tonight_ (a part Hooky usually plays with his bass)
11:20 Synth for Confusion, and then more bass synth as above.
13:15 Voice chorus effect for Blue__Monday_.
14:00 Some talking, and ghostly synth for Blue__Monday_.
14:25 First loud motorcycle passes by. You'll hear quite a few of these.
14:40 Continuation of voice chorus.
15:25 More "one two"s as somebody messes with pitch of chorus.
16:00 Crumpling sounds, more traffic sounds.
17:20 Assorted drum soundchecking and random keyboard bursts.
19:40 More quiet audience chatter, drums stop, background traffic again.
21:05 Bass for Decades and Love__Will___Tear___Us___Apart_ and various other snippets.
25:35 Hooky checks his mic.
26:45 Now it's Barney's turn. He counts up to four!
27:10 Our first chance to hear some guitar, fairly intermittently.
29:50 Bass and guitar of Iggy Pop's The__Passenger_(!), well, occasionally.
32:20 Barney makes a comment as various sounds come in and out, including what sounds like a guitar part for Ceremony. Some more noodling.
34:50 bass/drums for Leave__Me__Alone_. Goes on for about 30 seconds, stops, and starts again 40 seconds later. Afterwards, Barney plays his guitar part for about a minute or so.
37:10 guitar/bass/drums for Leave__Me___Alone_.
38:20 More Decades-type bass, etc.
39:10 Silence, just background chatter. Lone synth about a minute later, and some more guitar, bass, and keyboard noodling after that.
42:20 Another take on Leave__Me___Alone_, this time with vocals, which are much louder than the other instruments. End of song is cut off as we've run out of tape by the 46:10 mark.
Side__B_
(this portion was recorded at lower volume and has poorer acoustics than the first side)
00:00 We're greeted with loud crumpling, and Barney soundchecking. Somebody around the taper says, "What's he using?" in reference to equipment, presumably, not drugs. Various other random things. Somebody sounds like he says "Oh...fuck everyone!" at around the two-minute and forty-five second mark.
03:30 Synths from Decades.
04:20 Drum and bass sequencer for 586. Then some silence and mic checks.
08:40 586. First few seconds are low volume over the PA. This take has vocals but sounds crappy over the sound system.
11:40 Some more silence.
12:10 Bit of bass from LonesomeTonight, the same bit that was played by a bass synth earlier, as well as a different bit. Also, the synths.
13:20 Lonesome__Tonight_, with vocals.
18:15 Another quiet bit, and then a vocal check and a bit of bass.
20:35 Keyboards for Thieves__Like___Us_.
22:00 Instrumental take of TLU.
27:20 Hooky starts talking, none of which I can make out. A bit of keyboars and bass synth as Barney replies to him.
30:00 Various bits of Confusion, including guitar and bass.
32:05 Confusion, with vocals.
37:15 More silence, and more Decades bass, some chatter between band members, and more "one two"s.
41:00 Age__Of___Consent_, with vocals. Final part is cut as tape runs out at the 45:45 mark.
I have concluded that this is probably a spurious entry.
Love Vigilantes wasn't played until the start of '85, and New Order had just finished up their East Coast leg of their '83 tour in early July, so to go back three weeks later would make no sense.
The tracks to referred here most probably originate with New Order's performance at the Felt Forum on 1 AUG 85.
I have three copies of this performance, with two different sources.
#1 is a tape with this gig and the soundcheck, the sound is about third/fourth generation on this one, with some hiss and rumble. 8/9. GaoBest has a copy of this that is pristine first-generation sounding (but is actually 2nd gen, according to him), 9/9+, which I have since obtained and copied. This version does not have a cut 586! This source also appears on volume six of the New Order MP3 Anthologies, and is taken from an even higher generation source than my original tape copy.
#2 has only surfaced recently, and apparently was taped by Neil Donkin. It has somewhat superior sound to the first two copies (not so sure about this after listening to GaoBest's), and a good "down in front" feel without the chanting. 9-/9, only marred by a couple of technical glitches.
A lot of the following information should help the gentle reader figure out the difference between all the version. The original writeup is based on listening to #1.
There appears to be absolutely no interaction between New Order and the crowd here.
We__All___Stand_
#2 has sporadic chattering from 0:30 - 1:00.
Ceremony
Two strummed chords, and full speed ahead.
#2 has scuffling between 0:30 - 0:40.
#1 has annoying heckling between Ceremony and Leave__Me___Alone_. Sounds like football chants, fairly silly stuff. "Come on you Spurs!" can be heard in between Leave Me Alone and IALP, as well as between IALP and Hurt.
Hurt
Has a bass solo not otherwise present on the normal, released version. #2 has a skip about 2:30 in, dunno if this is just in my CD (I suspect it is) or a problem upstream. If you listen carefully during the intro, you can hear a bit of vocoder, similar to what was used in the Order's cover of "Love Reaction". :) Excellent, excellent version.
Some Hawaiian guitar chords before the drumming which marks Denial, marred by Bernard flubbing the opening verse. Fans yell out 1-2-3-4 on this.
Tape break in #1 version.
Ultraviolence
Features a Wild West-type opening riff, or it could be an attempt at The Rolling Stones' "Satisfaction".
Go here for a listen:
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/New_Order-19831202-Ultraviolence_intro.mp3
BS: "Eddie, can I have more DMX through the front...and through here as well." A really good version of this underrated gem. Has the "who killed my father" lyrics.
Age__Of___Consent_
Either Bernard was forgetting lyrics or they were having mic problems... he repeats the first line..."Won't you...please let me go?" three times.
#2 has a skip at about 2:15, could be a mastering fault.
586
My earlier copies of #1 and 2 has a cut here, as this is the A/B split, but the GaoBest #1 does not!
Another repeated first line...Bernard swears about his foldbacks or something like that, but does it in his singing voice:
BS: "Straghtaway you left...Eddie, would you take the fucking Quadra out the foldback."
A few females chatter away on #2 in the thirty seconds between the end of 5-8-6 and Confusion.
Confusion
New Order really goes wild with the samples on this version.
#2 has a scuffle about 1:15 in. Loud female shouting "No!" or something like that about 4:20 in. The Anthologies version of #1 cuts after 4:47 (the song is about seven minuts long). All other versions are complete.
Soundcheck
Sound appears to have been taken from a video recorder.
Drums and a bit of cheesy keyboard, and distortion.
"202, tom." Something about speakers.
Drumming from Heart__and___Soul_, and more distortion
Keyboards from Your__Silent___Face_ aka KW1, and yet more distortion.
Keyboards from Blue__Monday_, and the sequencer.
Keys and synths for Confusion.
Some talking, and unrecognizing keyboard playing.
Bass riffs...aborted JD riffs.
Birthday Party riffs
One Two Three Four ad infinitum
Start of Bass Riff for 586, then some dialogue, and then a long synth note, followed by other similar notes.
Some drums and bass, nothing recognizable.
A couple of interesting bass riffs, and then some more.
Drum machine for 5.8.6, and sequencer patterns.
Then a performance of 5.8.6!
And Leave__Me___Alone_, including backing vocals.
More synth notes. Then the tape cuts off.
