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Read sequentially only if you are excessively anal-retentive. Otherwise check out http://www.waterrat.com/nogig.htm for Water Rat's summary listing, and http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs for my amended list.
I am indebted to the following individuals for sharing their collections and knowledge: Mike 'GaoBest' Siao, Tracey Spivey, Philip Collins, Simon Park, TJ, Jan Bollansee, Drew Crumbaugh, Peter Andersen, Simon 'Snotters' Hardy, John 'Dave Mings' Saunders, Stephen Smith and many, many others too numerous to mention.
NO-820305 Saint Francis Xavier Hall - Dublin, Ireland
writeup, such that it is
NO-830422 Savoy - Cork, Ireland
corrections
NO-830424 Rosehill Hotel - Kilkenny, Ireland
NO-850816 Rainbow Music Hall - Denver, CO
NO-860122 Connolly Hall - Cork, Iresland
NO-830426 Saint Francis Xaver Hall - Dublin, Ireland
writeup
NO-840706 Palma Club -> Pacha Auditiorium
full fixing of venue name
writeup
NO-820305 Venue is "Saint" and not "Sir" Francis Xavier Hall
NO-860124
NO-860125
writeup
full writeup
additions/corrections
NO-850503 Club 'D' - Tokyo, Japan
full writeup
corrections
NO-810114 Plato's - Liverpool
comment about Bela Lugosi that I missed
NO-830630 Cabaret Metro - Chicago, IL
a recording has finally surfaced!
NO-830708 Ontario Theatre - Washington D.C.
corrections
NO-861128 Auditorium de Verdun - Montreal
addition from Patrick Bergeron
addition from Dave Marin
NO-860121 The Warwick Hotel - Galway
venue + ticket scan
NO-870216 Thebarton Theatre
Cchanged from "Town Hall" to "Theatre".
NO-890120 The Zenith - Montpellier
more info from 'hedfro hedfro'
NO-810104 The Fan Club (Brannigan's) - Leeds
recollections from Neil O'Connor
NO-840627 Mayfair Suite - Southampton
recollection of opening band from Brynn
NO-860913 Caird Hall - Dundee
recollection from Trevor
NO-861114 Maceba Theatre - Houston, TX
writeup
NO-010728 Fuji Rock Festival - Japan
edits
NO-860327 The Apollo - Oxford
corrections
NO-890420 City Coliseum - Austin, TX
writeup
NO-870913 The Forum - Los Angeles, CA
writeup
NO-820414 Lido - Leuven, Belgium
writeup
NO-831201 Brixton Academy (Fair Play)
corrections
NO-831202 Town Hall Bournmouth
corrections
NO-861204 Irvine Auditorium - University of Pennsylvania
correction
NO-890711 Lake Compounce Festival Park - Bristol, CD
additions
NO-850520 Easts Leagues Club - Brisbane
start of BM on 2nd source
NO-870903 CNE Grandstand - Toronto
addition
NO-870901 Montreal University - Montreal
addition
NO-120227 Vector Arena - Auckland, New Zealand
addition
NO-120301 Festival Hall - Melbourne, Australia
addition
NO-120303 Future Music Festival - Brisbane, Australia
addition
additions
NO-111017 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels
writeup
NO-111018 Le Bataclan - Paris
writeup
NO-111201 Estadio Obras - Buenos Aires
(partial) writeup
NO-111210 Troxy - London
writeup
NO-800730 Beach Club (Oozits) - Manchester
Clarifications, date change
NO-801101 The Basement - Brighton
new information on venue name
not sure of the date, likely between 10/21 - 11/03
NO-840826 Guildhall - Portsmouth
corrections/additions
NO-861029 Mesa Amphetheatre - Phoenix, AZ
venue name correction and TPK was in the set
NO-861204 Irvine Auditorium - University of Pennsylvania
venue name update; corrections
NO-061011 Academy - Newcastle
corrections
NO-870824 Mann Music Center - Philadelphia
corrections
NO-811121 City Gardens - Trenton, NJ
FHTH-provided setlist added
NO-830705 The Spectrum - Montreal
correction
NO-800926 Hurrah's - NYC
fixed JDC link
NO-810506 Forum Ballroom - Kentish Town
full writeup
NO-830629 First Aveneue - Minneapolis, MN
audience version added
NO-830705 Spectrum Ballroom - Montreal
corrections
NO-830707 Paradise Garage - NYC
corrections
NO-890416 Saenger Theatre - New Orleans, LA
full writeup
NO-890711 Lake Compounce Park - Bristol, CT
writeup
NO-050429 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland, CA
full writeup
NO-830619 Nightlife - Austin, TX
added link to NOOL browser for review
NO-850802 Opera House - Boston, MA
writeup
NO-850802 Bismarck Theatre - Chicago IL
edits
NO-861013 Hacienda - Manchester
edits
NO-890415 Southern Star Amphitheatre - Atlanta, GA
added review by Johnathan Scott
NO-890416 Saenger Theatre - New Orleans, LA
added review by Johnathan Scott
NO-890412 Bayfront Arena - St. Petersburg, FL
review by Johnathan Scott
NO-890414 O'Connell Auditorium - Gainesville, FL
review by Johnathan Scott
NO-890411 Knight Centre - Miami, FL
review by Johnathon Scott
NO-060715 Anilla Olimpica - Montjuic (Barcelona) Spain
writeup from ATR recording
NO-890120 The Zenith Montpellier
writeup
NO-850515 Canterbury Court - Perth
this may be the true date of the Atlanta '85 show
NO-870821 Merriweather Post Pavilion - Columbia Maryland
writeup
NO-860328 Brighton Centre - Brighton
additions from Stephen Smith
NO-860911 Playhouse Theatre - Edinburgh
additions from Stephen Smith
NO-050527 Primavera Sound Festival - Barcelona
writeup from ATR audence recording
NO-050710 Oxegen Festival - Punchestown Racecourse
additions from ATR audience recording
clip of DNE
NO-821206 Union Hall - Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
writeup
NO-851108 Pavilion - Hemel Hempstead
additions from Stephen Smith
NO-890825 Reading Festival
corrections
writeup
NO-060603 Ejekt Festival - Athens Greece
writeup (incomplete)
NO-010728 Fuji Rock Festival
corrections
NO-830413 Pathfoot Hall - Stirling
corrections from Stephen Smith
NO-840402 Volkshaus - Zurich
corrections from Stephen Smith
NO-861002 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
corrections from Stephen Smith
NO-870815 Pine Knob Amphitheatre - Clarkston, MI
writeup from 'ellaguru' DIME version
NO-830413 Pathfoot Hall - Stirling University
addition
NO-810327 Trinity Hall - Bristol
more additions to s/c
NO-810507 Talbot Talbernacle - London
s/c thanks to Duncan
NO-890715 Merriweather Post Pavilion - Columbia MD
setlist + full writeup
NO-810327 Trinity Hall - Bristol
corrections
NO-810508 Student Union - Reading
additional version
NO-830702 St. Andrews Hall - Detroit
additions
NO-830709 City Gardens - Trenton NJ
setlist corrections
NO-840704 Rock-Ola - Madrid, Spain
correct setlist/info
NO-870606 Super Tent - Finsbury Park
another version
NO-830415 Pavilion - Ayr
Not at the Orient Cinema, venue was changed at the last minute
NO-050612 Hurricane Festival - Hamburg, Germany
writeup based on HDTV 1080i H.264 video
NO-020201 RA&HS Showgrounds Adelaide, Australia
writeup
NO-820123 Imperial Cinema - Birmingham
writeup
NO-850314 Lancaster University
addition of TJ's recollections
NO-850409 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
additions/corrections
NO-851022 Guildhall - Preston
additions/corrections
writeup
NO-850419 Leisure Centre - Macclesfield
corrections
NO-870919 Greek Theatre - Berkeley CA
additions/corrections
writeup
NO-870905 Civic Center - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
corrections
"brubut"'s recollections
NO-870915 Compton Terrace - Phoenix, AZ
setlist from MDMArchive
NO-890421 Astroworld - Houston TX
setlist from MDMArchive
NO-890618 Irvine Meadows Amphitheater - Irvine, CA
setlist from MDMArchive
addition cortesty of Johnny Dobbyn
NO-870606 The Roxy - Sheffield
writeup
writeup
NO-861002 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham, England
slight corrections
NO-830226 Kolingsborg - Stockholm
corrections
NO-830623 The Fantasy - Fullerton CA
reminisence by John Darnelle
NO-860314 University - Loughborough
upgrade
NO-870825 Pier 84 - NYC
corrections/additions
NO-890714 Mann Music Center - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
writeup
NO-810321 The Boys' Club - Bedford
writeup
NO-810322 Jenkinson's Bar - Brighton
writeup of DH version
NO-821203 Mainstreet Cabaret - Auckland
writeup
NO-850809 Warner Theatre - Washington D.C.
corrections
NO-870217 The Venue - Melbourne Australia
corrections
NO-890629 Marcus Amphitheatre - Milwaukee, WI
full writeup
NO-981231 Alexandra Palace - London
corrections
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View CA
corrections
NO-011118 Cirkus - Stockholm
full writeup from aud version (FM version is edited)
NO-020526 Le Zenith - Paris
full writeup
NO-020629 Roskilde Festival - Denmark
corrections
NO-851207 The Fulcrum - Slough
minor additions
NO-870129 Festival Hall - Osaka
writeup
NO-810418 Victoria Hotel - Aberdeen
writeup
NO-870127 Tokyo, Japan
writeup
NO-020123 Hornden Pavilion - Sydney
full writeup
NO-810112 Eglinton Toll Plaza - Glasgow, Scotland
additions/corrections
NO-840811 Seaside Festival - De Panne, Belgium
writeup
NO-890427 Universal Amphiteatre - Universal City CA
corrections
NO-811122 Pepperment Lounge - NYC
additional notes for new version
NO-840330 Uni-Mensa - Dusseldorf
writeup
NO-810104 The Fan Club (Branningan's) - Leeds
writeup
NO-850206 Barrowlands - Glasgow
additional notes for new version
NO-810103 Tatton Community Centre - Chorley
addition of Duncan's version
NO-840605 Studio - Bristol
writeup
NO-020614 Hultsfred Festival - Sweden
corrections
NO-060902 Electric Picnic - Ireland
additions
NO-850205 Caley Palais - Edinburgh
corrections
NO-061113 Via Funchal - Sao Paolo
writeup
NO-061018 Academy - Glasgow
writeup
NO-061009 International Centre - Bournemouth
writeup
NO-061113 Via Funchal - Sao Paolo
writeup
NO-810407 Tabernacle - London, England
addition of new source
NO-811107 Market St. Cinema - San Francisco CA
addition of JJ version
NO-820226 Trinity Hall - Bristol
additions/corrections
NO-861130 McMaster University (Ivor Wynne Center) - Hamilton ON
writeup + MDMArchive link
NO-930702 Montreux Jazz Festival - Switzerland
additional songs
NO-861101 Irvine Meadows - Irvine, CA
writeup
NO-861202 Syria Mosque - Pittsburgh, PA
additions
NO-061111 Mineirao Stadium - Belo Horizonte
writeup
NO-870218 Festival Hall - Melbourne
corrections
NO-870516 Pabellon - Mollerussa, Spain
writeup
NO-011115 Columbiahalle - Berlin
corrections
NO-061116 Vivo Rio - Rio De Janeiro
correcton from rafernandes
NO-06xxxx Autumn dates
corrections on backing track from rafernandes
NO-061110 Ginasio Nilson Nelson, Brasilia
writeup of ATR version
NO-061019 Academy - Glasgow
writeup of DMG version
NO-851203 The Hacienda - Manchester
additions
NO-860614 Town Hall - Sheffield
additions/corrections
NO-860629 Greetings Four - San Giovanni Valdarno Italy
note about date
NO-860816 Open Air Festival, Valby - Copenhagen
full writeup
NO-861115 Bronco Bowl - Dallas
setlist
NO-870815 Pine Knob Theatre - Clarkston, MI
setlist courtesy of MDMArchive
NO-850614 The Pink, Punk, Pimms event - New Hall College, Cambridge
correction of setlist and URL
NO-861115 Bronco Bowl - Dallas
new gig uncovered thanks to LB
NO-020615 Hultsfred Festival - Sweden
corrections
NO-061027 Wembley Arena - London
additions/corrections
NO-061116 Vivo Rio - Rio de Janeiro
writeup
NO-061118 Personal Festival - Buenos Aires
additions
NO-860123 Connolly Hall - Cork, Ireland
writeup
NO-840710 Estadio Municipal - Marbella
corrections
NO-811109 I-Beam - San Francisco
addition of text
NO-851210 El Dorado - Paris
new version, corrections
NO-860329 Arts Centre - Poole
writeup of two versions
NO-840819 Leisure Centre - Gloucester, England
full writeup
NO-860227 Civic Hall - Wolverhamption
full writeup
NO-860629 Greetings Four - San Giovanni Valdarno Italy
addition of audience recording, as well as date change
NO-861210 El Dorado - Paris
writeup
NO-861122 Fox Theatre - Detroit MI
writeup
NO-870610 The Hacienda - Manchester
from video
NO-870829 Pier 84 - NYC
corrections
MDMArchive setlists for the following shows!
NO-890504 Queen Elizabeth Theatre - Vancouver
NO-890616 Irvine Meadows - Irvine, CA
NO-890617 Aztec Bowl - San Diego, CA
NO-8906XX unknown date (perhaps 2nd Irvine or Utah)
NO-890625 Sandstone Amphitheatre - Bonner Springs, Kansas
NO-890627 Minneapolis/St. Paul
NO-890629 Marchus Amphitheatre - Milwaukee, WI
NO-890630 Poplar Creek Music Theatre - Hoffman Estates, IL
NO-851207 Fulcrum - Slough
addition of audience version
NO-061118 Club Ciudad - Buenos Aires
writeup of edited FM version
NO-061029 Civic Hall - Wolverhampton
writeup
NO-061011 Carling Academy - Newcastle
writeup
NO-860802 Royal Academy - Liverpool
writeup
NO-861013 The Hacienda - Manchester
full writeup
NO-061027 Wembley Arena - London
writeup
NO-930805 Great Woods Theatre - Mansfield MA
additions
NO-061016 Empress Ballroom - Blackpool
writeup
NO-020120 Gold Coast Parklands - Queensland
additions
NO-020126 RAS Showgrounds - Sydney
full writeup
NO-060902 Stradbally Hall Estate (Electric Picnic) - Ireland
writeup
various minor edits of several entries
NO-060714 Vinas Viejas - Boardilla del Monte (Madrid) Spain
writeup based on FM broadcast
NO-830621 Florentine Gardens - Hollywood
writeup
NO-871208 La Mutualite - Paris
additions
NO-831201 The Academy - Brixton
additions
NO-840826 Guildhall - Preston
correction
NO-861105 The Palladium - Hollywood
writeup
NO-060708 Summer Pops - Liverpool
writeup
NO-840406 Wiener Arena - Vienna
writeup
NO-861212 Fox Theatre - Atlanta GA
full writeup
NO-860928 Valdarno - San Giovanni, Itally
writeup of AM version
NO-011005 The Apollo - Manchester
writeup
NO-011012 The Academy - Brixton
additions
NO-811117 The Channel - Boston, MA
writeup
NO-010718 Olympia Theatre - Liverpool
additions + corrections
NO-810516 Markthalle - Hamburg
writeup (finally!)
NO-820415 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
addition
NO-840603 Powerhouse - Birmingham
additions / corrections
NO-820309 Tiffany's - Leeds
writeups of all versions
NO-011011 Brixton Academy - Brixton
writeup
NO-800926 Hurrah's NYC
opening track confirmed by eyewitness account
NO-801025 The Squat - Manchester
corrections
NO-810925 Assembly Rooms Walthamstow
addition
NO-820911 Futurama Four - Deeside Leisure Centre
additional source
NO-861209 Felt Forum NYC
new version on DIME
NO-870826 Pier 84 - NYC
corrections < new version
NO-871208 Philipshalle (Tor 3) Dusseldorf
two more versions
NO-820622 Rollingstone Milan
additions
NO-890630 Poplar Creek Amphitheatre Hoffman Estates IL
writeup
NO-060128 Manchester vs Cancer, Evening News Arena - Manchester
writeup
NO-050709 T In The Park - Balado, Scotland
BBC3 video writeup
Happy 50th to Hooky!
NO-830625 I-Beam - San Francisco CA
additional comments by sharksfan2000
NO-850820 Kaiser Auditorium - Oakland CA
additional comments by sharksfan2000
NO-851215 Arena - Rotterdam
writeup
NO-861107 Arlington Theatre - Santa Barbara
soundcheck
NO-881217 GMEX - Manchester
writeup of Lazlo's version
NO-930805 Great Woods Theatre - Mansfield MA
writeup
NO-980830 Reading Festival
video version
NO-011010 Brixton Academy - London
writeup
NO-010802 Thunderbird Stadium - Vancouver BC
writeup of 2nd version
NO-050702 Traffic Festival - Torino
corrections based on FM version
NO-051012 Queen Elizabeth Hall London (John Peel Day)
writeup of DVD version
NO-051114 The Apollo - Manchester
corrections based on video broadcast version
NO-051118 Oakwood High School - Eccles, Salford
article
NO-840812 Inside Festival - Liege Belgium
writeup
NO-890825 Reading Festival
corrections
NO-840706 Pacha Auditorium - Valencia Spain
writeup
NO-861006 Royal Albert Hall - London
additions
NO-830705 The Spectrum - Montreal
writeup
RE-930122 The Marquee - London
additions/corrections
NO-050624 Hyde Park - London
addition of Alan Wise intro, sorry Species!
NO-051114 The Apollo - Manchester
writeup
NO-050710 Oxegen Festival - Nass Co. Kildare Ireland
writeup of FM2 broadcast
NO-050731 Fuji Rock Festival - Japan
writeup of video tracks
NO-050525 Glastonbury Festival
additions
NO-050702 Traffic Festival - Torino (Turin) Italy
writeup
NO-850419 Leisure Centre - Macclesfield
writeup
NO-851203 The Hacienda - Manchester
corrections
NO-050610 Southside Festival - Germany
video version
NO-051012 Queen Elizabeth Hall London (John Peel Day)
writeup of BBC version
NO-830510 Victoria Hall - Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent
writeup + craigie* recollection
NO-830625 I-Beam - San Francisco
additional note
NO-870619 Glastonbury Festival
additions/corrections
NO-050714 Arvikafestivalen - Sweden
completed writeup
NO-050722 Les Vieilles Charrues - Brittany, France
writeup
NO-890121 Transbordeur - Lyon
writeup
NO-050625 Glastonbury festival
writeup from BBC3 broadcast
NO-870824 Mann Music Centre - Philadelphia PA
writeup of two versions
NO-870217 The Venue - Melbourne
writeup of additional version
NO-050610 Southside Festival - Germany
writeup
NO-050630 Rock Werchter Festival - Belgium
writeup of broadcast and incomplete AUD video version
NO-810508 Student Union - Reading
correction on soundcheck
NO-811023 Bradford University - Bradford
addition
NO-820311 The Mayfair (Soul Kitchen) - Newcastle
additional version + corrections
NO-840412 Trinity Hall - Hamburg
writeup
NO-840705 Etole - Madrid
revised TJ's quote
NO-840815 Mayfair Suite - Sunderland
new version
NO-050624 Hyde Park - London
full writeup of XM version
NO-050528 Parque Tejo (Super Bock, Super Rock) - Lisbon, Portugal
writeup
NO-810327 Trinity Hall - Bristol
corrections
NO-850410 The Mayfair - Swansea, Wales
writeup
NO-020629 Roskilde Festival - Denmark
additional source - corrections
NO-810327 Trinity Hall - Bristol
writeup of soundcheck
NO-811023 Bradford University
writeup of soundcheck
NO-820122 North London Polytechnic
writeup of soundcheck
NO-820226 Trinity Hall - Bristol, England
writeup of soundcheck
NO-820524 Pennies - Norwich, England
writeup of soundcheck
NO-830311 The Ace - Brixton
writeup of soundcheck
NO-830411 Coasters - Edinburgh
writeup of soundcheck
NO-850804 The International Centre - Toronto
additions
NO-850816 Rainbow Music Theartre - Denver
not Boulder, bring this in accordance to WIM
NO-860124 SFX Center - Dublin
additions/corrections
NO-860328 Brighton Centre - Brighton
writeup
NO-870212 Enmore Theatre - Sydney
corrections
NO-870213 Enmore Theatre - Sydney
corrections
NO-870630 Reading University - Reading
full writeup
NO-020622 Hurricane Festival - Germany
writeup
NO-851025 Octagon - Sheffield University - Sheffield
writeup
NO-020623 Southside Festival - Germany
writeup
NO-810923 Sheffield Polytechnic
additions/corrections
NO-811115 Masonic Temple - Toronto
addition of TJ source
NO-830412 Assembly Rooms - Edinburgh
writeup
NO-860327 The Apollo - Oxford
corrections
NO-861004 Town & Country Club - London
corrections
NO-860910 Mayfair - Newcastle
corrections
NO-870209 Byron Bay Arts Center
corrections + s/c addition
NO-840826 Guildhall - Portsmouth
new version + corrections
NO-840827 Heaven Ultradisco - London
corrections
NO-860911 The Playhouse - Edinburgh
corrections
NO-860913 Caird Hall - Dundee
corrections
NO-050501 Coachella Festival
writeup (AK version)
NO-050505 Hammerstein Ballroom - NYC
writeup + corrections (both versions)
NO-861126 Massey Hall - Toronto, Canada
writeup
NO-820411 Muziekzentrum Vrendenburg, Utrecht
writeup
NO-861108 Berkeley Community Theatre - Berkeley CA
writeup
NO-870402 Coronet - Woolwich
corrections
NO-870826 Pier 84 - NYC
correction
NO-890616 Irvine Meadows - Irvine, CA
corrections
NO-981229 Manchester Evening News Arena - Manchester, England
corrections
NO-981231 Alexandria Palace "Ally Pally" - London, England
corrections
NO-050714 Arvikafestivalen - Sweden
writeup of encore
http://www.neworderonline.com/Forums/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=22251
NO-830707 Paradise Garage - NYC
addition
NO-860227 Civic Hall - Wolverhamption
addition
NO-870402 Woolwich Coronet - Woolwich, England
addition
NO-890705 Blossom Music Centre - Cuyahoga Falls OH
addition
NO-980830 Reading Festival
slight addition
NO-020228 Metro - Melbourne, Australia
intro to Atmosphere
NO-820408 Glazenzaal - Rotterdam, Netherlands
writeup
NO-821125 Palais Theatre - Melbourne
writeup
NO-840825 Radio 1 "Saturday Live"
additions
NO-861107 Arlington Theatre - Santa Barbara CA
continuation of writeup / corrections
NO-861107 Arlington Theatre - Santa Barbara CA
writeup
NO-820626 The Hacienda - Manchester
additional version + corrections from Josef K
NO-830509 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
correction
NO-840815 Mayfair Suite - Sunderland
full transcrption
NO-850816 Rainbow Music Hall - Boulder, CO
full transcription
NO-861031 San Diego State University Open Air Theatre - San Diego, CA
full transcription of MB master
NO-010802 Thunderbird Stadium - Vancouver, BC
corrections
NO-830311 Ace - Brixton
full transcription
NO-830617 688 Club - Atlanta, GA
transcription
NO-830702 St. Andrews Hall - Detroit, MI
full transcription
NO-840816 City Hall - Hull
additions/corrections
NO-870404 The Academy - Brixton
corrections
NO-850814 City Coliseum - Austin, TX
transcription
NO-830630 Cabaret Metro - Chicago, IL
descriptions
NO-861124 Congress Centre - Ottawa Ontario
note about second version
NO-050503 Aragon Ballroom - Chicago, IL
corrections from drew
NO-840826 Guildhall - Portsmouth
detail regarding soundcheck
NO-850804 The International Centre - Toronto
additional comment
NO-861121 Aragon Ballroom - Chicago, IL
transcription
NO-890825 Reading Festival
full transcription
NO-930604 Dublin Point Depot - Dublin, Ireland
transcription
NO-980716 The Apollo - Manchester
corrections
NO-010718 Olympia Theatre - Liverpool
corrections
NO-050501 Coachella Festival
transcription of DPA (I think) version
NO-050503 Aragon Ballroom - Chicago, IL
full transcription
NO-830707 Paradise Garage - NYC
corrections/additions based on full audience tape
NO-930724 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA
full transcription of D3 version
NO-050217 NME Awards - Hammersmith Palais
full transcription of award
NO-050321 CANAL +DECALE
transcription
NO-050503 Aragon Ballroom - Chicago, IL
drewc description (full transcription forthcoming)
NO-830126 The Hacienda - Manchester
transcription of soundcheck
NO-050429 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Centre - Oakland, CA
transcription
NO-050501 Coachella Festival
notes/reviews
NO-830312 Recreation Centre - Kingston-Upon-Thames Tolworth England
more corrections
NO-830625 I-Beam - San Francisco, CA
transcription
NO-861002 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
additions/corrections - additional source
NO-820616 Tenax - Florence, Italy
transcription
NO-930826 Reading Festival - England
addition of full BBC version
NO-850127 Finsbury Park - London
transcription of Snotters version
NO-861031 San Diego University Open Air Theatre
transcription + RM's observations/corrections
NO-870606 Super Tent - Finsbury
transcription of Solitude version
NO-810422 Romeo & Juliet's - Sheffield
transcription
NO-811026 The Ritz - Manchester
transcription of craigie version
NO-830415 Orient Cinema - Ayr
additions/corrections
NO-830626 The Hacienda - Manchester
correction sent in by Dave Mings
NO-840408 Metropol - Berlin
additions based on complete lossless version
NO-840627 The Mayfair - Southampton
transcription
NO-860910 The Mayfair - Newcastle
transcription
NO-890325 S.E.C.C - Glasgow
minor edits
NO-890326 N.E.C.C. - Birmingham
different source, added Alan Wise intro
NO-890825 Reading Festival
addition of 'Fine Time'
NO-810517 Saltlagaret - Copenhagen, Denmark
writeup (not too exciting)
NO-800930 Scamps - Blackpool
corrections
NO-800930 The Underground - Boston
additions
NO-810209 Heaven Ultradisco - London
gig writeup
NO-811013 Bradford University - Bradford
magazine article
NO-810207 Road-Menders Club - Northampton
additions
NO-810410 Cedar Club - Birmingham
writeup
NO-881217 GMEX - Manchester
complete writeup
NO-890825 Reading Festival
part of soundcheck
NO-980716 The Apollo - Manchester
correction from fki
NO-020625 Le Zenith - Paris
Link to ATR article
NO-860614 City Hall - Sheffield
second source from CH tape
NO-050217 NME Awards - Hammersmith Palais, London
writeup of broadcast video
NO-840820 Winter Gardens - Margate
audience version writeup
NO-860621 Loughborough University
writeup
NO-020713 Old Trafford Cricket Grounds - Manchester
finally finished writeup
NO-810112 Eglington Toll Plaza - Glasgow, Scotland
clarification
NO-810408 Rock City - Nottingham
additions based on 2nd version
NO-820303 Blue Note - Derby
correction from Josef K
NO-820525 Kilburn National Ballroom - London, England
complete writeup
NO-861002 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
writeup based on archives tape version
NO-870912 Irvine Meadows - Irvine CA
writeup + correction by Dave Mings
NO-871208 La Mutualite - Paris, France
submission from Cristophe Basterra
NO-810519 The Roxy - Stockholm, Sweden
corrections/additions
NO-870918 The Greek Theatre - Berkeley CA
writeup
NO-810513 Palais Des Arts - Paris, France
writeup
NO-850417 University - Salford, England
full writeup
NO-810102 Porterhouse - Retford, Nottinghamshire
writeup
NO-820911 Futurama Four - Deeside Leisure Centre Queensferry North Wales
clearing up ambiguities regarding location
NO-930710 Loreley Bizarre Festival - St. Goarshausen, Germany
writeup
NO-810525 Chateau Neuf - Oslo
link to gig review
NO-871208 La Mutualite - Paris
added link to gig review
NO-890120 The Zenith - Montpellier
added link to gig review
NO-830702 St. Andrews Hall - Detroit
writeup based on W. German-sourced tape
NO-890614 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View CA
additional source writeup
NO-010803 Gorge Amphitheater - Gorge (Seattle), WA Area One
additions/corrections
NO-810423 'Celebration' - Granada Studios Manchester
outtake tracks
NO-820524 Pennies - Norwich
setlist from TJ audience tape!
NO-821214 Old Melbourne Hotel - Perth
resequenced song listing per correct running order
NO-840705 Rock-Ola Madrid
dicussion regarding Spanish '84 listings
NO-851110 Hammersmith Palais - London
corrections
NO-860913 Caird Hall - Dundee
writeup
NO-860614 Town Hall - Sheffield
writeup
NO-820606 Provinssirock Festival - Seinajoki, Finland
Juha nailed down exact date, was not on Saturday, but Sunday
NO-830129 Great Hall - Cardiff
writeup of gig
NO-840415 Galactica - Luneburg
writeup (probably needs some help)
NO-860127 Queen's College - Belfast
additions
NO-860911 The Playhouse - Edinburgh
soundcheck addition
NO-871210 Wembley Arena - London
addition by Dave Mings
NO-810906 Kultturitalo Helsinki
writeup
NO-850409 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
added soundcheck writeup
NO-020120 Gold Coast Parklands - Gold Coast, Australia
correction from Ronald Kirsch
NO-850716 Hacienda Manchester
writeup of davemings version
NO-810206 Comanche Student Union - Manchester Polytechnic
writeup of CW version
NO-811122 Peppermint Lounge - New York NY
writeup
NO-850409 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
added TJ commentary
NO-850418 Rotters - Doncaster
additions based on TJ-supplied source
NO-820226 Trinity Hall - Bristol
writeup
NO-850409 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
full writeup
NO-820409 Meervaart - Amsterdam, Netherlands
writeup
NO-820622 Rollingstone - Milan, Italy
corrections by 'Dave Mings'
NO-850504 Koseinenkin Kaikan Hall - Osaka, Japan
writeup
NO-851206 Central London Polytechnic
addition
NO-870606 Super Tent - Finsbury, London
writeup
NO-890325 Glasgow S.E.C.C. "SECCstasy" - Glasgow Scotland
correction from 'Mike'
NO-840521 Palais - Leicester
writeup
NO-820410 Stockvishal - Arnhem Netherlands
writeup
NO-871210 Wembly Arena - London
writeup
NO-871206 Philipshalle - Dusseldorf
writeup
NO-850314 Lancaster University
writeup
NO-810419 Valentino's Edinburgh
writeup
NO-820919 Sporting Arena - Athens
full writeup
NO-861003 Winter Gardens - Malvern
writeup
NO-810112 Eglinton Toll Plaza - Glasgow
addition from Mark Johnson
NO-810327 Trinity Hall - Bristol
same as above
NO-810408 Rock City - Nottingham
same as above
A few other additions of a similar nature.
NO-830509 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
correction
NO-830720 The Hacienda - Manchester
corrections/additions
NO-800905 Scamps - Blackpool
clarification from Mark Johnson's book (for what's that worth)
NO-801219 College Of Arts - Rochdale
same as above
NO-820617 Piper - Rome, Italy
writeup
NO-851025 University of London Union - London
additions/corrections
NO-811109 I-Beam - San Francisco CA
writeup
NO-850128 Michael Sobell Sports Centre - Finsbury Park, London
corrections
NO-811107 Market St. Cinema - San Francisco CA
writeup
NO-820626 The Hacienda - Manchester
consensus is that the supposed "first" set is bogus
NO-830720 The Hacienda - Manchester
correction by Dave Mings
NO-840603 Powerhouse - Birmingham
writeup + snotters' corrections
NO-851022 Guildhall - Preston
additions/corrections
NO-820830 The Venue - Blackpool
writeup with recollection/notes from JC of EZT
NO-850801 Felt Forum - NYC
corrections
NO-860913 Caird Hall - Dundee
TJ recollection
NO-820104 'Riverside' - BBC 2 - Hammersmith, London
writeup based on unaired version
NO-820122 North London Polytechnic - London
full writeup based on 820104+820122 src
NO-820409 Meervaart - Amsterdam, Netherlands
writeup
NO-821214 Old Melbourne Hotel - Perth
additional notes thanks to J Bollansee
NO-850518 Coogie Bay Hotel - Sydney
correction by J Cross
NO-850820 Henry Kaiser Convention Centre - Oakland CA
addition
NO-010811 Mungersdorfer Stadium - Cologne Germany
remainder of between-song banter written up
NO-861004 Town And Country Club - London
corrections based on DJ version
NO-861013 The Hacienda - Manchester
note about date change from the 7th of October
NO-800920 Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey
updated URL
NO-810206 Comanche Student Union - Manchester Polytechnic
writeup
NO-820621 Palasport - Bologna
complete writeup
NO-861006 Royal Albert Hall - London
video version
NO-861104 The Palace - Hollywood, CA
writeup from audience version
NO-930829 Reading Festival
how could I forget the MJ lyrics in TF?
NO-020629 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
complete writeup
NO-820311 The Soul Kitchen (Mayfair Suite) - Newcastle
writeup
NO-861004 Town And Country Club - London
writeup of video version
NO-861006 Royal Albert Hall - London
additions/corrections
NO-830411 Coasters - Edinburgh
writeup
NO-850205 Caley Palais - Edinburgh, Scotland
additional source + corrections
NO-820303 Blue Note - Derby
writeup
NO-830225 Kolingsborg - Stockholm Sweden
different source noted
NO-830414 Tiffany's - Glasgow
correction
NO-830422 Savoy - Cork, Ireland
correction
NO-840820 Winter Gardens - Margate
writeup based on 4 tracks of sbd copy
NO-870619 Glastonbury Festival
additions based on audience tape
NO-020713 Old Trafford Cricket Grounds - Manchester
additional song intro
NO-800103 Tatton Community Center - Chorley
writeup
NO-810322 Jenkinson's Bar - Brighton
writeup
NO-981229 Manchester Evening News Arena - Manchester, England
full writeup
NO-011116 Palladium - Cologne, Germany
added (incomplete) CD version
NO-011118 Cirkus - Stockholm, Sweden
added (incomplete) CD version
NO-020625 Lansdowne Road - Dublin, Ireland
writeup
NO-800905 Scamps - Blackpool
full writeup
NO-811106 Perkins Palace - Pasadena, CA
writeup
NO-811115 The Masonic Temple - Toronto, Canada
writeup
NO-821127 Seaview Ballroom - Melbourne, Australia
writeup from GaoBest-provided video
NO-861104 The Palace - Hollywood, CA
writeup from FM version
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA
corrections/underlining
NO-011112 Olympia - Paris, France
full writeup from FM version
NO-011115 Columbiahalle - Berlin, Germany
full writeup from mixer
NO-020615 Hultsfred Festival - Sweden
corrections
NO-020713 Old Trafford Cricket Grounds - Manchester
a few more song intros written up
NO-810527 SO36 Club - Berlin, Germany
notes from booomboom's STG posts
NO-850417 University - Salford, England
info about video source from Simon Park
NO-851217 Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB) - Leuven, Belgium
info about video source from Simon Park
NO-801213 Utopia, Hal 4 - Rotterdam Holland
writeup
NO-850423 Logan Campbell Centre - Auckland New Zealand
additional source - cleared up lyrics on 'Love Juice'
NO-851110 Hammersmith Palais - London
additional source
NO-890712 Jones Beach - Wantagh, New York
complete writeup
NO-801219 College Of Arts - Rochdale
writeup
NO-820524 Pennies - Norwich
correction sent in by Jan Bollansee
NO-830624 Echo Beach - San Francisco, CA
full writeup
NO-840514 Royal Festival Hall - London
correction sent in by Philip Collins
NO-850205 Caley Palais - Edinburgh, Scotland
correction by Dave Mings
NO-850520 Easts Leagues Club, Brisbane Australia
corrections
NO-860719 Manchester Exhibition Center (GMEX)
additional notes based from Lazlo->Snotters FM version
NO-980830 Reading Festival, England
corrections/additions
NO-981231 Alexandria Palace "Ally Pally" - London, England
corrections from Simon Park
NO-820415 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
additional information based on Snotters version
NO-820606 Provinssirock Festival - Seinajoki, Finland
information regarding setlist and gig sent in by Ilona Joki
NO-820911 Futurama Four - Deeside Leisure Center Queensferry North Wales
corrections
NO-840319 Caesar's Palace - Bradford
reediting/corrections based on snotters version
NO-840514 Royal Festival Hall - London
soundcheck writeup
NO-851211 Salle Villar, Maison De La Culture - Rennes, France
corrections from drewc
NO-851213 Salle Du Baron - Orleans, France
writeup
NO-851217 Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB) - Brussels, Belgium
additional notes
NO-861208 DAR Constitution Hall - Washington D.C.
additions based on rburton tape
NO-890325 Glasgow S.E.C.C. "SECCstasy" - Glasgow Scotland
corrections
NO-890414 Southern Star Amphitheatre - Atlanta, Georgia
additions based on drewc remaster
NO-890705 Blossom Music Center - Cuyahoga Falls (Cleveland), Ohio
additions
writeup
corrections from Drew
NO-850804 International Centre - Toronto, Canada
writeup of FM version
NO-930729 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, Illinois (Chicago)
corrections from Drew
Track name underlining complete for '87.
full writeup
NO-811024 The Ritz - Manchester
writeup + 'snotters' notes
NO-820626 The Hacienda - Manchester
full writeup
NO-840701 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
completed writeup
correction
NO-851110 Hammersmith Palais - London
corrections
NO-930729 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, Illinois (Chicago)
writeup
writeup
NO-980715 The Apollo Theatre - Manchester
soundcheck the night before
Track name underlining complete for '93-'98.
writeup
NO-820310 Tower Cinema, Hull, England
gig writeup
NO-010614 Hultsfred Festival - Hultsfred, Sweden
completed writeup
information about source
NO-800921 Maxwell's - Hoboken New Jersey
information and sample
NO-890616 Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre - Irvine, California
correction from 'drew crumbaugh'
addition
NO-890226 Big World Cafe
writeup
note regarding origination of silver CD
NO-810527 SO36 Club - Berlin Germany
note
NO-830126 The Hacienda - Manchester
note
NO-830619 Nightlife - Austin, Texas
writeup of soundcheck
NO-850128 Michael Sobell Sports Centre - Finsbury Park, London
writeup of video version
NO-840825 Radio 1 "Saturday Live"
additions/corrections
NO-850517 Powerhouse - Melbourne
corrections
NO-850720 WOMAD Festival - Mersea Island Essex England
writeup of video version
NO-851203 Hacienda - Manchester, England (Both Sets)
correction
NO-851217 Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB) - Brussels, Belgium
info about video
NO-860317 Apollo Theatre - Oxford
corrections
NO-861208 DAR Constitution Hall - Washington DC
additional info about another source
NO-870609 Barrowlands - Glasgow
writeup
NO-890326 Birmingham N.E.C.C. - Birmingham, England
JB source info from GaoBest
NO-010803 Gorge Auditorum - George, Washington
corrections
Track name underlining complete through NZ/AUS Feb '87.
note about Procession
NO-810925 Assembly Rooms - Walthamstow
writeup
NO-820415 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
writeup
NO-860912 Barrowlands - Glasgow
full writeup
NO-861002 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham, England
Barney quote
listed support
NO-810408 Rock City - Nottingham
partial gig writeup
NO-820417 Le Palace - Paris
note
NO-820525 National Ballroom - London England
note
NO-820622 Rollingstone - Milan, Italy
update
NO-821208 Victoria University - Wellington, New Zealand
full writeup
NO-830414 Tiffany's - Glasgow, Scotland
full writeup
NO-830424 Rosehill Hotel - Kilkenny, Ireland
note
NO-831202 Town Hall - Bournemouth, England
updates
NO-840331 Haus Nied - Frankfurt, Germany
update
NO-840816 City Hall - Hull
updates
NO-850127 Tiffanys - Leeds
full writeup
NO-850128 Michael Sobell Sports Centre - Finsbury Park, London
updates
NO-850206 Barrowlands - Glasgow, Scotland
updates
NO-850823 Logan Campbell Centre - Auckland, New Zealand
soundcheck (Love Vigilantes)
NO-850720 WOMAD Festival - Mersea Island Essex England
full writeup
NO-851025 University of London Union - London, England
updates
NO-851110 Hammersmith Palais - London
writeup of Simon Park version
NO-851211 Salle Villar, Maison De La Culture - Rennes, France
updates
NO-851217 Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB) - Brussels, Belgium
difference between FM and mixer versions
NO-860228 St. George's Hall - Bradford
gig writeup
NO-870404 The Academy - Brixton, England
full writeup
gig writeup
NO-830225 Kolingsborg - Stockholm, Sweden
additions/corrections
NO-830226 Kolingsborg - Stockholm, Sweden
writeup
NO-840514 Royal Free Hall - London
full writeup
NO-860124 Sir Francis Xavier Center - Dublin, Ireland
corrections
NO-860125 Sir Francis Xavier Center - Dublin, Ireland
writeup
NO-860228 St. George's Hall - Bradford
writeup of soundcheck portion
NO-860327 Apollo Theatre, Oxford
corrections from Al Jarvis
NO-870212 Enmore Theatre - Sydney, Australia NO-870213 note added
writeup of audience version
note added
NO-850806 Bismark Theatre - Chicago, Illinois
writeup
NO-870207 The Roxy - Brisbane, Australia
note of source
NO-890326 Birmingham N.E.C.C. - Birmingham, England
full writeup
Track name underlining complete for '88-'89.
had Northamption's Road-Menders club listed by mistake
NO-810620 Glastonbury CND Festival
correction from Philip Collins
NO-820524 Pennies - Norwich
corrections/additions
NO-830415 Orient Cinema - Ayr, Scotland
corrections
NO-830509 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
corrections/additions
NO-840822 Goldiggers - Chippenham, England
full writeup
NO-850128 Michael Sobell Sports Centre - Finsbury Park, London
addition from Philip Collins
NO-850418 Rotters - Doncaster
where the out of sequence tape came from
NO-851025 University of London Union - London, England
corrections and explanations from Philip Collins
NO-861206 The Orpheum - Boston, Massachusettes
writeup
NO-850502 Koseinenkin Kaikan Hall - Tokyo, Japan
additional notes based on full gig
NO-851206 Central Polytechnic - London
additional notes from Philip Collins
NO-860327 Apollo Theatre, Oxford
addition from Philip Collins
writeup
writeups for tv/radio appearances
NO-840701 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
partial writeup based on video
NO-860719 Manchester Exhibition Center (GMEX)
mention of video of Ceremony
writeups for tv/radio appearances
writeup
writeup
correction
NO-830720 Hacienda - Manchester
additions (soundcheck writeup forthcoming)
NO-850127 Tiffanys - Leeds, England
notes from Simon Park
NO-850128 Michael Sobell Sports Centre - Finsbury Park, London
corrections from Simon
NO-851110 Hammersmith Palais London
addition from Simon
additions/corrections
NO-850418 Rotters - Doncaster, England
writeup
NO-870130 Festival Hall - Nagoya, Japan
correction of TBTHOG intro
full writeup
NO-830313 Recreation Centre - Kingston-Upon-Thames Tolworth England
corrections sent in by Simon Park
NO-830709 City Gardens - Trenton, New Jersey
writeup
NO-870402 Woolwich Coronet - Woolwich, England
full writeup
Track name underlining complete through '86.
writeup
writeup
NO-840816 City Hall - Hull
gig writeup and review added
NO-840818 Leisure Centre - Gloucester, England
review added
Track name underlining complete through '85.
full writeup
NO-890630 Poplar Creek Music Theater - Hoffman Estates, Illinois (Chicago)
corrections
NO-890705 Blossom Music Center - Cuyahoga Falls (Cleveland), Ohio
writeup
writeup of 'Mesh'
NO-810512 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
writeup of extant tracks
NO-850820 Henry Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland CA
corrections
NO-851217 Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB) - Brussels, Belgium
corrections
NO-010728 Fuji Rock Festival Japan
corrections
writeup
writeup
NO-890428 Universal Amphitheatre - Universal City, CA
full gig writeup
NO-930829 Reading Festival - England
correction by Tracey Spivey
additions
NO-840823 Cornwall Coliseum - St. Austell, England
full gig writeup
NO-850820 Henry Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland CA
full gig writeup
NO-850911 Playhouse Theatre, Edinburgh, Scotland
additional notes/corrections
NO-851217 Manhattan Club - Brussels, Belgium
full gig writeup
NO-881125 Gigantinho Gym - Porto Alegre, Brazil
link to setlist
NO-020615 Hultsfred Festival - Hultsfred, Sweden
writeup of some more tracks
Track name underlining complete through 8/85.
writeup
NO-850523 Logan Cambell Centre - Auckland New Zealand
gig writeup (entry for soundcheck already)
NO-850811 Fox Theatre - Atlanta Georgia
positive identification
NO-861004 Town And Country Club - London
writeup
NO-820417 Le Palace, Paris
figuring out what song in the set IALP was
NO-830424 Rosehill Hotel - Kilkenny, Ireland (Eire)
updating information regarding date and IALP sequencing
NO-840707 Studio 54 - Barcelona, Spain
full writeup of gig
NO-851206 Central Polytechnic - London
full writeup of gig and soundcheck
NO-851207 Fulcrum - Slough, England
full writeup of gig
NO-881228 Gigantinho Gym - Porto Alegre, Brazil
writeup
additions
NO-840604 Palais - Nottingham, England
writeup
NO-850809 Warner Theatre - Washington DC
additions
writeup for soundcheck
NO-850205 Caley Palais - Edinburgh, Scotland
writeup
additional notes
NO-811118 The Ritz - NYC
writeup
NO-840517 Paradiso Amsterdam Netherlands
additions
writeup
writeup
note indicating swapped dates with 821206.
NO-850426 Canton (club) - Hong Kong
note by Al Jarvis
NO-850811 Atlanta, Georgia
writeup - DATE UNCERTAIN
NO-860327 Apollo Theatre, Oxford
correction
NO-890630 Poplar Creek Music Theater - Hoffman Estates, Illinois (Chicago)
writeup of additional track
NO-020120 Gold Coast Parklands - Gold Coast, Australia
correction
NO-020123 Hordern Pavillion - Sydney, Australia
writeup of JD tracks
NO-020526 Le Zenith - Paris, France
writeup of JD tracks
NO-020609 Finsbury Park Festival - London, England
corrections
NO-020615 Hultsfred Festival - Hultsfred, Sweden
writeup of JD track
NO-020629 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
writeup of JD tracks
NO-020713 Old Trafford Cricket Ground - Manchester, England
writeup of JD tracks
writeup
corrections
NO-840810 Marbella Moniciple - Marbella, Spain
writeup of 5 songs broadcast over FM
NO-850809 Washington, D.C.
additions/corrections
NO-861006 Royal Albert Hall - London
writeup
NO-930721 Starplex Amphitheatre - Dallas, Texas
added comment by Tracey Spivey
NO-011112 Olympia - Paris
additions
NO-011118 Cirkus - Stockholm, Sweden
additions
NO-820604 Provinssirock Festival - Seinajoki, Finland
note
NO-850820 Henry Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland, California
entry moved from NO-850819
NO-820622 Rollingstone - Milan, Italy
writeup of EGG
NO-830126 The Hacienda - Manchester, England
writeup of YSF from Fac 71
NO-830629 1st Avenue - Minneapolis, Minnesota
writeup of complete performance
NO-980716 Apollo Theatre - Manchester, England
additions
NO-830422 Savoy - Cork, Ireland
additions/corrections
NO-830509 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
additional comment
NO-830627 The Commodore - Vancouver, Canada
corrections and inclusions into Barney Says
NO-840517 Paradiso Amsterdam Netherlands
additional comment
NO-840701 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
writeup of LWTUA
NO-850805 Agora Theatre - Akron, Ohio
correction to tracklisting
NO-850809 Warner Theatre - Washington D.C.
correction from Reg
NO-850811 Atlanta, Georgia
moved NO-850805 tracklisting here for the time being
NO-851110 Hammersmith Palais London
correction
NO-851217 Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB) - Brussels, Belgium
transcription of Atmosphere
NO-860124 Sir Francis Xavier - Dublin, Ireland
addition
NO-860719 Manchester Exhibition Center (GMEX)
transcription of Ceremony
NO-870213 Enmore Theatre - Sydney, Australia
submission by James Thomas
NO-870216 Thebarton Theatre - Adelaide Australia
correction to Ceremony
NO-870402 Woolwich Coronet - Woolwich, England
transcription of Ceremony
NO-870404 The Academy - Brixton, England
transcription of Ceremony
NO-870904 Darien Lakes Amusement Park - Buffalo, New York
corrections and transcription of Do The Ostrich
NO-870919 Greek Theatre - Berkeley, CA
slight correction
NO-850614 The Pink, Punk, Pimms event - New Hall College, Cambridge
addition
NO-890415 Southern Star Amphitheatre - Atlanta, Georgia
partial transcription
NO-890427 Universal Amphitheatre - Universal City, CA
amendations
NO-890702 Montreux Jazz Festival - Montreux, Switzerland
addition
NO-890712 Jones Beach - New York, New York
transcription for Loveless
NO-930829 Reading Festival - England
correction
NO-980716 Apollo Theatre - Manchester, England
correction
NO-830619 Nightlife - Austin, Texas
transcription
NO-840707 Studio 54 - Barcelona, Spain
information on encore tracks
NO-801025 The Squat - Manchester
transcription
NO-840517 Paradiso - Amsterdam, Netherlands
transcription of Decades and LWTUA
NO-860826 Guildhall - Portsmouth, England
additions
NO-890415 Southern Star Amphitheatre - Atlanta, Georgia
transcription of Loveless
NO-890416 Saenger Theatre - New Orleans, Louisiana
transcription of Face Up
NO-890427 Universal Amphitheatre - Universal City, CA
transcription
NO-890428 Universal Amphitheatre - Universal City, CA
transcription of YSF
NO-010803 Gorge Amphitheater - Gorge (Seattle) WA Area One
correction
Fixed entry titles to be consistent
Introductory work to split nogigs.html by year
NO-840815 The Mayfair Suite - Sunderland
transcription - part one
NO-930829 Reading Festival - England
various additions and corrections
NO-831208 Union Hall, Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
writeup for Blue Monday
NO-840319 Caesar's Palace - Bradford
correction to Face Up lyric, credit to 'KnownPleasures' from NOOL forums
NO-850812 McAlister Auditorium - New Orleans, Louisiana
writeup
NO-011010 Brixton Academy
writup of last three songs
The terminal1 links now work again, via http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk
various dates
the gleanings of consistent date header listings
obfuscated full email addresses, to mitigate spam harvesting
NO-850801 Felt Forum - New York City
completed writeup
NO-851203 The Hacienda - Manchester (both gigs)
completed writeup + started Barney Says/Hook LIne feature
NO-870204 The Galaxy - Auckland, New Zealand
corrections
NO-870206 Surfer's Paradise - Gold Coast, Australia
corrections
NO-870207 The Roxy - Brisbane, Australia
corrections and additions
NO-870214 Selina's - Sydney, Australia
corrections
NO-870216 Thebarton Theatre - Adelaide, Australia
completed writeup
NO-870217 The Venue - Melbourne, Australia
corrections and additions (Barney Says)
NO-870218 Festival Hall - Melbourne, Australia
writeup
NO-870220 Canterbury Court - Perth Australia
corrections and additions
NO-870221 Red Parrot - Perth Australia
corrections
NO-870214 Selina's - Sydney, Australia
writeup + setlist
NO-830720 Hacienda, Manchester
slight corrections, additions
NO-020615 Hultsfred Festival - Hultsfred, Sweden
writeup for YSF
NO-840819 Leisure Centre - Gloucester, England
hooky's wrong string intro
NO-870220 Canterbury Court Perth Australia
writeup + setlist
NO-870221 Red Parrot - Perth Australia
amendations and additional comments
NO-980716 Apollo Theatre - Manchester England
NO-981231 Alexandria Palace "Ally Pally" - London England
NO-010718 Olympia Theatre Liverpool
note that these appeared in 511 DVD
NO-011012 Brixton Academy
Alan Wise intro
NO-020609 Finsbury Park Festival - London, England
writeup
NO-870204 The Galaxy - Auckland, New Zealand
NO-870206 Bombay Rocks Surfer's Paradise, Gold Coast, Australia
NO-870207 The Roxy (Generator) - Brisbane, Australia
identified backing music plus various other information from Deron Pease and GaoBest, including transposing the 870206 and 870207 locations
NO-870207 The Generator - Gold Coast, Australia
setlist + writeup
NO-870202 Town Hall - Wellington, New Zealand
setlist cribbed from neworderonline
NO-870204 The Galaxy - Auckland, New Zealand
additional comment added
NO-870206 Surfer's Paradise - Brisbane, Australia
setlist + writeup + lyrics for 'Do The Ostrich'
NO-870204 The Galaxy - Auckland, New Zealand
writeup
NO-800729 Beach Club - Manchester, England
email to faclist by markbursa
NO-840825 Radio 1 "Saturday Live" (was listed as NO-840824)
Addition by Aaron Gerritz
NO-980716 Apollo Theatre - Manchester England
Minor correction sent in by Mauricio Fernandes Garcia
NO-821127 The Seaview Ballroom - Melbourne, Australia
GaoBest description of videos
NO-851217 Manhatten Club - Leuven, Belgium
GaoBest information
NO-850501 Koseinenkin Kaikan Hall - Tokyo, Japan
writeup for entire show
NO-851206 Central Polytechnic - London, England
minor correction
NO-840825 Radio 1 "Saturday Live" (was listed as NO-840824)
added writeup for Temptation and BBC announcer outro
NO-020526 Le Zenith - Paris, France
writeup for 'Brutal', SLC, and 'Digital'
NO-020126 RAS Showgrounds - Sydney, Australia
writeup for 'Love Vigilantes'
NO-851206 Central Polytechnic - London, England
expanded writeup, and corrections on existing content
NO-851207 Fulcrum - Slough England
corrections
NO-020120 Gold Coast Parklands - Gold Coast, Australia
full gig writeup (update from 1.48.3--11/26/02)
NO-020123 Hodern Pavilion - Sydney, Australia
notes about Isolation
NO-840825 Radio 1 "Saturday Live" (was listed as NO-840824)
corrected date as well as some minor edits of content
NO-840517 Paradiso Amsterdam Netherlands
correction sent in by David Fox
NO-020123 Hodern Pavilion - Sydney, Australia
NME review excerpts
NO-821214 Old Melbourne Hotel, Perth
more GaoBest notes
Replaced "transcription" with the better term "writeup"
NO-870217 The Venue - Melbourne
writeup - partially completed
NO-871208 Mutualite, Paris
note that this was the last perf of 586
NO-011112 Olympia, Paris
writeup of a couple of songs
NO-860910 Mayfair - Newcastle, England
recollection
NO-870630 Reading University - Reading, England
recollection
NO-890325 Glasgow S.E.C.C. 'SECCstasy' - Glasgow, Scotland
writeup
NO-011007 Barrowlands Glasgow
GaoBest comment
NO-011112 Olympia - Paris France
comment added
NO-830424 Rosehill Hotel, Kilkenny, Ireland (Eire)
note about performance date
NO-830424 Rosehill Hotel, Kilkenny, Ireland (Eire)
writeup...this was probably the broadcast date
NO-840823 Cornwall Coliseum - St. Austell, England
writeup of soundcheck
NO-851108 Pavilion - Hemel Hempstead England
writeup of s/c and first song
NO-870221 Red Parrot Perth
added link to audio
NO-821208 Union Hall, Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
GaoBest description of reel-to-reel->DAT
NO-830424 Rosehill Hotel, Kilkenny, Ireland (Eire)
GaoBest description of FM broadcast
NO-011019 Later With Jools Holland
writeup
NO-011116 E-Werk - Cologne, Germany
webcast writeup
NO-011115 Columbiahalle - Berlin, Germany
update regarding Barney football comments
NO-011118 Cirkus - Stockholm, Sweden
another review
NO-860911 Playhouse Theatre, Edinburgh, Scotland
writeup
NO-011112 Olympia - Paris France
update from "Sabine's Lover"
NO-011116 E-Werk - Cologne, Germany
webcast of this gig to be available soon
NO-011118 Cirkus - Stockholm, Sweden
review
NO-011115 Columbiahalle - Berlin, Germany
Nicholas LeBlanc gives setlist
NO-811119 Ukranian National Home - NYC
review - this one will get more lavish treatment later
NO-861212 Fox Theatre - Atlanta GA
review by Kevin Martin (Ceremony archives)
NO-890629 Marcus Amphitheater - Milwaukee, Wisconsin
info about gig from Hooky
NO-890707 CNE Grandstand - Toronto, Ontario
setlist + review
NO-890710 Great Woods, Mansfield, MA
reviews by "mike" and Daniel.F.McKinnon.III culled from old Ceremony archives
NO-011112 Olympia - Paris, France
comments by "N21"
NO-851210 El Dorado, Paris
correction, Barney not speaking French
version 1.30.2 11/11/01 (change in webserver host)
NO-011111 Olympia - Paris, France
setlist + comments by "N21"
NO-851212 Exo 7 - Rouen, France
slight addition
NO-830720 Hacienda - Manchester
writeup (to add on what I had already)
NO-851217 Manhatten Club - Leuven, Belgium
corrected from NO-871231
NO-870208 Paris La Mutualite - Paris, France
corrected from NO-871209
NO-890614 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA
writeup
NO-930731 Kingswood Amphitheatre - Toronto, Canada
corrected from NO-930721
NO-010803 Gorge Amphitheatre Seattle CA
writeup
NO-010811 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne Germany
writeup of 3 additional songs
NO-830414 Tiffany's - Glasgow, Scotland
writeup for the three songs I have
NO-861204 Philadelphia PA
writeup
NO-890421 Astroworld - Houston, Texas
recollection from anthonymiles
NO-820408 Glazenzaal - Rotterdam, Netherlands
recollection from vinz
NO-840517 Paradiso Amsterdam Netherlands
recollection from vinz
NO-851215 Arena - Rotterdam, Netherlands
recollection from vinz
NO-890715 Merriweather Post Pavilion -- Columbia, Maryland
WBL confirms listing of a performance not listed in the
gigography
NO-830708 Ontario Theatre - Washington D.C.
WBL provides summary of review
NO-850809 Warner Theatre - Washington D.C.
WBL provides summary of review
NO-861208 Constiutional Centre - Washington D.C.
WBL provides summary of review
NO-010718 Olympia Theatre - Liverpool
confirmed existence of 40 track ADAT from Roger Lyons
NO-011119 Later With Jools Holland
tracklist/desc from spiky
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA Area One
one more comment from Al Jarvis
NO-011012 Brixton Academy
setlist; comments
NO-870209 Byron Bay Arts Centre - Byron Bay, Australia
soundcheck tracklist from GaoBest
NO-930703 Roskilde Festival - Denmark
writeup
NO-010805 Glen Helen Blockbuster Pavilion - Devore (Los Angeles), CA
writeup
NO-011010 Brixton Academy
more comments (too many?)
NO-011011 Brixton Academy
setlist; comments
NO-981231 Alexandrea Palace (Ally Pally) London, England
writeup
NO-010728 Fuji Rock Festival Japan
writeup (finally finished)
NO-011007 Barrowlands Glasgow Scotland
setlist; report from Damon Pease
NO-011008 Barrowlands Glasgow Scotland
setlist; report from Jonathan Scott and Damon Pease
NO-011010 Brixton Academy
setlist; report from various souls
NO-850819 Henry Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland CA
comment from GaoBest (he says this was 9/20/85)
NO-870216 Thebarton Theatre - Adelaide, Australia
comment from GaoBest
NO-820524 Pennies Norwich
clarification of previous information
NO-820621 Palasport Bologna, Italy
notes
NO-820919 Sporting Arena Athens, Greece
notes
NO-870220 Canterbury Court - Perth Australia
list of songs played as encores
NO-011007 Barrowlands Glasgow Scotland
report from Jonathan Scott
NO-011007 Barrowlands Glasgow Scotland
report from Colin Kerr
NO-010811 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne Germany
writeup of 60MPH...more to follow
NO-861013 This entry spurious...removed. In its place:
NO-860719 Manchester GMEX
writeup
NO-870209 Byron Bay Arts Centre - Byron Bay, Australia
writeup
NO-011004 Apollo Theatre - Manchester, England
Jonathan Scott sends in setlist...via wireless, plus interesting comments
NO-850128 Michael Sobell Sports Centre - Finsbury Park, London
writeup
NO-850809 Warner Theatre - Washington D.C.
addition from W.B. Lyttle
NO-851211 Salle Villar, Maison De La Culture Rennes France
minor correction
NO-930828 Reading Festival - England
comment by Kevin Maidment
NO-010924 in studio (steve & gillian's farm?)
Transmission
NO-850128 Finsbury Park London
notes; removed spurious NO-860128 listing and merged
it here
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA Area One
Information regarding tapers
NO-810620 Glastonbury CND
writeup
NO-850206 Barrowlands, Glasgow, Scotland
correction
NO-860128 London (unknown venue)
*spurious entry, removed* - really NO-860125 see
1.10.2 update
NO-861013 Hacienda Manchester
different setlist than in gigography - multiple sets
that night?
NO-851206 Central Polytechnic - London, England
addition
NO-010802 Thunderbird Stadium - Vancouver, BC
writeup of gig
NO-850523 Logan Cambell Centre - Auckland New Zealand
soundcheck details (GaoBest)
NO-840826 Guildhall, Portsmouth England
writeup + lyrics to early version of 'Face Up'
NO-031202 Town Hall Bournemouth
additional notes based on listening to different tape
NO-850523 Logan Cambell Centre - Auckland New Zealand
mention of a soundcheck (GaoBest)
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA Area One
corrections/updates
NO-861205 1018 Club NYC
writeup of gig
NO-890405 Q.E. Theatre Vancouver
setlist from GaoBest (missing from gigography)
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA Area One
writeup of gig and later corrections
NO-010811 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne Germany
added Times review
writeup of other songs
NO-890325 Glasgow S.E.C.C. "SECCstasy' - Glasgow Scotland
comment by GaoBest
NO-840707 Studio 54 - Barcelona, Spain
videotape of 4 songs from that performance
gig not listed in Waterrat's listing
comment by GaoBest
NO-870213 Enmore Theatre - Sydney Australia
comment by GaoBest
comment by Steve Waller in reply to Jonathan Scott
comment by GaoBest
NO-981231 Alexandria Palace "Ally Pally" - London England
added Al Jarvis comment
writeup for 'Turn My Way'
version 0.98.4 08/15/01
NO-870825 Pier 84 - New York
correction sent in by J.W. Anthony
NO-010728 Fuji Rock Festival Japan
more work on writeup
NO-010811 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne
another review - corrected assigned date
recollections from Ceremony list
NO-010811 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne
review (no setlist given...yet)
reviews, setlist, etc.
NO-010805 Glen Helen Blockbuster Pavilion - Devore (Los Angeles), CA
reviews, setlist, etc.
writeup (not complete)
NO-010731 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA Area One
reviews, etc.
reviews, setlist, etc.
correction from Jeff Black (Crombsol->Crumpsall)
NO-980716 Manchester Apollo
correction from Brett
NO-810519 Roxy Stockholm Sweden
writeup + lyrics for EGG
NO-840826 Guildhall, Portsmouth, England
Kevin Maidment adds commentary
NO-810507 Tabernacle - London, England
writeup
NO-830323 State Ballroom - Liverpool
some more notes added
NO-830509 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
some more notes added
NO-840319 Caesar's Palace - Bradford
some more notes added
NO-821214 Old Melbourne Hotel Perth
Norman Peters adds commentary
rescued these from the 'in progress' file.
NO-860822 Goldiggers - Chippenham, England
NO-861124 Congress Centre, Ottawa
NO-840408 Berlin Metropol - writeup notes added to overview
NO-930829 Reading Festival - England - writeup
NO-850517 Powerhouse - Melbourne - writeup
NO-851022 Preston GuildHall - writeup
NO-830707 Paradise Garage NYC
More anecdotes from that gig
NO-870221 Added more details based on relistening of Perth tape
NO-870619 Clarification sent in by a reader
I really need to pursue listening to more of my tapes, not much time these days, alas
NO-830624 Echo Beach San Francisco, CA
Comment from ajwells@ix.netcom.com
NO-840822 Goldiggers - Chippenham, England
Comment from sundry folks re gigs at
NO-840408 Added George Saunders' comments re performance from
his website
NO-840824 Added a comment posted on Ceremony mailing list
NO-850131 Cultuurcafe VUB Brussels Belgium
spurious entry, really should be NO-851217, fixed
Added/Fixed:
NO-870919 Greek Theatre - Berkeley CA (the one with Anarchy In the UK!)
NO-870905 Pittsburgh Civic Center (got accidentally deleted, resotred)
Added/Updated:
NO-810527 SO36 Club - Berlin Germany (video)
NO-821214 Old Melbourne Hotel Perth
NO-830225 Kollinngsborg Stockholm Sweden
NO-830415 Orient Cinema - Ayr, Scotland
NO-850131 Cultuurcafe VUB Brussels Belgium
NO-850409 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham England
NO-850808 Warner Theatre Washington DC incorrect date
NO-850809 Warner Theatre Washington DC correct date
NO-851110 updated with addition of all remaining tracks
NO-851203 Hacienda - Manchester, England (First Set)
NO-851211 Salle Villar, Maison De La Culture Rennes France
NO-860816 Valby Copenhagen Denmark (previously unlisted in nogig)
NO-870826 Pier 84 - New York New York
NO-870904 Darien Lakes Amusement Park - Buffalo New York
NO-810327 updated slightly (have another tape copy of performance
NO-820911 updated, have another copy of this performance taped
NO-830312 updated with full listing of quotes
NO-851110 updated with addition of two tracks
NO-860912 Colin Kerr comment regarding "Edinburgh vs. Glasgow"
Added:
NO-840517
Paradiso Amsterdam Netherlands partial gig detail
NO-851110
Hammersmith Palais London partial gig detail
NO-851207
Fulcrum - Slough England partial gig detail
NO-870402
Woolwich Coronet - Woolwich England partial gig detal
updated entries for NO-830312 NO-830720 NO-831201 NO-851206
marked NO-830801 as spurious
added comment for NO-890325 from a note made by a reader
Fixed a bug with my html processing script involving incorrect indexing.
Added:
NO-820911
Futurama Four, Deeside Leisure Centre, Queensferry, North Wales
Added my own description to what was written already
NO-870825
Pier 84 - New York gig detail
Newly Added:
NO-831202
Town Hall Bournemouth gig detail
NO-861025
University of London Union gig detail
NO-860127
Queens University gig detail
NO-870619
C.N.D. Festival - Glastonbury England gig detail
NO-881217
Mancher Exhibition Center (G-MEX) Manchester
Link to Melody Maker article
Found an error where NO-861224 should have instead been listed as NO-860124. Fixed. Updated NO-830707 slightly.
Added:
NO-820911
Futurama Four, Deeside Leisure Centre, Queensferry, North Wales
Description from Ceremony site
NO-830312
Recreation Centre - Kingston-Upon-Thames Tolworth England
Description from Ceremony site
NO-830422
Savoy - Cork, Ireland gig detail
NO-830627
The Commodore - Vancouver Canada gig detail
NO-830720
Hacienda, Manchester Description from Ceremony site
NO-840331
Haus Nied - Frankfurt, Germany gig detail
NO-850520
Easts Leagues Club, Brisbane Australia gig detail
NO-851206
Central Polytechnic - London, England Description from Ceremony site
NO-870915
Compton Terrace Phoenix Arizona Description from Ceremony site
NOTE: listing needs to be added to Gigography
NO-930702
Montreux Jazz Festival - Montreux Switzerland
Video MPEG description
Added:
NO-851212
Exo 7 - Rouen, France gig detail
NO-861202
Syria Mosque, Pittsburgh Pennsylvania gig detail
NO-870130
Festival Hall, Nagoya, Japan gig detail
NO-870211
Dee Why Hotel - Sydney, Australia tape descpiption
NO-930731
Kingswood Amphitheatre - Toronto gig detail
Added:
NO-810506
Forum Ballroom - Kentish Town, link to interview page and gig report
NO-840824
Radio 1 "Saturday Live" description (mine) plus link to Sounds article
NO-850720
WOMAD Festival - Interview talking about review of gig played there
NO-851203
Hacienda, Manchster - link to interview page also discussing gig
NO-861208
Consitutional Center Washington D.C. - gig detail
NO-980716
Apollo Theatre Manchester - link to fan reviews
NO-980830
Reading Festival England - link to fan reviews
NO-981229
Manchester Evening News Arena - link to fan reviews
NO-981231
Alexandria Palace "Ally Pally" London - link to fan reviews and article reviews
Updated this section (self-recursive action)
Also added some description of what was played in Brixton 831201. Still need to transcribe the gig, which I have at least in MP3.
Added:
NO-810209
Heaven Ultradisco London - link to live review
NO-811119
Ukranian National Home New York - link to live review
NO-820122
North London Polytechnic London - link to live review
NO-820525
Kilburn National Ballroom London - link to live review
NO-830126
The Hacienda Manchester - link to live review
NO-830129
Great Hall, Joint Student Union - Cardiff *soundcheck* It's about
85 minutes. You don't have this listed :-)
NO-830311
The Ace - Brixton England - link to live review
NO-830707
Paradise Garage New York - Still has my gig detail, but I've
also included a link to the live review
NO-830708
Ontario Theatre - Washington D.C. - link to live review
NO-831201
The Academy Brixton England - link to live review
NO-860327
Apollo Oxford England - Still has my gig detail, but I've also
included a link to the live review
Various corrections on other listings.
Initial version put together from reports emailed to waterrat@cwix.com.
Setlist:
'Atmosphere'
'Slow Jam'
'Crystal'
'Regret'
'Love Vigilantes'
'Isolation'
'Your Silent Face'
'Turn My Way'
'Close Range'
'Touched By The Hand Of God'
'Bizarre Love Triangle'
'True Faith (94 version)'
'Temptation'
'Love Will Tear Us Apart'
Encore:
'Ruined In A Day'
'60 Miles Per Hour'
'Blue Monday
Reviews:
(my parsing program breaks on the commas in the first and fourth links, you'll have to cut n' paste by hand)
http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,36784,00.html
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1253344353/pagename=/RP/ALLSTAR/article.html/fid=279005
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=84251
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,62-2001250099,00.html
Tidbit from Roger Lyons from Lionrock, who is responsible for the live programming on New Order's current tour:
...even as I am writing this I am importing a New Order Gig (Liverpool 2001) from 40 track ADATs and I would like to do a surround mix of this in Nuendo.
From Ceremony@monkey.edu:
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:43:06 +0100
From: "Dave Stephenson"
Subject: (Fac33) Erm, some sort of NewOrder gig
Ow.
I'm in pain cos I've just been crushed at the front of the best NewOrder gig I have seen. OK, so the only ones I've seen are Reading 98 and Ally Pally before this one but OH MY GOD!
Opened with Atmosphere as a tribute to Rob Gretton and Hooky's Mum, then went on through a bevy of new and old tracks including Every Little Counts, Love Vigilantes, Crystal, Blauer Montag (of course), 60MPH and more which I can't be arsed to write out but I'm sure the set list will i appear somewhere soon.
Corgan didn't piss me off. He didn't say a thing all night and was only really audible on Turn My Way, Ruined in a Day and Blauer Montag - and even then his vocals were only apparent on Turn My Way, his guitar on Ruined in a Day and Blauer Montag.
Hooky was fucking loving it as usual, walking head down into Corgan, winding Barney up and stomping around the stage. Barney even looked as if he was enjoying himself too.
The new album sounds VERY good live. Not sure about Turn My Way or Slow Jam but Crystal and 60MPH just rock. It's gonna be a good one.
People of note spotted at the front include Andy Robinson and that roadie who looks like Arthur Baker and appears in The Perfect Kiss video.
The Olympia was a fantastic venue too - nice and small. But we won't even mention the, erm, After Show Party. Oh dear.
I think Barney summed it all up best when he said - "Woooo!"
@ Happy Jack
Transcription(s):
From 192mbps mp3 of DAT apparently recorded backstage...which was missing the Alan Wise intro, which I have on another version of this show (very likely the same source, confusingly enough).
_Intro_
AW: "Now I know the band's been away, they've been a way a long time, and I don't know [this Allannah?]. Let's face it, they've been surpassed by better talents like the Spice Girls. Yes, so I took a look around, and then I thought, 'Why don't we get rid of all the blokes in the band and have an all-girl band. That's a bit better, innit? By the way, hello to Mrs. Smith, lemme see... John Smith, Dave Smith, and the wankers from Hollywood or something. Right, I want you to welcome now then, the new all-girl band from Manchester, the ladies of the JOY DIVISION."
Loud cheers and cries for New Order. The MP3 recording starts after Bernard greets the audience.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Hello. Feels like we've never been away. Please welcome...Billy Corgan...and Phil Cunningham, our new guitarist for tonight. Hope you're gonna enjoy what we're gonna do...cuz we certainly are. Let's have a great time! [hooky chuckles] Here we go."
PH: "Just a sober moment, this is for all the people that can't be here, this for Becky, Rob Gretton, and my mother, God bless them all!"
Barney whoops a few times during this song. He stopped doing this after the backlash against his overexuberance at what is supposed to be a dirgeful ballad.
BS: "Thank you. Thanks a lot!"
_Slow___Jam_
BS: "Okay, this is a song off our new album, which is called Get Ready, and the song's called Slow Jam, hope you like it!"
Audience member yells out something "sure we will..."
BS: "So listen carefully..."
This version is faster and more guitar-based, and missing the synth squiggle. Mix has Barney's vocals move from right to center and back again...don't know if the taper was moving during the first verse.
Some wah-wah guitar near the end. And Hooky can clearly be heard doing the ending chorus.
BS: "Thank you, you're very patient..."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, this is another new one. but you have to be patient cuz we're gonna play a lot of songs for you tonight. We're gonna play for a whole hour and a...hour and a half, which by our standards is a very long time. [guitar chord]. And by the end of the set, by your standards it'll be a very long time as well."
Piano into for Crystal starts.
BS: "This is Crystal, our new single. You've not heard it yet?"
Somebody yells "Hooooookkkkky!" at least twice.
Drum backing seems to be a bit different, vocals are low in the mix and a bit off. Plenty of whoops, though. "You shock me to the core, ooh, yeah!"
BS: "'ak you." [guitar/bass strum] "Oh, it wasn't bad, wasn't it, was it all right?. All right, now we're playing...after we bored you with those new songs, we're gonna play something you know now. "That's how we know it as well."
_Regret_
BS: "Jeremy, make sure I hear the click, please."
Volume levels go up and sound is clearer...
BS: "Woo! Thank you!"
Audience starts chanting "New Order, New Order, New Order!"
_Love___Vigilantes_
PH: "This one is for your dad. Prin(?) God bless..."
punter: "Go on 'ooky lad, go on 'ooky!"
Somebody actually calls out for Transmission...
Barney can be heard quietly testing out his melodica playing!
BS: "Excuse my rather large embarrassing melodica.. I have got a small one, but it's not the size that counts, is it? Okay, this is Love Vigiantes."
Song plays. Good version.
BS: "Woo!
_Isolation_
BS: "It's a bit hot, innit it? [heavy guitar riffing and feedback]
Audience member calls out "Hooky!"
PH: "Yes...was there something?"
BS: "Okay, we're gonna reach back into the annals of history now. This
is sung by Joy Division, it's called Isolation."
BS: "'ak You"...song closes out.
_Your___Silent___Face_
PH: "No...do I wanna know how big and how fucking ugly you are? NO."
BS: "This is another one that features my instrumental prowess on the
melodica. I learned it at school. Very interessting fact. Ok."
Song starts.
BS: "We're playing all our old favorites tonight. Jump up and dance
to 'em."
Hooky, et al. help with the "Why don't you PISS OFF!".
(at the end)
BS: "Thank you. I've always liked that song..."
[note: some versions have KW1 and Turn My Way transposed]
_Turn___My___Way_
BS: "Okay, I'm afraid we're got time to inflict you with some of our
new songs. This is called 'Turn My Way'." Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, hang
on...boys, hang on...featuring Billy on vocals, well done..."
(audience members cry out "Billy Corgan on vocals!", which is to whom
Barney address "well done to", as well as a "c'mon Barney, lad")
PH: "He's very shy."
BC: "All right guys..."
A portion of the performance of Turn My Way made it into the 511 DVD,
very cool. Sounds like a tape edit at the end, odd considering this
is the 21st century and this was supposedly a DAT recording..
BS: "Thank you."
_Close___Range_
Edit in the tape. Nice drum intro.
The mp3 version cuts off at 4:07.
BS: "Thank you, that reminds me of when I used to be a punk."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Oh my, it's hot. Especially down here. Touched By The Hand Of
God."
Hooky sings one of the "It belongs to you" refrains. Also some wah-wah
guitar in the earlier part.
BS: "'ak you."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
PH: "This one is for your hopeless romantics..."
BS: (at the same time as Hooky) "Do you know how...do you know how
fucking hot it is up here?"
Audience member cries out "How hot?" (presumably the guy that's been
heckling throughout)
BS: "I tell you, it's hotter up here than it is down there. [mumble]
You'll find out cuz you're gonna be on this fucking stage at the
end of the show. Okay, here we go."
(after)
BS: "Thank you. Woo!"
_True___Faith_
More "New Order!" chants.
BS: "Thank you. Having a good time? Not supposed to happen at our gigs,
yer out of order!"
The opening bass sounds absolutely massive.
BS: "'k you! Wonder where that came from? I see you all getting into it
a little bit now..."
_Temptation_
BC: "Um..."
PH: "You'll have to scream a little louder."
BS: "Whoo. Oh yeah, this is Temptation."
You know the audience is singing along...and this is a "last fucking
time" version too.
BS: "Whoo...thank you...wicked, man. Ok, Hooky, you were standing on the
the bloody half of the stage as well..."
Tape fades...then the last sentence above is repeated.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Hey, he gets all [hot] that I'm enjoying meself. Still a miserable
twat, isn't he? (think he's talking about Bernard, not Corgan!)
"Come over here."
BS: "How about we all get started tonight...Billy."
Hooky yells out "C'mon!!" during the second chorus.
BS: "Thank you.
Bass feedback at the end.
Encore
_Ruined___In___A___Day_
BS: "Sorry but Hooky had to put some Savlon on his ass. Only joking!
We've enjoyed this so much we'd play the whole set again for you..."
PH: "...But you've gotta pay again, so c'mon."
BS: "One two one two..."
Audience member (sounds like Alex!) calls out "Hooky, 60 Miles An Hour".
Somebody else says something, it's that presumably what Hooky is responding
to.
PH: "No, it's about 120 at the moment, how's yours?"
BS: "Okay, let's go."
They play a nice version.
BS" "'ak you."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
PH: "Ehh, this one is for my daughter Heather, it's here first day of
work today, she did very well."
BS: "Ok, this is 60 Miles An Hour."
Which they go ahead and perform...ends in a howl of feedback and wah-wah.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Eh, thank you. Okay, this really is our last song. I wanna
see if you can guess what we're gonna play. Someone said Blue Monday.
Yes, you're right. See me after, and I'll give you a prize."
(Heh, that was classic)
BS: "Actually, it's called FUCKING Blue Monday now cuz I'm FUCKING
sick of it. Only joking."
Hooky exclaims during the bridge "must be me!" Corgan's guitar can
be very faintly heard throughout.
Song ends in bass feedback and a synth wash.
PH: "Good night every-body!"
And that's it.
Penis references, slaging off Blue Monday, audience putdowns, they've still
got it, folks!
Transcription of streaming webcast...the video's not very watchable,
and the audio is muddy and monaural, given low encoding bitrate
(24kbps for the music). Still, way better than nothing.
Needless to say, the transcription of this one was particularly
difficult. Hopefully, I can get my hands on a higher quality
version at some point in the future.
Assuming the webcast aired the performance in sequence, the song order
was the following (giving the song titles as listed):
Atmosphere
(encore)
Ruined In A Day
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. It's been a long time coming. Let's
hope it's worth it. Please welcome, our guest guitarist, Billy Corgan!
And our new guitarist... Phil the man axe man."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "And...we're gonna start off with a Joy Division song. It's
called Atmosphere"
PH: "For all the girls at East/West, thank you."
The synth has a interesting shimmering effect. Annoyingly, Bernard
whoops a couple of times, although this was more pronounced at the
Shoreline performance (31 Jul 01) than here.
Song finishes...
BS: (Whoop!) Thank you. Thank you. Great to be back in Japan after
all this time. Jerry, can't hear the top of the kit too well, and can
you turn the gate up on my earphones."
The webcast differs from the setlist in that Slow Jam doesn't appear
here but later on, after KW1.
_Crystal_
BS: "All right, from the very old to very new, here's our latest single,
called Crystal."
They play the 6+ minute extended version rather than the more abbreviated
version played at the West Coast gigs.
BS: "Thank you, thanks a lot."
_Regret_
BS: "That was all right, wasn't it. It wasn't shit, anyway?
And, er, from very old to very new, to just a little bit old,
this song's called Regret.
BS: "Make...[can't understand this part]...the quick."
The end of this song gets flubbed somewhat.
BS: "Eh, hank you. Come to think of it, that's not a bad song either."
_Love___Vigilantes_
Melodica playing, f
BS: "Okay, we right, we right, yeah..."
PH: "You all set, Billy..."
BS: "Billy-o!"
PH: "He's nervous tonight, he's not played in front of big crowds often,
so you have to forgive him."
BS: "Okay, let's go"
Song ends with bass feedback, as Bernard 10q's.
_Isolation_
BS: "Okay, this is a Joy Division song, it's called Isolation"
The song is performed.
BS: "Thank you. Domo Arigato!"
BS: "Ok ok, having a good time? We're having a fucking great time here in
Japan, it's a great country. Who said that flattery will get you nowhere?
Me."
Hooky says something off-mic.
_Your___Silent___Face_ (labelled KW1, naturally, on the setlist)
BS: "Okay, this is your Silent Face, get the DJ to turn the fucking music
down over there, you twat."
Bernard busts out with the melodica! I personally welcome the
return of this song to their live set.
And it looks like somebody turns down the vocals on Barney when he
says "piss". (part of the 'Why don't you piss off?' lyric). The audience
recording is of course unimpeded.
_Slow___Jam_
BS: "All right, we're gonna play a song...okay, this is a song off our new
album called Slow Jam."
Nice feedback at the end.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Turn___My___Way_
BS: "Okay, this song..next song features Billy. This song features Billy on
vocals, and is off our new album, called, eh... what's the new album called,
Hooky?"
PH: "Get Ready..heh heh."
BC: "Get Ready..yeah"
[some trading of 'Get Ready's passes between the band members]
BS: "Get ready, get ready, yeah. And it's 'Turn My Way'!"
(at end)
BS: "'ak yew"
PH: "The boy done good!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna now play something that you all know and love...hopefully
love. It's called Bizarre Love Triangle."
After the first verse, Hooky yells out "C'mon cheer for Phil!"
_Close___Range_
BS: "Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa...I'm wrong again, I'm wrong again...
uh...fuckin' hell. ...it takes you out here. When you get to our age..."
PH: "Fuck off..."
BS: "Alright, this is another one off our new album, but you're sick of hearing
these new songs you've never heard before... one day believe you me, you will come
to love them...it's called Close Range, take that fucking capo off now."
I like this one quite a bit.
BS: "Thank you, thank you. Yes, Roger, I didn't notice that was the wrong one."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Okay, the next one is called Touched By The Hand Of God...and it's about
Hooky's bass guitar. There Hooky, a rare compliment, a rare compliment."
PH: "Very rare and few in between, but I fucking loved it!"
(at end)
BS: "You're copied my chord there. Yes, what do you want?"
PH: "The switch to the other [two words] fucking broke that one."
[Not sure what this was about]
_True___Faith_
BS: "This is...er, True Faith. New version. Hope you like it. We do."
Hooky squeaks and mutters quite a bit during this one. "C'mon, you bastards...
for the Viking!" or something like that.
At the end:
BS: "Thank you. Yeah! Let's go for it."
_Temptation_
BS: "I need my special guitar for this one."
BC: [can't make out what he says, think it starts with 'Let me...']
BS: "Temptation."
He starts out with a 'woo woo' along with the beat, before the opening guitar
bit.
They play it. All their Temptations these days feature Barney counting
"1, 2, 3, 4!!" before going into the last break.
BS: "Thank you." Guitar chords.
PH: "It's very quiet, isn't it?"
Crowd yells.
PH: "What's the matter, scousers got yer bag?"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Eh, this song is called...ah, I can't remember(?)...it's something about love...
Love...Will...Tear...Us...Apart."
They play LWTUA.
Hooky yells "Here we go!" at the 1:24 mark. He also yells out, "Turn up my mic, Andy!"
at about 3:30, "Andy" again ten seconds later, and another "Here we go!" at the 3:53 mark.
BS: "Whoahhh...thank you very much, you've been a great audience. See you in sixteen
years!" (He laughs when he says this)
I guess Barney had forgotten they played Japan in 1987, which was only 14 years before.
The punters start to chant for New Order...somebody strums a bass...
then general clamour...and more chanting...before NO take the stage again.
Encore
_Ruined___In___A___Day_
BS: "How did you know we were going to do an encore? [noodles on guitar]
The lead gui-part...guitar part in this song is very, very difficult, so if
we play it out of tune, please bear with me."
Actually, this is a really good version. Nice guitar work, having
Corgan and Cunningham around helps.
BS: "Woo! Thank you. I cannot stop saying 'Woo', heh heh. Why do I do that?"
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, this is eh, a song called 60 Miles An Hour, off our new album called
Get Ready."
Initial ascending guitar riff before the sweeping synths preface the track.
BS: "Thank you very much."
PH: "God bless you."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, you might recognize this one. So, I'm not going to tell you
the title, so you can decide for yourself which one it is."
Huge cheers when the opening beats kick in, of course.
A couple of whoops and a whistle make their way in before the vocals
start. Lots of silliness on stage here, not the least of which was
Bernard's freaky dancing.
BS: "Thank you, good night, great to be back in Japan. We really
enjoyed it! Thank you."
The maelstorm is Blue Monday continues for a minute more before ending
in gigantic bass feedback, followed by Hooky throwing down his
instrument and walking offstage.
Announcer: "You were great...we loved it.!"
Then he goes into Japanese...the only phrase I can make out is
'New Order'. Any speakers want to translate?
I attended this performance. What I most vividly remember
was this girl who was doing a very intimate lap dance
for her partner, who unfortunately couldn't be persuaded
to stay beyond New Order's set (she wanted to stay, he
wanted to get busy). The last I saw of this couple was
him walking out, with the girl flipping him the bird
as she chased after him.
No, I'm not making this up.
Another highlight was the punk with a Low-life shirt,
who had scrawled on the back, "Fuck Moby". Ace.
Some reviews...
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Joseph
Sound:
Have to agree with Fernando. The sound was very poor.
The levels were definitely set for the bands on after
New Order (Outkast and Moby). The difference was so
great that on some songs it was almost like comparing
AM radio to CD sound quality.
The vocals were set too low until three and a half
songs in. With the exception of Hooky's bass, all of
the sounds ran together. Couldn't hear Bernard's
guitar on many songs (e.g., TF). I was at the
bottom/middle of the lawn section. Perhaps the sound
was better up close? Kind of doubt that.
The band knew that sounds levels were screwed up, and
were constantly (Bernard, especially) pointing to the
side stage to make changes (or even requesting changes
on the mike during songs). Bernard made a comment
after the fourth song -- in the middle of which they
adjusted the vocals sound level -- something like
"...well, at least half of it didn't sound like
shit..."
[Editor's Note: this comment seems to be missing
from the CD I have of this gig...nor do I recall him
making this comment.]
I've not heard the complete album. I did listen to
the sound clips and the downloaded Fuji concert. The
sound at the Mountain View concert, especially of the
new songs, was, not surprisingly, much poorer than the
album clips. But, it was also much worse than the
Fuji concert (which was actually pretty good).
[Compared to Reading '98, which I also was fortunate
to attend, the sound was on a completely different
scale -- not a fair comparison.]
I realize that at a festival with little or no
soundcheck time, that it's difficult/impossible to get
the sound levels correct. At the same time, though, I
wonder. Did the New Order sound at the show help or
hurt their chances for being successful again in the
U.S.?
Without decent sound levels for the new songs (and
even most of the older ones), does it just reinforce
the "80's band" label in the U.S.? In my mind, it
doesn't, but I'm not the majority.
Song selection:
New Order is known in the U.S. by the masses (i.e.,
most everyone not in the orchestra section) by five
songs: BLT, TF, TBTHOG, Temptation, & BM.
They had to play those songs. The difference in broad
audience participation was significantly higher during
those songs than all the others. I would've loved to
have taken a poll of the audience to see how many
people first realized it was "that" New Order when BLT
was played.
(LWTUA also got the audience's attention. Along with
In a Lonely Place, they were two songs that had good
sound balance. Best two songs of the day, IMO.)
Song order:
I was hoping they'd change the order from Liverpool
and Fuji. Starting with Atmosphere in a half-filled
outdoor amphitheatre with the sun setting just didn't
seem right. Whoops didn't help.
Energy level:
Hooky was very enthusiastic. Even hopped off the
stage during Blue Monday. Steve and Phil were into
it. Bernard was hopping around and seemed very
enthusiastic. He also, though, seemed a little peeved
about the sound.
The orchestra level audience was *very* enthusiastic.
To the balding guy in the French blue long-sleeve
shirt, I hope you drank lots of water afterward. You
must of sweated about a gallon of liquid.
Billy Corgan's involvement:
Although it's true he didn't necessarily do a lot on
stage, his presence meant a lot. He received very
loud/positive recognition when Bernard introduced him
and when he lingered on the stage at the end. Even
looked like he signed an autograph from the side/front
of the stage during a lull in a song.
It's been said before, but his presence will mean a
lot in the US market. Turn My Way will get
significant airplay, because of, in large part, him.
He has a very distinctive voice (whether you like it
or not) and the masses will instantly be drawn into at
least that song (and perhaps like it and try the whole
album).
Atmosphere (not the song):
New Order is not a day-time outdoor band. The
difference in atmosphere (along with the sound) of
Moby's show was startling. I realize that Moby's been
doing his show for a while now -- very rehearsed,
highly produced, etc. -- but it had impact (whether
you like his music or not).
A light show, a full venue, and darkness to help
people focus on the stage (as opposed to talking on
their cell-phones & walkie-talkies, commenting on the
people walking by, screaming to the ushers for
glow-in-the-dark thingys to hang around their neck,
etc.) make a world of difference. Even playing one
hour later (in the Outkast slot) would have made a BIG
difference. But, with a full tour commitment, it was
right to have Outkast slotted there.
(Funny side note: They turned on the smoke machine --
IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. Bernard disappeared several times
while singing. Not the cool floating haze like
Reading '98. Looked like a dust cloud had descended
upon him. After a few songs, Bernard said something
like, "Turn off the fucking smoke machine. You're
killing me.")
All that said, I'm still very glad to have been there
and grateful that New Order came back to the U.S. I
wish that I could go to the LA event to see if they're
able to improve the sound by then. I very much hope
they can come back again and tour in some mid-size
venues (e.g., Fillmore in SF).
Information from the (at least) two known versions of
this gig:
> From: GaoBest
> In a message dated 10/1/01 1:04:38 PM, the@new-order.net writes:
>
Al Jarvis later adds:
From: "Al Jarvis"
Sarge isn't a 'big bloke' at all. He's about 5'6? But he's mean as f---,
suppsedly. Head of security at the Apollo, I believe, and has only ever
acted as security for one act before - Barry Manilow! And he's defo not
Hooky's brother, just a mate.
4 of my mates managed to get their mugs into the Frisco audience photo
in Q magazine but me and the Mrs were to the right of the stage so don't
feature. If the cameraman had panned more to the left there was a big X
of St George in the audience held aloft by some lads from Slough and
Sunderland.
Transcription:
Sound is clear (being sourced from a DAT). Despite my initial report,
there are no dropouts in my copy (sorry gaobest!)
BS: "Hello everyone, we're New Order, it's great to be back in the
States! [bass chords] Please welcome our guest guitarist tonight,
Billy Corgan. Please welcome Phil...Phil Cunningham. Well, you like
Joy [Division]?"
(my copy of the gig cuts out after the word 'Joy')
_Atmosphere_
BS: "This is a song called Atmosphere."
PH: "One Two Three Four"
BC: "Yo...yo...(echo)"
Barney gets "whooping cough" during this song. Most people find this
affliction annoying during what are supposed to be downtempo numbers.
PH: (to roadie offstage) "Jerry...my foldbacks are still not working...
Can I have more guitar in the side fills, please."
BS: "Thank you...whoo! Thanks a lot, thanks a..."
_Regret_
BS: "Ok, this is a song called Regret."
Opening guitars are mixed way too low and Hooky's bass comes in out of
time. The sequenced hi-hat is high up in the mix. A fairly rare botch-up.
BS: "Yo! Jerry, a bit less on my guitar, please, a bit more
of the sequenced drums, sequenced shit."
(he's being sarcastic, of course)
_Crystal_
PH: "You're all right, matey[?]. _____ _____ the fucking amp is
coming out[?]
BS: "Okay, this is our new single. It's called Crystal"
(audience member yells out 'Who's playing that?')
Kick drum is very loud here...and the vocals kinda low.
BS: "Oh...thank you...whoo..."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: (plays note) "This is for you all old-timers. And you young timers.
Every living fucker in between."
BS: "Okay, this is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Ends up being somewhat of a singalong.
About 3:12, Hooky exclaims "Here we go, Steve!"
BS: "Thank you! It's one of those old songs, but we can do
even better than that! Just bear with us. You're in for one
hell of a...eh, a trip."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, this is an old song called "Your Silent Face."
And indeed they do much better. Again, the melodica makes
its appearance, and there's some improv...melodica jazz,
anyone? My copy has a pop/crack at 3:58.
BS: "Yo! 'ak you. Whoa..oa..oa...
(audience member yells 'Ceremony')
_Turn___My___Way_
BS: "This is a new song...off our new album Get Ready, features
Billy on vocals, and also...he plays a lovely solo in the middle
of it."
BC: "Take my hand...and don't let go"
BS: "And don't let go".
About 3:08 in, Barney cries "Yo! Phil".
I guess being around all those hip-hop acts is rubbing off on
Barney, yo!
Nice "thought that I was right" refrain in this version.
BS: "'k you! Yo!"
(audience member yells 'Ceremony' again)
_Bizarre___Love___Trangle_
BS: "Okay, after that, of course we're gonna play some of the
_____ you already know. This is called Bizarre Love Triangle."
BS: "Jerry....[whistles]"
They play the song.
BS: "'ank you...[groans]"
PH: "Fuck. Can't see me tuner, and sounds like there's something
wrong. [plays bass] Nah, it's just me, being a lazy...Salford
bastard. Like jazzy here, man."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "This is Touched By The Hand Of God."
BS: [3:33] "One Two Three Four!"
Another dropout at 4:41.
BS: "Thank you. Andy, will you turn that fucking smoke off, it's
driving me mad! I'm a confirmed anti-smoker, cigarettes are bad
for you!"
(more calls for Ceremony from the audience)
PH: "Haha...you got told off, Andy. Hehe."
BS: "Apologize for that one, a very slip of temper on my part..."
(recording cuts out briefly)
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is true faith...new version."
BS: [0:50] "Oh, bassline"
PH: [0:54] "Here we go"
BS: [1:13] "More bassline"
Hooky makes weird noises at about 5:15.
BS: "Thank you."
Arthur Baker intro
BS: "Please welcome...our producer Mr. Arthur Baker, stood right there
in the audience. Hello Arthur! Guy with the beard and the long hair.
Looks a bit like Rasputin. He's got a big dick just like me."
_Temptation_
BS: "well, you're laughing at (him?) anyway. Okay this is another
song, it's called Temptation."
BS: [5:37] "Oh, it's the last fucking time..."
BS: [5:52] "One Two Three Four!"
BS: "Ohah! Thank you"
(yet more calls for Ceremony from the audience)
BS: "'nk you. Fucking M...a bit tiring up here."
_60___Miles___an___Hour_
BS: "Okay this is eh, eh, called 60 Miles An Hour, it's off our new
album. Hope you like it. Hey whazzap Billy, c'm...an old friend back
here."
They play the song, and finish.
PH: "Not bad, was it?"
BS: "'k you."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Hey, this is Blue Monday"
PH: "Yo, get that bass a bit louder, for there's a man in Manchester
who can't hear it!"
BS: "No one can set _____ _____" [whistles]
BS: [1:42] Weird noise.
BS: "Thanks a lot, you've been a great audience, it's great to be back
in the States. This time we're here to stay, Keep on Truckin'!"
Outro...clapping...people wanting more, the usual.
Same set as Shoreline 7/31 except LWTUA moves to later in the set
before the encore...and True Faith was omitted... in my opinion the
performances here are better, not to mention the banter!) However,
I heard that the conditions they had to play in (rain/sparse crowds)
were less than ideal.
Source: CD from two separate DAT masters.
Transcription:
Intro
(a bit of right channel distortion, clears up by the start of
Atmosphere)
PH: "You fookin' boo, then we'll kick yer fookin' 'ead in."
On SR version, you can hear a bit of conversation, including GB with
"What did he say?".
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. Please welcome to the stage...(Phil says
"hallo") our new guitarist, Phil Cunningham, from England. And the most
obnoxious man in rock, Stephen Morris! Oh yeah, Billy Corgan as well.
And Peter Hook. (Hooky: "Heeey") And there's our roadies..."
GB (taper): "He's in a good mood."
(somebody notes that Barney's in a good mood...which based on what
I've read on Ceremony wasn't the case at all)
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Here we go."
PH: "1-2-3-4."
Barney continues with whooping, but it's less pronounced than the
Shoreline performance.
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Hey Billy, your sister's in."
BS: "Thanks a lot."
PH: "She's got that coloring set you gave her for Christmas."
_Regret_
BS: "Ok, this is a a [stutter] a song called Regret."
The levels are more reasonable here than in the Shoreline version,
which was plagued with technical difficulties.
BS: [whoop] "Thank you."
Somebody cries for Ceremony.
BS: "No, not playing Ceremony tonight...because Ceremony fucking sucks!"
(lots of laughter...maybe this is a snide allusion to the mailing list!)
http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038731&m=1124085831
Someone like me reports a slightly different wording:
"Only once, this year in Vancouver. I loved it, it was a dream come true.
My favorite moment was when somebody yelled "play Ceremony" and Barney
responded "I will play it for you, yea right, Ceremony F**king sucks" I
just started laughing. If anybody knows Barney, they will know that is
just his style of humor. Also Peter was very Interactive with the crowd.
I hope they come to the west again!!!"
BS: "We're gonna play our new single, however, because we all want
you to buy that one, we don't want you to buy Ceremony."
_Crystal_
BS: "We want you to buy our new single Crystal, and it sounds just
like this."
An exuberant "Yeeoooww" during the "keep it coming" parts. Also
some good thrash guitar soloing during the break, concluding
with another Hooky "Yeeoooww". The stereo seperation shifts a bit...
BS: "Thank you. Jerry, can you take the backing down a touch, please."
PH: "If only we could, we're not allowed to by the musician's union."
(talking at the same time Bernard introduces the next song)
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, this is called Your Silent Face."
_Turn___My___Way_
BS: "Thank you. Okay, we're gonna subject you to a new song now,
it's called Turn My Way, and it's all...all Billy Corgan's fault."
BS: "Thank you."
Somebody says "There's a little hole right here."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Bizarre Love Triangle. I heard you! And we're gonna play just for
you, the guy in the blue T-shirt and the yellow bit there, what's your
name? (punter cries out name) I feel like I've known you all my life.
Here we go."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "'hank you. Okay okay okay, can anyone guess what we're gonna
play next. [folk scream out Blue Monday, of course]. Apparently not."
PH: (interrupting) "I told you to watch your half..."
BS: "Well, listen and you've caught it on two. I'm ready when you're
ready, Roger."
Good riffing on this one. I love how Barney's vocals are so sensually
flat, and then they kick into high gear!
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "So slippery up here you can'tt do anything...I dunno...you Americans
and your weather."
(The crowd quickly corrects him, mock booing mixed in with laughter)
_Temptation_
PH: "You'll have to forgive me for that one, just like I forgive you."
BS: "Ignore what Hooky was saying, just listen to me. I'm the voice of
truth. This song is Temptation."
BS: "Thank you."
From: http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038731&m=1124085831
'Someone like me' reports:
"Your right, being my first New Order show, I would think anything of New
Order was cool. I will admit that Vancouver looks like it was one of the
worst shows next to Germany so far on this tour. I'm guessing because of
the weather, is the reason True Faith was off the set list.
I totaly forgot about Peter calling us Americans. (Not that is a bad
thing right about now). But just to let everyone else know. Peter said
"You Americans are all the same" And I was one of the people who
screamed "were Canadian" Then he said "I will forgive you, if you will
forgive me", Then Barney said "Don't listen to him listen to me."
It was funny. I hope they come to the west again."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "This is a song that we've never played in Canada before. It's
called Love Will Tear Us Apart...I think. Something like that anyway."
Feedback squall from one of the guitarists.
BS: "Get on with it!"
Hooky yells out, "Let's go, let's [something] rock!"
Good version.
BS: "Thank you. An oldie but goldie."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Now we're gonna play something that'll make you want to kill yourself.
Straight after you've heard it. Our speciality. It's called 60 Miles An Hour".
Pretty raucous version, Corgan does backing vocals here to I think.
BS: "Thank you. Whoa. It stopped raining as well, no it just started
again. Sorry. Anyway, we like the rain in England, I'm sure that
you like it too. Cuz no fucking choice have we really."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, this is our last song, it's called 'Brue Monday'. My
favorite."
(somebody in the crowd sarcastically comments 'Yeah, right!')
They play Blue Monday, which comes clattering to a halt.
PH: "Good evening, Vancouver!"
NO then depart
The between-set music comes on, and an interesting conversation
between the taper (GB) and his companion (JV) can be overheard:
JV: "They didn't play True Faith."
GB: "They didn't play True Faith, that's right. I was like annoyed.
I was like, 'Wait...where's...'.
JV: "Is that the only one they didn't?"
GB: "Yeah, they played all the other songs from Sh...from Tuesday."
JV: "You know, It's kinda interesting, though, because they've changed
the set...the order of it."
GB: "Yeah, they moved...Joy...Love Will Tear Us Apart to the end.
I was impressed, I didn't think they'd be capable."
JV: "No..they...I think most people are really into them."
GB: "Yeah, people here are really liking it."
JV: "Well, I was really surprised that Regret came on."
GB: "And everyone knew Regret."
-finis-
Plenty of reports from this one...looks to have been the best US
gig so far.
Pictures from the gig: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/chris_mealy
Source: tape from Waterrat (Anthony)...unfortunately, sound is very
hissy and muddy, but it's good enough for the job. :-) Also have a
CD from GaoBest...a different source, which sounds like a digital
master, but is also muddy, with very loud kick drum. I suspect
this was due to the acoustics of the venue. According to GaoBest,
he believes this was taped by ASw.
Transcription
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Hello, guess who we are? We are New Order. Not played in
Seattle for a while...of course, this isn't Seattle. We're going
to start off with a Joy Division song called Atmosphere, which we've
never played in Seattle."
They did play in Seattle once before, on the Technique tour, and
unless their setlist was remarkably different there, Bernard,
amazingly enough, may have been accurate in his recollection.
Crazed fan yells out "I love you!!!" at about 2:20 in (Waterrat).
Bernard whoops shortly thereafter.
_Regret_
BS: "Thank you. Thank you, it's a long time since we've played
that. 24 hours. This is...[can't make out rest, but it doesn't
sound like 'Regret' was mentioned]". Oddly enough, the last line
isn't even audible on the GaoBest copy.
_Crystal_
BS: "Woo! OK. All right. this is our new single, it's called
Crystal, please all go out and buy it immediately!"
This perhaps was the best-played Crystal so far.
BS: "Thank you!"
PH: [in reaction to fans shouting out titles, I presume]
"Nope, try again later!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "All right, we're gonna hear a new...I am...another Joy Division
song now, and it's called Love Will Tear Us Apart."
PH: "One...C'mon Billy, fucking hell...one, two, three, four!"
They play LWTUA.
BS: "'k you...you come over, eh?"
BS: "Let's hear it for David Beckham...Let's hear it for Manchester
United! [another pause] David, the guitar isn't working."
PH: "We're not allowed to chat with you during this intermission."
[or something to that effect]
_Your___Silent____Face_
BS: "All right, here we go, this is Your Silent Face."
NO play KW1.
BS: "Thank you very much [_very_ slurred]. It's great to be back in
America again. See some sunshine. Take some drugs! Meet a few ladies."
_Turn___My___Way_
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Turn My Way faturing Billy Corgan on
vocals...and guitar solo...me on capo...Hooky, your bass is feeding back
out."
Which they perform.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
Doesn't really sound any different than the million other times they've
performed this tune, though it was reported that Barney was off, rendering
one of the choruses without vocals.
BS: "'k you. Thanks a lot."
PH: "You're very kind."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Okay, this is the song that's gonna make [Hooky?] put down, it's
called Touched By The Hand Of God."
The timing was definitely off for this one, with Bernard coming in
a bit early.
When the song ends, some girlie yells out "We love you Billy Corgan!"
and start chanting "Billy Corgan...Billy...Corgan". !@#$% (Waterrat)
BS: "Absolutely beautiful place you got here for us to play...it's
a real pleasure to be here. [looking out over horizon] Where's Seattle?"
BC laughs.
BS: "Which direction is it?"
BC: "Over there."
Some girlies yell out "We love you Billy Corgan!", covering up the
reply Hooky made. !@#$% :-) (Waterrat)
PH: "Who's gonna..." [all I can make out]
BS: "Stephen, you're...[?]"
_True___Faith_
PH: "I'm ready...
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
_Temptation_
BS: "'k you. We actually finished it! Okay, I need my badass guitar
to play this song. It's called Temptation."
That Girl: Billy, Yeah! Screams. Shut up already, we get the point.
(Waterrat)
Some scuffling on the right channel during the beginning of the first
verse.
BS: "Thank you."
Guitar being strummed.
BC: (softly) "Thank you very much".
I don't hear the edit between the end of Temptation and the start
of the encore...it could have been than New Order never really left
the stage. Would appreciate any information.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
PH: "Ah, must be all you sweaty bastards playing havoc with our tuning."
BS: "This one's called 60 Miles An Hour, let's go. Get on with it,
Roger, or you're sacked!"
PH: "Ooh...[last phrase a mumble]"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Is Roger here? Must have startled him[?] This is Blue Monday.
Hope you like it as much as I do."
Some fool calls out for Ceremony. :-)
Some silly audience members start going "whoo whoo", in the fashion
of some contempory urban music hit. ;-) (both Waterrat)
BS: "Thanks a lot, you've been a fucking great audience. Thanks
for all the people than came over from England. Manchester United!
Manchester vibes in the area!"
Reviews
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:48:22 -0700
I'm dead tired, so tonight I'll just say this: That was a great show. My
life is finally complete. I'll post more about it tomorrow. I also
snapped a film rolls worth of pics. I'll get those developed tomorrow
and hopefully have them online Sunday or Monday.
Later,
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:55:13 -0700
Like I said in my last post, the show was great. My girlfriend and I
made our way into the crowd as soon as the Roots left the stage. After
a few minutes we found ourselves about 10 feet from the stage, almost
directly in front of Hooky's mic stand. It became apparent quickly that
most of the people in the crowd were there waiting for Outkast (who were
on after NO) But we did manage to meet a few nice people who were there
just for NO. In the words of one fan I met, "I paid $70 for New Order.
I could give a shit about the rest of the bands."
After about 30 minutes of waiting, I turned to say something to my
girlfriend. As I turned back around, there was Peter Hook looming above
me, arms crossed and staring blankly into the crowd. Soon the rest of the
band were on stage and they were playing Atmosphere. I've never been a big
fan of the Reading 98 version, but tonight it sounded beautiful. Bernard held
back on all the wooping that apparently has plagued previous gigs. I can't
imagine NO doing a better job of this song. It really was perfect.
After that Bernard stepped up to the mic and made some comment about how
he loves America. Then he said, "Here's a song we haven't played in 24
hours." Regret. At times this has been my favorite NO song, often on repeat
in my cd player. Tonight it didn't dissapoint. Everything about it was great.
Best part however, sometime during the song a beautiful rainbow formed over
the hills. I'm pretty sure NO had something to do with it.
Next on the list was Crystal. They started out with the piano/synth
intro from the extended version wich really got my hopes up (love the extended
instrumental at the end) however as soon as the intro was over it became
the edit. Apart from the keyboard bits in the break, Phil Cunningham was
down playing guitar with Bernard and Sick Boy (Corgan, who looked like he
was dead he was so pale). Crystal, for lack of a better term, really
"rocked" tonight. Nobody in the crowd seemed to know the song, but after
the song a number of people were making comments about how much they liked
it. Bernard also made the point of explaining to the crowd that Crystal
was their newest single and they need to go buy it "right now". Maybe he
didn't realize that it hasn't been released yet...
From here on my recollection gets of the set list gets a little fuzzy.
90 degree sun, tightly packed crowd and the fact that I had been walking
around for five hours at ths point had all led to fatigue. Here is a list of
the rest of the songs (if anyone has a better recollection of the set please
let me know):
Atmosphere
Overall it was a great show. My life really is complete now. LWTUA was
fantastic, as was most of the set. Sick Boy sounded horrible on Turn My
Way. Several people in the audience actually started booing very loudly
when Bernard introduced him for the song. Peter looked like he was having the
most fun on stage. Bernard kinda looked pissed (probably cuz he started
singing early on three different songs, which led to a silent chorus on
BLT). There really wasn't any interaction between the band members,
though. Hooky caught on to the fact that the security down front had to
look at the crowd the entire time, so he started swing his bass within inches
of their heads. Pretty funny. He was straddling a bunch of amps and lights as
well. He really was the star of the show.
I know I've probably missed some things but oh well. I just woke up. I'm
getting my film developed today, so I should have some pics online
Monday or Tuesday. Oh yeah, I'd like to give a shout out to all the ass-hole
Outkast fans that started crashing their way through the crowd before NO was
done. F**k all of you. Especially that ass that elbowed my girlfriend. Hope I
didn't punch you in the face too hard.
Great show, thanks New Order. Hope too see you soon!
Laters,
"You've caught me at a bad time,
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 15:36:19 -0400
I actually wrote this last night after getting home, but sent it from a
different IP forgetting that it wouldn't get through. Oh, and I was the
one in the aque/turquoise blue plaid button up short sleeves with the black
rimmed glasses for anyone that was there. Jeff Sheldon was that you I was
right next to?
bob
In two words: FUCKING BRILLIANT. Now, I've been waiting 15 years to see
them, so maybe just getting to see them is great, but it also offered all
the opportunity in the world to be disappointed.
I can't give you the set list, I don't remember, but they played about
what they played at the other shows--including True Faith (which they didn't
play in Vancouver?). The only song that didn't sound great was Turn My Way.
Could be that I'm just not familiar with it. Oh and Corgan's voice on LWTUA
really grated on my nerves.
Great crowd, even the couple of big dunder heads that were just there to
see Outkast and were standing at the very front. Completely motionless,
clearly not New Order fans. In between songs I said to one of them "Since you
aren't a New Order fan, and I've been waiting 15 years to see them can you let
me stand there?" He looked confused for a second but then moved and I was
right in front about 5 feet from Hooky! I had my friend's digital camera and
got about 60 shots. Not all of them are good, but some are absolutely
great. He's going to download them and put them on a site and send me the URL
so I will let everyone know. I couldn't really get any good shots of Stephen
because of the sun (absolutely blinding at times) and a particularly
large security guard who wasn't too accomadating about moving to the side a
few feet. But I got some *great* shots.
Temptation was brilliant, as were YSF, Blue Monday, Regret, LWTUA and
Atmosphere. My gods, Atmosphere. It was so amazing hearing it. But
again, the only song that I thought didn't sound good was TMW.
I'm sure someone else can give a better review than me but I thought I
would pass mine on.
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: happenstance
well, i was about 10 feet from hooky as well. seems like at
least three of use list members were all right together there,
and didn't know it. when a couple outcast people tried getting
through, i said, "that is not going to happen", and me and my
three friends made an impenetrable wall. the show was
spectacular. even bernard forgeting when not to sing in BLT,
and hooky kicking down the light. it was amazing.
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 21:09:20 +0000
Am stuck in Seattle airport with a few hours to kill so thought I'd send
a quick mail to the list. If anyone's going to the LA show look out for a
Union Jack with Ceremony written across it near the stage front. I should be
somewhere near there. Pop up and say Hello! George Saunders from the list
should also be in our vicinity as we've seen him at all shows thus far.
The 'Ceremony' isn't actually in reference to this list but we badgered
Barney at Vancouver airport to play Ceremony and like to remind him of
our request! Pointless I know, but +there you go! If you can't see a Union
Jack we're also meeting 3 English lads who've got a huge Cross of St George
with them. They should be able to point you in my direction if you ask for
Allen!
Shows thus far have been cracking, with only really Vancouver being a
letdown. Rained constantly there and we couldn't drink at the festival -
what was that all about?! Personal hilite for me is having Hooky write
'Peter Hook says f*** off' across my Shoreline setlist when we ran into
him at San Fran airport. Charming bloke.
Looking forward to LA, Allen & Co.
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:51:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: happenstance
seems like we were right near each other? what do/did you look
like there?
> It became apparent quickly that most of the
> people in the crowd were there waiting for Outkast
too bad, just a few more feet to the left and you would have
been in friendly territory...
> After about 30 minutes of waiting, I turned to say something
> to my girlfriend. As I turned back around, there was Peter Hook
> looming above me,
hookys "rock star" stances were brilliant. he cracked me up.
and, in my estimation, he knew exactly what he looked like.
there is a guy who looked like he really enjoyed the show.
during one song, when billy wasn't doing anything, he walked
over and started his "rock star" posing in front of him. then
he started nudging him with his bass. billy couldn't keep a
straight face then.
> I can't imagine NO doing a better job of [atmosphere]. It really was
> perfect.
yes, yes it was. a slow but excellent start.
> After that Bernard stepped up to the mic and made some comment
> about how he
see, i thought he said that in reference to atmosphere. he's
like, "we've never played this song in seattle before..."
sounding all sentimental before the song. then he finished,
after the song, by saying, "we haven't played that song in a
long time." as he stepped away from the mic, "It's been 24
hours."
> part however, sometime during the song a beautiful rainbow
> formed over the
well, i hope so. but some people seemed more excited about the
rainbow then new order. get your priorities right!
> Bernard
Here, I thought he said, "This is a new song, so don't leave
right now." I thought he was joking with the fickle fans there
to see the greatest hits collection and nothing else. crystal
was good, but 60mph was better. i actually thought turn my way
was better than crystal, but i'm a smashing pumkins fan as well,
so what can you do?
> Several people in the audience actually started booing very
> loudly when Bernard introduced him for the song.
i heard cheering, maybe one's opinion of billy shapes how you
hear people respond to him...
> Peter looked like he was having the most fun on stage.
coudn't agree more.
> Bernard kinda looked pissed (probably cuz he started singing early
> on three different songs, which led to a silent chorus on BLT).
hilarious! the song was still great, billy laughed at him,
while stephen and hooky looked a little nervous for a second...
speaking of bernard, we couldn't agree on this on the ride home:
does he know that he is one of the worst dancers of all time?
i think (giving him the benefit of the doubt as a long term fan)
that he knows he can't dance, so he plays it up real good. real
good, if you know what i mean. but my friends think he is just
terrible, and worse the more he gets into it. i don't know. at
least, either way he was enjoying the show enough to get into
it. i'm glad you could tell he was having somewhat of a good
time. but the running in place and goofy
side-back-kick-half-foot jumping?
> There really wasn't any interaction between the band members, though.
> Hooky caught on to the fact that the security down front had to look
> at the crowd the entire time, so he started swing his bass within
> inches of their heads. Pretty funny.
This was hilarious as well. Didn't you see him accidentally
kick the light down? he just kind of looked at as if wondering
what it was doing in his way in the first place. sometimes he
would stare vacantly into the upper reaches of the crowd, as if
disappointed they weren't into it as much as the horde of people
just in front of him. but then he would turn back to us and get
into it again. it all worked together quite well.
> F**k all of you. Especially that ass that elbowed my girlfriend.
> Hope I didn't punch you in the face too hard.
don't know if there are too many of them on this list... still,
i couldn't agree more.
> Great show, thanks New Order. Hope too see you soon!
yes! yes! yes!
okay, now i'm done.
-nob
ps - oh, i also noticed numerous people back stage singing along
with the new order songs. that was kind of cool.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:27:23 -0700
I just got back from area: one in los angeles. I kept reading about how
after seeing NewOrder people would say, "now my life is complete". Well,
that's exactly how I would describe how I felt after seeing NewOrder
tonight!! They were amazing. You could tell Bernard was completely into
it. Hook of course was all over the stage. Even Corgan was laughing and
smiling. It also seemed like they had packed in the stage area by the time they
came on. The tent must have been fairly empty when NewOrder was on.
During Blue Monday, some guy jumped on stage and scared the crap out of
Bernard when he snuck a pic of himself with his arm around Barney. It
was actually kinda funny. I met a list member there too. April, AKA (digital
girl?) was rocking out in front of me and even got a pick, a drumstick,
and the set list!! I stopped by the tent after and Oakenfold was on right
after NewOrder. He was playing crystal remixes!!
Here is what they played (but probably not in the right order):
Atmosphere
I'm super tired. Bye.
Albert.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Sultan
The highlight of the show was NEW ORDER (Gillian Gilbert included)
with Billy Corgan joining Moby for a great version of NEW DAWN FADES.
More review of the show soon with some backstage experience/on
stage/dressing room...Thanks to Peter Hook for his kindness.
BTW: was great to meet some member of the list
Subject: Area One report: Devore (Los Angeles)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 00:36:24 -0700
Setlist:
Atmosphere
Great to meet some you folks: Met Vincent and Torbjorn for dinner in
Santa Monica the night before, hooked up with David Sultan at the show
and met George Saunders, Al Jarvis and friend immediately after the set
finished (they were right behind us).
Managed to worm our way to about ten deep back from the stage, good view
of everyone except Steve for most of the time. We also set ourselves up
on the Hooky side (better action). Everyone was enjoying themselvesthe
crowd up front was pretty into it, I think out area was a hotbed of
activity more than any other perhaps. Sound was overblowing the
capacity of my eardrums, but balance between the instruments was pretty
decent I thought. TBTHOG was a standout for me- Phil's guitar part
sounded like regimented Andy Gill style and added something new. I
really liked Crystal and 60 MPH, thought Turn My Way was pretty weak
relative, but not bad- just maybe was more suited for an Electronic
album. Pretty decent length set- with the new members, they weren't
improvising with their set at all of course, Phil and Billy had a list
of songs they had to learn and Bernard wasn't going to lead them into a
run of Ceremony, despite repeated requests. Bernard did a dedication to
some fans from Texas- what was that about? Seemed like the group to my
left had something to do with it. Billy Corgan had quite a following,
apparantly, and Bernard was careful to give him credit several times
throughout the gig- at the end, both he and Peter Hook gave him hugs,
Peter apparantly trying to crush his ribcage in the process. During
Blue Monday, some guy ran on stage and pulled what looked like Bernard's
earmonitor and threw it into the crowd. Also worth noting was Bernard's
careful introduction of all the new tracks (which helped with my list).
Quite an experience. The Joy Division songs didn't inpact me as much as
I would have expected, but Atmosphere was pretty awesome. The
dedication in Steve's drumming and emotion on his face was obvious.
Bernard seemed pleased with the crowd, said it was good to back in LA
etc. There was a joke about Billy getting all of the chicks, but then
Billy responded that they were only sleeping with him because he
promised they could have Bernard afterword- Bernard said he wasn't too
excited about Bernard's sloppy seconds.
How David managed to sneak in a full size 35mm SLR camera is beyond me.
Also- who had the NW ORDER license plate? Anyone?
It really was a fantastic experience, my first time seeing them play, as
well as my friend Chris, who showed me the Ceremony list in about 1992
or 1993.
Hope all of you folks manage to take them in some day.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:44:05 -0700
> During Blue Monday, some guy ran on stage and pulled what looked like
> Bernard's earmonitor and threw it into the crowd.
Actually, the guy jumped on stage with a point n shoot camera and tapped
Bernard as he was looking away. Right when Bernard turned around, the
guy put his arm around him and took a picture. Bernard had this freaked out
look on his face, as anyone would, when he turned around and say this guy
pointing something at his face.
You guys must have been a few people behind me. I was a few feet from
hooky and could of actually just reached out and touch his bass!! April,
another list member, actually did. So I guess she got hooky's attention
cos he handed her a pick, drumstick, and set list to her. It was kind of
funny because there were a few people there in the front that were obviously
waiting for outkast. Half way into the NewOrder set they were
dancing/bouncing just as crazily as the rest of us..great fun!
John Frye then replies:
We saw Hooky paying a lot of attention to that area and saw him hand off
the pick and drumsticks. April must be hot, eh?
And from "April" herself:
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 20:16:50 +0000
Hello all!
First off I feel very grateful that this was a General Admission event
otherwise I wouldn't have been as close to the stage as I was. We got
there at 3:30 and immediately went to the stage and stayed there until 11:30
when Moby was done with his set. It was actually hard when Outcast was
playing their song "Miss Jackson" and many were moshing behind us and smashing
us! I really HATE the music but I wanted to keep my place for Moby. I also
feel very fortunate to have met some incredible people there as well. Thanks
Albert for being such a nice person to me, and tell your friend to stop
being so quiet :P I really wish I would have met more of you guys but
hopefully they will come out here next year and we can really meet up!
Well enough about my day, the concert I have to say was THE BEST DAMN
CONCERT I HAVE EVER BEEN TO IN MY ENTIRE LIFE! I really didn't know how
I would react to them being there in person so close to me! It was
phenominal to say the least. As I said before I was lucky enough to be
right smack in front of the Hooky himself. He was the most energetic of
the band, he was getting the crowd crazy. I also managed to get his
attention and managed to get his pick (handed to me by the way), his
drumstick right after he jammed on the drum machine in Blue Monday.
I also got a set list, which is a real good thing I hear. He even
let me touch his guitar :o) :o)
I really couldn't believe I had gotten his attention, even enough for
him to stare at me and actually sing "I will take care of you like I
always do" from 60mph to me, I mean he pointed at me, looked at me,
and sang that line. Every time I hear that line I will get the chills!!
Who knows, it could have had something to do with the Get Ready shirt
I had on!
Ok, about the songs...Atmosphere was absolutly wonderful..Regret wasn't
as good live as on album, but I still enjoyed it very much..Crystal was
played very well and they all really got into it, basically they got into the
new songs a lot..LWTUA was the best I have ever heard it, although Billy did
look shy singing it with Peter..True Faith was brilliant, always one of
my favorites..Your Silent Face was one of the best songs, I loved how
Barney played that piano thing he blew into (sorry, I don't know what it is
called)..I almost cried during Temptation..and the rest were just incredible
(this is getting long now)
At the end of Moby's set I was very suupprised to see GILLIAN there, she
was actually there.. it was awesome to see her im person and with the rest
of the band...another suprise was that John Fruciante from the Chili Peppers
was there....very wonderful...
The last thing that made the day THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE was that some
guy gave me a free t-shirt in the parking lot as we were searching for the
car.
This whole day was a dream and I couldn't ask for more, well maybe to meet
them :P, I don't think another concert could come even close to this
unless I do meet them someday... well a girl can dream can't she!!
Well that is my LONG post, I hope I didn't bore anyone but I had to
express my wonderful NewOrder experience to all.. I do feel very lucky.
Thanks again NewOrder and expecially Hooky for making me feel so good!
April (Dgitalgirl)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:39:37 -0700
>another suprise was that John Fruciante from the Chili Peppers
>was there....
yea, he often mentions Bernard sumner as one of his favorite
guitarists..flean and john frusciante are also big joy division fans and
sometimes play around LA in their joy division cover band.
Albert
-Transcription-
Taken from CD from digital master. Just the right amount of crowd
noise. Thanks GaoBest, as always.
_Intro_
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. And we're on fire. Please welcome to the
stage, our guest guitarist, Mr. Billy Corgan. And over here, our new
guitarist, with the leather trousers, Mr. Jim Morrison...sorry, Phil
Cunningham."
_Atmosphere_
BS: (strums guitar) "Okay, this is Atmosphere."
They play Atmosphere. Good version, light on the whoops.
BS: "Thank you for an old Joy Division song which we're very proud of.
It's gotta be one of the most beautiful songs ever written. To the
second-most beautiful song ever written, also coincide...coincidentally
by us, Regret."
_Regret_
The metronome makes its appearance here. Is it a musical effect or
just so Bernard can keep time? I think it's the latter, given these
are being taped near center stage.
BS: "Thank you. Thank you very much."
PH: "Here, I [can't make out last word]..." (in fact, I can't really make
out any what he said). Barney interrupts. He does that a LOT.
_Crystal_
BS: "This is our new single Crystal. and if you go out and buy it
immediately, I'll sleep with you...each and every one of you personally,
and so will Billy, and so will Hooky. (BC laughs) We'll do anything to
sell ourselves."
Which they play.
BS: "Thank you."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Feedback.
BS: "All right, thank you. This is a song I don't think we've ever
played here before, but then again, I could be lying. It's called
Love Will Tear Us Apart.
PH: "Give a great [ ?] next to our friends from Texas. 1-2-3-4!"
Hooky shouts "Let's go!" about 1:55 in.
BS: "Thank you....thank you, thank you. We're gonna slow things down
a little bit."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, this is Your Silent Face".
Some interesting feedback, and the melodica solo is cool.
Small skip about 4:58 in.
BS: "Thank you."
Some girl yells for Billy to take off his hat, twice.
BS: "Billy, what's going on between the stage here with those girls?"
I never knew...never knew you were that sort of guy."
BC: "I...I tell these girls that if they sleep with me, they can sleep
with you."
BS: "Sloppy seconds."
BC: "That's assuming I can..." [Bernard interrupts him]
_Turn___My___Way_
BS: "All right, this is Turn My Way, featuring the sex stud himself,
the star of the show, Mr. Billy Corgan, on vocals!"
Which he sings...
BS: "Thank you!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a song you all know now. It's Bizarre
Love Triangle."
BS: "Thank you."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: (ugh) "Okay, this is another song. it's called Touched By The
Hand Of God."
Starts out with the same sort of feedback that was present in YSF, but
even more audible. Awesome.
BS: "'ack you."
BS: "Woo...Billy's girl got this sign that sign that says 'Please sleep
with me or give me a guitar pick.'"
Girl yells out again "Take your hat off!"
BS: "What's that say?"
PH: "We're going to get the pick off of that side...[last two words
mumbled]".
BC: "It's cheaper to, uh..."
BS: "It's cheaper, right."
_True___Faith_
BS: "True Faith"
As usual, it's the Perfecto mix.
BS: "Thank you."
PH: [Groans]
BS: "(grunts) I think we've had enough now, it's getting a bit hot up here."
_Temptation_
BS: "It's called Temptation."
Which. they play.
BS: "Thank you."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, here's a track from our new album, new album's called Get Ready,
and this track is called 60 Miles An Hour. It's a protest against the speed
limit. Not a very good subject for a song, but it sounds pretty good.
PH; "Whoa, thank you very much California, it's fucking great to be
back! I suppose I gotta say goodbye to you now Billy."
BC: "Bye." (the freak fan's still calling for him to take his hat off)
PH: "Only PT...bye Hooky"
BS: "Billy, I like to thank you sincerely for helping us out on this
tour, it's been a pleasure having you."
BC: "Thank you."
BS: "All the rumors about you have been completely unfounded. You are
a really nice guy. Billy, put it there."
I assume they give each other five.
BS: "And you know, underneath that hat, he's even got hair!"
BS: "Bye Hooky, bye bye Hooky. Lippy, you're a nice guy as well,
Lippy, come and say hello to the audience. Lippy, c'mon. Lippy,
c'mere, c'mere..."
(Lippy is 'Phil' backwards)
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "All right, this is Blue Monday. Get into the groove, you
motherfuckers!"
Phil (I presume) screws up on the keyboard parts a couple of times.
Good stretch of feedback about 5:00 in.
BS: "Thanks a lot, it's great to be in LA again. You've been a fucking
great audience, and what else can I say? Thanks, Billy! And thank you
Lippy! Thank you Lippy!"
NO: 11 AUG 01 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne Germany
Review from Ceremony list:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:44:36 +0000
Bizarre one this. Bought a standing ticket to be as near
to the Order as possible but got into the stadium around
4pm (first band 5pm) to find out they'd already filled out
their quota of fans stage-front so - after my initial
disgust - settled down in the sun to sink beers and watch
the bands from a bar at the far end of the pitch, what seemed
like a million miles away.
Got talking to a German neworder bod though (dressed in
Temptation 98 t-shirt) who was convinced we could genuinely
get down the front after Ash's set. JJ72 and Ash came and
went so me and 2 of my party made for the left hand side of
the stage in order to gain access to the inner sanctum. 2 burly
security guards were having none of it and refused a 100Dm bribe
so we took another 20mins to wade through the assembled bodies
(it seems German concert goers set themselves down in one spot
for the entire duration and don't even need to move due the
wandering Becks salesman replenishing their every liquid need)
and finally made it to the right of the stage to be faced by a
fresh-faced security guard on his own. And he wouldn't even accept
a 300Dm (100 pounds in real money!) bribe to let us through! Of
all the cheek. But just at that point the infamous Alex gave me
a tap on the shoulder, and so there we were - me + 2 and Alex + 6,
10 English Neworder fans in all - marooned behind a barrier, more
than yards back from the stage - when the band finally appeared.
Atmosphere started with Primal Scream drowning out the band, still
playing on huge video screens either side of the stage. And it was
all downhill from there. Absolutely NO-ONE else was up for this
one. No atmosphere whatsoever. Cue Barney: "Are you all having a
good time [pause] Cos it doesn't fucking look like you are." A huge
Mexican wave started during 60mph and got a bigger cheer than the
band had all evening. Blue Monday finally got the German heads
nodding but all in all this gig seemed a totally pointless exercise.
If ever a gig deserved World In Motion finale, it was this one. That
might've ruffled a few feathers. Robbie, on the other hand, rocked
the venue - he is the ultimate showman. Anyone who can get 60,000
Germans singing along to English-language songs and have 30% of them
bedecked in Union Jacks is a winner in my book. A sound bloke. Quote
of the night "I used to be in the Spice Girls [pause] Well, two of
them". Boom boom. Not a bad day out, all in all, just a bit
'different' as New Order gigs go.
Set - same as America, minus TMW and True Faith.
Another review:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:19:36 +0200
Hi!
just returned home from the cologne gig - my first ever new order gig...
(waited 11 years... hm, blabla...) anyway, it was more than an
experience, already suggesting before that it will be a tough show
due to the audience (best question I got asked by a teen girl - do you
know who new order are? we think they are a boyband...) - incompetent
organization (the already mentioned thing about getting into the first
rows... you have x robbie fans sitting there the whole time and no chance
due to wristbands been given out to them to get in there...), so we had
to enjoy the band from the second circle + I have never ever seen a more
igonrant audience before...
setlist has already been mentioned - lovely choice to let your silent
face stay in the set (my bet was this would be out...) + leaving most
of the people there totally bewildered. barney started to take the piss
out of the audience + add more lovely comments as the gig continued.
(do you like dance music? nah, you probably like marching music),
temptation is a song about all the lovely things in life that we never
do like poking in the nose... hm, and blue monday is about the soft-sex
movies on german pay-tv in hotel rooms... hehehe, by the way, phil
got a plastic bottle thrown at him - and at the end of blue monday
hooky threw his bass into his amps...
so, you can say, quite a special night, enjoyed it a lot personally - a
shame about the audience!!! very intense performance nevetheless!
can't wait for the autumn dates.... Dennis
Excerpt from a London Times article (Paul Connolly)
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,146-2001286578,00.html
Bernard Sumner glares balefully at 60,000 apathetic German Robbie
Williams fans in Cologne's Mungersdorfer stadium. "Do you like
dance music?" he asks. No response. Even from way back in the crowd I
can see him bristle at the lack of reaction. It's clear he's dying
to let rip. He can't keep it in any longer and growls menacingly,
"Do you like marching music?" and New Order rip into Touched by
the Hand of God, one of their huge fund of classics.
Backstage after the gig Sumner grins when I remind him of his comment.
“That was the least offensive thing that sprang to mind. I had to
keep biting my lip. Robbie Williams fans aren't really our audience."
Peter Hook, the band's bearded bassist and master of melody, quite
enjoyed the show. "As Bernard often tells me, 'You'd enjoy
playing in Beirut.' But I like a challenge. After the show Robbie
Williams hugged me and said 'Well done, you did well to get through
that.' Mind you, Bernard was so annoyed I thought he was going to
start World War III." New Order are playing at the request of Robbie
Williams, but most of the crowd were probably still at primary school
when the band released their last album, 1993's Republic. It's no
surprise that the sight of these fortysomethings playing music that
still sounds futuristic doesn't stir their hormones.
But for the few New Order aficionados in the crowd the sight of the band
dubbed 'the post-punk Beatles' playing again after such a long
hiatus is a near-religious experience. They are the most influential
band of the past 25 years, without New Order there would be no U2,
Primal Scream or Pet Shop Boys.
Transcription
As advertised, the source that I have sound like they came from the
soundboard [note: it's probably FM] And also as advertised, the
between-song comments here are especially good. i don't know how
sincere they are, a lot of it is from Barney knowing the Germans
understand not a word he says.
Since picked up the full FM version that was posted to STG by
booomboom.
_Atmosphere_
Not complete, fade-in.
BS: "Thank you. Erm, all [can..?] me and Hooky. Can I have a bit more
keyboards and drums, please."
(off-mic) BS: "Turn it down a little bit."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Regret. Hope you like it."
They play Regret.
BS: "Okay, thank you. Hey Jerry, if you can cut Hooky on side fills
a bit, that'd do me a big favor. And I'm not hearing Phil too well."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, this is our new single. It's called Crystal. Hope you
like it so much you go out and buy it. We need your support."
PH: "Thank you" (may be Phil)
BS: "One two one two one two."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "This is another old song, ...a fucking well-deserved rest. One two three
four!"
BS: "All right."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: [muttering] "...very professional...".
BS: "Hello. Are you having a good time here in Cologne? It doesn't fucking
look like it. I've soon you best sort your fucking lives out. [guitar chords]
And we're gonna play something you don't like. This is called Your Silent Face.
Bernard calls for Hooky right after the synths start up.
During intro...
BS: "This is very Bavarian song. Think of the mountains in Bavaria.
Skiing! Naked saunas! I was gonna say something else, but I won't."
Barney whoops before the first verse.
And says "Thank you" in Deustche.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Bizarre Love Tri...[mic cuts out]. Oh, fuck.
And, uh..."
Barney whoops during the intro.
BS: "'k you. Very polite of you."
_Touched___By___The____Hand___Of___God_
BS: "I see you got a group there in Cologne? Do you like dance music. No?
All right. Do you like marching music? Okay this is a song called Touched By
The Hand Of God. [he giggles a bit delivering this line]" He ahhs and makes
a couple other Barney-esque noises, including a grunt, whoop, and whistle
This version is a bit shambolic.
BS: "Thank you very much, very polite audience tonight."
PH: "Yes, you can." [dunno who he was responding to] Plucks bass a
bit.
_Temptation_
(punter can be heard crying for "Blue Monday" right before Barney starts speaking)
BS: "Okay, this is a song...you probably have never heard of, actually looking at
you, but in England [Hooky laughs] it's a very famous song [Hooky gasp-sighs].
It's called Temptation. [Phil chuckles]... It's about doing bad things, which
obviously you never do, like picking your nose, and forgetting to cut your toenails."
They play Temptation.
BS: "Thank you. Thank you very much. Very kind of you..."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
Electric guitar chord.
BS: "Ok, this is a...a new song off our new album, which is called
Get Ready. It's called 60 Miles An Hour, which is the speed limit in
England actually. So if you ever go to England, be careful how far...
how fast you drive, because it's a lot faster than your speed limit,
which I believe I believe is, eh, only a hundred kilometers an hour.
Very interesting point there."
Hooky blows the intro.
PH: "Unh..."
Hooky's bassline is a bit different than the recorded version.
You can also hear Phil Cunningham on backing vocals I think.
BS: "Thank you. Fuckin' 'ell, you liked that one? What did we
do right there? Is there something...and you never heard it
before, neither?"
Hooky strums a bit more.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, you might have heard this hoary old chestnut we're
about to play, it's called...it called Blue Monday. It's about the
porno channels in German hotels. Which are absolutely disgusting."
All the audience claps along to this one.
BS: "Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And, eh...you
[might as well know?] we'll be back again soon. Keep your dick
in your pants, bye bye!"
This was performed to commemorate John Peel's forty years
in radio. New Order were originally scheduled to attend, but
due to the event being postponed, were not able to be there
at the rescheduled date, so instead, they performed a song
on videotape and sent it in.
The date assigned represents the original air date, the song
was probably taped a few days before. Available in Realmedia
and as a .mp3.
For the first time ever, New Order (as New Order, that is) perfrom
Transmission!
(Although Daniel Butt reported that there were rumors that NO
was soundchecking this song during some of their '98 gigs)
BS: "Hallo, Jon, here's to...ah, 40 years in the business. Ehm, if
you've not played our record 20 years ago, how long is it Hooky?"
PH: "It's a long time, I know that..."
BS: (continues) "If you've not played our record all those years ago,
we wouldn't be here today, so thanks a lot.
PH: "Here's to the next 40 years, mate!"
BS: "Alright, this is a Joy Division song called Transmisson, and no
spitting, please."
What's interesting about this performance is the locale, which looks
to be at the Morris' (or is that the Gilberts'?) Macclesfield farm.
I think that's Phil Cunningham in the background (to the left behind
Barney) playing guitar, he can only be seen a couple of times. It looks
like Gillian wasn't present (or playing) during the performance.
I'd really like to know how he hooked up with New Order.
My opinion is that this is a pretty damn good version. No whoops...
well, only one.
And as noted on the Ceremony list, there's indeed a poster of Touched By
The Hand Of God hanging from one of the walls.
BS: "Thanks a lot, John. Keep on rookin'!"
Johnathan Scott sent in email to Ceremony AT the concert.
From: fourfortyfive
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:11:18
Crystal, TRANSMISSION!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:13:17
Absolutelyt amazing!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:19:23
Regret, Ceremony...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:25:49
60 MPH
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:38:20
Your silent face, Slow Jam
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:42:15
Close Range
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:48:29
Touched By...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:52:06
B.L.T.
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:02:00
True Faith
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:05:04
Temptation...fucking amazing!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:16:32
Love Will...,Atmosphere
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:23:39
Encore about 2 mins away
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:28:10
Ruined in a day
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:34:24
Rock the Shack
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:43:55
Blue Monday. END. FANTASTASTIC!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:45:36
A work OF GENIUS
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:31:28 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Just heard DAT of the gig. Great stuff.
--
NME Review
Subject: (Fac33) From nme.com
THE DAWN OF A NEW ORDER WORLD
NEW ORDER started their UK tour on home turf last night (October 4)
with their first major MANCHESTER show for nearly three years.
The band played the first night of a two-night residency at the
Manchester Apollo to a suitably packed crowd of local fans and friends.
Excepting a minor appearance to launch next year's Commonwealth Games, the
last time they played in the city was New Year's Eve 1998.
The performance, at almost two hours in duration, was unusually long for
a
The hometown crowd were typically wild, with vocalist Bernard Sumner
forced to ask people to move back after 'True Faith' because of fears of
crushing at the front.
He joked, "Free drinks at the bar on me. That's only if you go now."
Bassist Peter Hook responded "Fucking hell, that's a once-in-a-lifetime
offer!"
Billy Corgan, who had accompanied the band on their US tour and at their
comeback show at Liverpool Olympia in July, did not appear. However,
Hooky acknowledged absent keyboard player Gillian Gilbert, calling into
the crowd, "Are you alright G? Are they looking after you in there?"
New Order return to the Apollo tonight (October 5), then play Glasgow
Barrowland (7-8), before playing three nights at London's Brixton
Academy next week (October 10-12).
The next single from 'Get Ready' has been confirmed as '60 Miles An
Hour', released on October 22.
Manchester Evening New Review:
From: "John Gardner"
'Rock legends return - New Order
WE hope you enjoy it, mused Bernard Sumner as New Order, the city's most
enduring musical export and probably its most influential, took the
stage for their first home-town gig for nearly three years.
It would have been impossible for anyone in the sell-out house not to
have enjoyed it.
They haven't changed much New Order were always the rock band dance fans
liked and the dance act rock fans could get into but at the same time,
they have, which explains why the audience comprised as many 40-somethings
who remember them first time round as it did 20-somethings.
With former Marion man Phil Cunningham standing in for Gillian Gilbert
on keyboards and guitar, that was also the case on stage.
The new album Get Ready is a bit mixed, but it does include a few gems.
One such is Crystal, which kicked off the show. Its thumping bass-line
allowed the leonine Peter Hook, whose bass is so low-slung these days it
scrapes the floor, to show off his idiosyncratic playing style.
Whereas most bands treat gigs as a chance to showcase the new stuff, New
Order, as they get older, are exhuming more and more of the Joy Division
back catalogue, with a suitably sombre Transmission being the pick.
But what everyone wanted to hear were the New Order classics. Bizarre
Love Triangle received a curious acid house treatment which didn't quite
come off, while Touched by the Hand of God was touched instead by a dollop
of funk which sounded little more than work-in-progress.
The highlight was unquestionably a majestic True Faith, with Temptation
a close second. They could only finish the gig with one track, and a
triumphant Blue Monday for which Gillian appeared duly concluded the
show.'
Some other random comments:
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:58:38
Writeup of main set only. The copy of this in my possession
doesn't have the listed encore tracks.
AW: "Arthur Baker...just give us a couple of minutes, couple
of minutes while the guys get ready cuz I just want to tell you
something about these guys. It's not all dollars and dimes.
I really love these guys, I love 'em. I love Hooky's legs,
I love Bernard's bottom, and I love Steve's mouth. Eh, you
listen...you know they've got their own musical influences,
and we're very honoured tonight to have a guest here that's
gonna be with 'em that's kind of launched them on their
career. I want to give you a big Manchester welcome to
Mr. Max Bygraves! Max."
"Max": Alright, it's not Max, it's Ken. To a fucking good
time and let New Order rock the fucking house!"
AW: "So give them a welcome....it's JOY DIVISION!"
Chants of 'New Order' can be heard.
_Crystal_
BS: "I must apologize for, eh, Hooky's boyfriend's speech there.
It's the big guy, it's the portly guy, he likes 'em big.
Anyway, we're New Order, you're the audience, and this is
Crystal."
He says this through some nice-sounding feedback.
Bernard messes up on the first line and/or the vocals weren't
turned up on time.
BS: "Thank you. Wooo!"
PH: "You're very kind.
BS: "Well..." (or some similar interjection)
PH: (at the same time, making it hard to hear what Bernard said)
"It's girls, not boys."
_Transmission_
BS: "It's not like chanting for New Order, because this is
a Joy Division song, it's called Transmission."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play you a New Order song. This is called
Regret."
Audience member says something in hard-to-decipher brogue near
the start. Levels go up around the 2:20 point.
BS: "Thank you. Fucking hard work, this, you know."
_Ceremony_ follows.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Eh, this is...this is a song off our new album, and it's
called 60 Miles, uh, Miles An Hour, or 60 MPH ...I don't know
what that it is in kilometers, I'll let you work it out for
yourself."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "'ank you. So we better chill things out a little bit now,
because I don't know about you lot, but I'm getting pretty hot
up here. And you know what, I don't like getting hot. I don't
think anyone does really, do they? Well, not anyone from Manchester."
A few seconds pause.
BS: "Please welcome our new guitarist, Mr. Phillip Cunningham.
Good Northern lad. Although he's too posh for us now, he lives
in LA. Stuck up twat. Okay, this is Your Silent Face."
Playing goes a bit askew at 3:30 point.
Bernard doesn't sing the signature lines, but the fans fill it
in just fine.
BS: "Thank you very much."
Fans chant...you know what...
_Slow___Jam_
BS: "Bunch of Manchester United fans in here tonight. (quite a
few fans boo, it's mostly City folks) Good to hear it. I'm going
to an England match tomorrow. Good to hear it. I think I've run
out of things to say actually, you're right. This is Slow Jam,
off our new album."
_Close___Range_
BS: "Eh, this is another song off the new album, it's called
Close Range."
BS: "Thank you."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
PH: "Heh heh he...three guesses [mumble]..."
Punter yells out the right answer.
PH: "Ah, you were here last night, you bastard."
BS: "Pardon? Excuse Hooky's sparkling wit there. He usually
starts the swearing at this time of night, don't approve of it
myself."
PH: "Fuck off."
BS: "See what I mean? Very...right. This is Touched By The Hand Of
God."
Quite a few "woahs" throughout. As well as some good wah-wah from
Phil.
BS: "'k you. Did you like the new dance? (chuckles) It's ridiculous,
really, ain't it [word].... W've got to do something, don't we, in between singing.
It's a bit of a hop, really innit, more than a dance.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
This song is about Hooky and his boyfriend who came on earlier. Big
fat Al. Oh, sorry, big fat Ken, and it's called...Bizarre Love
Triangle."
PH: "Truth is stranger than fiction."
BS: "Or soon-to-be boyfriend..."
(at end)
BS: "Ohh, thank you."
Chants of...well...you know...Synth note.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Where's Hooky gone? He's like a fookin' Jack-in-the-Box, isn't he?
You'll have to put a chain 'round your leg."
PH: "It's all my youthful energy, you see."
BS: "All right, this is True Faith."
punter: "One of the best songs...Bernard..."
BS: "Thank you. You know, we never ever ever ever get the end of that
song right. And it's Hooky's fault, always."
PH: "You don't mean that, Barney..." [not 100% sure if that's what he
actually says]
BS: "Sometimes it's Steve, and sometimes it's Phil, but it's never
fucking me."
PH: "We can do it with more members of the band."
BS: "Actually, it's the audience's fault."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is a song that you all know and love. It is Temptation."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "In your one time, when you're ready.
Blood curdling scream near the end...
BS: "Thank you!"
_Atmosphere_
PH: "You certainly turned me a [mumble], fuck me. Right, Andrew.
Andrew Fisher, we're all thinking about you, mate, this is for you.
I hate that fucker...one, two, three, four..."
BS: "Thank you, good night. Been a fucking great audience..."
(recording fades)
Setlist:
Sunday, Oct7
Rock The Shack Encore
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 00:57:12
Bless
Quality not quantity tho'.
Despite not setting off the metal detectors I was frisked anyway.
Glad I didn;t take my minidisc.
Got it in ok to the first manc night..but the band were a bit off
at points plus I had a lady with me who insisted in talking during
and between songs. ggrrrrrrrrrrrr
met up with Al and Jon and bumped into several other faces from the
manc show. Sound blokes the lot of them :-)
Onto tomorrow night we go :-D!!!
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:04:59
As already mentioned by Colin, the Glasgow gig was something a bit
special being described by one of the venue promoters as perhaps one
of the most impressive gigs he had ever seen.
Ally and myself were left in the enviable position of viewing the bands
soundcheck in the cavernous Barrowland along with perhaps only 8 others
in attendance. Bernard completed "Rock The Shack" then exited stage left
leaving the remaining members of the band to play "Crystal" with a
member of the bands crew looking after vocals. A couple of run throughs
seemed to please the band then Hooky hit us with "Transmission", again
with a management member taking care of the vox.
Jonathan Scott.
From: Deron Pease
Hi Ceremony Gang.
Just wanted to share with you my New Order Glasgow experience:
(setlist updates at end, if you want to skip my ramble)
I just got back to Boston from Glasgow and saw both shows there.
I exploited having a good friend to visit as an excuse to fly over
to see my favorite band!! Had to keep up my record of seeing them
at least once every year they've toured since 1986. right?!
The Sunday night show absolutely blew the roof off the Barrowlands!!!
It was truly amazing. We were down front-center of the stage, and
the moment the boys stepped on stage the crowd started hopping.
By the end of the first song, we were drenched, but everyone just
kept going. Later as the night went on the sweat mixed with tears of
joy.
It was quite nice of them to throw in a couple slower songs just to get
a break from the aerobics. Bernard and Hooky were totally having a
blast, smiling and telling the audience how great we were, and joking
with each other about getting old, bragging over who had the better
roadie. heh.
Brilliant show!
Afterward I waited around front trying to get a setlist or something
cool, but I had to settle for one of Bernard's plectrums.
No big deal, probably never even used, but I play guitar a bit
so I can use with the pleasure of knowing where it came from!
I have to say, I love seeing NewOrder in the UK. There seems to be
more camaraderie. More people know all the songs instead of just
the hits. When you're in the pit hopping around, everyone is
your Best friend. It's good fun!
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:43:30 EST
hey guys
i like how before "your silent face" the crowd (at least the crowd
surrounding the taper) is chanting "true faith" so my question is
whether the entire audience was chanting this, or just a part of
the crowd was chanting. Surely someone from this list attended
and can advise on this.
Al Jarvis doesn't recall hearing this, so most likely it was only
the part of the crowd around the taper.
Setlist:
Monday Oct8
(No Encore)
*actually I can't remember the exact placement of Atmosphere.
Everything else OK.
Report of 10/8 from Johnathan Scott.
From: "Jonathan Scott"
The Glasgow gigs were absolutely fantastic - knocking the MCR gigs well into
second place (imho) - slightly diff. set than in MCR in that the set was a
little shorter but the bands performance was phenomenal.
Great to meet many Ceremony boys at the gigs including Deron from Boston who
came looking for me after the second show.
Last nights gig was slightly marred by the lack of an encore - something
that is being blown way out of proportion by local press & radio & sadly by
some greatly misinformed "fans". I was especially happy at last nights show
as although it was my last of any major tour, Hooky dedicated "Touched by
the Hand of God" to me anouncing that "this is for Kens mate Jonathan - He's
on the slippery slope to hell..." before Barney intro'd the song as "Touched
by the Hand of...the Promoter" an "in joke" that is best left untold on
these pages...
The party at MAS was a bit of a hoot with many of the old boys dancing like
loons to the sounds of tracks old and new and most notably The Happy Mondays
& Stone Roses.
(...)
Jonathan - FourFortyFive.
From: GalacCon
They didn't do an encore on Monday night. Local radio station, Radio Clyde
got lots of calls complaining. I heard some folk saying Hooky got spat at,
and Barney too much abuse as well, which put the band in a bad mood.
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:11:45
I have to say, I love seeing NewOrder in the UK. There seems to be
more camaraderie. More people know all the songs instead of just
the hits. When you're in the pit hopping around, everyone is
your Best friend. It's good fun!
So for the Monday night show we decided to chill further back
and just enjoy the sights and sounds. I'd already had the
ecstatic gig experience, so night #2 was just gravy.
It ended up having a very different feel to it from the beginning.
I don't know...the band wasn't into it? the crowd wasn't into it?
It was a Monday night so audience wasn't rested and amp'd like they
were on Sunday? Don't get me wrong, NO sounded fantastic!!
But they weren't joking around, there were fewer hands flying in the
air, fewer Bernard "whoops!" and general banter, etc.
It ended on a bit of a bad note, with no encore and a surly boo-ing
crowd.
I thought the show was still terrific, and all they were going to play
was blue monday, anyway. But it was definitely a down note, contrary
to the mile-high note of the night before. It might be interesting
to hear the different shows. Anyone record both?? :)
To top the weekend off, while I was waiting at the airport for my
flight, along walked Stephen Morris. What do you know! I gently
approached him looking picking out a book to read and chatted with
him for a while.
He had no idea (well he was going to tell) about what happened Mon
night. And about touring the US, he said "we'll see", though he said
they do like to play in CA (where I'm from and will be returning shortly).
So we just chatted a bit, I didn't want to impose too much. His
personal assistant had questions for him, etc. Unfortunately, didn't see
the others...
Though Arthur Baker was also in the airport, in fact he sat in the same
row as me on the plane from Glasgow to Heathrow, just across the aisle.
Of course I said hello to him, as well.
From http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038731&m=9514036241
Posted by FAC1000:
Speaking to PR Jonathon and Mass DJ Norman the news was one of the band
collapsed back stage when they came off after Transmission.
Setlist:
Crystal
Transmission
Regret
(encore)
Rock the Shack (with bobby gillespie)
Comments:
From: jo
owww my ears really hurt... here's what was played tonight, it was
bloody loud. And all the new songs were really distorted where I was
sat, whereas the older ones came across brilliantly
From: "spiky"
Bloody Bloody Loud!
Wasn't sure I was going to enjoy them after all this time, but a very
chirpy Bernard and a seriously posing Hook-meister made for a very memorable
set. I took 3 NO newbies along and they were as enthusiastic as the die
hards.
Roll on tomorrow night
Spiky
From: Andrew Balgobin
Seconded. ear-splitting stuff, but hooky's mannerisms and barney's chat
made for a very fine gig. the roof came off the place for LWTUA.
andrew
From: "Mark"
Well, no time for a review at the mo, but the sound mix was rough as
hell : Close Range sounded awful and all over the place (I didn't
recognise it) True Faith (The intro was near enough the same) and
Rock The Shack (just terrible full stop)
More later, see you all tonight, I swear I saw some listees there...
Mark
From: "Steve Waller"
For some reason I just knew Barney was going to do the countdown in
Temptation!
I agree with Dan's comments on the songs, Close Range didn't really
work, and to have dropped BM, TBTHOG and True Faith wouldn't have
concerned me.
I'd also almost forgotten Barney throwing his towel into the audience
and then asking for it back.
I quite like Turn My Way, so would've been pleased to hear that.
Absolutely nothing from Technique or Low Life either - sacrilege!
(he also goes on, in a seperate message...)
I agree with the others - sound was really awful at first - just like
a wall of guitars. It did get better though. I don't think I've ever
seen the band as chirpy, and to see Hooky roaming all over the place
was an oddity - think it even surprised Barney as he told him to go back
to his corner. Other good bits of banter were Barney admitting that 60mph
isn't really that fast, giving the crowd an introduction to the melodica,
and admitting they'd made a hash of RTS before (and promptly doing it
again). Liked the cheesy lights going with the colours in Temptation.
First time I've ever seen LWTUA or Transmission, so both made it
special.
They even had a female backing singer - whatever next - dancers?!!!
Someone remind me who introduced them? I know it's Alan something...
So, tonight would be great if we could have Dreams Never End or
Everything's Gone Green, but I think I may be disappointed!
One last thing - selling Technique t-shirts there?!! Was that
remaindered stock?
From: Daniel Butt
Agree about the sound, but it did improve, so you should be alright
tonight. Funny, cos normally the Academy's pretty good like that. I
couldn't hear much of what Barney was saying, but he was certainly
talkative. Have to get a boot and find out :) If I'm being
hyper-critical,
a couple of the bits of the set are sounding a bit over-familiar now,
TBTHOG and the Perfecto style True Faith in particular. I do think they
could do some reprogramming. Crystal and (to my slight surprise) 60MPH
were both fantastic, really rocking, and it's always great seeing NO do
a track for the first time. Ditto, of course, Your Silent Face, although
I wish now that I hadn't known they were going to play it. Still, one
of my favourite NO songs, and a real treat to hear it - and obviously
the same goes for Transmission. No "wooh!" after "we can dance", Michael!
In fact, the yelps seem to have an increasingly harder edge. Ceremony
and BLT were terrific some great riffs from the Hookmeister. Close Range
was pretty much a non-event - not my favourite song on the album, and
not a particularly good version. Wish they'd done Primitive Notion instead.
Still, gave me a chance for a breather. No "Turn My Way", thankfully.
Went off pre-encore with Barney saying something like "See you in another
15 years. Or maybe 15 minutes", which gave us a clue that we weren't going
to be in a Glasgow situation. I really enjoyed "Rock the Shack"! Barney
said they always cocked it up, and they did, although it was (allegedly)
Hooky's fault. Blue Monday was Blue Monday. "Barney: "There's one song
left. Now, which song haven't we played? It was a hit in 1981 or 2 or 3
or 4...") I really think they're wrong if they think they have to play it.
Imagine the rection if they did Perfect Kiss, or Procession, or, damnit,
Round & Round instead. Never mind - still good to see Hooky pounding
that drum thing and chucking his sticks into the audience.
Out of guilt of not paying him enough attention in the past, I spent a
goodly time watching Steve last night. The man is a legend. Many thanks
to the bizarrely mysterious benefactor who draped a (bootleg) T-shirt over
my shoulders as I was tying up a shoelace outside the front and then
disappeared. I'm wearing it now. No thanks to the absolutely-off-his-tits
goon at the front who flailed about like a drunken Cyberman, refused to
allow his legs to support his body and then had to pulled out the front
by the bouncers - only to reappear 3 minutes later. Moderate your intake,
my man.
(Chris Au says "hey, i was one of guys who helped lift him over the
barrier. he wasn't exactly impressed...")
Best moment - Temptation - Barney, "One, two, three, FOUR!"
Dan
From: Ashley Williams
They came on at 9:15 although it looked like it might be earlier but
seemed as if they were having probs with one of the bass amps (i think).
Finished at 10:50.
Tube strike starts at midnight tonight but service could be affected
earlier. Depending on where you need to get to (mainline) trains go
from Brixton to Victoria...tomorrow night should be more difficult...
(political rant deleted)
ash.
Quoting glenn cox :
>
From: "Sijad Malik"
they came on about 9.15 and finished about 11-ish. The tube strike
starts at midnight so you should be alright.
The sound was loud yesterday, but the vocals were way too low.
The new songs sounded shite and the audience didn't really respond,
though I thought RTS was quite good. best bit though was Temptation
followed by LWTUA, just amazing. I intend to get up at the front
2morro!
Transcription:
Alan Wise introduces. Recording is faded up.
AW: "...Arthur Baker. You won't guess who that was. That, my friends
was Arthur Baker. Just one, just one minute of your time before the
band come on. Because I want to tell you something about them that
will touch ya. These guys love music. These guys love music. Just
today, they came up to me they said, "Dad, we want you to come and
listen to this guy." And they took me to an old tramp in Brixton.
They said, "Just listen to the beautiful music he's singing." And,
listen, he was going, "My old mum's a dustman..." Which just shows
that those fucking cunts have got no taste. Welcome, the band formerly
known as Joy Division, NEW ORDER!"
Loud chants of NU ODAH NU ODAH NU ODAH.
BS: "Hello."
Hooky interrupts, can't make it out besides "You...". Bernard talks
over it.
BS: "Sorry about that, I ain't got a clue what he wants."
Weird high-pitched female voice says, "Stand on me...I wan't to see 'em!".
BS: "Okay..."
She whines and then says, "Oh, stop it!"
BS: "It's been a while since we've played in London. Probably
going back the region of fifteen years."
Female: "Fifteen years."
BS: "But believe you me, we've done some very interesting years in our
private time. Hooky's got into Acid, 'en. Phil's gotten into
bestiality. Stephen's gotten into the Beastie Boys."
_Crystal_
BS: "Anyway, this is Crystal."
Levels adjusted a bit downward at about 1:30. The woman continues to
scream as if she's getting crushed, it's a bit unpleasant to listen to.
BS: "Thank you! Thank you."
Weird female voice mutters in another language, sounds like Chinese.
_Transmission_
PH: "That's very kind, you're very kind. This one's for Jane tonight, it's
you're birthday, Jane. And we know what every girl wants on her
birthday. Phil."
At 2:39, Hooky yells out (off-mic): "C'mon, you gits!"
BS: "Thank you. That was a bit of a surprise, wasn't it?"
Fade-out at this point.
_Regret_
BS: "I must apologize in advance for the whiteness of my trainers. They're
not brand new, but they were a gift from Adidas [drum fill], our sponsors
[cymbal crash] this evening. Only joking, we don't resort to sponsorship.
Anyway, this is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
_Ceremony_
BS: "Thank you very much. This next one, there's a group of English people
that followed us around America recently on our tour when we supported
Moby and, erm, there's a lot of requests for Ceremony, and this is for
them."
A few seconds while they tune up a bit, and then they get right into it.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Wow, it's hot. You want a towel? I've not got any, anyone got one?
It's not...anyway...give it back when you've finished."
(this is where he throws his towel into the audience and then asks for
it back)
BS: Okay, this is...off our new album, it's called 60 Miles An Hour, it's
about not quite breaking the speed limit, but getting up close to it, because
we're all rebels, basically."
BS: "Thank you!"
BS mutters something, and then says, "Anyone got a towel?"
_Your___Silent___Face_
(original CD I have of this recording doesn't tracksplit here)
BS: "Okay, just to show that we're not about just throbbing guitars, this
song features a throbbing melodica. If you don't know what one of them
is, I'll show ya. This song is called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you."
_Atmosphere_ is missing from my version.
Edit at this point. Tape misses the first part of Bernard's introduction
for the following song.
_Close___Range_
BS: "...a little bit now with a song off our new album called Close Range."
(at end)
BS: "Yo!"
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
PH: (menacingly) "I know I'd fucking jump at you, you tight cunt!"
BS: "We're professionals...tune up...is the first thing. Okay, this is
Touched By The Hand Of God...and it's about...God."
Really good version.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "All I can see are these fucking trainers. Everybody need a little
room? I bought them in Glasgow two days ago. Had to do something while
I was warbling off. Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle, features Ayatollah
Hook on bass, Ayatollah Morris on keyboards."
Yes, this is what he actually said, it seems...unless someone can prove
me wrong.
BS: "Thank you!"
More loud shouts of NU ODAH NU ODAH...
_True___Faith_
BS: "You know, no matter how shit you get, it's nice to hear what a great
bunch of songs we're written. Don't know if that makes you feel any better,
but it certainly makes me feel better. And I'm not being [mutters] and this
is True Faith, and we're just start fe...the gigs(?)"
(need a bit of help with the last part)
Intro funk-style guitar part is wretched. Bernard says "Whoa!" and
people exclaim a bit...maybe he's dancing again.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Well, thought that was young pants for a minute, Hooky."
PH: "He shouted, he didn't even fight me for that, you noticed."
Somebody cries for Mr. Disco.
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation. No smart comments, nothing, just a
beautiful song."
BS: "Good night(?)!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Ready, Bernard. Tell me when."
BS: "Yeah, I'm ready, ready, ready.
PH: "Ok. No, you're wrong. 1-2-3-4!"
(probably directed at heckler, not Bernard)
Barney yells "Come on!!" about 1:45 into the track, and Hooky says
"Here we go!" about 2:12 in.
BS: "Thank you! See you again in fifteen years. More like fifteen
minutes." Fade out.
Fade in.
Some fiddling and tuning goes on before the Order start the encore.
Hooky says "Hey Hey", though it could have been Phil for all I know.
_Rock___The___Shack_
Humourously, the liner notes credit vocals to a "Billy Gillespie".
BS: "Yeah, please welcome...on stage with us, Bobby Gillespie from
Primal Scream. We're gonna do a song off our album which he's featured
on called Rock The Shack. We've played it six times, and fucked it up
every single time. Actually if you wanna spot it, his guitar solo in
the middle, let's give it another go. Here we go!"
And indeed they fuck up the intro.
BS: "Hang on...fucked up...whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. (can't make out
whatever is repeated twice after this) Peter, pay attention please!
I've gotta wait for you. Here we go, here we go again, start it,
here we go. It's punk."
I hold the minority viewpoint that this is the better of two collaborations
on the Get Ready album, but you probably wouldn't know it by listening to
this. :)
BS: "Yeah! Thank you. Bobby Gillespie, all the way from Scotland!"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, let's see, what song haven't we played yet? It was a
big hit in 1981...1982...1983...1984."
PH: "Let's go on, Bernard. Hahehehe."
BS: "This is Blue Monday."
Blue Monday is performed.
Really expressive instrumentation starting at the 5:30 point.
PH: "It's nice to be back, thank you. Good night, London(?)
We could play for all bloody night, we're still up for it."
Setlist:
Crystal
Transmission
Regret
(encore)
Ruined In A Day
Comments:
From: "spiky"
Well night No.2 and, if I'm not mistaken, even louder and better than
last night. Not as much banter tonight, but a fantastic atmosphere
(that's the ambience not the song!)
Set was same as last night except Rock the Shack was replaced with
Ruined in a Day.
I took some pix - if they're any good I'll post them somewhere - watch
this space.
If anyone wants to go tomorrow, the scalpers/touts are knocking tickets
out at pretty much face value, and there doesn't seem to be a shortage.
From: "spiky"
Last night "Apple" and "Pears"
Tonight "Heaven" and "Hell"
Who knows what mysticism Friday will bring!
Transcription
_Intro_
Alan Wise comperes.
AW: "You won't believe it, but the guy up there is Arthur Baker.
How we got these people, I don't know. I want to give a big thank-you
to Garlic, Garlic who performed before. Before I introduce to you
five guys who love their work, they love it, and they're here to
love it with you, they're called New Order!"
BS: "Okay, hello, we're New Order. As you know already. We'll
start the set tonight with _Crystal_.
Bit of a dropout at 4:55.
BS: "Thank you! Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.
Fans cheer out NU ORDAH, NU ORDAH...
BS: "If you bear with us, we're a little bit tired and emotional last
night. Well, forget the emotion. This is _Transmission_."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is called _Regret_."
Another dropout about 0:50 in, tape tracking issues.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, we're gonna hop back to the dark days of the past now.
This is probably one of the last songs we wrote as Joy Division,
and one of the very first songs we wrote as New Order. It's called
_Ceremony_."
Fans chant out again...
Thank you. This is going to be our new single, which will be found
on Top Of The Pops tonight. It's called...yes, we do have two jobs,
it's called _60___Miles___An___Hour_, or get if you know by phone."
(last phrase I can't fully parse)
BS: "Okay, just to chill you out a little bit noew, for my sake, we're
gonna play _Your___Silent___Face_."
Somebody yells out "Hooky" in a slightly muffled voice, dunno who.
BS: "Okay, we're going to keep it low-down and moody now...and then...
this is a song, my favorite song actually, _Atmosphere_."
Which they play.
BS: "We're gonna pick up the pace a little bit now, and uh, this is a
track off our new album Get Ready, it's called _Close___Range_."
Version of the song resembles the 'Dream On' demo more than the
rendition that ended up on the album, and is quite stirring.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is _Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_"
(after)
BS: "That sound should be called 'Fucked' cuz, erm, cuz what have
they asked us for, not to mention our manager. Peter, wait till
after. He's got bored with me then."
BS: "Right, this is _Bizarre___Love___Triangle_"
(after)
BS: "Thank you!"
Some guitar noodling between tracks.
BS: "Okay, anyone know what we're gonna play next. One at a time,
please. This is _True___Faith_."
BS: "Thank you. Do you know...we've played, we played how many gigs
this week, Hooky? we played fucking six gigs this week, and we've never
gotten the end of that song right. You know what, it's always my
fault. It is."
PH: "Everything's always your fault."
BS: "Okay. [Hooky laughs] Anyway, we'll make sure we get the end of
this one right. This is _Temptation_."
People "oh, oh oh oh" during the verses.
I like to introduce, from Clingham, our new guitarist. Dawn Zed, there
she is, and my new, shiny new Adidas trainers. I always buy Adidas,
er, ok, whenver I go out. I find them exteremely comfortable [cymbal
crash], and since I've taken up jogging, they're the ones to run in.
[kick drum]. Not that I...feel anything. Anyway...what were we doing?
Oh, yeah, we're playing a set, aren't we. This is
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_.
PH: "We're joined by the lovely Dawn, c'mon Dawn, take a bow."
BS: "C'mon, don't be shy, Dawn."
PH: "Woooo! Get right into it, let's fucking go. 1-2-3-4!"
They perform the JD classic.
BS: "Thank you. You're a great audience. Sorry we're a little bit
fucked, but we are. Thank's a lot, you've been great!"
Hooky ends on a two-note bass vamp.
A couple of cuts during the pre-encore bit, and then a fade-out and
fade-in to the home stretch.
PH: "(I bet?) you've got thirty years in Glasgow and gotten away with
it, eh. No, fuck you, you Cockney bastards."
BS: "Oh yeah, yeah...Okay, one two one two. You want your bloody
money's worth free(?)...don't you?"
A bit of guitar soundchecking.
BS: "Okay, this is _Ruined___In___A___Day_."
(at end)
BS: "Yeah! All right, from Ruined In A Day to _Blue___Monday_. Do you
get it? Ruined In A Day. Blue Monday. Dead funny. Dead real funny.
I thought."
Bernard yells out something I can't make out at 6:25 of this.
Setlist:
Crystal
Transmission
Regret
(encore)
Ruined In A Day
From: "Al Jarvis"
Everything's Gone Green!
Sadly, though it was just Arthur Baker doing the 2 former tracks, and
Hooky giving us 45 second soundbites of the latter 2, Age of Consent at
the end of the set, Dreams Never End at the end of the encores. Teasing
little minx, that he is.
As for New Order, it was just a runthrough by numbers again last night.
Yawn.
From: Andrew Balgobin
just got back from the gig. rough sounding to start with, improved
immensely thereafter. magic moment - barney and hooky's handshake after
a storming true faith.
GaoBest comments:
> That seems to be what people say about almost all NO gigs; why does this
> always happen with them? It felt the same at Shoreline.
Chris Au replies:
> they seemed to be having more trouble tonight than have the last two
> nights.
> barney kept signalling to someone that they were too loud.
A longer, much longer review
From: "Dave Stephenson"
Oich oich evil listees.
Brixton Academy on Friday the 12th then.......
It was my 4th New Order gig (Reading, Ally Pally and Liverpool being the
other 3) but my girlfriend's 1st. And she was pretty excited about the
whole thing in a way whcih made Beatlemania look tame. It took us 5 hours
to get from Birmingham to Brixton - mainly due to spending a total of 1 hour
in various service stations and hitting London at half past four. And as
for the last little leg round the academy - that'll be 200 yards on 45
minutes then!
But, with car safely parked in the multi storey car park and eyes overdosed
on people falling off skateboards, off we trotted to the front steps of the
academy. After 4 years I finally managed to meet up with Chris Au who, by
all accounts, is an all round top bloke. Off we headed to a local hostelry
where I suddenly realised that I had been transported into an episode of
late 80's Channel 4 sitcom Desmond's. After watching the pub fill up with
both types of New Order fans (spotty students and football hooligans),
hearing the words "Jonathan Scott" far too often and with Candice
"entertaining" random old men with her drunken dancing (she hadn't eaten
bless her) we decided to make the short hop skip and jump over to the main
hall.
OK, so it was 2 hours until New Order were due to go on stage but we did get
to listen to a band called "Haven" (I think) who were "OK" and then we got
Arthur Baker "mixing". Ahhhh, now I expect you're all sat there going "no
you young fool - he wasn't supposed to be mixing like they do in Gatecrasher
and places - go and eat a piece of wood and behave" but I was personally
impressed with AB. Because he managed to build up a fantastic atmosphere
through his choice of rekkids. Candice and I arsed about with some
"hilariarse" hard house dancing while Thieves Like Us was played and a whole
host of "Wow - I haven't heard this record since I was this high" type stuff
came on. Our apologies to Chris for making it look like you were standing
with two spazmongs.
Anyhooooooo. After far too long a wait (it was half 9 by the time they
arrived) New Order took the stage and so began the best gig I've seen them
play. Not because it was technically brilliant or because the renditions
of the songs they did were better than usual - it was just the fact that
they were enjoying themselves so much. Candice did in fact behave like a
12 year old girl at a Westlife concert. Now, I'm no expert on these
matters but I find it quite disturbing that a 25 year old woman swoons at a
fat sweaty old man. But swoon she did and jumped around like Zebbedee when
60MPH, TBTHOG and True Faith made an appearance. We managed to make a
small hole for ourselves in front of the dividing railings between the stage
and the mixing desk so we had a good view whilst still being able to
breathe.
Crystal is a fantastic opening song. BUT if you are going to open with it
you need to take out the intro piano. It just needs to open with that
guitar assault. Cos that's why Regret works so well to start off with -
instant audience connection. Atmosphere was majestic as ever (although
Candice finds JD depressing and so pretended to hang herself. I don't
think that went down too well with the JD fans behind us!) and Transmission
rocked. Close Range was also also a belter. Now there came a small
problem though. Earlier in the gig we'd lost Chris who'd run off to the
front so that he could get battered and bruised in the infamous New Order
mosh pit. Fortunately he arrived back at our little haven of space as
Temptation came on. There was I, admiring the cheesey blue / green / grey
eyes lighting, bouncing like a mad loon and singing along at the top of my
little voice when *BOSH* - goodnight Vienna. A lack of food, two pints of
lager, no water intake and the heat made me pass out like a big girls
blouse. No, it wasn't the sight of Hooky's trousers. Honest. So,
there's me lying on the floor in the middle of a few hundred people and
Candice is trying to pick me up. After about 30 seconds I come round and
stand up. "Right" I say. "Lets get to the side so I can get some air"
And off we trundle when *WHOOMPF* down I go again. Yes, I really am that
shandy arsed. If it wasn't for Mr. Au being there then I'd have spent the
rest of the gig on the floor cos I was literally out cold and NO-ONE was
helping at all. Candice said afterwards that the people around us just
went "oh look, he's fainted", turned round and kept on moshing. But Chris
and Candice managed to haul my carcass to the side and bring me round.
There are benefits of going out with a nurse!
Security came and let us outside for a bit which gave me some air and woke
me up again. So back in we went just in time for the encore. Anyways,
*HUGE* thanks to Chris for your help - from both of us. Much apologies for
interrupting the gig for you and if there is any damage to your funky
flashing shirt from me being a heavy twunt to carry then let me know and
I'll send you a cheque. Hope you got home OK as well - would have loved to
give you a lift but it would have added an extra couple of hours to our
journey - evil London traffic! We didn't get back until 4:30 anyway! Was
great to finally actually meet you in person - and we'll have to do it again
sometime. Especially if you know people up in Shrewsbury - the
entertainment capital of England ;-P.
The gig was fantastic though. Gillian and Kim dancing along behind the
rest of em as well. And it looks to me that New Order are enjoying
themselves so much that there's at least one more album in them. *Fingers
crossed*
Fainting Jack
The intro to this gig comes to you from Alan Wise. I was able to
match it to this night due to the writing on the monitor stacks.
(from audience recording)
AW: "...no fucking microphone. I can't believe that that's Arthur
Baker up there, everyone. Arthur Baker, a round of applause. Arthur
baker, the producer. How do we get people like that?"
(the video version starts here)
AW: "Many years ago, I met four young boys, and one young girl. Who
had their owns minds they wanted to do it their way. They wanted to do
it differently than everyone else. And they came to me and said, "Al,
can you help us?". Ha. And now they've done three nights here, and if
they could, they'd like to do another six. But can someone, someone
tell them where else they can play? Just send a message in to their
agent. I want to introduce to you a band that used to be known as,
you all know this, used to be called Joy Division, you all know it!
And now they got a new name, yeah, they're now called, welcome on
stage, those fabulous guys from...New Order!"
BS: "What was all that about, then? I don't understand what he was
saying. Hallo. We are New Order. And we're going to play for
you tonight a set that's gonna make you jump up and down. Starting
with _Crystal_."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
_Transmission_
PH: "Thank you. I want to dedicate this one to my daughter, she's
three today. God bless her!"
BS: "Thank you. I'd like to dedicate that to Pete Tong as well,
whose been a big help up here. Nice one, Pete."
Chants for New Order...
BS: "All right, I'm knackered now. Can we go off?"
Hooky mumbles something I can't make out while Bernard's speaking.
BS: "Can't wait until...[mumble]...a break, young cunt!"
PH: (interrupting again) Eh, John Sims is in the house, Johnny!
Get up, Johnny or what, give 'em a break, you old codge."
BS: "I can't wait for the slow ones. All right, this is _Regret_."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
_Ceremony_
BS: "Eh, I got a bit more energy tonight, thank God. I apologize
for the game last night, it was all my fault. Actually, it was all
Bobby Gillespie's fault. Okay, this is Ceremony.
PH: "I'd just like to, eh...24/7 party people..."
BS: "Thank you!"
All right, oh fuck, we dropped down again. Well, I was just going
to introduce you to Phil, our new guitarist, but I've just decided
to sack him! [drum] What you looking at, Roger? You fucking sack
[won't us]?"
PH: "You're not careful, we'll all sack you..."
Bernard ignores him.
BS: "So give him one more chance. All right, it's Phil Cunningham
actually. Used to be in a band called Marion. [guitar] Okay, this
is off our new album. I'm sure my record company would like to
announce that it'll be our new single. Hopefully, you'll all buy
it. It's called _60___Miles___An___Hour_."
BS: "I Was gonna suggest that all the people up there get up and
move around, but we're gonna play a slow one now, so we'll save
it 'till later."
More chants of New Order...which Bernard reacts to.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "That's a horrible tune you know you sing. Can't you think
of a better tune? Like New OrDEH! This is Your Silent Face."
At the 2:30 point, Bernard exclaims, "C'mon Hooky[?] [can't make out,
delivered in a growl-type voice]" to what I presume must be somewhat
deficient playing.
Some strumming at the end, and the sound of a guitar lead getting
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Well, a small technical problem up here, so please bear with
us for a few seconds while we work it out. We're a very professional
group, with a very professional set of roadies which are currently
working on the problem. There you go! Okay, this is Atmosphere."
PH: "One, two, three, four..."
Tape edit at this pint.
_Close___Range_
BS: "This is a fast song off our new album, it's called Close Range."
Tape dropout at about 1:35 or so.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Oh, it's got a bit hot now, innit. It's very hot for the time of
year. It's October, you know. Being from Manchester, we're not
used to the sort of sunny weather you get down here in London."
BS: "Okay, this is...eh, yeah, let's tune up.
PH: "Where's [can't make out]... So civilized, unlike you fuckers."
BS: "All right, _Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_."
Long pause at end.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Fucking hell, it's hot. Then again, I'm a right moaning
bastard. Okay, are you ready chaps? Okay, this is Bizarre
Love Triangle."
Initial bass note is discongruously loud.
Some piano tinkles.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, I like...I'd like to dedidcate...another dedication, there's
lots tonight. I'd like to dedicate this song to John Sims, who is
playing me in the film 24 Hour Party People. Actually, not to him but
to his new, erm, little boy Ryan. C'mon, give it a bit! Will ya?
Three, ya, you've got two. Just wait until the end, it's just started
All right, ok. True Faith."
(at end)
BS: "It's the first time we've ever gotten the fucking end of that song
right. Well, I get it right every night, but they fuck it up every night.
Whoa."
BS: "Any Manchester United fans here?"
Initial cheers, than loads of boos.
Hooky laughs.
BS: "You're just fucking jealous (of us), aren't you? All right,
this is _Temptation_."
Okay, well...hope you're having a good a time as I am. Trying to
think of something witty to say [something], but couldn't. Anyway,
this is, erm, going to be our last song, I'm afraid...and it's
Love Will Tear Us Apart.
BS: "When you're ready Hooky, when you're ready. I've only waited
two [somebody talks at the same time]...one two THREE FOUR!"
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, and thanks for waiting for so long and standing
by us. You're a great bunch of fans, I mean that!"
Hooky ends things with a two note melody that persists for a while...
and then he plays the bassline to Age Of Consent! Everybody claps
along.
PH: "Only joking, you miserable Cockney cunt."
Punter around the taper yells out "Wanker".
_Rock___The___Shack_
BS: "Hooky's still there, is he? Has anyone got any deodorant, it's
a bit hot up here. Andrew [something], if I fuck up this guitar, you're
in trouble, mate. Okay, we're gonna challenge you a little bit with a
very rocky song called Rock The Shack."
Hooky comes up with a bassline otherwise not heard in the song.
BS: "'ank you!"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, okay. Now we've deafened you with all those noisy guitars,
we're going to groove you with some noisy bass drums. This is Blue
Monday."
BS: "Thank you, you've been fucking great. So have we. Or pretty good."
Hooky then plays the bassline to Dreams Never End, initially playing
it on the wrong fret. And then he plays something else, quite a
lovely melody that I can't place....but it eventually starts cutting
out. I find that these are the highlights of the show.
From: "spiky"
Opened with storming Crystal, followed by an ok Regret and closed with a
great 60mph and a crowd pleasing LWTUA.
Briefly interviewed with nothing hugely interesting said, but a clip of
them performing Blue Monday live on Top of the Pops in 1983 (nice haircuts
guys!)
Quick interview with Jeremy Vine who interviewed them in The Big Issue
in August, and John Simms who plays Barney in the 24 Hour Party People
movie. Bernard or Hooky shouted out that they gave the movie 6 out of 10.
Have recorded on VHS - will encode relevant parts to MPEG1 if anyone's
got some webspace to host it for all to enjoy. Contact me privately if so.
TTFN
Spiky
Transcription. Not very exciting.
Crystal
BS: "Thank you!"
Regret
BS: "Regret" (can't quite make this out)
60 Miles An Hour
BS: "Thank you!"
LWTUA
BS: "'ack you very much, we'll play one more song for you tonight,
which is an all-time favorite for us. It's a Joy Division song, called
Love Will Tear Us Apart."
The last part of the performance is marred by rolling credits.
BS: "Thank you! Thanks a lot!"
Some mentions on the Ceremony list:
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Antoine's
account:
Crystal
(encore)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:43:17 +0100
(...)
Emmm. WONDERFUL Paris gig.
(...)
Encore was Rock The Shack, Ruined In A Day, "Blue Fucking Monday" as
Bernard
N21
> http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/iv/851210-barney_speaks_french.mp3
>
Don't have time right now, I gotta get a new bone-breaking session
tonight. They came onstage with Barney going like : "Je m'appelle
New Order, Je m'appelle Bernard, Je m'appelle Pierre, Je m'appelle
Stephane, Je m'appelle Phil Cunningham, Jem'appelle Crystal." -
also I was right in front of Bernard, like 2nd or 3rd row,
+with me head emerging from the whole audience (1m90) and bernard
staring at me in the eyes during two third of the gig, finally
pointing at me and admitting he never looked at me in a sexual
way in his life before :op
Just before Transmission, he mocked at a guy wearing some bootleg Joy
Division Tshirt, asking some guys where they were from ("Scotland",
they shouted) and asking them what they wanted the band to play "no
no we don't play Age Of Consent anymore..." Favorite bit was True Faith
(with some additional Barney guitar riffs during the intro) and weakest
moment was Bizarre Love Triangle cos I thought the song was slowed down
a bit (in fact it seemed the whole set was slowed down), Bizarre Love
Triangle, being one of my favorites, was not at its highest musical
potential. Hook stayed for a minute or so at the end of LWTUA, playing
bass for the song, the crowd chanting the chorus. Nice. At the encore,
Bernard came back with his coat on, tlling the crowd he was ready to leave
already, some roadie took his coat off, and then, as he was finishing
with the synth bits during Blue Monday, the roadie put his coat on as
he was still playing, and then he just left. It seems to me the set
was beautifully rendered, it looks like they didn't fucked up one song
at all. The beginning of the show was a bit injuring, everybody got
crushed, I thought I couldn't stand it really. It went quieter during
Your silent Face and Atmosphere, thank god :o)
Rock The Shack, despite being nicely played, didn't seem to gain much
interest from the audience. But all in all the band wasn't very talkative.
Hook performed his whole old floor-sweeping bass routine.
From: "Mike Serieys"
Like, wow.
Right in front of Hooky throughout, who was regularly looking straight
at me. My yells throughout of 'C'mon Hooky' were probably something to
do with it, but still. Was hoping to get the drumstick, but he inexplicably
gave it to someone in front of Barney.
Amusing bits as follows:
Anyway, just wish I could afford to go tonight, but hell, there's always
France Inter.
My second NO concert, and definitely better than the last one.
Ciao,
Mike
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Antoine's
account:
Crystal
(encore)
Report from gig by Antoine:
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:50:30 +0100
Was too lazy to turn the computer on when back home, to give you
tids'n'bits about my bithday gig. Nov, 12th, that is. So here they
are.
Same same same same. Not as good as sunday's gig.
Your silent face BEFORE Atmosphere, not AFTER.
What about a change, Bernard. Noticed most of the audience weren't
huge huge fans. Some came here to see some 80's band perform. A
french guy said "see you in 14 years !" - a Brit fellow said "Sack
Phil, he's pants"
Bernard introduced TBTHOG as a song to calm things a bit down.
(WAHAHAHA) Some french twat spoiled me fun complaining about me
bouncing way too much (hell where does he think he was in ? a tea
room ? There were seats over at the balcony, you c*nt !)
Encore was RTS, RIAD, BM. Bernard introducing Blue Monday as Fucking
Blue Monday, played 5.000 times... bla bla. I mean if they don't want
it played, they shouldn't play it.
Fave bit was True Faith, again. Love that guitar. Weakest was BLT. Pah.
Introduced Phil in the middle of the gig, and then saying again, as on
sunday "je m'appelle Bernard, je m'appelle Chtophen" (hey we are in
France, not germany, bernard) "je m'appelle Hooky !"
I'm glad they took over that big fat bastard. Man, this guy should be
topic of a documentary. This time, he came with Bananas over his
shoulder, he's had the same jacket and pants for years, he came with
a girl he must have annoyed backstage, she was here to translate.
"they're not the rolling stones, they're not bananas, they fucking
new order !"
Hook doesn't even smile a bit - Phil is a good guitarist really. Steve
was mostly surrounded by smoke and the lights. Couldn't see him easily
from down the front. Hook stayed to perform a couple of notes more from
LWTUA, and Bernard came to turn off his bass amp. Bernard spotted reading
lyrics from the monitors during Your Silent Face. Someone asked for the
"Kiss Of Death" - Bernard wasn't too pleased to hear my request for
"Vivid". :p
Something I noticed. I looked at Bernard's mouth during Temptation cos
that old topic came to my mind... [...] from above hurt/hit/whatever
the people down below. I looked at what he was saying, and I tend to
think it was a V. As in Volts.
Gig was not as good. Bernard enjoyed I think, but I found it was a bit
difficult at the beginning... I don't know.
>> The setlist is the same as yesterday, there will be 1 song less in
>> the encore... Probably RTS or RIAD, since they always play Blue
>> Monday...
So the encore was a three song set, really. RTS, RIAD, BM.
Also, yes there was some altercation between some british fellow
and Hooky - I think Bernard indeed said something to the extent
of "we'll send you president bush"
N21
"Sabine's lover" confirmed that Gillian was backstage during this
consert, and that parts of this concert were broadcast over FM.
And...
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:18:50 +0100
> Ally said:
BWAHAHA. Actually, that was on Monday, i was a bit disappointed
that I thought I could piss Bernard off a bit. Vivid was the only Electronic
song that came to my mind so it could be easily heard as a short single
word. Bernard ignored it, but I saw at his face he wasn't too pleased...
Pah !
Writeup
I had two tracks on MP3 probably mastered from the FM broadcast.
"Ceremony" and "Fucking Blue Monday". The Ceremony track has some
French announcer saying a few words at the end. Throw in Transmission
and Atmosphere as well.
I've since gotten the whole set (CD of the FM broadcast) There's also a
very rare French promo with the entire soundboard also in existence)
_Crystal_
BS: "Bonjour. That's what I'm going to show you now. Supposed to be in
Paris at the end. One two one two one two. Okay, We're going to start off
the set tonight with a song off our new album, it's called Kristal"
(Bernard pronounces the song title like a french word)
BS: "Thank you! Merci Beaucoup."
French announcers talk at this point.
_Transmission_
BS: "We're going to continue with a...a very old song of ours by
Joy Division. It's called Transmission."
This one sounds huge. Lots of feedback.
As the song ends, the announcers chatter.
Barney whoops.
Bs: "It's a lot hotter than last night."
_Regret_
BS: "This is Regret."
Audio distorts here. This happens at a couple other points in the
broadcast.
_Ceremony_
What sounds like an edit between the last track and this one.
BS: "Thank you!"
_60___Miles___An___Hour_ (at the end of Ceremony)
The MP3 version has this:
BS: "Okay, we're gonna get things, erm, a bit more contemporary with our...
this is, eh, 60 Miles An Hour from our new one."
(wonder if this is from the previous night)
The CD of the FM broadcast has this:
Okay, this is a track off our new album and it's called 60 Miles An Hour."
BS: "Thank you."
French announcer talks. Very annoyingly, he talks over Bernard making
the following a bit difficult to make out.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "This is (stress us?). Okay we're going to slow things down a little
bit now. Eh, This is a very old song called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you."
_Atmosphere_
(French transcription is probably very off, I know)
BS: "I hope you're enjoying yourselves. Eh, tripping up. Eh, je ne paux
Bernard, je ne paux Stephan, Je ne paux Hooky. [Hooky says a couple of words
but is interrupted]
BS: "Forturnately, I can't speak any better French than that, except,
eh, 'voules voux [couple of words] si vous ples' This is Atmosphere!"
PH: "Alex! Alex [name-ends in 'enberg']...wherever you are, this is for you.
1-2-3-4!"
BS: "'k you!"
More French announcer chatter, again talking over Bernard.
_Close___Range_
BS: "Now we're gonna play a very contemporary-sounding New Order one here...
this is a song called Close Range."
BS: "Thank you, merci beaucoup."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Thank you very much. Okay, ...say we'll play another song for a little
bit because... [can't make out rest of sentence due to the damn annoucers]...
but we're not going to, we're going to play a song called Touched By The
Hand Of God."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Thank you. This is the last song before... [again, can't make out
due to the damn announcers]"
PH: [can't make out due to announcers]
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
They play BLT.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Thank you. We're having(?) a lot harder time than the the audience.
Why don't you all want us to play next. True Faith? All right, then
you've got it."
_Temptation_
BS: "Thank you. You having a good time? We're having a fucking great time. And
we are in need of Bez(?) in time for the party after the show. I can assure you.
Just cuz we [two words] we can tune up please. In the past I noticed it's very
professional in the past we would have done it but not tonight...it's extra."
PH: "Asshole."
BS: "Fucking others in tune. Must be Phil fucking up here. Okay, this is
Temptation."
They play Temptation.
BS: "Thanks a lot. Thank you very much."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Very nice acoustic-type intro to this one. The announcers on the FM
version proceed to talk all over it, bah. Barney yells "Come on!"
about 3:12 in (3:42 on the FM version).
BS: "Thank you very much! You've been a fucking great audience.
It's great to be back in Paris. It's a beautiful city, and you've
been a beautiful audience. Thank you everyone!"
Before the track cuts out, the French announcer on the FM broadcast
says "It's fucking New Order". (not present on the FM version, though)
Haha. The announcers greet Barney and Hooky, who come backstage.
Barney expresses his surprise that they're recording.
_Blue___Monday_
Here's Bernard's intro, which is going in the quotes file:
BS: "It's a fucking Blue Monday. I dread the day we ever fucking wrote
it. Played it five thousand times. I never liked it in the first fucking
place (at this point, Bernard is breaking down in giggles)...no, it's
fantastic."
(the concert was played on a Monday)
The keyboard intro sequence gets flubbed. And the vocals are pretty
flat, or alternate into the sort of singing he does on Get Ready.
But the instrumentation at the end is a bit different than normal,
and the quality here is superb.
About 3:30 in Barney starts talking to somebody. What about?
BS: "Hi, Andy. How are you? Ball's at a soft spot here, you know."
Barney sings the 'now I stand here waiting' part repeating waiting, as
if it was being echoed.
And as things finish up:
BS: "Thank you! You've been fucking great! Thank you!"
Ends in feedback.
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Nicholas
LeBlanc's message to Ceremony:
Crystal
(encore)
From ESPN (info sent by Robert L.):
Sumner stuns Berliners with 1966 taunt
Bernard Sumner shocked fans at a concert in Berlin this week (Nov
15th) when he dedicated a song to David Beckham and taunted them about
the 1966 World Cup final.
Sumner, lead singer of New Order, was greeted by cheers when he welcomed
Germany's qualification for next year's finals - they beat Ukraine in a
play-off on Wednesday.
But those cheers soon turned to boos when he reminded the German crowd
how England had beaten them 4-2 in the 1966 final.
'You didn't win in 1966,' quipped Sumner, an avowed Manchester United
fan, before bassist Peter Hook intervened to assure the outraged
audience that Sumner was only joking.
But memories of their one-sided, 5-1 defeat by England in a World Cup
qualifying match in Munich in September were clearly still raw for many
in the audience.
Introducing the band's hit song 'Touched by the hand of God', Bernard
Sumner said: 'This song is dedicated to David Beckham - touched by the
foot of God'.
Any bad feelings, though, were quickly forgotten as the Manchester band,
best known for their hits 'Blue Monday' and 'True Faith', put in a
storming performance.
Happily for Anglo-German relations, New Order did not play 'World in
Motion', the song they wrote with Keith Allen for England's World Cup
soccer campaign in 1990.
Transcription
summary: overall, an outstanding performance with excellent sound
one of the best of the modern era.
_Crystal_
BS: "Of course we are New Order. Hello, Berlin! I'm sorry it's been
so long since we played here last. It's not your fault, I assure you.
It's, eh, nobody's fault. But hopefully, we're going to make up for it
tonight and play a great set of songs, starting with Crystal."
(Barney strums guitar once or twice though this mini-speech)
BS: "Thank you!" (bass strum) "Thanks a lot. It's really good to
be back here. Seriously."
_Transmission_
PH: "Here we go."
BS: "Okay, this is a song by Joy Division called Transmission."
Bernard (slightly) flubs the opening guitar intro.
Funny to hear Bernard yell "and we can daaaaaaaaaaaaanceeeee!".
BS: "Thank you. Danke schun."
_Regret_
BS: [sigh-squeals] "Okay, we're gonna return now with something a
little bit more contemporary, from 1993 anyway, that's contemporary
for us. This is Regret."
_Ceremony_
BS: "Thank you! No, we're not playing Blue Monday tonight, Peter
doesn't want to play it. I do, but he doesn't, so..."
PH: "You know what I say fucking goes!"
Good rendition, ends in guitar rattle.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Thank you! Okay, having a good time, everyone having a good
time? Great. So are we. Sounded oh so sincere though, didn't it?
Anyway, this is 60 Miles An Hour off our new album, Get Ready.
Oh yeah, it's our new single as well. I'm sure the record company
would like us to say that, and on behalf of them, I do."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Thank you very much. Okay, we're gonna chill things out a
little bit now because we're, we're all getting a bit carried away
ourselves as well, and eh, yeah. This is called Your Silent Face,
which was very influenced by Kraftwerk."
BS: (later on in the intro) "Think of Bavaria."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Thank you. Also thought that was a German-sounding tune, I
dunno why. And this one is a very English-sounding tune, it's called
Atmosphere, it's a Joy Division song."
PH: "What if we scream at your pub. 1-2-3-4."
(is that what he's really saying?)
NO play the JD chestnut.
BS: "Thank you. we'd like to dedicate that one to, erm, a very
good old friend of ours, who was Ian Curtis. Rest in peace, Ian,
rest in peace."
_Close___Range_
BS: "Back to our new album, this is a track off it called Close Range."
Very good rendition, better than the LP version.
Skip at 4:31 on my CD copy.
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Thank you. I'm fucked. I'm fucked, but we're gonna play another
one of those jump up and down songs. And it's about an English
footballer called Davey Beckham. (cheers turn to boos). Have we
got any England fans here tonight? Only joking, only joking! Listen,
Germany won last night, so you'll get your own back in the World Cup,
I'm sure. But remember, we beat you in 1966, which wasn't so long
ago." (more booing)
PH: "He's only joking."
BS: "All right, I'm only joking. This is Touched By The Foot of God."
Cracking good version.
BS: "Thank you. I'm so polite, aren't I. I say 'Thank you' at the
end...end of every song. That's cuz I'm glad it's over. Only joking!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, you notice that I do not have a guitar for this song.
Can you guess what song it's going to be? I take that as a 'no'
then (laughs). This is, eh, Bizarre Love Triangle. It's about
a re...a...a relation me and Hooky and our wives had. It was
very bizarre."
lyric: "I feel fine, I feel good...I feel like a piece of wood."
BS: "Merci beucoup. (grunts) Listen, Phil. That was only a fucking
joke right, don't get any ideas right, you're not my type (cymbal crash,
good one Steve!) At the moment."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay what songs you want to hear next. It's up to you.
(folks shout out whatever) Sorry, what? (more shoutouts for
whatever) I think you're saying 'True Faith', so this is True Faith.
If you think the audience has a lead on selecting which songs
New Order will play, you're even more deluded than the punters
in Berlin.
Very good guitar intro here.
PH: "Tell you what. I'm fucking warm but you must be boiling. Because
you got your fucking coat on, I can't believe it."
PC: "coat on?"
BS: "Hooky, there's no need to swear, you know. I must apologize for
Peter's foul language, you'll never hear me fucking swearing like that.
Okay *sighs* okay, just having a breather. I'll tell you what, I just
gotta tune the guitar up...someone's just been stabbed?"
PH: "Very important, tuning, I hope you have the competence for it."
BS: "I know how to tune guitars up."
PH: "In Manchester, if we don't tune them, we ain't performing."
BS: "Okay, I'm in tune. You in tune, Hooky?"
PH: "I am in tune, Bernard, yes."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PC: "Thank you."
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is the last song we're afraid, but it's a cracker."
Has acoustic guitar opening. Hooky SCREAMS out, "Let's go!", with
Bernard "C'mon"'ing the audience at least three times before Hooky
belts out a "Here we go!" at the bridge.
BS: "Thank you very much! You've been a fucking great audience.
It's the Berlin, you've been fucking great."
_Rock___The___Shack_
BS: "We, we never ever ever do encores, but on this one evening we'll
make an exception. We did, well we did in Paris as well and London
and Manchester. Okay, we're gonna start with a ve...a very, guitar-based
song, and we're gonna finish with a synthesizer-based song just to show
our virtuosity. Okay, this is Rock The Shack."
A very good rendition. Hooky does backing vocals. No Gillepse to
sing the second verse.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Thank you. All right, for those of you who don't guitars, this
is called Blauer Montag."
Wow, this sounds really really good. Has a sample of the old vocoder
lines in it, too.
There's a brief cut at 1:33 that I think was put out by the broadcast,
as all known copies seem to have it.
Bernard "hey, heys" shortly before 2:00, and whistles at about 2:08.
And this from TJ:
BS: "Naked saunas.....marching music......"
From webcast of this concert (224k RealVideo)
100 minutes!
A fan says that despite the official reports, the Order's
performance was, after the first few songs, sloppy and
error-ridden. I tend to agree with this assessment.
In other words, this is a classic performance. If I wanted
pitch perfect renditions, I'd just stick to the records.
I also have a CD, that may have been taken from a lossy source
(maybe from the webcast stream). This version cuts out much
of Bernards between-song dialogue, which is a shame.
The encore features a slight change, with Ruined In a Day
appearing -after- Blue Monday, as the last song.
Transcription
_Crystal_
BS: "Sorry to keep you waiting, but we're only 20 minutes late.
We played in Berlin last night, and we made the unfortunate
mistake of going to a nightclub. So we're a bit tired and a
bit emotional, but we'll do our best for you. This is Crystal."
Bernard waves and kisses to somebody out in the audience before
going into the opening riff. I guess he's replaced his woo's
with yelled "whaoas" and "heys". Hooky gets into it as well,
too...one of the more emotional and energetic performances of
this soon-to-be-classic that I've heard. A whistle near the
end, too.
BS: "Thank you! Thank you very much."
_Transmission_
Bernard almost makes it through the opening riff without a
mistake. ;-) Hooky's vocals are very prominent during the
chorus. And Stephen Morris is still the hardest-working
drummer in rock.
BS: "Danke schun. Of course, that was about Radio Angst live.
My favorite radio station, Radio Angst...and uh, my favorite
trainers, Adidas trainers, they're gone at the moment...
not that we're sponsored by anyone, but eh, I just really
like 'em. (guitar strum) Okay, we're gonna bring, erm, that
was a Joy Division song. (turns to backstage, says 'feedback')
All but 'danke schun' are missing from the CD version I have.
_Regret_
BS: (continues): "That was a Joy Division song called Transmission,
I'm getting a lot of feedback up here...but this is a New Order
song called Regret."
NO play Regret.
BS: "Thank you. (guitar strum) You having a good time?
Surprisingly, we've having a good time. We've been on tour for
a whole week now, and I'll tell you it's taking it out of us.
(turns to his right and says "hasn't it?") Even Phil."
(by 'it' does he mean "a lot"...I suppose so)
_Ceremony_
The camera pays an unusual amount of attention to Phil C.
Hooky vocals pretty loud during the chorus here as well.
Bernard flubs the first couple of notes during the solo.
Otherwise, very good version....
BS: "Thank you! Jerry, can you set...ehm, give me more sound?
Danke schun."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: (continues): "Okay, this is a track off our new album,
it's called "60 -Kilometers- Per Hour. (drums...few seconds pause)
1 2."
Hooky rolls up his sleeves as Bernard starts singing.
After he finishes out the tune with some guitar F/X, Barney
pumps his fist up in the air and screams "Yeah!"
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "'ank you. All right, we're gonna kill it down a little bit
not, a bit less time...a lower octane of song, ehm, we're gonna
play a song off eh...Power, Corruption, and Lies...eh, think it's
that's right, Steve?...Power, Corruption, and Lies...called
Your Silent Face."
Of course, Phil handles the keyboard part for that one, quite
admirably. Bernard's melodica is ok too. ;-) I think Hooky
almost was going to play his part a bit early... During this
song, you can clearly see that Bernard is wearing earplugs,
which I first saw at around the time of the Jools Holland
performance. I think they don't detract at all, I mean,
Sinead O'Connor got away with them. Barney start's doing a
silly guitar-in-hand dance near the end of the tune.
BS: "Thank you! (strum) I just got to tune notes, so bear with
us. (spends a few seconds tuning his guitar) Shit, does anyone
else tune a guitar up? I've done it."
_Atmosphere_
BS: (continues) "Okay, we're gonna play a song that we've...I don't,
to my knowledge, I don't think we've ever played in Cologne before...
we have, we actually played it once as Joy Division. This is a Joy
Division song, and it's called Atmosphere."
Camera for the first time cuts to the audience, who are all waving
their hands. No lighters, though. A bit of a cut-out in terms
of the audio, right at the end of the the second verse, before
the "People like you..." part. One "hey" after the "abandoned
too soon" line.
After the song ends, Barney whispers something in Hooky's ear.
_Close___Range_
BS: "Okay, now we've chilled you out a little bit, we're gonna tee
you off a little bit. Erm, and we're gonna play eh, a fairly uptempo
song off our new album, and it's called Close Range."
The webcast breaks up a bit right when Bernard is about to sing.
Speaking of which, Bernard ends up yelling quite a few lyrics, I
don't know if they were having monitor problems. New drum pattern,
or technical glitch...by the end of the song, they pull themselves
together again...taking the advice of the lyrics, heh...except right
at the end, Bernard is left hanging to dry, as everybody else stops
playing when he continues to sing...he makes a face, goes "ha ha",
and says:
BS: "Thought there was another chorus! Jerry, can you just..
I think it just might be compressing a little bit much, that could
be the problem... [I think he's talking about his mic]. We should
put another chorus on the end of that. Thank you, thank you."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
(doesn't appear on the CD I have)
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Touched By The Hand Of God, and
we've gonna get our resident DJ, Mr. Arthur Baker, who produced this
song, to do a bit of on-llne DJ'ing for us."
Camera cuts to Arthur Baker in front of a pair of turntables,
scratching, of all things, which you can barely hear. The webcast
cuts off a bit in a couple places, pity. Bernard does a "1 2 3 4"
before the last round of chorus.
BS: "Thank you, Arthur. And numero uno DJ, uh, Mr. International"
AB: "What's that, what did you say? Thank you folks!"
BS: "All the way from New York City...Boston....right."
BS: (taking a towel) "Ohahh, it's fucking hot here...we had a bit
of a wild night last night so we're all a bit fucked. Anyway...
(Hooky guffaws...feedback screeches) here's a guitar...(more feedback)
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Here's a song that doesn't contain any guitars whatsoever,
for those of you of the dance music fraternity. This is
Bizarre Love Triangle."
Webcast starts cutting off a bit. Barney actually jumps at
one point, and starts dancing later. Scary.
At the end of the song, Hooky goes up to Barney and whispers
something back to him, grabbing onto him
BS: "We've got a wheelchair...or a stretcher. Thank you, danke
schun. (piano notes)" Barney takes a sip of something.
_True___Faith_
(left off of the CD version I have)
BS: "This is True Faith."
Hooky comes in a bit early, and his bass has an amazing amount of
chorus on it. Sumner's guitar sounds especially funky. Too bad
the stream breaks up a bit again, so I can't make out what Hooky
blurts out..."W6N...". Nice touch, yelling out "of the things that
cost you too much!" Of course, this has the "taking drugs with me"
line. Hooky starts freeranging. Barney screams out "so demanding"
as well.
BS: "Merci beaucoup, danke schur."
_Temptation_
Crowd starts yelling for Temptation.
BS: "Temptation it is then, you've got it!".
Neat...when Barney starts singing "oh you've got green eyes, oh
you've got blue eyes, oh you've got grey eyes" the lights change
colors to match. The latter guitar solos actually have a bit
of wah-wah on them.
BS: "Yeah!!"
BS: (points off in the direction of the audience)
"I've like to apologize to all the people stuck behind the pillars
over there. If you all come and see me after, hello...sorry about
that, that's disgusting, I'll give you your money back, if you come
and see me after the show, I'll give you your money back. If you
can find me."
Barney swaps guitars...for the next tune, instead of his Gibson SG,
he has a Rickenbacker, with a capo on the second fret."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna finish with a very special song."
Barney yells out "C'mon" a couple of times during one one of
the choruses, with Hooky screaming "Here we go, Cologne!"
The webcast desyncs a bit again, bad enough for the audio
to completely cut out. What's strange is that Hooky's bass
starts slowing down, almost like it's prerecorded (but it's
not!)
BS: "Thank you. You've been a fucking great audience. I
enjoyed it much more than the Robbie Williams concert. Is there
any Robbie Williams fans here? Thank you very much, you've been
great. Good night!" Hooky keeps playing bass throughout, and
ends with a solo of the LWTUA melody, before waving and walking
off.
Encore
(CD I have includes none of these)
Roadies come out and adjust stuff, as the fans clap and yell.
New Order don't come on for a few minutes, but of course come
back on.
_Rock___The___Shack_
BS: "My breath smells like your penis. Okay, hi, may name's
Bernard, and I'm a Capricorn. This is Rock The Shack, off our
new album."
I'm of the minority of NO fans who seems to like this tune, and
they do it justice here. Song ends with Barney tuning down
his low E string and strumming on that.
BS: {strums chord} "Thank you!". Meanwhile, Hooky pounds on
his symdrums.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: (continues): "Okay, okay, that was a song full of guitars,
now we're going to play for you a song full of synthesizers,
it's called Blauer Montag, or Blauer Montag, or something like
that, anyway."
Heh, they should just do the Hardfloor mix in the same fashion
that they play the Perfecto remix of True Faith. Cunningham
plays 'Crystal' style guitar...echo on the "waiting" part
of "I stand her waiting...".
_Ruined___In___A___Day_
BS: "Thank you, we're gonna play one very last song for you.
It's called Ruined In A Day."
The song is performed in an eerie, alluring green light.
BS: "Thank you, c'mon you've been fucking great. Thanks for being
a great audience and we'll see you sometime again in the future,
bye!"
The roadies come up and start taking things down...somebody got
handed the setlist.
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:07:15
Al Jarvis reports the setlist as the following:
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Nicholas
LeBlanc's message to Ceremony:
Crystal
(encore)
I just came home from the concert - Fantastic show!
Bernard dedicated the concert to Sven-Goran Eriksson (the Swedish coach
of the English national football team)
Bernard gave Peter a kiss after True Faith
They played Transmission
Bernard claimed Stockholm to be his very favorite city in Europe
Another review, this one from Calle
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:22:24
..less than 48 hours after the gig..not bad at all...
don't even know if the first posting ever made it to the list, but
here we go again..
Since I'm on the digest, I don't have a clue what has been reported from
Stockholm, but in short it can be summed in one word: brilliant!
In some more words (have you read about it before, nevermind, do it again..),
it was...
...a great, small venue as earlier reported. Only 1,800 people in the
crowd and a very intimate place for a concert.
...also great seeing the living legend - as it also said on Hookeys
speakers - Arthur Baker lurking around before the concert, looking like
a cross between a bum and santa claus, hanging with local swedish reggae
star (!) Papa Dee.
..good to hear Baker do a great DJ-set before the concert, dropping
Confusion, not-so-surprising "Walking on sunshine" and Clash "This is
radio Clash" amongst some really bass-heavy stuff.
..brilliant to see the band entering the stage about 11.15 and playing
for about 1 and a half hour.
The set started with Bernard apologizing for not playing in Sweden for
so many years (they havent been here since 1983..) and than dedicate the
whole set to Sven-Goran Eriksson (for non uk-residents or football
interested people, a former swede who now manage the English soccer team).
And, also, once again, he honoured Stockholm as Europes finest city.
The setlist was the same as the last concerts: Crystal / Transmission /
Regret / Ceremony / 60 Miles an Hour / Your Silent Face / Atmosphere /
Close Range / Touched by The Hand of God / Bizarre Love Triangle /
True Faith / Temptation / Love Will Tear Us Apart
The encore included Rock The Shack and Blue Monday. I'm not 100 procent
sure, but I think Bernard introduced Ruined in a day between the songs,
but then Blue Monday kicked in instead. A fook-up, maybe?
Backstage I'm also rather sure both Gillian and her sister hung out,
sipping wine.
Bernard was a bit stiff during the first part of the concert, excused
himself and than started the famous freaky dancing. He was completley
over the top during Blue Monday, but he must have been rather sober or
else he would have fell over. You dont do this sort of dancing normally
not ending up on the floor...
Hooky was also in great spirits, smiling and doing every trick the book
and of course insulting the guards. He was even down in the crowd posing
for some photos. What a brilliant entertainer!
Best part last: The Swedish national radio had there mobile recording
studio at Cirkus, wich means this concert will be broadcast. On the radio.
Crystal clear. I havent checked for a broadcasting date, but hopefully it
won't be too long away. Great to hear this great stuff again.
well, I think this sums it up rather good. a great evening!
carl
(he later shared both the JW (I believe) and FM versions to DIME)
Writeup from CD. It's missing the first 4 tracks.
Arthur Baker introduces the group.
AB: "Good evening, good evening, Stockholm. My name's Arthur Baker,
and I'd like to bring on the best band in the world, my good friends
from Manchester, England, NEW ORDER!"
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello! It's been a long time since we've been to Stockholm,
but it's a city we like very much. And, erm, I'd like to dedicate
this set to eh, our finest living Englishman at the moment, Sven-Goran
Eriksson."
Steve hits his kit.
PH: "I don't think there's anything to make you look more like a cunt,
Alex, so there you go."
BS: "Okay, we're goint to start the set tonight with Crystal."
BS: "Jerry, can I have a little less Phil, and a bit more of my guitar,
please, maybe a little bit of guitar in the wedges."
_Transmission_
BS: "This is Transmission."
(after)
BS: "'k you. Jerry, I think maybe we need a little more 'oomph' from the
side fills."
_Regret_
PH: "Very kind of you, I'd like to dedicate you this song to all of you
who came to see Revenge, cuz Sarge here has no regrets."
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
PH: "Thank you. Bit less guitar, Jerry, bit of reverb on the voice,
please."
_Ceremony_
BS: "Is everybody having a good time? I must apologize for the amount
of time it's taken us to get back to Stockholm, because Stockholm is one
of my...is my favorite city in the whole of Europe. Really, no, really
it is, so hopefully we won't be so long next time."
BS: "Well, we're going to play an old song now, it's called Ceremony."
Hooky is prominent on the choruses.
BS: "'k you."
PH: "Okay, can we get this fucking picture thing sorted out here, right?"
We only come once every twenty years, so if they want to take a fucking
picture, let 'em take it, OK?"
Someone cries for Age Of Consent.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, the next song we're gonna play is off our wonderful new album,
Raise The Pressure [Steve hits the cymbals at Bernard's quip] and is called
'60 Miles An Hour'."
Bass riff is really off here during the synth bridge.
_Your___Silent____Face_
BS: "'ank you. Okay we're gonna, erm, [coughs] excuse my voice, it's,
erm, a bit fucked. We're gonna tone down things a little bit with Your
Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you! One two, one...two...one two one two one two.
Jerry, can you give me...transmit a little more to me, I don't seem
to be getting any reverb at all. [sigh] Hey, hey hey hey hey."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, okay...does anyone like Joy Division? Well, we're gonna
play a song now which is my favorite Joy Division song. In fact,
it's probably my favorite song that we've ever written. It's called
Atmosphere. And it features Mr. Peter Hook on bass which is still(?),
really."
PH: "Just bear with me a moment. Checking(?) him out to take that
reunion tour."
BS: "Get on with it."
PH: (off-mic) "1-2-3-4!"
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much. A bit more reverb, eh, Jerry please."
Another cry for Age Of Consent.
_Close___Range_
BS: "All right, we're gonna hop things up a bit now, and hope you jump
around a little bit, because we've started getting a bit hot under the
collar now. This is a track off our new album called 'Close Range'."
(at end)
BS: "Just have a quick drink...[ah...]"
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Okay, this is a song of ours called Touched By The Hand Of God."
BS: "'ank you. [coughs and clears throat].
Then Hooky and who knows who else on stage starts doing it! A cacophony
of throat clearing!
PH: "Fookin' hell."
Is everybody having a reasonably good time? The gap at the front of
the stage is very wide. I'm sorry about that."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, anyway, this song, ah, is called Bizarre Love Triangle."
Partly way, Hooky looks to have screamed (off-mic) "Get out of there!!"
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
You can clearly hear Bernard's voice starting to give out.
Very interesting guitar intro.
Bernard sings the first verse, but apparently too early, so he yells out
"one, two, three, four" and starts over.
BS: "We did that, but I'm not gay, really, honestly.
PH: "Can I just say, can I just say a thank you to Coatsey, my long-suffering
roadie...for at least [glitch] I worked with [glitch] some time, aren't we,
boy? (?) [Steve hits drums]
BS: "I'll tell you what, this is the last night of our tour. We've been on
tour for seven days. That's right, seven fucking days. And we are fucking
exhasuted. I know I stopped doing it. Even our new guitarist here, Phil
Cunningham here, is exhausted. He spent so much money on watching porno
films at the hotel that we're not going to make any profit on this tour."
[Steve hits the drums - in comedy routine style]
BS: "Is that true, Phil? Shake your head if that's not true."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
(after)
BS: "Thank you very much." (quite a bit of reverb)
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Sounding like a bit of wind, that, Phil..."
Teaser acoustic chords, followed by the start of the song.
Hooky yells out, "Steve Morris on drums!"
During the second set choruses, Bernard yells "C'mon...yeeeah!"
followed by Hooky saying, "Here we go."
BS: "I think that's the end. Thank you very much. We're all a bit
fucked up here, not fucked up, just fucked, but thanks for bearing with
us, you've been a great audience, [Swedish that sounds like: 'a little
stucco, a little swen'], and erm, that's the end of our tour. Good night!"
Neat ascending sound effect, than the Swedish announcement says
something to the effect of "That was New Order, live." The announcer
isn't present on the webcast that was used to source the CD, though.
Cheering and stamping, and a cool sound effect later, the Order come
back on.
_Rock___The___Shack_
BS: "Hello, everybody. Did you enjoy those wafery biscuit at the
front? Okay, we never...Does Hooky sound a bit too loud? He sounds..."
BS: "This is the last show, and this is the last two songs of our..."
Hooky chimes in.
PH: "European tour".
BS: "One week tour, and this is Rock The Shack off our new album."
BS: "C'mon!"
Ends in a bit of wah-wah and feedback.
BS: "'k you."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "For those of you who don't like guitars, I apologize. And by way of
an apology, we'd like to play Blue Monday for you."
Lots of collossal guitar in this one, probably courtesy of Mr. Cunningham.
A recording of this show has recently surfaced, done with a Sony TCD D7
DAT with Core Sound lapel mics.
_Crystal_
Brief cut during synth intro portion.
Bernard's vocals come in slightly late. At this point the taper is still
adjusting levels.
BS: "Thank you, thank you. We got a slight technical problem with...
so you have to bear with us for a minute...while we sort it out.
punter: "Sing...sing louder"
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is a Joy Division song, it's called 'Transmission'.
PH: "I'd like to dedicate it to Kelvin, whose birthday it is today, so happy
birthday Kelvin."
BS: "Fook off for yer birthday."
Not a nice thing to say there.
A false start, so the group have to begin again.
BS: "Thank you."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
_Ceremony_
PH: "Another thoughtful one, so let's go."
BS: "Thank you!"
Chants of the group's name.
BS: "All right, have you had a good day today. Sorry about the rain, we brought
it from England with us. [Being?] from Manchester like we do, we love the rain.
Isn't that right, Phil? This is Phil Cunningham, our new guitarist. We
dragged him out on [?] to be where he is today, but he's still scum. You
can't take the scum out of the boy. You can take the piss out of him,
though, right.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, this is a track off our new album, it's called '60 MPH'. That's our
boo order cheer. Or yell."
(at end)
BS: "'ack you!"
There's a couple of cuts in the recording at this point.
BS: "...'em while I tune up." [cut] "Now that I tune the guitar". [cut]
"Joy Division, no longer...we will not play any songs by Joy Division tonight,
we won't...oh, go on then. Seeing you're so emotional about it."
Some bloke in the audience starts singing 'Love Will Tear Us Apart', Bono-style.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, but not this next one. This next one is called 'Your Silent Face'".
He yells out the 'piss off' line.
BS: "'k you."
Cut.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, for all of those that are calling for Joy Division, this is a Joy Division
song it's called Atmosphere...don't...we've never played it over here before.
definitely haven't..."
Quite a good version.
More brief cuts.
_Close___Range_
BS: "Maybe the tuner is not working as well, it doesn't matter. This is off our new album,
it's called Close Range."
(at end)
BS: "'Q".
BS: "Damien, you got a dead tuner here man."
Shouts of "Blue Monday" and "fuck you".
BS: "Can't possibly have you listen to out-of-tune guitars. It's not the old days now,
you know. We're a very professional group these days, we're all members of the Musicians
Union, apart from Steve of course, he's a drummer. [drum roll] With a sense of
humour."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
Taper says '...[something] record.'
BS: "Okay, This is 'Touched By The Hand Of God'."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "All right, this is 'Bizarre Love Triangle'."
_True___Faith_
BS: [talking during the intro] "Okay, this is 'True Faith'. New version of it. Hope you
like it. We quite like it. It's quite housey, you see. Almost unrecognizable...from the
original...see, here's the chorus, no [something]."
BS: "Phil. It's very hard to hear ...thank you."
A bit of chatter from person near taper and friend, the gist of it being the person talking
is tired.
_Temptation_
BS: "What do you want to hear next?"
Hooky says something hard to make out.
BS: "Pardon? I can't understand your Kiwi accents, so what we're gonna play is Temptation."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
A near acoustic opening...
BS: "My 12 string guitar...go to our heads."
The recording doesn't capture the final song, _Blue___Monday_.
I have a CD kindly provided from GaoBest of this performance.
Quality is excellent. The FM recording leaves out "Close Range",
"True Faith", and "LWTUA". In addition to that, the video
broadcasts leave out Love Vigilantes, Atmosphere, BLT, and BM.
Announcer: "...great recording we did of New Order, at the
Gold Coast Big Day Out, on Sunday the 20th of January. The
last time New Order toured Australia was way back in 1987,
and this one of dates saw them headline the Big Day Out, but
also coincided with the release of their seventh album, Get
Ready, their first new album in eight years. The exciting
part of seeing New Order back on the world stage is, as well,
has been the amount of back catalogue they've included in their
live sets. For the first time, they've gone back to their
Joy Division days and done songs like 'Atmosphere' and
'Transmission' both of which are included in this 'Live at the
Wireless' performance, and of course they've been doing some
of their all-time classics, especially from the 80s, songs like
'Blue Monday, 'Temptation', and 'Bizarre Love Triangle'. All
of those included in this 'Live At The Wireless' set at the
Gold Coast Big Day Out. Here they are on Triple J, New Order!"
(pronounced New Orrdaaahh)
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello. Sorry it's taken us so long to come back here.
Are you having a good day today? It's a bit. it's a bit, a
bit hot for us palmy[?] bastards. We only like it when
it rains. Okay, we're New Order, and we're like Crystal."
Intro...Bernard calls out "One". Amusing to hear Mr. Sumner
sing harmony with prerecorded female backing tracks. Well,
maybe 'amusing' isn't the right word.
The frontman cries out to close the track.
BS: "Thank you. Thanks a lot. Thanks for having us back.
Australia's changed a lot in fifteen years, for the better.
(a few guitar stums interspersed)
_Transmission_
BS: "This is a Joy Division song, it's called Transmission."
A few seconds later, he says quitely, "when you're quiet, mate".
(don't know who this is addressed to)
The only thing I have of note is Bernard flubs the "touching
from a distance" line, substituting another one in its place.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is a bit more poppy song, it's called Regret."
New Order play Regret, in a matter consistent with all other
performances of that song.
BS: "Thank you!"
Recording I have (being from the Triple J brodcast) has "This is
New Order, live at the Wireless on Triple J" interpolated.
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Okay, erm...(Hooky mutters something about not saying anymore
and trying to keep it down) this, this is a song that we've not played
for a while so if it goes terribly wrong, er, bear with us. It's called
Love Vigilante(sic)." (I don't hear him add the terminal plural)
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, this one's bang up to date...it's off our our new album,
it's called...er, whatever it's called, and when you hear this vocal,
go to a record shop and buy the album tomorrow, that's what the point
is....it's called 60 Miles An Hour. But you won't do that, because
you're not robots. That's why we love you so much."
The band play a pretty good version of it.
BS: "Thank you! It's not a bad little tune, is it? Maybe you should
all buy it tomorrow!"
And go right into _Atmosphere_.
BS: "'k you. Did that ever come out in Australia, have you ever heard
that song before? Erm, well, I don't have to explain it then.
_Close___Range_ follows. It doesn't appear on the FM broadcast.
Bernard screams out the chorus on this one.
BS: "Okay, now that we've poisoned your ears with all of those guitars,
we're going to abandon it for a minute. We're going to play, erm, an old
favorite of ours called _Bizarre___Love___Triangle_..."
BLT starts up, and Bernard keeps talking...
BS: "...and it's about, it's about me, Phil, and Peter. Peter's on top
of New Order and..."
PH: "It's bizarre".
BS: "And Phil is on the bottom."
I wonder how Steve feels about being left out. Probably relieved.
I think the vocals sound flat, but what else is new?
ANCR: "This is New Order...live at the Wireless on Triple J"
_True Faith_
Also missing from the FM broadcast.
BS: "More sequencers Jerry, more sequencers. Fuckin' 'ell. When you
get to our age..."
An announcer's voice can be heard on the PA, which obscures what Bernard
says at this point.
BS: "Don't know if this song ever came out in Australia, it's called True
Faith."
(at end)
BS: "Jerry, time(?) for more vocalization please...[can't make out]...a
bit out of tume. It's not my fault, of course."
_Temptation_
BS: "So, is everybody enjoying this so far? So are we. Em, we're gonna
play a song now, it's called, uhh, Temptation."
The intro sounds a bit more arpeggio'ed than typical. Lots of classicsounding
guitar, too.
He says, "Oh, it's the last *fucking* time", of course. And "1-2-3-4"
is yelled out.
Very good stuff.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Another one not on the FM broadcast.
PH: (a bit off-mic) "Let's go. One-two-three-four..."
Bernard "C'mons" a few times, of course. Hooky yells for Steve...
you know the drill.
BS: "Thank you! Sounded better than I did...that seemed very odd."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, this is our last song...and we're absolutely FUCKING sick
of playing it, FUCKING hate it, but we'll play it for you."
PH: "Oooh, gotta go(?)...make an old man happy!"
Despite the strong feeling expressed, this performance of the worn
chestnut breathes some life into the old mare. The vocoders are mixed
in with Barney's vocals. There's a different-sounding guitar during
the second version.
Barney sings "waiting" over and over a few times.
Nice guitar solo in there too. Ends in drums
BS: "Thank you, sorry about the heavy rock guitar at the end of it,
but I suppose it makes it a little bit different. Thank you,
goodnight! See you again in...eh, 20 years."
ANCR: "And knowing them, they're not lying, either. On Triple J.
Wasn't that special? New Order, live at the Wireless. A Triple J
recording of their performance at the Gold Coast, Big Day Out, on
the 20th of January, a Sunday evening, and nine songs from their
set that they performed that night, ending of course with the classic
Blue Monday. Before that, Temptation, Bizarre Love Triangle,
Atmosphere, 60 Miles An Hour, Love Vigilantes, a track which went
way back to 1985 for them, Regret, Transmission, and Crystal. Nice
to hear a couple of the Joy Division tracks in the set as well.
That, ah, set by New Order was recorded by Triple J Live producer
Cameron McCauley, so thanks to him..."
NME Review
http://www.nme.com/reviews/10158.htm
Highlights from the review:
English backpackers chant that Hooky's a fat twat and cheer at the fact
that 'Salford Rules!' is written in duct tape on the amps.
Sumner attacks the last few versus of 'Close Range' with all the vigour
of a man who's just come in from a ten mile run ("Are you ready to chill
out?" he puffs at one stage. "I tell you what, I am.") .
I've had the opportunity to listen to a few tracks from this gig...and
then the rest as somebody shared their superb quality audience tape on
DIME.
This may be Arthur Baker introducing the band.
AB: "One of my favorite bands of all time may be here tonight, I'm not
sure. What do you think? Yeah? Okay, the best band in the world ever,
out of Manchester or anywhere else, NEW ORDER!"
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello! How you're doing? This isn't a big day out, but it's the
next best thing. Okay, it's been a long time we've been to Australia
and I must apologize for that. It's Peter's fault."
Somebody, maybe even Hooky himself, cries out 'Bullshit!'.
BS: "Okay, we're going to start out the set tonight with, er, Crystal."
(after song's complete)
BS: "Thank you! Jerry, can you turn up your...[equipment]"
_Transmission_
punter: "All right, don't tell anyone to get fucked(?)..."
PH: "This one's for a great friend of ours, it's so fucking to see you Frank,
you fat bastard."
punter: "Good one!"
PH: "Transmission for you, mate!"
(at end)
punter: "Do you still hate fucking singing, you cunt?"
BS: "Course that was a Joy Division song."
punter: "You used to hate singin'!"
BS: "We ain't played it for a long long time."
_Regret_
BS: "And this is a New Order song off Republic, it's called Regret."
BS: "Jerry, I am a bit...a little bit too loud. My guitar."
punter: "A bit of Electronic. A little bit of Electronic. Johnny Marr.
Johnny Marr. You [?] all that concert could, you prick. Hey, Georgie.
Hey, Georgie."
_Ceremony_
PH: "Okay, Bernard."
BS: "Okay, we're going to keep this guitar-friendly for the time being.
And this is a very old song of ours, it's kinda half ours and half
Joy Divison's. It's called Ceremony."
Damn Aussies yelping thorughout this song.
BS: "Thank you!
punter: "You're ahead of your time!
BS: "Thank you, thanks a lot."
punter: "You're ahead of your time, you old fucking pony cack(?)"
PH: "I know that's at the end, so don't be daft!"
(I don't know who or what this is directed at)
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, we're going to bring things right up to date now.
A track off our new album, which I'm sure you've all been to the
shops and bought. Every one of you. All right, for the ones
who haven't, go out and get it tomorrow. This is the new single,
it's called 60 Miles An Hour."
Wah wah guitar at the end.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Well, that's a bit high ... in it so far, so I think we're
going to chill things out a little bit. You ready to chill out
a little bit? I tell you what, I am."
Some fans start to chant.
Bernard doesn't sing the 'piss off' line, leaving it for the fans
to fill in.
BS: "Thank you. One of our favorites. Just give us a second
while we tune up, we're professional."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "I bet you've got no idea what we're going to play next,
have you? Pardon, one at a time please. This is a song I don't
think we've ever played in Australia before...this tour. It's
called Atmosphere, it's a Joy Division."
Amazingly enough, he's right.
PH: "Okay, Phil. One two three four."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
_Close___Range_
Some muted guitar power chording.
BS: "Okay, this is Close Range off of our new album, and we want
to see jumping up and down to this one. From now on, everyone's
got to jump up and down, including me. Sounds a bit loud."
BS: "'k you. The drums were very, very, loud on that one.
Very loud drums."
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "Please turn the drums down. Okay, this is Touched By The Hand
Of God."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "I bet you're absolutely sick of guitars by now, and you want
us to play a couple of our dance hits. Well, maybe I've read the
situation all wrong. Pardon? Speak up, I can't hear you! I'm a
fat twat. Oh, Peter is. Throw him out."
PH: "Fuck off, [can't make out, as Bernard is also speaking]
BS: "All right, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
Bernard says something at 0:52, maybe 'bass drum'? Then he whistles.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "It's very hot up here, if anybody out there has got...is in
charge of the air conditioning control, could you turn it down a
bit so it is a bit cool. Turn it down to where it feels like we're
in England."
_True___Faith_
BS: "This is True Faith."
After the first verse, Hooky makes the following pronouncement.
PH: "You're really good Sydney, fuck me!"
BS: "Thank you. Have the drums put up a little bit, please."
_Temptation_
BS: "Well, I gotta tune up for this one because it's a very special
song. It's my favorite New Order song. It's our cover version of a
Benny Hill song called 'Ernie The Milkman'. Okay, this is 'Temptation'."
(at end)
BS: "'k you!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, this is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
PH: "Onetwothreefour!"
At the 2:00 mark Hooky exhorts the crowd, "C'mon, louder Sydney!"
then, satisfied, says "That's better" and "Steve, m... that ground[?]!".
BS: "Thank you, you've been a great audience. See you again!
On Saturday."
Hooky ends things with a two-note vamp. Fans begin cheering for
an encore, of course. A minute later, you can hear guitar being
strummed and a fan says "they're tuning up his guitar, do you think
he's gonna come back" and a female fan replies, "It's so funny,
because Australia...[hard to make out rest]"
_Isolation_
Here's how Barney introduces it:
BS: "Thank you, you're a fucking great audience, in fact, you're better
than we are. You've got a choice of Rock The Shack off our new album or
Isolation. Which one...?"
The audience calls out for both, though I hear more for the latter than
the former, Hooky gives it away by playing the bass riff for Isolation.
BS: "All right, we'll do both then. Rock The Shack first. Nononononono.
Isolation first."
(the groop play Isolation)
BS: "'k you."
_Rock___The___Shack_
BS: "Okay, okay, this is Rock The Shack."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
Some Hendrix-type guitar bits at the end.
_Blue___Monday_
Some weird drum sounds at the starts.
BS: "Thank you, good night. See you on Saturday night!"
Feedback and clapping at the end.
PH: "When you see your friends, tell 'em you've been goblined!"
Not sure what the last word is, actually, and nor does the crowd.
Source taken from a CD with tracks sourced from MP3. Very-good
quality audience recording, likely done by the same person who
taped the worse-sounding version Queensland, but with a lot less
distortion.
_Crystal_
PH: "Happy Australia day. Fuck it, c'mon!"
BS: "Hello. Hello hello hello hello. We are New Order, all the way
from Manchester, home of Manchester United. Not Liverpool. (boos)
And our first song we're gonna play for you is Crystal."
Fans cry out "New Order"
Brief edit.
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is a Joy Division song. It's called Transmission."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you! I'm sorry it's been so long since we've been here...
in Sydney. But the weather's just too nice for us. We only like to
play places where it rains. Like Garbage, really."
_Love___Vigilantes_
Original source for this song was an audience tape->112kbps MP3.
Decent sound...this is likely the same source as the present one
I'm using for the writeup.
BS: "Okay, this is a...very old song by us called Love Vigilantes."
He flubs the lyrics, getting ahead of himself at one point.
lyric: "Oh I flew through the sky, my convictions...I would die.
My convictions would not lie, I would see it soon."
(the next line is "For my country I would die/And I will see it soon')
The punters, of course, are singing along...
Some feedback about 3:14 in.
BS: "Thank you...this is for Jerry, a bit of tattered guitar back in..."
(I can't make this out very well). [some strumming]
Somebody very loudly cries out, "Bernard, you fat bastard..." which
makes him say "Ok" and then cough-chuckle.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Jerry, can you set my guitar down a touch in my In-Ears, please.
BS: "You having a good time today? It's been a little bit too hot...
for us...okay, okay, I need my melodica for this one, and it'll take
me a second to get it.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "This is off our new album, Get Ready, and it's called 60 Miles An Hour.
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Hrm, I've been carried away on that one, hell, if you didn't notice.
I should have fucking been carried away, I don't know which one it was.
Somebody calls out "Hooky, you're God." To that he responds, "I love you
too."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, I'd like to dedicate this next song to Jessica and her family.
Atmosphere."
PH: "All right, Freddy...one, two, three, four."
BS: "Thank you."
_Close___Range_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna pep up things up a little bit now."
[Something about turning down something...]
PH: "I heard what you said down in front."
BS: "This is Close Range."
BS: "'Q!"
punter: "Fucking brilliant."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a couple of dance tunes now. Cuz that guitar
was hurting my fucking fingers. And I need them later on. This is Bizarre
Love Triangle."
PH: "[can't make out]...ceiling and not enough...have to cut down on the
ceiling..."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
BS: (during intro) "Sequencers, Jerry, sequencers".
BS: "We always spot the ending up on that one...but everybody else does.
Get it right! [Morris drum hit] You get it right. Somebody might help(?)
you can't get these days.
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay this is, eh. [cough] I don't like this, I thought it was
all the same but it's not. This is, er, Temptation.
(during bridge)
BS: "Push him off"...
BS: "Thank you."
Bernard screams the "one, two, three, four" part. This was useful in distinguishing
this version against the more common Adelaide show, as there was observed to be some
confusion in the labelling of the common FM recoding which was attributed to this
date but was really from Adelaide a few days earlier.
BS: "All right, I have to change this guitar for this one."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, let's see if Sydney rocks. This is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay...this is a song that we miss playing, that is the bane of my
existence."
(this doesn't make much sense)
Bernard mutters something during the intro.
BS: "Thank you, you've been fucking great! FUCKING GREAT!! See you
guys soon."
The tune ends with Phil vamping out.
BS: (introducing Atmosphere) "This one's about golf."
A robotic female announcement interrupts the taper or whoever it is
that's saying "You think you...thank you."
Can I have your attention please? In the interest of your own safety,
and the safety of others around you, please listen to the following
announcement. Crowd surfing, pushing, and aggressive...endangers
yourself and the safety of others. Participation in these activties
may result in you being ejected from the venue.
Remember to drink plenty of water. Avoid excessive sun exposure
and immediately seek first aid attention if you are feeling unwell.
Enjoy the day, and think you for your support. This has been a
Big Day Out safety announcement.
This recording was taped with Oade mics into a Sony D100 DAT, and
is excellent-sounding.
_Crystal_
BS: "You all right? We're New Order. We've come all the way from
Manchester England to bore the pants off you."
PH: "That's a nice welcome, thank you.!"
BS: "Okay, the first song from our repertoire...Jerry, can I have
a bit more reverb?...for you tonight is called Crystal."
Thank you. Jerry, can you turn down a little bit...unusually.
So you've been having a good day today? It's great to be back
here in Australia, especially Adelaide. Hooky laughs.
BS: "It is, it's a cool place man."
PH: (Trying to get a word in edgewise) "You ready...for Tra..."
BS: "Not as cool as Manchester, but it's all right."
_Transmission_
PH: "Ready for Transmission? Forgot about you for a minute.
One two three...four."
BS: (at end) "Hey! Thank you."
BS: "Damien, you got another Pernod n' orange please, that fucking
line's over(?) with. Even though the(?) sponsor is here....
When you're finished, when you're ready...your own good time."
_Regret_
BS: "This is Regret."
Guitar bit here.
_Ceremony_
BS: "Okay! This is a very old song, and we wrote it just when we
first started as New Order, just after the end of Joy Division, and
it's called Ceremony. If I can still remember how to play it."
The guitar bit during the bridge is somewhat different (rude people
would say "off"), but then recovers.
_60___Miles___An___HOur_
BS: "Okay, we're going to bring it a bit more up to date here with a
track off our new album Get Ready which you've obviously all bought
[can't make out next few words]. It's called '60 Miles An Hour'"
BS: "Thank you!"
Chimes (from the next song).
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, new we're plunging the depths of our past again. This is
one of my favorite songs, called Atmosphere."
Bass goes a bit ropey after the first verse.
BS: "Thanks a lot! Thank you."
_Close___Range_
BS: "I'm getting very polite in my old age. I never used to be like this,
I'm bit of a creep now. Still, it's better than being a lot of a creep,
innit? Okay this is Close Range off our new album."
He shouts out some verses as he did during the Sydney show.
BS: "Thank you."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
PH: "You want love? Just speak up. You can't all talk all at once."
Bernard coughs.
PH: "Ten dollars a pair, yeah."
BS: "This is Bizarre Love Triangle."
BS: "Thank you. Wooh."
BS: "Ah, a little bit out of breath after that, so just give us a few
minutes to recover. Getting on a bit now."
PH: (laughing) "A few days..."
When you get to our age.
PH: "When you get to our age..."
BS: "Fortunately, I'm a bit younger than Peter, so it's a good thing(?)
I'm the singer...only by about twelve years...
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
Starts up with a bit of Hooky noodling.
Unusually, Bernard repeats "I feel so...I feel so...I feel so..." before
going into the second verse.
BS: "Yo! Let's fucking have it!"
BS: "Sorry about that...that outburst. I had a bit of a late night last
night drinking with the Prodigy, so it's all their fault.
_Temptation_
BS: "This is Temptation."
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Any requests? Apart from "Fuck Off". I said, "Apart from 'Fuck Off'."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_ with stummed semi-acoustic guitar
follows.
PH: "C'mon laddie(?)"
And right before the bridge, Hooky makes his usual "C'mon Steve" exhortation.
And then a "Where we going, here we go!" from him right before the end.
BS: "Cheers."
BS: "Okay, you need these guitars, eh? Say that and shove it someone's ass.
I don't care who it is, as long as it's not mine. It won't fit anyway, cuz
it's a 12-string." Steve hits the cymbal as a punchline accompaniment.
_Blue___Monday_
Quite an unusual start, as it looks like somebody manually plays the beat for
the first measure until the sequencer kicks in.
A bit of off-mic chatter right before the main line of the song starts.
Source: Audience tape-->VBR MP3
Another version (presumably from ATR) turned up with the
Alan Wise Intro.
Counting 'Ceremony'
AW: "...poor boys, though, you know, they've discovered the
channels, the porn channels on the TV and we just can't get
them away from it. Fuckin' hell. [chuckles] Listen, there's
four young lads here from Macclesfield, they've never been
to Paris before and they can't speak French. I want you to
give them a warm welcome. Here they are, the boys from...
what's the name of the band? [allowing the audience to fill
in the blank] That's right, New Order!"
_Crystal_
BS: "Bonsoir, Paris. This is the first concert which we've
played since Feburary, so bear with us, we might not be that
tight."
BS: "This is Crystal."
Our favorite taper comments, "You're shite anyway, Barney."
BS: "Thank you! Jerry, could use some more vocal, I know,
just turn the pack up first, that'll turn the record(?)
Someone set it wrong."
Then Bernard turns his attention to the lighting guy.
BS: "Andy Liddle, can you hear me? Andy's our lighting guy,
and he's just put a big horrible skid mark on the toilet in our
dressing rooms. You can wipe it off after. He's been blaming
it on you, Hooky."
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is...eh, we're gonna eh, going to...our second
song is a Joy Division song, it's called Transmission."
(at end)
BS: "Merci Beucoup"
PH: "All right, David, [you might as well] have this one mate."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is 'No Regrets' by Edith Piaf."
Goes a bit off kilter between 3:15 - 3:20.
BS: "Thank you. Jerry, can I have a bit less of my guitar
through the [DMF]? Just tune up. Let me just tune up. I
know now [name?] can tune a guitar. I fucking can.
[Steve bangs the toms to the punch line]
_Ceremony_
Bass teaser.
BS: "Okay, this is Ceremony."
(at end)
BS: "'k you!"
Guitar strumming, with a touch of wah-wah.
PH: "You'll have to, eh, forgive the tuning noises. I've got a
new roadie, Rex, and erm, me old roadie, Coatsey, whose over there
is trying to fuck him up by fucking up all me equipment."
BS: "Even I can't underststand what you're saying, Hooky. I'll
translate that for you."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "The next song is called 60 Miles An Hour."
Features a "C'mon!" during the chorus.
My guitar's gone hopelessly out of tune, just like me voice, but I can
do something about the guitar so let me change it, so just give me a
few minutes. Parlez vous francais? Je parlez vous francais un petit.
'U e' de rouge lumiere 'de script'. 'Col me am' madame. [parts in
single quotes not fully worked out]
I believe that is...is "Welcome...welcome to Paris, hope you have a
good time. It's good to be back here again, we enjoyed it very much
the last time we were here, and this is one of the only few places in
Europe that we're coming back to, or maybe it's the last time we ever
come here, who knows.
BS: "Get on my fuckin' guitar. Okay, okay. I'm sure Peter would like
to say something on behalf of the band. [coughs a few times]"
PH: "This is Jason, Jason there normally works with Oasis, but he's
decided to sweat it for a couple of days.
BS: "Welcome to our new guitarist, filthy Phil Cunningham."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, this is another Joy Division song, this is Atmosphere."
Bernard starts calling out French landmarks, while a female fan
squeals her delight.
BS: "the ... de Concorde, the back [name], the new [name], the
Eiffel Tower..."
BS: "That was a rather fast version...who's responsible? Must
apologize for that, apparently it's our bass player's fault.
A problem with the fucking drums there."
_Brutal_
New Order debut this track live right here.
BS: "Okay, this a song that you've probably never ever heard
before, it can almost be described as a certain new song, but
it isn't. it's a song called Brutal, and we wrote it for a film
called _The___Beach_, which it didn't get much play in, but it's
a good song anyway, so I hope you like it."
Not much different from the recorded version...the female backing
vocals are the same, for instance.
BS: "Thank you! Thank you for bearing with one that you don't
really know, but it's a good song, I feel."
_Close___Range_
A bit more tuning.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is another one off our last album, this is Close Range."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "I'm getting genuinely worked up now, honestly, no bullshit!"
I swear I hear fans calling out "Stephen!" as the band tunes up...
BS: "It's been like...(long pause) okay, we're gonna play a song now
that we have probably haven't played here in Paris since we played
in Bains-Douches in 1978...was it? when was it, Peter? when?
1978, it was fuckin' 9, I told you I was right! It's a Joy Division
song, it's called 'She's Lost Control'"
(I don't hear if Peter replied or if Barney was just taking the piss
out of him...)
Features the same 1-2-3-4 that often graces Temptation. I THOUGHT
SHE DIED AGAIN...and a few other screams from the vocalist.
Hooky mutters something I can't quite make out, as usual, starts out
with, "Now fuck me..."
BS: "Thank you..."
BS: "I don't know where it's coming from, but Steve's snare drum went
pretty loud on that track, I don't know where it's coming from."
BS: "Is everybody having a good time? You better fucking happy, because
it took us an hour to get here from Manchester. A whole hour! Has anyone
got a Pernod and orange please? When I fancy, I drink Pernod, a very
fine drink."
_Bizarre___Live___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle, innit. It's about when Hooky
met Phil when he was in prison. Hooky was the daddy and Phil was the
mummy. And ... in the group was a swinger."
BS: (during the bridge) "David Bechkam! Manchester United!"
(at end)
BS: "Can we go off now, I'm fucked."
_True___Faith_
Female fan calls for TF, and gets it.
BS: "Erm, this is an entirely live version of True Faith."
PH: (between verses) "Do we have a cor... bass." [can't 100% make out]
BS: "Yo! Let's hear it for Paris. Let's hear it for New Order."
PH: "Punch out, there it is, fucking technical...Is that you, Rex?
It's all right."
BS: "Let's hear it for Manchester United. [boos] Yeah! All right, what
about Wolverhampton Wanderers then? You know I got fucking Londerers in
here tonight. No Arsenal fans, is there? Fucking wankers, the lot of you.
You can suck Phil's cock after the gig. Or be the next fucking England(?)"
BS: "All right [coughs], let's give it a bit of a rest then."
_Temptation_
BS: "This is Temptation. In New Zealand, they call it 'Temptey'.
Bernard screams out "1-2-3-4" at the 6:30 mark or so.
BS: "'ank you. Thanks a lot. Where's the fucking..."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Some teaser chords...
BS: "Okay, now we're going to head back to the past, and what a past we've
got. This is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
BS: "When you're ready 'ooky, when you're fucking ready..."
BS: "Sorry about this, if you want your money back...I'll give it to you,
you just go in our dressing room and I'll give it all back. I thought he
was in the Musicians Union as well when we employed him. Three fucking
notes(?) in, god. Do you want a speech for you to tune up, Hooky?"
PH: "Not easy being me, you know. Nasty kids, fookin' hell, they're bleedin'
for me, I tell ya. But anyway, for all of you in here tonight and for
Ian Curtis, God rest his soul, 1-2-3-4..."
Lots of "C'mon's" and the exhortation by Hooky for Steve to play (can't
make out the exact wording).
Hooky also yells, "Here we go, Paris!".
This marks the end of the main set.
BS: "Thank you very much. You've been a great fucking audience! I'm
glad we came out to Paris. See you again next week. Thank you. Avoir!
Merci beucoup."
Alan Wise then steps up...
AW: "Why, those of you who wonder who's on next...no, not really. Listen,
I want to introduce to you my best friend.... And you know, [word inaudible]
you want to get rid of me. They say I'm too expensive. I only charge them
a thousand pounds a time, and they say I'm not worth it. I want my job back
for the fish and chips shop in Crumsfall(?). Don't you think the association
with football lets them down, though? All that football rubbish. Well, that's
because they rode the England world cup thing a few years ago. I think they're
going to come back if you chant for them. One goes to the toilet, one has a
drink of Red Bull, one has a wee wee, and they all take catatonic drugs.
C'mon New Order! I'm going to whip you into a frenzy. Start stamping the
floor. We want New Order! [audience cheers] I want New Order. I particularly
want Bernard Sumner. C'mon, I know you got more zung(?) than that. C'mon,
tell 'em to come back. Encore, encore. That's a good sign. More, more!..."
NO finally come back on.
AW: "Here they are!"
_Digital_
The first time New Order perform this one live (though they did soundcheck
this song back in 1981!)
BS: "Just in case you're getting hungry...are there any Joy Division
fans in here tonight? (Fans cry out affirmatively) Well, tonight is
your night, because we're playing quite...seems like we've been playing
quite a lot of Joy Division songs tonight (feedback comes in)
This is a very rare Joy Division so...track...song, it's called, eh...
(pause, as fans cry out)...it's called Digital." (Hooky strums)
And then they play it. Hooky says "what a night!" about 55 seconds in.
Both Hooky and Phil do the "Day in, day out part."
Glad to hear them play this, after all these years, as it's one of my
favorite JD tracks...songs.
BS: "Thought that was wrong. Sp...[?] image then..."
PH: "Think you'll find your own then..."
_Rock___The___Shack_
PH: "All right, it's like 19 fucking 77 all over again, innit? You know
what we're going to play now? Novelty, right!"
BS: "Okay, this is a song that we wrote with Primal Scream, it's called
'Rock The Track'...[laughs]...Rock The Shack...Rock The Jock!"
BS: "Enough of those guitars, they're so fucking noisy, aren't they?
Get on your nerves after a bit, all that scratching sound."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Let's have a bit of synthesizer heaven. This is a...very old song of
ours, very famous song. We fucking hate it, but I'm sure you love it, so we
play it just for you. It's called Blue Monday. As the Japanese say, 'Brue
Monday'."
Bernard "heys" a couple of times before the first verse.
Ends with the intro sequence kick drum, which slows down.
The backing PA music actually comes on.
_Your___Silent___Face_
A rare second encore from the group.
BS: "We're gonna do two encores. We're gonna play something a bit more
relaxing. It's called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you very much. You've been a fantastic audience! It's
been great to play in Paris and we hope to come back soon. Merci beucoup,
avoir!"
From "NewOrder 511" DVD.
The live versions of Ceremony and Temptation played at Finsbury
loop as the backing music for the 'Set List 01' and 'Set List 02'
display portions.
A unique instrumental mix of Vicious Streak on the title screen,
which appears more in full for the 'Earlier in the Day'.
HELLO, why haven't I seen this version released on a record?
It's BRILLIANT, at least until it's mixed into the Alan Wise
intro.
AW: "And what you've been waiting for is six little boys from
Manchester (can't make out phrase here). Welcome if you will,
the six little boys from Manchester, the New...uh, Thingies."
BS: "Hello. We're sorry and like to apologize for the rain.
How do you think I feel, I got my fucking trainers on. Always
remember, no matter how bad it is out there for you, it's worse
for us backstage. Here's (can't make out)"
_Crystal_
BS: "This is Dawn (Zee), our singer...Phil Cunningham, our guitarist."
Heh, Barney's wearing in-the-ear style headphones, and I'm sure the
autocue's close-by.
Steve's wearing a t-shirt with a cracking egg with an "I am Deuf"
voice bubble. Cool. And as remarked elsewhere, the onstage monitors
read "BYE BYE | DEE DEE", may he rest in peace.
Interesting skip dance by Mr. Sumner during the portion where they're
supposed to be rockin' out. Monty Python and Ian Curtis would be proud.
BS: "Yeeeawwww! All right, thanks for putting up with the weather today.
We'll have to try extra hard to make it worth it. Cuz I wouldn't fuckin'
come out on a day like today, we really apprecate you who have done made
the effort."
The band then rip into _Transmission_.
In the video, you can see that there's a Confederate flag(!) on the bridge
of Barney's red Gibson guitar. His vocals are notably flat, and during
the "touching from a distance" line he loses his cadence.
Barney's shirt has an alien on it, and Hooky's has something
incomprehensible. Everybody's wearing black t-shirts, and Hooky's
wearing jeans(!), not some black leather thing that's waaay too tight.
BS: "'k you! Whoo! What a beautiful day for an open air festival,
couldn't picked a nicer day!"
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
New Order play Regret. Personally, this one's sounding a bit tired.
But's its OK.
BS: "Yeaah! Merci Beucoup"
_Ceremony_
PH: "This one's for Dee Dee Ramone, God rest his soul. He can keep
Ian company until I get there."
A blistering version. They really take it down during the bridge and then
pick up to finish out the song.
BS: "'k you! Is everybody having a nice time? (cheers) Well, that's
all that matters. Personally, I'd still...I'd rather sit at home
watching Stars_On_Sunday...or the World Cup. Is it on anymore,
Stars_On_Sunday? No? All right, then."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "All right. This is 60 Miles An Hour."
The best live version I've heard of this, I think. Doesn't hurt that
the sound quality is pristine. A couple of bum bass notes, too. :)
BS: "'k you!
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Too quiet now, Hooky[?]"
Yes, this version features a couple of yelps as is endemic to many of
the post-98 performances of this song.
BS: "'k you!
_Brutal_
BS: "Okay, this is...this next one is a song that a few of you will
have heard, did it for a film called _The_Beach_, and it's called Brutal,
and um, we've only played it live once before, so if the rest of band
mess it up, please bear with them."
Haha.
Phil's playing the solo. Dawn Zee's doing backing vocals here as well.
"It's all right" is repeated many times as the final refrain, unlike
the soundtrack version.
BS: "'k you! Thank you for bearing with us with our new one, we
wanted to play a new one tonight."
_Close___Range_
BS: "Okay, this is Close Range."
This one turned into a juggernaut while no one was looking.
Dawn Zee on backing vox.
I love how Barney yells out "YOU'RE PRETTY HIGH" here.
Has anybody noticed that the "how can I ever make you understand"
line (both lyrically and musically) is cribbed from Electronic's
"Reality"?
Ah, the rum swapping of instruments.
_She's___Lost___Control_
BS: "It's called She's Lost Control." Hooky stares out with his
arms folded. You can catch Barney sneaking glances at the autocue
a couple of times. :)
BS: "Thank you, that song...the second time we've played that
in 25 years. For obvious reasons."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Again, I must apologize for the rain. But as soon as we go on
stage, the rain goes away. I think if you live in Manchester like we
do, except for Phil there comes from a plain little place called
Oswaldwhistle, you get used to the rain, so FUCK THE RAIN!
Here's a little story about a bizarre love triangle."
Barney gives Hooky a hug between verses.
Then Barney goes up to Phil, pats him on the back, rubs his head, and
tells him, "I said I love you."
During the break after, Hooky starts to make a huge racket rattling all
the strings on his bass.
Barney is hopelessly out of tune.
BS: "Whoo..."
_True___Faith_
BS: "This is True Faith."
Perfecto mix, of course. Unusually, Barney plays guitar during the
intro, while Hooky hugs Dawn Zee and pinches poor Phil in the bottom.
Dawn Zee on backing. Between first and second verses, Hooky yells out
something insane and unintelligable. Of course, this version has
the "drugs" reference and Barney shouting out some of the lyrics.
The band looks like they're having a tremendous amount of fun on stage!
The whistle from Happy Monday's "Step On" makes an appearance too.
Colossally, bloody good, this.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Temptation_
BS: "Do we want Hooky to turn his bass down a little bit? (faking
Hooky voice) YES! (meanwhile Hooky goes up to his amp and pretends
to turn it down) Actually, this song is all me anyway, all me, you
know. I wrote it, it's all my lyrics, you know, we don't need anybody
else so if you want a break, go fuck off for a bit. (Hooky actually
walks off stage left) This is my song, it's called Temptation.
(calling back to Hooky) You can help me out a little bit if you want."
The split-screen mudslide footage is cute.
BS: "Cheers, thanks!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "(clears throat) All right, Hooky. This is Love Will Tear Us
Apart".
Hooky screams into the mic. Barney picks up a Rickenbaker for this
song. And glancing into the autocue. About midway, the energy level
picks up, making an otherwise ok performance better. Though the
"C'mon's" are a bit cheesy. Near the end, Hooky yells something
else I can't make out.
BS: "Thank you, good night, you've been a really good audience. Cheers!"
(encore break cut out)
_Digital_
BS: "I'm very very sorry about the rain, it's really been awful.
Everybody is getting wet, including me. Thank you very much, you're
very, very appreciative. It's a bit dumb to say, but I don't care,
I'm not very eloquent. We're gonna play a song here tonight that
we've haven't played for 25 years...it's called Digital."
PH: "Yeah, you gotta thank _24_Hour_Party_People_, you gotta thank
_24_Hour_Party_People_ for one thing, it's this."
BS: "Tonight's dedicated to to Mr. John Simm. John, can you say hello,
where are you? John, John, come here!"
John Simm, who plays Barney in the aformentioned movie, appears onstage.
(during intro)
PH: "Where is Ralf Little? Where is Ralf Little?"
Barney calls for John to john in on-mic to join him for the
"Day in, day out..."
PH: (before second chorus) "C'mon John, don't be shy(?)..."
Barney makes a hash of the guitar solo...and calls back for John,
who helps out on the closing "Don't ever fade away" bit.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Yawoo! Thank you, John. The next song, we've got a choice
of Rock The Shack or Blue Monday, what do you want to hear?
(cheers) Whoa, one at a time, one a time. Do you want Blue Monday?
If you want Blue Monday, put your hands up. If you want
Rock The Shack, get your penises out. It's Rock The Shack then.
No, we're doing Blue Monday, Blue Monday."
As Hooky starts to beat on the syndrums, Barney goes up to him
and whispers something in his ear, and points backstage. Don't
know what that's about. Steve Morris comes out from behind the
drum kit and takes keyboards. Phil plays a different guitar line
than what I've heard before during the second verse. And Barney
goes on keyboards, too.
_World___In___Motion_
Left off of the DVD. Bah!
_Your___Silent___Face_
You can't tell from the editing that NO had gone off stage again
and come back. For the first time, you can actually _see_ the
autocue, it's an LCD monitor!
BS: "Where's Hooky?" (huh? He's right next to you!)
Well, later, Hooky goes off somewhere to sit down. Maybe the
old geezer is tired. The first song in rock to ever feature
a melodica solo. And the best bassline ever.
BS: "Thank you very much, it's been great playing London again.
You've been a fucking great audience, thanks for putting up with
us. Hope to see you again soon, good night."
PH: "Thank you very much, God bless, take care."
All I have from this one is SLC and KW1, as well as some Realmedia
of the videos for this one. Barney actually looks decent in this
one, unlike some of his 2001 appearances. He has a star on his
t-shirt.
Transcription has taken so long due to the length of most of Bernard's
between-song banter.
_Crystal_
Barney spends much of the bridge tuning his guitar!
BS: "Yo! Thank you very much! Thanks a lot."
_Transmission_
BS: "It's great to be here in Sweden. It's one of my favorite
countries. Seriously, it is, I mean that! The girls are so beautiful
here and...the girls are so beautiful here and...the girls are so
beautiful here. This is a Joy Division song, it's called Transmission."
Afterwards...Bernard whispers in Hooky's ear.
BS: "Thank you very much."
_Regret_
BS: "Is this been a good festival for you? (cheers) What's been the
highlight of the festival so far? What about the Chemical Brothers?
(cheers) Very good friends of ours...What about England beating...
beating... Denmark, today? (he smiles having japed the crowd)
We got a Swedish coach anyway, haven't we anyway, we got a Swedish
coach. Right, Hooky? Yo? This is Regret."
Some weird vocal gremlins when Bernard sings 'Just what they all say...
just before they fall apart."
BS: (at end) "Yo!"
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Find it hard to get a sequencer Jerry, or Roger? Is the sequencer
there? You know, to sequence stuff? Okay, Just give me a second, I'm
going to have a drink. (guitar riff) and...tune up... we're very
professional these days, we have to be in tune with each other, we
realize that. Even Steve (he bangs his kit here). You tune them drums
up! Okay, be patient, be patient! This is a track off our new album,
which is called Get Ready. It's called 60 Miles An Hour, which is
120 kilometers an hour. It's about erm, driving really fast.
Sequencers up. Especially top lines."
He messes a couple lines, can't even read the autocue right.
At least his glasses disguise him a bit there.
Hooky plays loudly over the bridge.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Yo! Jerry, maybe we need a bit more side fill and a bit more
of the kind of, er, sequence stuff, especially the high stuff. Apart
from that, it's all right, I think.
PH: "One, two, three, four."
BS: "This is Atmosphere. A bit more fill, Jerry, A bit more fill.
And side fills."
PH: "One, two, three, four."
_Brutal_
BS: (tuning guitar) "Let me find a place on the guitar to play this [a
couple of other words mumbled] Okay, this is a song that you ne...
probably never heard before, and we did it for a film called "The Beach",
the Beach staring Leonardo...eh...DiCaprio, and em, it's called Brutal."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
PH: "Oh, we've having some fucking problems tonight. Such is life.
What would life be like without problems? Lucky you, I think you've
got a lot of f ucking problems, you know what I mean? [cackles]"
BS: (interrupting) "Okay, this is a song..."
PH: "We're not into perfect."
BS: "This is a song from, eh, when we were in a group called
Joy Division, and it's called She's Lost Control."
BS: "Featuring Stephanie DeMorris on drum, Pierre Hook on bass, and
Mr. Phil Cunningulus on...er, lick."
They play SLC.
BS: "Thank you very much."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
Here Bernard is wearing sunglasses and white hi-tops, and indulges in
some freaky dancing.
BS: "Thank you very much. That was going back quite a few years in
our repetoire. What we are going to play for you now, for those that
don't like guitars, is our synthesizer set. And we're going to start
with a song called Bizarre Love Triangle. And it's all about when
Peter, our bass player...here, met Phil in prison, and they were
sharing a cell with someone called Big Daddy, and is about the bizarre
love triangle that went on in that cell."
(oh...kay...)
BS: (gesturing towards Roger Lyons) "And that's Big Daddy over there
behind that little computer, his name's Roger. We all met in prison."
A few seconds later.
BS: "David Beckham!"
_True___Faith_
Phil is playing a few notes on piano in between.
BS: "Has anyone got like a stretcher...or some pure oxygen? So are you
enjoying our set so far? [cheers] We're trying very hard to give you a
good time because we know that you've all been stuck there in the pissing
rain all day. Now, us being from England, we're used to all that rain,
but you being from beautiful Sweden, it never rains here, is that right?"
[more cheers]
BS: "Well, I believe from all the porno films I've seen in the hotels
here you're very keen on pissing on each other. Is that right? Cuz...
if there's anyone [giggling] that wants to piss on Phil here at the end
of the show, please come backstage. All right, ok. This is a song called
True Faith."
Ouch. Sucks to be Phil, I guess.
BS: (when Hooky starts playing his bass): "Fucking 'ell, that's a bit loud."
This is an "afraid what they'll see" version.
BS: "Thank you."
Hooky ends it with a big bass vamp.
BS: "Hello everybody, my name's Bernard. Give us a second while we tune
up, please. The band are out of tune, therefore I am singing out of tune.
Even you're out of tune.
Heckler can be heard shouting out something or another.
BS: "You speak English very well, did you learn it from a book?"
PH: "I beg your pardon, that's no way to talk to Bernard."
BS: "My name's Bernard." (in strange accent)
_Temptation_
BS: "This is Temptation."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Ok, this is the last song we're going to play tonight. Well, you
know what? It's getting very late, and you should all be back in your
tents in bed."
Strummed guitar chords, and Hooky's 1-2-3-4 count-in.
(at the end)
BS: "Yo! Thank you very much. You've been a great audience. We've been a
great band. We've enjoyed each other very much. Let's hear it for Sweden!
And Manchester! Goodnight, everyone."
(first encore)
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "We came back for more. You should all be asleep in your tents
because if you look at the sky over there it's getting light. This
is, erm...erm, Blue Monday, I believe, ya. It's fucking crap, innit?"
As well as a bit more muttering a bit into the intro.
After the part where Barney says "now I stand here waiting", he calls
out "bass sequencer".
Ends in wails of feedback.
BS: "Well, I'm sorry about all the corny feedback at the end. Everyone
does that, don't they? Every fucking band...every band you've seen
at this festival." Bernard pulls away from the mic.
_World___In___Motion_
BS: "All right, in view of England...all right in view England's, eh,
3-nil victory over Denmark tonight, we just got to rub it in a little
bit, and this is our England World Cup song from a few years ago. It's
called 'World In Motion'.
Somebody in an a "Bench" shirt does the John Barnes rap bit. Who
is this? Hooky calls out "All together now!" as the music thins
out so folks can sing along.
PH: (near the end, a singalong bit) "All together now."
PH: (singing) "We're playing this song..."
BS: [interrupting] "Thank you!"
PH: (singing) "We're singing for England...."
He sings this very slowly, so Barney interrupts again.
BS: "Hang on, hang on, hang on, wait a minute, [muttering...]...you're
probably wondering why we're singing that song in Sweden..."
PH: (singing) "Arrividercci, it's one-on-one...."
BS: "It's finished!"
PH: "I'm just enjoying it!"
BS: "We're singing that song because we've been graced with the great
Swedish person in England, Sven Goran Ericsson [the coach of the team].
We've got a few good players as well, though."
(second encore)
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "My name's Bernard." (in that strange voice he used earlier)
BS: "Okay, we're gonna chill things out a little bit now, because this
really is the last song, it's called 'Your Silent Face'."
_Great_ version, as always.
BS: "Thank you, it's been great to play Sweden. You've been a
great audience. Thank you very much for putting up with us!
Thank you, good bye."
Hooky closes out with a thunderous bass solo.
Source posted by dropdeadfred in EZT. The neat part is when you
can hear the rain coming down.
Band is introduced in German. Would be good to get a translation
at some point. House PA music comes, and is faded out.
Then Alan Wise starts talking. We catch him in progress.
AW: "...pitch, from the band. I want to introduce to you somebody
that's only sixteen, the ones that's next to this bugger(?)...
C'mon Paul Romaine...this guy's from Manchester, we all got our
Manchester culture, it's not one suburb, now look at him, now he's
ruined for life. Unlike the guys I'm going to introduce to you,
five lovely boys, New Order!."
BS: "Hello! Sorry about the rain. Boy Garbage say "We're
only happy when it rains", and as Travis say, what does
Travis say Hooky? Hooky watch your level, man.
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna start with Crystal."
Bernard calls "C'mon!" and whistles before the "keep it coming" part.
BS: [whistles] "Yoooo! Who gives a fuck about the rain?"
Well, that's it, I do. It's quite uncomfortable and it's making
my guitar strings go rusty."
Hooky stums bass a bit, and is cut off by Bernard.
BS: "Hooky can you turn down a little bit, please? Jerry, where are
you? Jerry? Jerry?"
_Transmission_
BS: "We can go way back into history now, we're gonna play a song
by Joy Division called Transmission."
Opening is a bit shaky here.
BS: "Yo! Danke schun.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, have you had a good festival so far? I'm sorry about the rain
but we're English, and we're from Manchester, and everywhere we go it
fucking rains. You don't know what it's like, honestly. But after a
few years, you get used to it. In fact, we don't really regret it, so
this is Regret."
BS: "Yeah! Okay, let's tune up, just give us a second."
BS: "I'm really going to apologize about the rain. Jerry, can you put a
bit more top on the vocal, a bit more guitar and a bit more top on it, a
bit more compression on the vocal.
Twangy guitar strum.
BS: "I'm coming for the rabbit out of your ass at the same time."
(what the hell is this about?)
_Ceremony_
BS: "Did anyone see England get beat in the World Cup yesterday? It was
really sad, wasn't it? Because we didn't GET TO PLAY GERMANY!"
Morris hits a rim shot.
BS: "Eins-spei-drei-free-foo...Eins-spei-drei"
Digital stutter at 1:40.
BS: "Yeaaahhhhay. Thank you, thank you, thanks for putting up with the
rain. C'mon, rain more, it's not enough! It's not raining enough and
we want it to rain some more cuz we're not wet enough.
BS: "Is everybody having a good time at this festival? Don't think about
what you're gonna do when you get back to your tents and all your tents
are going to be really wet when you wake up in the morning, your
sleeping bag's gonna be wet. Come and stay at our hotel. No matter
how bad it is for you lot out there, it's worse for us staying at a ho... [cuts]
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a song now, it's called 60 Miles An Hour, which
is about how many...it's about 100 kilometers an hour, and it's off our new
album which is called Get Ready."
Scream at 3:22, followed by fairly sloppy guitar playing.
BS: "Yooo! [whistles] All right, Davey, my guitar's out of tune, I
need the 330."
BS: "...out of tune."
Sounds of instuments being tuned, most notably a keyboard that sounds
like somebody is hitting random keys on. A true cachophony of noises.
BS: "Let...let it rain some more, it's not raining quite enough."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna chill things out a little bit now, we're gonna play
two long, slow songs, first one is called Your Silent Face."
At 2:40...
BS: "Yo!"
BS: "Thank you, merci beaucoup, danke schun. All right, please stop
raining, please stop raining, I give in! We are aware everybody's
wet, Jerry, mate, here monitor's fucked, so we have mainly my voice
through these wedges, I mean I'm hearing it mainly from out front,
can't be through here, just a buzz. Can I have Steve down, Steve
down a bit.
BS: "Okay, despite the rain, is anybody having a reasonably good time?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm..." [cut]
_The___Beach_
We're gonna play a song now that you've probably never heard before,
it's a song from a film called The Beach, starring Leonardo DiCaprio,
and it's a very rare New Order song, we've only playhed it three times.
well, we've only palyed it twice, and this is the third time. So,
listen!
Actually, Bernard was right when he said "three".
BS: "Danke schun, Baader-Meinhorf"
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Okay, we're going to play an old Joy Division song now, we're not
going to play a song called Close Range, we're going to play a song called
She's Lost Control. By Joy Division, which is a group we used to be in a
long, long time ago. Hope you enjoy it. And it goes something like this."
[whistles]
Hooky's bassline falters, given the conditions, quite understandable.
Bernard yells at him like a madman.
BS: "HEY HOOKY, YOU GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!"
Which he does, of course.
BS: "Thank you!"
Ends with synth.
PH: "I want to tell you all God bless you, you fuckers. You fucking...
Fucking shit man, you're welcome. It's fucking horrendous, isn't it?
Stevie(?), mate, it's all your fault, you bastard. They'll gonna give
you another vascectomy later."
BS: "Sorry about..." [cut]
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, we're going to leap forward a few decades to the 1980s, with
Bizarre Love Triangle. It's about when Hooky met Phil in prison. Hooky
was Big Daddy, and Phil was Mummy."
Glitch at 2:18.
BS: (at end) "Yeah!"
PH: "Oh!"
Long pause, and a feedback squall.
_Temptation_
BS: "We are going to play a song for you now that's called Temptation."
Hooky makes a sound like a stuck pig. Or was that Bernard. One of them.
The sound gets noticably better here, a lot less muffled. A storming version,
too. In fact, the performances from hereon in are top-notch, in my opinion.
BS: "Yo!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Unusual intro with guitar being strummed, probably because everything's
soaked.
BS: "This is Love Will Tear Us Apart. Hooky's just g... fucking with
his bass, he can't play it."
PH: "C'mon you fucking..."
Somebody says something close to the mic I can't make out right after he
says this.
BS: "Thank you very much. You've been an absolutely fantastic audience
for putting up with this rain. Well, I say FUCK THE RAIN! But we have
got nice hotels for that too. Thanks very much, Hamburg, you're grand,
you've been a fucking great audience. We'll come back and play in
June again. Thank you. Danke schun!"
Fans clap a bit, and then somebody starts to play guitar on stage a bit.
Girls cry from "Blauer Montag"...
PH: "What are you fuckers like, anybody want to go home? [chuckles]
I love you all, jesus christ, I've never seen a fucking better sight
in my life. I've never been this wet in me fucking life, either.
All right, God bless you!"
BS: "Bonjour? Jerry? Can't seem to [something] Must've tried...
_Digital_
BS: "Digital, by Joy Division."
PH: "Jerry, more bass please!"
At 0:50 Bernard says somthing like, "Gary, fill."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Thank you!"
PH: "I give this one to Miles...you...fucking...cockney swa..."
(can't make out this at all, can anybody help?)
BS: "Now if you two would just turn around a little bit.
Hooky says something else, I can't make out, still whining
about something.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna finish now with a song that we have to play
everywhere everwhere, anywhere we play, we have to play Blue Monday.
AND WE FUCKING HATE IT!!.
Bernard barks 1-2-3-4 in German during the intro.
He starts to stumble on the last part on the first verse, almost
speak-singing here.
After the second verse, Bernard loses it.
BS: "ARGH! THIS IS RIDICULOUS
And a bit later on...
BS: "FUCKING' GREAT!"
Announcer: "New Order, [rest is in German]"
Received from DIME. This is a very good quality audience recording,
slightly distant, with lots of audience participation in the forms of
claps, whistles, and German punters calling out for "Confusion".
Female announcer speaks (in German)...and then is drowned out by
claps and whistles.
Bass and then guitar and some keys to Crystal can be heard.
Inexplicably, some krauts start chanting for 'Confusion'.
_Crystal_
BS: "Hey! We are...New Order. And we hear we played like shit
the night before. But we hope you'll enjoy the set tonight.
We'll start with a song off our last album, it's called Crystal."
Volume increase at 1:42.
BS: "Peter!"
Loud whistling at end.
BS: "Jerry, can someone bring these please? Eahh! I'm tired, and it's
only the first song."
_Transmission_
BS: "This is an old song by our former group Joy Division. It's called
Transmission. Hooky's got a few problems here, because we played in
Hamburg last night. And the gig got totally rained out, and the stage
was an inch deep in rain. We've got a few problems in our equipment.
Hooky's got a few problems with his equipment anyway. [he strums bass]
Bear with us, bear with us."
More bass strumming, into the intro, followed by a bum note.
Bernard whistles at 3:17. Ouch.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "We've got better rooms, we had a lot of problems last night, and
our gear got soaking wet. But we're gonna soldier on. Turn Hooky down
a bit, Jerry, the side fill. You're right, Hooky..."
Hooky is soundchecking the bassline to the next song, meanwhile.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Regret."
BS: "Thank you!" More calls for Confusion.
_Ceremony_
Annoying whistling at about 0:10 in.
A scuffle at 3:50 and some chatter (in English and then German) at the
4:00 mark. Digital stutter at 4:47.
BS: "Hey! Thank you very much." Hooky strums bass.
Loud German chattering here, followed by feedback.
_Sixty___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Sorry about that feedback. For this is a song off our last album,
called 60 Miles An Hour.
BS: (at end) "'k you!"
Punter calls out for Blue Monday a couple of times.
BS: "Is everyone having a good time? Think you've had a good festival?
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "We're gonna chill things out a little bit with a slow song. It's very
beautiful. It's called Your Silent Face."
At, 2:06, BS: "C'mon...child(?), make the front...it'll cause you trouble(?),
man."
Bernard sings "so why don't you shut up" instead of the usual "piss off".
BS: "Thank you. Brutal mess, man(?). Listen, If you can chill out a bit at the
front because we don't want anyone to get hurt, I see people are getting crushed
up front. We don't want anyone to get hurt. We want everyone to have a
good time, and no one to get hurt. A bit like the World Cup.
_Brutal_
BS: "Okay, this is, erm, a song we did for a film called 'The Beach'. We
very rarely play it live. It's called Brutal."
Dawn Zee vocals are prominent in this one.
BS: "Okay! Damien, can I have the SG, please? Listen, man, you've got
to chill out in front because someone's gonna get seriously hurt.
C'mon, you've got a great couple of days in this festival, we don't want
anybody to get hurt. C'mon, just chill out and have a good time!"
The old Bernard would have said the same thing, but then quipped that he
really didn't give a fuck, but it sounded good to say.
_Close___Range_
BS: "Okay, this is Close Range."
Digital glitch at 2:32.
This version is somewhat unformed.
BS: "Listen, chill out, chill out, we don't want anyone to get hurt.
It's fucking hot in here, we've come here for a good time, we don't want
any broken bones."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Okay, this is a Joy Division song, it's called She's Lost Control,
and it features Mr. Peter Hook on bass. That's Stephen Morris on drums,
and Mr. Phil Cunningham, who's my assistant."
This is a *very interesting* quip, as Cunningham _was_ Bernard's
assistant during Twisted Tenderness (at least the live promotional
performances on music shows and the like)
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Jerry, Hooky's busting me out, but I'm coming from Phil's monitors or
something. Okay, you may noticed that I've put my guitar down, [Hooky
exclaims something I can't make out at this point] so we'll start playing
songs that feature the synthesizer. This is Bizarre Love Triangle."
Some German chatter at 3:00 mark.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is an old hit of ours, it's called True Faith."
PH: "Always(?) love your enemy." [What's this about?]
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
PH: "You're very kind."
BS: "Thank you for the shoe. It's my size as well."
Good one.
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a song called Temptation."
BS: "Danke schun"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "I'm afraid it's come to that time of night, and this is our last
song. It's an oldie but a goodie, it's called Love Will Tear Us
Apart."
Hooky does his standard "Here we go!" during the bridge.
BS: "Thank you very much you've been a fantastic audience in
Sttutgart. As we say, Merci Beaucoup."
Fans start chanting 'New Order'...
BS: "Okay, this is my, um, favorite song that we've ever written. It's
called Atmosphere. It's a song by Joy Division. We are Joy Division."
BS: "Hey, wrong tune."
BS: "Danke schun, danke schun."
Folks call out for "Rock The Shack". How weird.
_Digital_
BS: "What will we play next, Hooky? This is Blue Monday, I guess..."
[The drum machine beats start]
BS: "Whoa, it's not, whoa it's not, c'mon...whoa whoa...this is
Digital...
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "This is Blauer Montag. Das ich Blauer Montag." Somebody's still
calling ot for RTS, go figure.
Ear splitting whistle by Bernard at 1:40.
BS: "Thank you, good night, you've been a great audience! Thank you
Stuttgart, Germany. Hope you win the World Cup!"
Source is from Alex Staszko's master. The tape comes in slightly
late, missing the first few seconds of Crystal. Levels fluctuate
as Alex is presumably trying to get the best sound levels, so the
bass is distorted while this is going on.
See http://www.music-dash.co.uk/live/archivelive.asp?item=54 for
his account of the gig.
BS: "One - two."
_Transmission_
BS: "Thank you guys! For this next song, we'd like to welcome from the
Red Hot Chili Peppers, John Frusciante. Hey, Wait a minute, he got a
bigger cheer than I did! This is a Joy Division song called Transmission."
BS: "Thank you! Thank you, John!"
_Regret_
Lots os chatter before this one.
BS: "I'm out of breath in there. I'm out of breath. This is an old
song of ours called Regret."
BS: "Thank you. Okay, just give us a second while we tuning up."
Punters grouse, "For fook's sake"...Hooky tunes bass and reprises a
bit of Regret's bassline.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "This is a track off our last album, it's called 60 Miles An Hour."
The band are completely out of sync, especially Hooky, resulting in a
breakdown.
BS: "I'm sorry we fucked the start of it up. This time we'll get it right.
And you know what, it adds a bit of anarchy to the show."
The second attempt isn't much better to be honest.
Folks start chanting, just as they would on a football pitch.
BS: "Is everyone in the crowd having a good time. It's all right
here, it's not bad, it's all right. Well, we got a beautiful sunny
day today for this festival. We just played in Germany, I'll tell
you, it pissed down all the time. It's three for Manchester, we play
for joy(?)"
Somebody calls out "Win the fucking England Cup".
_Your___Silent___Face_
Okay, this is going to chill you out a little bit, so that you get a
break. This is Your Silent Face, [mutters] beautiful song.
BS: "Muchas gracias!"
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, this is a Joy Division song, it's called Atmosphere."
BS: "Merci beaucoup!"
Some Ole chanting.
_Close___Range_
BS: "All right. This is Close Range."
BS: "Thank you!"
Sound of a guitar buzzing
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Must apologize for my assistant guitarist there. His equipment isn't
up too much. He has very small equipment, whereas I have superb equipment.
Sow(?) yer fuckin' life out, here we go."
BS: "Thank you very much. Most of you probably heard...never heard
that song before. We wrote it a very long time ago. It's called She's
Lost Control."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "This next song we're gonna play now does not feature any guitars
whatsoever. It's a bit of a dance tune, it's called Bizarre Love
Triangle. It's about when Hooky met Phil in prison. Hooky was
Big Daddy, and Phil was mommy."
BS: "Thank you. Jerry couldn't believe our ballad(?). (breaths hard)
I fucking golf now. That was BS."
Bass strumming.
BS: "Is everybody having a good summer's evening here in Dublin?
You said no! Wouldn't you rather be at home watching television now"
What's wrong with you? Still...Phil, stop fucking around and get on
with it!"
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
BS: "Thank you very much."
PH: "Where's my fat ugly mate gone down here, who the wrecks up on yer
fat ugly cunt, there you are!" [chuckles] Oh, delightful, I love
to see children enjoying themselves, but you go out and watch yer
mum and dad [something] you fat twat."
BS: "What did he say? I can't ever heard what he said."
[Like to figure out what *that* was about]
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Cut at 3:25. Whoops. I guess that's how it was.
Writeup missing the encore tracks, ATRs tape cut short it seems.
The sound is more gig-like than some of the other "cleaner"
recordings. The FM broadcast (or the webcast thereof)
doesn't include the first three songs. There's also an
audience version as well that is very listenable, though
there's static in certain places, and yet another version
with Bernard's hello.
_Crystal_
(not present on FM broadcast)
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. I'll say that again. We're New
Order."
BS: "Hooky, you're a bit loud there man. Okay, this is Crystal.
C'mon Phil, not again! It's just a piece of gear."
At 02:36, 5:10, and 5:32, there's static in the right channel
(mic connection problems).
(at end)
BS: "Okay, Jerry a bit more top on the voice, a bit more top
on the guitar, a bit more top on the guitar track, a bit more
top on the drums, a bit less top on the bass [cackles slightly]
apart from that, it's alright."
_Transmission_
BS: "This is Transmission."
Bernard's guitar into is a bit off at the start.
BS: "Whoa, thank you. Whoa. Jerry, drums down a bit."
_Regret_
lady announcer, with British accent:
"...to the Orange stage where the four members of New Order are
playing right now. And I'm waiting for a signal, and we are
broadcasting now!"
Only the last minute or so of this song is broadcast. Naturally,
the audience versions captures it in full.
BS: "Yooowwww! Hooky, where are you? Hello, Peter? Just turn it
down a little bit, please."
_Ceremony_
BS: "We call him the wandering minstrel."
Sounds fantastic, except for the first few seconds, where there's no
sound in the right channel! The audience version doesn't have this
problem.
On the audience versions, there's static at 2:07 (same deal as
Crystal above).
BS: "Thank you."
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Where's that fucking music coming from? Turn the disco off!"
(one of the other stages was playing techno or somesuch, which you
can hear throughout this gig.)
Bernard continues:
BS: "It's not a fucking wedding you know, it's a rock concert! This
is 60 Miles An Hour, it's off our latest album, which is called Get
Ready. Get fucking ready, because here we come!"
Hooky's bass is out of time with the rest of the group in the intro.
On the audience version, there's static at 4:03 (same deal as above).
BS: "Thank you. Merci Beaucoup."
_Atmosphere_
Hooky plays bass riff a bit.
BS: "Okay, we're gonna hop back a few years now, about 23, to
be precise. This is a song called Atmosphere."
They play it.
BS: "Thank you! Jerry, you better take this [Gibson] 330 out in
front, otherwise it's going to feedback like fuck. And we can do
with a little bit more fill." (not Phil).
_Brutal_
BS: "Okay, is everybody having a good time? Okay, we're going to
stop all that, because we're going to play a fucking down song.
[Steve pounds skins twice] Because we're miserable bastards from
Manchester. But we beat England in the World Cup. And we beat
Scotland in the World Cup. Or Scotland weren't even in the World Cup.
[Steve hits cymbals to signify a punchline delivered]"
(after)
BS: "Yo, thank you!"
_Close___Range_
BS: "Jerry, can I have the keyboard..st....up."
BS: "Thank you. I am fucked."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
PH: "Anyway, this one's for John Entwistle...God bless him, got the best
band in Heaven...fuck me."
BS: "This is She's Lost Control."
A very good version of this as well. In the future, I will
have slightly more substantive comments.
BS: "Thank you very much."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "This is...this next song...a song called Bizarre Love Triangle, and
the lyrics are about when Hooky met Phil in prison, Hooky was Big Daddy,
Phil was mommy, and they formed a bizarre love triangle."
They play the song.
On the audience version, you can hear some Bernard say something
off-mic, but it's almost impossible to make out.
BS: "You have to excuse us, we've gone on tour for a week, and we're
all fucked. Whole week."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
Hooky yells out "Morning Sun!" at 2:25. A bit later on, he says, "I
love you.".
Hooky ends it with a monsterous riff.
BS: "Turn the fucking disco off!". Never thought to ever hear him
utter those words, but again, he's directing this towards an adjacent
stage.
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
after...
BS: "Yooooo! Thank you very much. Is everyone having a good time?"
[cheers] "That's what we...what we're all here for."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
A few emphatic "c'mon's" and "yeah's" here.
BS: "Thank you, you've been a great audience! It's been great
to play here in Copenhagen. Thank you, good night!"
A bell rings, and there's some clapping, as well as some strummed
bass. Cheers go on for a minute or two until the Order come back
on stage.
_Blue___Monday_
PH: "Hey, it's been a long time, Roskilde, and God bless you, you're
still as good as I remember. So, just for you, because we never normally
play it...Roger, it it!"
Static at 0:30 on audience version.
BS: (at about 0:50) "Hah!" (at 1:20) "Bass sequencer up."
(at 1:30) "Hey, hah!". At 1:35, there's the famous god-awful whistling,
another one at 2:10.
lyric: "If it wasn't for your big penis, I'd be a heavenly person today."
BS: "Thank you."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "We're gonna leave...we're gonna play one more song for you, and
then we're gonna leave the stage for our very good friends Primal Scream,
whom will be...I'll be staying to watch...all the way from sunny Scotland.
This is a song that we've not played too much, it's called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you, good night, you've been a fantastic audience! Good
night..." (broadcast version fades at this point) Denmark, good Night
Copenhagen!"
Have this from MP3s made from 'move cd 1'. Audience recording, very
trebly, but still listenable.
An unknown individual introduces Alan Wise:
"Congratulations Manchester on a fantastic rendition of "Anarchy In
The UK". Fantastic. Right. I am not here to compere or introduce
Joy Division or New Order. My job is to introduce Alan Wise, who
always introduces Joy Division / New Order. Ladies and gentlemen,
a big hand for Alan Wise!"
AW: "Ladies and gentlemen [he slurs this] things are changin',
and I've been thinking about them, like every New Order fan,
I've been thinkin'. Cricket's changing, innit? First of all
the five day game, then the three day game, then the limited
over game, and now six wankers that take drugs on the stage.
Welcome to Old Trafford, New Order!"
_Love___Vigilantes_
PH: "Good evening, nice to be back. Thank you!"
BS: "Hello! It's a beautiful night here in Manchester, and we're
gonna play our hearts out for you. This is Love Vigilantes."
Bernard screams "yeah!" at the end. Chants of "New Order" start
up.
_Crystal_
BS: "This is Crystal."
_Transmission_
BS: "Great playing our hometown of Old Trafford. We're gonna head
back to the tender years of our youth. This is a Joy Division song
called Transmission.
_Regret_
PH: "This one's for you, Bowser! Happy Birthday, mate! No regrets!"
BS: "Okay we're gonna pump it up a little bit now, this is a song called
Regret."
Bernard screams "Yeah" at the end.
_60___Miles___An___Hour_
BS: "Is everyone having a good time? Great."
Somebody strums, and there's female chatter.
BS: "Just give us one second while we tune up. All right, now we're
tuned up. This is 60 Miles An Hour."
(at end)
BS: "Yeaahh! Jacko, you got the 330 please?"
_Brutal_
BS: "Okay, uh...we're going to do this song which is very difficult
on this particular guitar I've got. It's a song we've never played
here in Manchester, we did it for a film called 'The Beach', and it's
called Brutal."
Solid rendition.
BS: "Thank you we gotta play something new, something old, something
borrowed, something blue. Jerry can you turn the BB's down a little
bit, please."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
(some muttering I can't make out"
PH: "Well, I suppose we should dedicate this one to John Entwhistle,
God bless him. Cuz I fucking loved him and I don't care about you.
Thank you Steve, any time you're ready."
BS: "This is She's Lost Control."
Which they play.
BS: "Merci Beucoup."
BS: "This is going to be our last gig for some thing because we're
gonna go back into the studio and record another album. So please
enjoy it as much as we're enjoying it. We're give you each a form
at the end of the show, and if you can give us marks, A, B, or C,
A is very, very good, B is okay, and C is dogshit. We hope not to
get many C's."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
Barney whistles loudly at the start.
Brief dropout near end.
BS: "Richard, [breath] please..." [can't totally make this out]
Barney pants.
BS: "Thank you very much. Can you go home now?"
PH: "Fucking lost it a bit here, did anyone notice? All right, Twinny!
Where are you mate? Twinny!"
_Touched___By___The___Hand___Of___God_
BS: "This is Touched By The Hand Of God"
At 3:57, Barney yells out "1-2-3-4", in German.
BS: "Thank you." Somebody woos, don't know if it was on stage.
BS: "Is this guitar out of tune, I can't fucking tell. Is there a
musiciam in the audience. There's none on fucking stage. Only a
joke, only a joke!"
Crowd starts to chant, "New Order, New Order..."
BS: "Kindly think of a better tune than that, I like the chant, I
like the words, but we need a better tune guys. How about this one?"
The band then play _True___Faith_ (Perfecto version)
PH: (growls out at 4:25) "Fookin' 'ell, how's [odds]?"
BS: "Okay, okay, we're getting warmed up a little bit now.
You lot getting warmed up. We're having a rare beautiful
day here in Man, the shun...the sun is shining down on us.
Make the most of it. Okay, let us tune up one more time.
Give us five minutes.
I suppose we gotta say hello to Martha Boulton, who's wife(?)...the
first day on earth today, God bless her.
_Temptation_
Alrighty, all right, this is Temptation. We all want to sing all
ong, which is, "Up down, turn around, please don't let me hit the
ground.".
lyric: "Last fucking time!"
BS: "Thank you!" Hooky vamps a bit.
_World___In___Motion_
BS: "All right, all right. We got a special guest to introduce. His
last record flopped, so he's come crawling back to us. Please welcome,
Fathers(?) himself, Mr. Keith Allen. Here he is, the king of cool...
the Prince of Darkness himself, the Prince Of Darkness.
The PA chews up whatever it was that Keith was saying, all I can make
out is "Living legend."
I wrote a song for Keith, we wrote a song for Keith, a World Cup song,
it's called 'World In Motion'!
A bit chaotic right before the intro, three people talk at once.
Fans yell out "Wales" at the End.
BS: "Thanks a lot, you've been a fucking great audience. It's great to play
at Old Trafford. Hail, Manchester. Hail, Rome. Good night! Thank
you, Keith Allen, thank you Peter Hook, thank you Stephen Morris,
thank you, Phil Cunningham, thank you everyone here."
_Digital_
BS: "No rest for the wicked."
Indeed.
Barney yells out "Status Quo" at 2:15, probably in reference
to the riffs. Haha.
BS: "Sometimes, you know, it's a competition with New Order
who finishes the fucking song last. And I always seem to lose!"
_LWTUA_
Some silence in the beginning. Guy and gal start altering
"c'mon" calls.
PH: "This one dedicated to all of you, Manchester, because I'm
fucking proud to live here. Thank fuck for that. 1-2-3-4!"
At 2:05, Barney yells out, "C'mon!" and "Yeah". Hooky yells
out, "Stephen Morris." Followed by an ear-piercing whistle and
a "yeah".
BS: "Thank you very much.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "You gotta ask yourself, could they have possibly have any more
good tunes to play tonight? Well they thought it was all over, it is
now."
This is the version with Kylie's 'Just Can't Get You Out Of My Head'
mixed in. I guess not. :)
Nah, it's actually pretty good.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Thank you, you've been been absolutely fucking great audience.
I'm sorry for swearing, but on occasions like this I've been known to.
I'm going to chill you out tonight with a really sort of chilled-out
song just to send you all home happy, it's called Your Silent Face."
At 2:10 Barney states, "Jacko, man."
BS: "Thank you very much, It's been an honor playing in front of
you here. You've been a fucking great audience. Old Trafford's
great, Manchester's great, Salford's great, we're great, everything's
great, what do we got to worry about? Good night!"
Only a little bit more before tape is faded out.
Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys introduce the winners of the
NME's "God-Like Genius" award, to a standing ovation.
The first thing Hooky does is hug Tennant and Low. The second thing
is to toss out the script containing (I assume) the prepared acceptance
script. Then Bernard says a few words. Alan Wise and former band
member Gillian Gilbert are on stage as well, looking surprisingly attractive.
Phil Cunningham doesn't get up on stage, since this involves the "previous
incarnation".
The trophy is a hand, with (of course) a raised middle finger.
Announcer: "We're near the end, these are the Vinegar Strokes [clears
throat]. So it's an alternative band, the Vinegar Strokes. Anyway, and
so we come to the last award of the night, Godlike Genius. To tell you
a bit more about this very special award, please welcome Neil Tennant &
Chris Lowe from the Pet Shop Boys."
They come out to "You Were Always On My Mind" playing on the PA.
Neil Tennant: "Hi. Good Evening. I think few musicians manage to
change the landscape of music once, but three of the people in this band
have done it twice. Their first group's unearthly post-punk was as
original and influential as the Velvet Underground had been 20 years
previously. Their second group combinded rock guitars and electronics
in a way that never had been done before, spawning the best selling 12"
single ever, and inspiring generations of bands. The club they owned,
or co-owned, the Hacienda, became the northern crucible of rave culture.
We all went. Classic singles like True Faith, Regret, or Temptation,
continue to unite students and football hooligans alike in dancefloor
ecstasy. 28 years from their first release as Joy Division, they're
still the epitome of Northern cool. Ladies and gentlemen, the winners
of the Godlike Geniuses award, uh...New Order."
The band come out to "True Faith" playing.
BS: "I'd like to thank Neil for a windersful speech, but Chris, I
notice you didn't say anything. Is the feeling mutual or reciprocated,
or did it stick in your throat? I'd like to thank Tony Wilson of
Factory Records for making this IMpossible, and I'ld like to thank the
rest of the band for putting up with my ego for the last 25 years. Over
to Hooky, talking about egos."
PH: "Ah, I think we should say a word for Rob Gretton, Ian Curtis,
Martin Hannet, the people that aren't with us, so eh...this has really
touched me tonight, and really...thanks." Hooky than exhibits quite
an extraordinary tittering laugh, while holding back tears.
BS: "Thank you everyone, and we're honored to get this award, as the
NME helped us in Joy Division when we started out and we were 20
years old, and I hope they continue doing the same thing for many years
to come. Thank you!"
Announcer: "Absolutely brilliant and truly deserved. Oh God, that's
it, it's finished, it's finished, but for one little thing. Firstly,
thank you so much for bearing with us and hope you've enjoyed yourselves,
hope you're pissed up or what4ever, probably had a joint or something,
oh, I don't know what you do. Settle down. And now we have the biggest
treat of them all. For the first time ever at the NME awards, a live
performance by the Godlike Geniuses. Ladies and gentlemen, would you
please give it up to a band whose records you should never throw at
zombies! New Order!"
[last comment is in reference to a scen in 'Shaun Of The Dead' where one
of the protagonists throws a Blue Monday sleeve at one of the undead after
him]
_Krafty_
Phil is on both guitar and keyboards. Bernard has an earpiece now, and
during the first verse is reading from an autocue. This version has
Dawn Zee backing vocals, which sound pre-recorded. The audience
cheering sounds overdubbed, the audience stands mostly still, those
tossers, one of the ladies in the front is even being poured champagne.
Bernard sings, "Mountains, rivers, and the human race" (instead of
"lakes").
The mix is bass and vocal heavy.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Bernard starts with a "1, 2, 3, 4" count-up.
He's playing this with a Rickenbaker brown sunburst.
Shot of the Gilbert sisters dancing along...heh.
Hooky yells out, "Ready, Steeevve!" during the bridge and grunts a bit
later on, with Bernard crying "C'mon" as well.
There are waaay too many cuts.
_Blue___Monday__
This has fully mated with the Kylie song, which is probably for
the better. A couple of whistles after the KW mellotron bit starts,
as well as a "Hey". Broadcast fades this out after three minutes, pity.
The broadcast is titled 'Le Live De Le Semaine'. or "Live This Week"...
There's an announce who introduces the tracks (in French) while "I Told
You So" plays in the background.
_Jetstream_
The band are depicted coming up on stage and strapping their instruments
on.
BS: "Bonjour, Je Ne P... New Order". I'm told while he meant to say,
"We are New Order", he humorously ended up stating "I am New Order".
_Hey___Now___What___You___Doing_
(at end)
BS: "Merci Beaucoup".
_Krafty_
BS: "Hey, this is Krafty."
A bit of actual tuning (playing scales) after this one finishes up.
BS: "Yo. Thank you, thank you."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "We would like to dedicate this to em, our good old friend
Ian Curtis who died, erm, 25 years ago, in eh this May, coming
this May. We would like to ddedicate this song to him because
he helped write it. Thank you."
Bernard mistakenly skips "Is my timing that flawed" line, so he
has to lamely sing the "Respect runs so dry" line twice.
BS: "Thank you. What a fantastic audience, and it's been great.
It's gonna be "si vous plez" back [couple words] France.
Merci beaucoup. Au revoir. See you tomorrow, see you next week,
see you next year."
Transcription from THO recording, which was done 5 feet away from
the stage facing Hooky, but unfortunately suffers the effects of
"brickwalling" (input preamp gain overload), which can for the
most part be treated with crackle removal and from buzzing from
the LCD screen, which luckily was a problem only at the very start.
However, in late 2009, a second version surfaced, which will be
used to fill in on what the THO version misses.
NOOL gets a namecheck in the conversation between THO and GaoBest
that fills up the seven minutes before the band go on. Some choice
quotes:
"OG's, I don't believe I said OGs."
Regarding whether THO would get sleep before the trip to Coachella,
"not much time to sleep". Indeed, this was the case, didn't feel
like sleeping.
"This place is filling up pretty good". We had talked about the
venue not selling out, but it turns out it was nearly full by the
time the band started to play.
There's mention of Badly Drawn Boy (Damon Gough) having once been
a NO roadie. We also talked about the new "No" logo, which I argued
was kind of a continuation of the orange line used in Republic, erm
Get Ready's thematic artwork.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Hello. I'm back."
BS: "Hi, we're New Order, of course. It's wonderful to be back
in San Francisco. I'm ashamed...we've forgot to wear some flowers
in our hair."
BS: "Okay, emm...thanks to the Chemical Brothers for playing with us
on this gig. We're all...are really big fans of theirs, and em, I
thought they did a great set. I'll say that more sincerly...I thought
they were fucking great."
BS: "Now, it's been 25 years since the singer of our first group
Joy Division died, Ian Curtis. We'd like to remember him tonight
by starting with a song that features Hooky's wonderful bass lines
called 'She's Lost Control'.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you! Cheers, thanks a lot. Whoo!"
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Dark song, but we're going to brighten things up a little now."
PH: 'This one's for your boys in Iraq, God bless 'em."
BS: "It's called 'Love Vigilantes'"
(at end)
BS: "Oh, thank you!"
[ 'She's Lost Control' and 'Love Vigilantes' were not recorded
on the THO version due to the recorder being bumped, which either
caused it to pause or not properly save. I remember Barney saying
"I am New Order" (in reference to his badly mangled French intro at
CANAL+)...which he amended to "We are New Order". Hooky dedicated
Love Vigilantes to "your boys in Iraq". ]
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
[ The first minute on the THO version wasn't recorded, again due to the
technical problems with the recorder. ]
BS: "Woooh! Thank you. Jerry, can I have a bit less DBs here?"
Hooky riffs for a second or so.
BS: "Okay, it's a long time since we've played here, but it really
is genuinely good to be back. We're gonna play a track off the, er,
new album, which is called "No" apparently. And, eh, it's called
_Hey___Now___What___You___Doing_."
During the "writing songs on your home computer" lyric, Bernard makes
hand-striking-keyboard gestures.
BS: "Thank you! Thanks for Phil on that one, that was his riff.
Oh God, is it hot! I tell you what, it's hotter than England here.
I hope it's not going to be this hot at Coachella because if it is,
I won't...I won't be able to to take it and I have to storm offstage
like Morrissey does."
The taper guffaws loudly at this comment.
PH: "That big poof".
BS: "Right, this is _Krafty_". The band then proceed to play it.
BS: "Wooh! A bit less kick drum, Dave, please. We're only waiting
for number one, two, three, or four, it's definitely one of them.
Well, for us, that's quite a fun track, is it, it's quite optimistic."
Someone cries for "Temptation".
_Transmission_
PH: "This one's for the young boy that very kindly gave me the Factory
CD last night, I really enjoyed it, so thank you."
(This is in reference to Hooky's DJ stint at the Popscene club the
previous night)
PH: "Okay, Phil."
This version has the synth drone intro restored, unlike the 2002
version, which I remember as not having it. A great improvement, in
my opinion.
BS: "Thank you. Jerry, a bit less of my voice please, and a tad more
of my guitar. Whooh! I'm knackered now, I tell ya. I'm not as young
as I used to be. Neither is anyone, actually."
Phil drops in a house piano bit.
BS: "Okay, we're gonna hop things up now for you disco bunnies in the
audience and play some dance tracks. Did I say 'tracks'? What I meant
to say was 'track'. It's called _True___Faith_.
Also another really good acid squiggle effect during the bridge.
Apparently Roger Lyons (at the direction from the band, of course) had
made several improvements to the songs over the 2002 versions.
_Run___Wild_
Debut version. Everybody was shocked to hear this one!
BS: "A bit more Hooky, Jerry. So we took you up with that one. So
now, we're gonna take you _down_. Andy Liddle, please make sure we
can see the guitar on this one because it's very tricky. It involves
chords with suspenders in them. Okay, this is "Run Wild".
Excellent bass work from Hook.
lyric: "Good times, bad times, around the corner."
BS: "That's the first time we ever played that live, so, er, if it
was...if it was shit, if it...ask for your money back at the desk
and I'll personally guarantee it."
Needless to say, it was not shit. Much better than when they had dug
up Guilty Partner during their end-of-1998 UK gigs.
Here is where THO yells out for "We All Stand", in homage to ATR.
PH: "All right, love, all right." [turns out he was reacting to
Viking Gary down front]
BS: "Okay, we're gonna groove things up a little bit..."
PH: (simultaneously) "You're gonna have a fucking heart attack!"
Ouch.
BS: (continuing) "...now. That was a beautiful song, one of my
favorite songs. Well, that's not saying anything really, is it?
Wha...what does that mean, 'one of your favorite songs'?"
_Jetstream_
BS: "here's another one of my favorite songs. It's off the new
album. It's called Jetstream.
Which the band play, probably the weakest song of the set.
BS: "Thank you! Has anyone got a glass of water please instead
of this...wine. You can all serve this wine later, right, yeah.
Over there please, Phil [directing him to place the water on top
of his amp rather than giving it to him]. This is our roadie Phil.
Well, he's Peter's roadie. Say hello to the audience, Phil."
At this point, a female individual that had apparently elbowed her
way to the front started screaming maniacally, much to the consternation
of those around her.
BS: (continuing) "All the way from England, very fantastic. Okay,
we're gonna bore the ass out of you with another track off the new
album. And this is the title track off the new album, and it's...it's
actually is pretty good, you know. It's all right. It's called
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens'___Call_.
Which in my opinion, is the best of the new songs played tonight.
BS: "Thank you. Whoa. So, we're trying to concentrate on the playing
tonight. A little...a little less jumping, but we're getting to playing
right. It was always our vice. it was either jumping around and the
playing was shit, or the playing's good. Which you want?"
More shouts for Temptation, etc.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "I suppose it'll have to be the bleeding jumping around, won't it.
This is Bizarre Love Triangle, and it's about a relationship between
Peter and Stephen and Ian Curtis that happened a long long time ago
and they all prefer to forget about it. We don't talk about it anymore."
The band take Bernard by surprise by triggering the song early (BS: "whoa,
wot's that?"), in an attempt to get him to shut up.
Bernard's dancing is truly remarkable, as at one point he actually
starts to roll on the floor, which is why you can hear the taper
singing "Like A Virgin". Near the end, Hooky really starts going
wild with his bass, meriting the cries of "How low can you go?" and
"Lower!" from the same loudmouthed taper.
BS: "Ohh, merci beaucoup. thank you. [clears throat] Okay, so I
got a bit carried away there. This is _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_.
[waits a few seconds] Hooky starts this one, don't _you_ Hooky.
PH: "Yes, and I like to take my time, in bed as well as on stage.
Ha ha ha ha."
Good one!
[THO version: Brief internal cut on recording when synths come in.]
Bernard messes up the lyrics, reciting the same line twice.
During the song Hooky yells out, "Go get 'em, boys!" in reference
to a crowd surfer, and when the gel-spiked youth was about to be
grabbed by security, "Don't let them take you, boy!". Hooky also
yells out, "here we go!" at the usual place in the song and urges
the band "C'mon, San Francisco"..."c'mon...c'mon!!!" and "at full
speed!" near the end.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot. It's a good song, innit? I'm getting
too old for this game."
Fans cry for Temptation again. There's a fairly long pause here
between songs.
BS: (quoting from 'Working Overtime') "House music all night
long. Where did it all go wrong?" This is _Temptation_.
According to David Sultan of WiM, Bernard pulls the ligament of
his foot dancing during this song. This affects his mobility
for the rest of the US gigs (unfortunately or fortunately as he
later remarked during the Coachella appearance)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. What's next? If I could reach, I'd give
you all a sip of my wine, but I don't think it'd last too long.
He then sings the John Phillips tune. "If you're going to San
Francisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. If you're
going, c'mon lads, [Hooky joins him] to San Francisco da na na,
[finishing] some happy people there."
The new recording fades out after 'Cheers, thank you.'...and doesn't
capture the acapella bit or the intro to 'Crystal'.
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna round up this corral of songs, we're gonna
ride this rodeo. And this is, [softly] uh, what was it, Crystal
ending? Crystal, I think."
A very good version thereof.
BS: "Thank you, San Francisco! We did our best, we hope it's good
enough. Goodbye, thank you!"
(fade out/in on new version)
The band come back on to encore with _Blue___Monday_. They also
had planned on playing Atmosphere, but could not due to the strict
time curfew of the venue.
[ This song wasn't recorded on the THO version, again, due to recorder
getting paused by mistake.]
This version features the Kylie samples at the end and had Hooky
bass riffs and beating the symdrums all the way to the end, breathing
more life than wont into this hoary chestnut.
Abbreviated set (about an hour) due to the scheduling.
Bernard was wearing a shirt with "Muhammad Ali" on the back, which
was strange. Hooky was wearing a black Adidas pullover, and Stephen
has a shirt with "Bant" (umlaut over the a) on it.
New Order opened with _Atmosphere_, which was supposed to be the
first Oakland encore track but wasn't played due to venue time limits.
BS: "Hello, everyone! We're New Order, all the way from England.
I'm afraid I've hurt my foot, got bit by a shark surfing in LA.
But we'll do our best, and eh, we're gonna start with a Joy Division
song, it's called..."
And indeed, _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_ was dedicated to
David Sultan of WiM, with a joking admonition to "fook off" right
afterwards of course.
gregv reports:
PH: "I've got these fucking phtographers up in my tits. Fuck off,
the lot of you." He was looking and pointing at specific photographers
in the pit when he said it. Hilarious.
Part of the mood may have come from the fact that they had to follow on
the heels of Gang of Four, who managed to pull out one of the most
amazingly true performances of their career- but then, this isn't a Gang
of Four board!
Back to the boys.
Atmosphere. They opened the freaking set with it.
Love Will Tear Us Apart. Hooky dedicated it to Steve, followed by "you
bastard." [this isn't correct, actually, see above]
Bernard had sprained/injured his foot and mentioned it a couple of times
during the show, i.e., he announced that they were going to do a dance
song and asked that we take care of the dancing because he could not.
Enter: "Bizarre Love Triangle."
The sound engineer messed up the bass in the mix for the first couple
songs but got it straightened out. Stuff from "Siren" included "Waiting
for the Siren's Call," "Hey Now What You Doing," "Krafty," and
"Jetstream" (with the Scissor Sister vocal on tape).
Only "Crystal" showed up from Get Ready, but it was massively well
performed and well received. Maybe the best song of the night.
"Blue Monday" got the attention of just about everyone at Coachella when
they wrapped the set with it, but then, it's "Blue Monday" and they're
New Order so no doubt.
Feeling totally fortunate to have seen this great band tonight.
Transcription
Made from MP3 files of what I believe is the DPA recording of the gig.
Also have another version from AK in lossless form, though it seems to
be monaural.
This was the first time that Temptation hadn't been played since the '93
Dublin Point Depot performance. Before that you'd have to go to 1987,
to both the Finsbury Park London and first New York Pier 84 gigs (during
the prior Australian tour, they had alternated nights with and without
this tune.
BS: "Hello, everyone. We are New Order, all the way from England."
(missing from DPA version)
BS: "I'm afraid we're gonna be a little bit static again. I hurt my
foot. I got bit by a shark when I was surfing in LA. But we'll do our
best."
UK punter #1: "C'mon, Barney lad." (DPA)
_Atmosphere_
BS: "And, eh, We're gonna start with a Joy Division song. It's called
Atmosphere."
PH: "1, 2, 3, 4".
(at the end)
BS: "Cheers, thanks, where's the bleeding wine?"
BS: "You know that...chime thing, Jerry, that's a bit loud."
PH: "Philip, my radio is crapping out again.
Guitar chord, and arpeggio.
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
punter: "Sarah!" (AK)
BS: "This is, eh, a song off our new album called Waiting For The
Sirens' Call. And the album is as well. Oh, look, a helicopter!"
(to laughs)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Jerry, can I have a bit more fill please?"
punter chick: "Woooh...Confusion!" (AK) Unlikely.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay. We're gonna...eh, we're going to play Regret now."
(at end)
BS: "Wooh! Cheers, thank you."
PH: "How do I get rid of these fucking photographers? They're getting
on me tits. C'mon, fuck off the lot of ya."
UK punter #2: "Absolutely!" (DPA)
PH: (mumbling) "Fuck, I didn't say that, baldie..."
UK punter #2: "Barney, fuck them off, fuck them all off" (DPA)
BS: "I like (them) to take photgraphs of me, I don't mind."
UK punter #2: "Manchester, na na na, Manchester..." (DPA)
PH: "Ready, Phil?"
UK punter #2" "na na na..." (DPA)
_Transmission_
BS: "'ank you! Cheers, thanks a lot. Is everyone having a good time
here? It's a beautiful setting, it really is. (US punter: "Yeah dude")
I wish I lived here. It sure beats Manchester."
(all comments from the DPA version)
US punter: "A bit warmer..."
BS: "Has anyone been there? Has anybody been to Manchester?"
UK punter #1: "I live there, lad."
BS: "Was that a yes or was that a no?"
UK punter #2: "Manchester...wank wank wank!"
BS: "And did you like it? [shouts of both 'Yes' and 'No'...mixed with no?
That's the right answer. We've got a good football team, though."
_Hey___Now___What___You___Doing_
BS: "This is Hey Now What You Doing, off the new album."
punter: "Fuck off!" (DPA)
BS: "Fantastic(?), thank you!"
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, this is another one off our new album, another one! All
of this starts...get over it, it's called Krafty."
Synth washes at the point where we usually hear Hooky's bass, which
appears to have conked out again.
Encoding glitch (or watermark) at 3:53. (DPA)
BS: "Cheers, thank you." Hooky strums a bit of bass.
_Jetstream_
Third new one in a row. The intro (to 0:31) sounds like it was taken
from a different recording!
BS: "Another new track off our album! Another one! This is Jetstream."
(present on AK version, but DPA version is cut, and another version was used
to patch it)
BS: "Thank you."
Girl shouts for "Confusion" again (AK version).
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Now we're gonna play a dance tune. Unfortunately, I cannot dance
at all because I've torn a ligament in my foot, so you'll have to do
the dancing for us. (scream, AK) Peter here is a bad hand at ballet
(UK punter: "c'mon Hooky lad", DPA) Phil on here has been personally
trained by Michael Jackson, so I'm hoping they're gonna cover for me
tonight. This is Bizarre Love Triangle."
Audience singalong in effect.
BS: "Thank you."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "All right, you don't have to dance to this one, though I suppose
you could if you wanted to."
PH: "This one's for you David, fuck you."
The starting bass is a bit odd, almost like the Cure's Boys Don't Cry.
Another glitch at 0:32.
PH: (at 2:00) "C'mon, Steve!" (at 3:07) "Here we go!".
BS: "Cheers, thank you, thank you!"
punter: "Thank you, God."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, this is Crystal."
PH: "It's nice isn't it, atmosphereic."
Sound of guitar lead getting unplugged.
Lots of cheers after this one.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, we can only play for an hour, unfortunately or fortunately
depending on which way you're looking at it. And yy foot is hurting man.
Eh..em....We're gonna play Blue Monday, I believe."
Features Kylie Minogue's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" vocals at the
start, as well as somewhat interesting instrumentation.
BS: "Thank you. I'm sorry we weren't more animated, but that's life.
Thank you very much." Hooky closes out the set with a slow version of
the BM bass riff.
On the AK version, the annoying chick that yelled for "Confusion",
starts saying, "I'm such a fucking..." at the 5:30 mark. At the
end she says, "What, is this show over! ...Nine Inch Nails is next,
it'll be right here. All right, Nine Inch Nails..."
PH: "Good night, thank you, God Bless!"
Haha, somebody calls her "bitch" at the very end.
From Drew C's writeup for his bootleg:
From venue to DAD in less than 24 hours, I present to you the world's
greatest band live from the world's crappiest venue, New Order at the
Aragon Ballroom in Chicago, IL. The sound in the hall is terrible but
you'd never know it from this recording - it turned out miles and miles
better than I'd ever have dreamed! I was somewhere between 50-100 feet
from the stage, smack-dab in the center of the hall, so I got a decent
stereo mix from both PA stacks. Of course it would have been less boomy
right in front of a stack, but I couldn't get there. So I settled for
the second-best place, and it turned out really wonderfully good, especially
after some magic EQ work to cut down some of the boominess.
The band were in terrific form last night, full of vim and vigor. Quite
talkative too, lots of joking around by Bernard punctuated by the
occasional rimshot (!) from Steve. And of course we can't forget that
Viking bass god Hooky, as marvelous as ever. I tended to tracksplit on
the song intros by Barney, so you'll find most of the banter at the ends
of the songs.
Some notables:
Steve kicked off Hey Now What You Doing too fast, causing Barney to
remark afterwards that it was the "punk version" - and that it must
have been because of all the crystal meth and hotel porn Steve was
addicted to. Hilarious. Preview it here:
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/BarneySays/050503-Steves_on_crystal_meth.mp3
Hooky dedicated Transmission to Joe Shanahan, owner of the Metro/Smart
Bar/Double Door, because "because he makes Chicago feel like home for me".
After Transmission, Barney says that he's going to get his foot amputated
tomorrow, and that Hooky was kind enough to do it with one of his bass
strings (Barney had hurt his foot onstage a few days ago and couldn't
dance around as much as he wanted to).
There are loads more quips, I'll let you discover them yourselves when
you listen ;)
Unfortunately due to equipment mishaps I missed the first 30sec-1min or
so of Love Vigilantes, including Barney's intro stating he'd hurt his foot
surfing in Los Angeles when it was bitten by a shark, hehe... that's why
it fades in rather than a cold start. There's also what sounds like a
skip, if that's the right word, 20 seconds into Love Vigilantes -
that's the spot where I got bumped while my finger was resting on the
mic switch, causing it to switch off and on. I edited out the gap this
caused, but unfortunately you can hear it as a skip instead. Oh well.
Also, my setup doesn't have a strong enough attenuator at the preamp
feed, so there are a few spots where it's overloading (even though I'd
manually adjusted the levels down enough). It's not really enough to
warrant mention, but I thought I would anyway. So there you go... Hope
you enjoy it as much as I did - it was one of the best gigs I've ever seen!
Transcription
_Love___Vigilantes_
Faded up on Drew's recording. It's reported (as above) that Barney said
he had hurt his foot surfing in LA when it was bitten by a shark. And
the aforementioned skip is there.
BS: "Ah, thank you."
BS: "Listen, that little song, it was originally, uh, written about
the war in Vietnam. Apart from getting bitten by sharks...it's not
commonly known this, but I once served in Vietnam [cymbal crash from
Steve] as a photographer, and I got wounded in the foot here which is
why I'm limping tonight. The next song is off our last album, which
is called "Get Ready", which is still available in the shops (cheers)
and it's _Crystal_.
Cheers and woos here.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "It's been a long time since we played in Chicago. Too long!
It's these miserable bastards who won't play here. It was a joke!
We love Chicago because it reminds us of Manchester. Especially
as cold like it is today...it's lovely and cold compared to LA.
To be in Chicago upon a cold day.
_Regret_
BS: "This is Regret."
BS: "Cheers, thank you. We're doing our best, we're doing our best
in the circumstances that we're under. It's all that we can do,
innit. Okay, this is uh, a track off our our new album, the album is
called "Waiting For The Sirens' Call". I'm sure you all know that,
anyway, but if any way ... that hasn't gotten it ... It's pretty good
really. This is called _Hey___Now___What___You___Doing.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "You [unintelligible], it was a bit bloody fast that, Steve.
I don't know if Phil's going to be in the hospital tonight. Hey,
that was Hey Now What You Doing, the punk version. Sorry, Steve
our drummer is just sitting with the crystal meth and speed and all
that stuff there, we tried to talk him out of it but he won't listen
to us [cymbal crash] and hotel poronography as well [another cymbal
crash]. I see you've cleaned up. That was a joke, I'm only joking.
Okay, ah, next song...is _Krafty_, which of course is our new single,
I think."
BS: "Cheers, thank you. That's a brilliant and happy song. I don't
mind playing it(?)"
_Transmission_
PH: "Uh, I'd like to dedicate this one to Joe Shanahan because he
makes Chicago feel like home for me. I'm very greateful for that.
And to the rest of the boys. Hit it, Phil!"
Somebody laughs during the second verse.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Thank you. That of course is a Joy Division song called
Transmission. [Barney's voice is cracking here] I'm running out
of breath, has anyone got any? OK, that's enough of that rock shit,
we want you all to start dancing now. We're gonna play a dance tune.
Unfortunately, I can't dance because of my foot. Actually, I've got
to have it amputated tomorrow. Hooky's kindly offered to do it for me.
[cymbal crash] So knock me on the anesthetic tonight and eh, he's gonna
cut it off with one of...one of his bass strings. Enough of my yacking,
this is True Faith.
This features the "taking drugs with me" lyric.
BS: "Thank you. Is everybody enjoying themselves as much as we are?
Thank you. We do appreciate it."
_Run___Wild_
The band tunes a bit.
BS: "Okay, we're gonna tune the situation down a little bit and play
a song...slow song, it's a...it's a good song off the last album, it's
called Run Wild."
Some chatter during the song.
BS: "Thank you, thank you. Wooh! Drinks are on me, if you all go
to the bar now, you'll get a free drink on me. The drinks are free."
PH: "You told me that 28 years ago and you never paid for it..."
BS: "Including you, Hooky."
_Jetstream_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna leap forward a couple of years in time to our
current album and this is Jetstream.
BS: "Thank you! Nice little touch by Philip at the end there, do it
again, Phil. [he does] Don't get ideas upon the stage. Sacked!
That's a good fun song, we're still all getting happier now as we're
getting older [mumbled]...I'm still in my 20s, Hooky's in his 30s,
Steve's an old-timer. [cymbal crash]"
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, back to the new album, we're gonna play, eh, my favorite
track which of course means it's the best track of the album, and it's
called Waiting For The Sirens' Call.
BS: "Thank you." (Hooky strums bass)
BS: "Oakley dokley, this is _Bizarre___Love___Triangle_."
BS: "We're getting pretty into it [mumble]. Cheers, thank you. Hooky's
looking a bit slutty, you see the state of his hair. That cut [referring
to Hooky's hair], you look like a bloody girl... that's the difference these
days."
PH: "Thank you very much. Bet you say that to all the boys, don't you?"
BS: "Okay, we...we're gonna play _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_."
Hooky mumbles something and then shouts "yeah", and yells during the bridge
in the usual manner that he does during latterday performances of this track.
BS: "Thank you. ...as well."
PH: "I think old Ian Curtis helped us ... [unintelligible]."
BS: "Unfortunately, though we're all having [a great time] this is our
last song (boos). C'mon, you only paid about 5 dollars to get in, what
do you expect? Bleedin' Michael Jackson, y'know? That was a joke. All
right, it's the last one, but it's a good one and John, I need to...the
lights on a little bit so I can see what I'm playing. It's called
_Tempatation_."
BS: "Thank you Chicago! As always, you've been one of the best audiences
in the world and I really do mean that. Chicago is our second home, and...
I'd like to thank these guys who've come all from England. The Vikings.
[referring to the front row.] I don't know why they do that unless they're
fooking nuts. But uh, thanks everyone and we'll see everyone in 20 years!
That was a joke."
New Order leave the stage. And then come back.
BS: "Thank you. [mutters to soundman] If you tune the guitar... Right,
okay, we added an encore and you got a choice of two songs, and we want
you to decide which songs we play. The choices are Atmosphere and Your
Silent Face. Who wants Atmosphere? (cheers) Who wants Your Silent Face?
(louder cheers) We'll play both of them. Do you want us to play both?
All right, it'll cost you extra, you can pay me on the way out, and then
free drinks like I mentioned before."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, let's start with Atmosphere."
PH: "Well, here we go. This is where I say to Phil 1-2-3-4."
(afterwards)
BS: "Thank you! Thank you. That was, erm, a very beautiful song by Joy
Division, and now we're going to play a very beautiful song by New Order,
if I can find my melodica."
punter #1: "We love you, Bernard"
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Thank you!" Hooky ends it with a bass solo. "Okay".
BS: "All right. All right. Thinking all it could be and should be. Is
it over boys? Thank you very much. You've been a...you've been an absolutely
fantastic audience in Chicago. You know you get this bullshit all the time,
we been to every town, but we want you to know that (it's) no bullshit, and
that we really really mean it, and that we're gonna finish tonight with
_Blue___Monday_.
This version also features Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head"
samples.
punter: "Wow!" Tape fades out.
A total of two audience masters, one from a 'boldcaptain'
(taped with CSB's > Sony M1 DAT) and the other from DM1993
(Sony ECM-717 > TC-D8). Both versions were seeded to DIME.
The complete video, as aired on Australian TV, has also surfaced.
At one point this was considered for release, but never was
officially put out.
intro music is a Kraftwerk tune into an updating-sounding
Ennio Moricone track.
The bc version misses out on this.
announcer: "C'mon world, gotta welcome them now!"
BS: "C'mon, we want a better welcome than that! It's been about 20 years
since we've played here, but we are on time. Absolutely on time, and feeling
fine."
Mic being scraped around as it was being adjusted (boldcaptain version)
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Hello, New York. We are New Order...as if you didn't know. And we're
gonna start tonight with a song, it a good ol' redneck song, it's called
Love Vigilantes."
Bernard calls out "C'mon" during the middle of this to get the fans
worked up...
BS: "Wooh! Thank you! That song is about Vietnam. I got shot in
the foot, and that's why I can't dance around too much [Hooky twang
bass] with my sore foot."
_Crystal_
BS: "However, the next song we're gonna play is off our last album and
it's called, eh, Crystal."
Silence in bc version between 1:22-1:32.
BS: "'k you! Wooh! Thank you. Okay, is everyone having a good time?
(cheers)
_Regret_
BS: "Whew, don't get too excited. We're gonna play Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Whoo! Black power."
BS: "Thanks. At this stage I'd like to introduce Phil Cunningham, our
new guitarist. And keyboard programming, as you can see by the...rack
of technology right behind him. His brain is bigger than it looks.
And you work all that stuff, Phil?"
_Hey___Now___What___Youre___Doing_
BS: "We're gonna do ehh...we're starting to eh...a grand marathon of tracks
off our new album, right. It's obvious that we want you buy the album, that's
why we're here. Track's called 'Hey Now What You're Doing'.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you." A bit of a pause between songs, where you can hear cheering
and call-outs.
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, now my guitar's in tune, it must have been me. Hey, the next one
is...". The last sentence is off-mic, can't be heard at all on the DM93
but can be faintly heard on bc's.
PH: "All right, kids."
Countup ("1-2-3-4" between verse and chorus), only heard on the bc
version.
BS: "Thank you! Just gotta tune up, won't be a sec."
Somebody calls for '1963' a couple of times. (DM93)
Hooky cackles.
PH: "It's the ugliest fucking front row I've ever seen in my life.
I feel _perfectly_ at home."
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is a song by Joy Division, it's called Transmission.
Really fast version of it."
BS: "Thank you. Running out of breath, has anyone got any... uhhh...
When you get to your mid-20s, you just can't do anything. So, erm,
that was hard, that was where we started out, as a rock band all
those years ago, in like 1978, and eh, we're gonna take it to the
mid-80s with a song called _True___Faith_."
BS: "We need a bit of your technology, Phil. We need you to twirl
those knobs..."
BS: "Thank you. Hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. We always
have a bit...a little bit trouble getting the end of that song right,
but Steve gave us a very big hint at the end on his drums there
[cymbal crash] and we got it right."
_Run___Wild_
BS: "Okay, all that fun now, we're gonna chill things out a little bit
with, eh, a pretty soulful song off our last album. It's the last track
off the last album, it's called Run Wild."
Intro is still a bit shaky.
After the first verse:
BS: "Turn the strings up, Di(?)!" (Dian Barton)
BS: "Thank you. Thanks for being so sympathetic with a song that isn't
designed for banging heads together. But nevertheless, it's an important
song."
_Jetstream_
Now, eh, the next, eh, start, the next part of the set, I'd like to
introduce Ana Matronic from the Scissor Sisters, I hope she's coming
from this side of the stage. Ana...she's a hometown girl, all the
way from New York City."
AM: "Long communte, very long communte."
BS: "She's got an english heart though."
AM; "Ha ha ha."
BS: "And, eh, this is a song that's we think's gonna be our next
single, it's called Jetstream."
(at end)
BS: "'k you! Thank you, Ana, it's been only a pleasure...having you.
AM: "Thank you!"
BS: "No, thank you!"
AM: "Let's hear it for New Order! Fuck..."
BS: "She's fucking great, man, she's great. Whooh. All right, do
you want us to play some more, or do you want us to fuck off. Oh, be
indifferent, eh, be indifferent. All right, if you want us to fuck
off, we'll play some more, if you want us to play some more, we'll
fuck off. We'll show you what indifference is, we're from Manchester,
home of cunts. I'm joking of course, it's my dry English sense of humor.
And, eh, I just need to change guitar. 330 please. C'mon man you got
to be having a good time tonight! We are, and I'm not allowed to, the
doctor says I'm not allowed to."
(the last bit was obviously left off of the broadcast)
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, what we're gonna play next is another track off our new
album, and it's the title track, and it's called 'Waiting For The
Sirens Call'".
(at end)
BS: "'k you. Cheers. Thanks a lot! I want to be(?)...back after
the show please. All you're doing is the video cameras.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, the next song is a real personal challenge for me because
I was surfing when we played in LA, and, erm, my buddy fell of his
surfboard, and got attacked by a shark. I've known him for a very long
time, and I rescued him, but the shark bit me in the foot, so I'm can't
dance very well [cymbal crash]. My buddy escaped completely uninjured,
but that's the sort of guy that I am. Don't want a medal, just a bit of
sympathy. [At this point everyone "Awwws"] Anyway, this is Bizarre Love
Triangle."
Of course, the above is complete rubbish, which I think everybody knew.
BS: "Thank you. [syndrum] Is there a doctor in the house?"
[Phil plays a keyboard line]
PH: "Ok, du du du [hums some melody, clears his throat, and then cough]
You're ready, Bernard?
BS: "Don't [something] again, the small string, Jerry."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "And now it's a good old-fashioned sing-along. We have a lot of
these up north."
PH: "1-2-3-4!"
During the "Love Will Tear Us Apart" chorus, Bernard yells "Faster!"
twice. Later, he shouts, "2-3-4!".
And there's a point where he sounds like MES singing one of the verses,
very, very odd.
BS: "Thank you very much, that was eh, Love Will Tear Apart Us, crossed
with Anarchy In The UK. All right, you said 3 more songs after."
The last sentence sounds garbled...not 100% of the wording or if Barney
meant for that to be heard.
_Temptation_
BS: "Guess that was a solo song called Love Will Tear Us Apart. And this
is Temptation."
Nothing happens.
BS: "And this is Temptation." The track starts.
BS: "Thank you very much. According to my list, that's it.
Who wants this guitar? Spoilsport. [referring to the roadie who
takes his guitar off him] It's been great playing New York again,
hopefully we'll return...me a sign, and if you clap loud enough,
we might come back in five minutes."
(encore)
BS: "I've got...whoa...yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. That means I'm optimistic
like Michael Jackson, because he always does that and he's gonna fucking
losing it. (sotto voce) Right, Atmosphere. Thank you very much."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Eh, Since it's been, eh, twenty-five years since, ehm, our original
lead singer, Ian Curtis, died, we're gonna fu...we're gonna do two
Joy Division songs to start our encore. This is 'She's Lost Control',
one-two-three-four, two-three-two-four two-three...that's about right.
How's Hooky on the bass?"
Hooky helps out during the chorus.
BS: "Thank you very much. It's been quite some time since we played
that song [yeah, about 6 days before]. Thank you. I told you about
my sore foot...aww [something] man, it's killing me. Ian...Ian might
have died, but bloody hell, he didn't have to live with this."
PH: "You ready for all your box of Trix? Ha ha."
BS: "I don't get legendary status, do I, because I got a sore fucking
foot."
Hooky laughs.
BS: "And getting laughed at."
_Atmosphere_
PH: "One, two, three, four."
BS: "Thank you. For some strange reason, my mic's distorting...
out of phase, out there...but if it's OK, lets leave it."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Hey, what the hell...this is Blue Monday, and we use a vocoder,
so just pretend I'm a vocoder."
Lots of Kylie mixed in. Can't get it out of my head.
BS: "Thank you, New York. Good night, you've been a great audience!"
Hooky outros with the BM bassline along with the synth effects.
Good stuff.
Captured for immortality by none other than ATR.
BS: "Hello, Spain. Viva Espana. Que pasa. I'm sorry it's
so long since we last played here. But Peter our bass player
got a bad case of diarrhea and didn't wanna come back."
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna start the set tonight with a song called
Love Vigilantes."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
BS: "Okay, that was an old one. Don't know how old, but it was gold."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, erm...we're st...gonna play the first track of an album
we've been told today that none of you like herein Spain...so fuck you!
This is Crystal."
(at end)
BS: "Ya, thank you!"
Punter calls for SC.
Shouts
PH: "A few bum notes, so it must be you bastards in Blackburn putting me off.
Why can't you keep in the mountain(?) end where you belong?"
[can't quite make out the latter part]
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Gee, it's hot in Spain. It's even hotter than Manchester.
Is there anyone there that knows how to tune a guitar up?"
_Hey___Now___What___You___Doing_
BS: "You don't care if my guitar's in tune, do you? If you don't,
I don't. Anyway, here's..."
BS: "Okay, this is Hey Now, What You're Doing off our new album."
(at conclusion)
BS: "Thank you! Thank you."
BS: "Thank you. I know this is a cliche, but is everybody having a good
time? [cheers] Well, good."
punter: "Some Joy Division!"
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, we're going to play another track off our most recent album,
I believe it's called 'Waiting For The Sirens' Call', alright, you
kids are...[something] it's called Krafty."
BS: "Thank you, thank you."
Shouts near the taper of 'Nuorder'...the usual.
PH: "Alright. Gary, you out there? We're running out of clothes
up here mate, you better send some quick. All right, this one's
for you, who's ever getting married, good luck to you."
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is Transmission by Joy Division which is really us."
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot."
_Run___Wild_
BS: "Calm down, calm down. If you talk all at once, I can't understand
what you're saying. Okay, what we're going to do right now, right here
right now is chill things out a little bit with a song off the album
you all hate, so I've been told by journalists in Spain, obviously
wasting my breath. This is Run Wild, is it? Yes it is, yes it is."
After less than a minute, the rendition breaks down.
BS: "I'm sorry, my assistant guitarist fucked up. If you do that again,
you're sacked!"
[punter asks Alex for water]
PH: "Tell him to fuck off, Phil. I got yer back mate. Fuck off!"
BS: "Can't get any, can't get any [quality] help these days. It's in....
it's in B flat."
They restart the song, and this time make it all the way through.
BS: "'Q. Well, if you don't like that, there's something wrong with
you. Or alternatively, there's something wrong with me. Which, of
course there is, if you're going to get philosophical about it, there's
something wrong with all of us, isn't there? For example, my friend
here Phil here has a very small penis, but he doesn't like people to
know about it. And his mate over there, Chris, can't get an erection,
and he really doesn't want...people to know about it, isn't that right,
Chris? Surrections." [cymbal crash, courtesy of Steve]
_Jetstream_
BS: "All right, we'll get on with it, enough of my chit-chat! This is
Jetstream off the new album."
PH: "Yeah."
BS: "Thank you, Jerry could you put a little bit extra on his guitar, please.
Thank you, we're gonna play another track off our new album, obviously
we want you to go out and buy it. You obviously all bought it, so don't
buy it again."
[punter: Alright, is that taping?]
BS: "If you do, if you go into a small disc...and attempt to mention
my name at the record shop..."
BS: "Would you just go over..." [probably talking
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "This is again off our new album, another one, another one. This is
'Waiting For The Sirens' Call', the title track."
BS: "Thank you."
A bit of a long pause between tracks.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "That's another good song, if I do say so myself. Okay, we've bored
the ass of you with new songs and old songs. But now we're going to start
playing everybody's favorites because we are whores. And let's face it,
it's been a long time since we've played in Barcelona. [person near
the taper shouts something out]. So as an audience, I think you deserve
it. And we're gonna start with Bizarre Love Triangle."
Nice ending, until somebody drops their bass.
BS: "Thank you, excuse the set where we all get our breath...we're getting
on a bit, you know."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
The backing vocals (Dawn Zee?) are really loud in the mix.
PH: (during bridge) "Here we go! Here we go! Oh, oh, oh, owww..."
BS: "Muchas gracias."
some keyboards.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Does you good sometimes to fucking jet, you know what I mean?
You don't want to make a cunt of yourself there. Sorry darling.
Swore there. Sorry, baby. My daughter's there. She doesn't know
to swear. This is for all of you."
Usual, "C'mon Steve" from Hooky.
BS: "I'm not sure it was there, Hooky."
PH: "Anyway, I want to dedicate this one to Iggy Pop, because I fucking
love him."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, I told you we were going to give you some classics. You've
heard every classic in the book tonight. Well, here's another one. It's
called Temptation."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, you've been a fantastic audience. It's really great to
play in Spain again, thank you good night!"
A couple of syndrum hits.
_Blue___Monday_
A quite rare version without an introduction from Bernard!
Has the Kylie samples, of course.
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much, Barcelona. Y viva Espana."
Taped by a "Stutter" using SBC M570 mics into a Nomad Jukebox 3, just
in front of the soundboard and posted to DIME>
Taper Comments:
Transcription
Some audience chatter (in Portugese) at start. Morris drops in a drum
fill.
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Hello, Portugal. [house keyboard plonking] Long day for
Christopher Columbus. We're New Order. On my left, I've got
Peter Hook, otherwise known as Hooky. "
PH: "One two. Hello, everybody."
BS: "On my right, I've got filthy Phil, Phil Cunningham, Phil Cunningham."
[guitar riff]
BS: "Right behind me, I've got Stephen Paul David Morris. [cymbal crash].
Or as we call him, Boris Morris. [another cymbal crash]"
BS: "Okay, This is Love Vigilantes. A bit brighter on the voice, Jerry."
You can hear the sound of Velcro getting pulled at the end. This is
endemic to HD-based recorders, since they are often held in protective
cases with Velcro lateches.
BS: "Thank you. Jerry, can you hockey[?] once in a while, can you move
this microphone?"
_Crystal_
BS: "Is everyone having a good festival? Well, all right, we'll soon put
a stop to all than then. We're gonna play a song off our, er, last album,
called Get Ready...and...just a minute, just a minute. This is called
Crystal."
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Some strumming here.
BS: "Anyone got any good micstands, you'd think at a festival like this,
they don't get wobble like this. Just give us a second while we tune up,
please. Or don't you care? Go home without detention. Call his name."
I don't get what Bernard is on about with the "detention" comment,
unless he just excused the audience.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, I think we can safely say we're in tune now, so this is
Regret."
Near the end, somebody with what sounds like an Irish brogue says
"There ya go...". There's some chattering afterwards, would be good
to get a translation.
BS: "Jerry, you're keeping in side fills, you're blasting 'im man.
_Hey___Now___What___You___Doing_
BS: "Okay, that was an old but a goldie, we're gonna play a newie that's
very bluey...it's called, eh, "Road To Ruin".
Interesting in that Bernard uses the working title.
A silence between songs, at least before
_Krafty_
BS: "Alright, this is Krafty."
I almost jumped out of my seat when I first heard the following.
Bernard sings, "We've got violence, wars, and killing two", starts in on
the next line, and then all OF A SUDDEN *screams* "SHRUNK DOWN IN A TWO FOOT
TUBE. He then screws up, skips a verse on the autocue and sings "I've heard
the world is a beautiful place, and then shouts out "WITH VIOLENCE WARS
AND THE HUMAN RACE."
OH THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO BE, AND THIS IS WHAT WHAT I WANT TO DO.
The chorus is also screamed as well...for this verse and the next.
All this confirms that there's prerecorded harmony/backing vocals.
The taper records that Bernard's antics infuriated Hooky, and there was a
small fight on stage.
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is Transmission."
A few stereo shifts as the taper moves around.
A couple of quick edits at this point.
_Run___Wild_
BS: "Okay, this is Run Wild."
False start after the intro bit.
BS: "All right, we'll try...Phil, we'll try that again." [Bernard
mutters something about how it might have been his fault].
Somebody mistakenly identifies this as 'Slow Jam'.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Okay, she's lost control." While he says this, Phil plays a
keyboard riff that wouldn't be out of place in a Madonna song.
There's the sound of somebody unwrapping something during the
bass intro.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Okay, take you out of Joy Division now. No. Oh, we have a
winner here, don't we? Parlez vous Ingles? Nah? Parlez vous Mancunian?
Manchester United? [audience yells affirmatively] Oh yeah, you understand
that, don't you? Because we whipped your fucking ass."
Play nice, Barney.
_Waititng___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay this is, er, the title track of our next, our new...new album,
which is called Waiting For The Sirens Call, also the album is called
Waiting For The Sirens Call, please go out and buy it, that is why we're
here tonight. This is called 'promotion'."
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Just turn the bass and snare down a bit, Jerry, we need that down."
[not sure on wording on last part, it's mumbled]
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, from guitar-orientated rock to twat-orientated dance music. This
is Bizarre Love Triangle. Turn the fucking lights off."
Interesting ending with the keyboard bits.
BS: "Jerry, I'm on the monitors now. Jerry, I'm on the wedges, the pack
has fallen apart. Whoa, life in the real world suddenly. Hope you're
enjoying it."
Phil plays tentative house piano.
BS: "Right. Hello, everyone. I've lost my earphones, and suddenly I'm
in a festival with 30,000 Portugese people. All of 'em Manchester United
fans. Oh sorry, I'm wrong, there's one person that's booing here in the
front. He's obviously a Liverpool fan."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
What sound like people around the taper have a conversation throughout the
introduction.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
More synth chords...
PH: "This one's for you, uh, with the t-shirt, because you've been
waving at me. Do you know what it is? Get ready, Bernard."
Guitar stuffming.
PH: "You OK? For you, yeah you!"
Bernard loudly yells "C'mon" during the chorus.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! That should be the end of our set, obviously.
But we're in Portugal, we're gonna chip in one more for free."
_Temptation_
BS: "Oi! Okay, this is Temptation."
More yelling from Bernard (the "last time" line).
BS: "Thank you! We've warmed you up for the end, and we've warmed up
ourselves in the process. Thank you, goodnight!"
There's about two minutes on this recording between the main set and
the inevitable encore.
PH?: "Hey hey"
_Atmosphere_
Phil plays the Atmosphere chimes as a bit of a teaser.
BS: "You won us over. We never normally play encores, but we'll make
an exception tonight (he stumbles over the word 'tonight'). Erm, since
it's been 25 years, erm, since the death of Ian Curtis, we're playing
a few Joy Division songs tonight. So this is the last of those and
it's called Atmosphere."
The usual sorts of whistles (both from the audience and Bernard)...
BS: "Thank you. God bless you, Ian. You should be fucking here now,
man."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, we know you're all disco bunnies at heart. And there's one
song that we've not played yet. It's our *favorite* song to play, and I
never get tired of playing it. [machine beats start up] It's called
FUCKING Blue Monday."
Another synthy ending, like BLT.
BS: "Cheers! Thank you! The drinks are on me. You've been a great
audience. See you again soon, hopefully. Bye bye!"
Ends with the house PA going on playing an old show tune, of all
things.
From really clear audience DAT recording, so clear it captures
the hum coming from NO's amps, which apparently was a problem
with the sound of the venue
Annoying German announcer at start doing a call-and-response
tease with the band name. The video footage shows that he's
a blonde guy, figures.
Full recording of new intro tape (Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars
More"), often mistaken (by yours truly as well!) as being "The Good,
The Bad, & The Ugly"). This would appear hereafter throughout the
remaining 2005-6 dates.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Hello. Mein Damen und Herren. Wir sind New Order. And eh...
Das is Your Silent Face."
Bernard is inexplicibly wearing a shirt reading "Muhammad Ali" on
the back. A few errors with the melodica playing.
_Crystal_
BS: "Well, thank you. I fear we're just about to pull that one off,
just about. [guitar] Okay, is everyone having a good festival
so far? Ya von, mein herr. Okay, we're gonna, eh play a song off our
last album, not our more recent one, the last album was called Get
Ready, and this is Crystal."
PH: "Andy, would you turn this fucking light off here or what?
Thank you."
Poor Andy Liddle.
Even more inexplicibly, Hooky is wearing a shirt reading "RUN-DMC".
Between verses, we get one of the piercing whistles Bernard is
(in)famous for. Internal edit in webcast.
BS: "Thank you! Cheers, thanks a lot. Jerry, the guitar's come down
a litle bit too much. Topline synths are a bit too loud, the piano...
[some noodling] Damien, I need the 330, please."
He goes sidestage to swap guitars.
_Regret_
Bernard comes back to the mic with his Gibson 330.
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
(after)
BS: "Yoooo! Damien, I'm going to stay with this guitar. Jerry, can you
turn down the dB's a little bit off the track."
BS: "Is everybody staying here tomorrow? You're not going to be here
tomorrow? Well, it's going to rain. Sorry."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "I'm ready, is everyone else ready? And We're ready. This is Waiting
For The Siren's Call."
BS: "Cheers. Glad you liked that, we put quite a bit of work into it."
_Jetstream_
BS: "Okay, eh, we're gonna play Jetstream next."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Love___Vigilantes_
Melodica teaser.
BS: "This is Love Vigilantes"
(in strained rockist voice...)
BS: "Aww right, this is Love Vigilantes!"
(at end)
BS: "A classic(?) if I ever heard one. That was about the Vietnam War.
And my part in it."
_Transmission_
BS: "Thank you. That was Transmission by Joy Division. Whoo!
Which of course, was us."
BS: "Just chill out for a minute while we have a drink, right?
It's cold, isn't it? Even for us from England, this is cold. My
heart bleeds for you all in your tents tonight, must be fucking
freezing in those tents. But bet there's a few nice birds out there,
isn't there."
PH: "Doing loads of shagging then."
BS: "That's why I'm in Europe."
_Run___Wild_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a very sensitive song off of, erm, Get Ready.
It's called Run Wild."
Which they play.
BS: "And if that doesn't touch your soul, you ain't got one."
Some audience member yells out "Geeve it to meee!". (DAT version)
_Hey___Now___What___You___Doing_
BS: "Okay, this is "Road To Ruin".
Another one yells out "New Order rocks."
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, well, another...another new song! We're playing all the
new songs for you, right, tonight. We're playing the whole new album.
Here's Krafty."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, we've bored the ass off of you with the new ones, now we're
gonna play some hoary chestnuts that we know you fucking love because
you like them. Thank you very much Damien for your lev... [can't make
out last word]."
BS: "Eh, right, this is...is Bizarre Love Triangle."
A new bit where Bernard repeats "Every time" a few times.
BS: "Wow, thank you. Woo! Thought you'd like that one. So fucking
predictable. Even more predictable than we are."
_True___Faith_
BS: "If you liked that one, you'll like this one. It's called
True Fucking Faith."
Another internal edit in webcam version.
BS: "Thank you."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Puntess cries out for "Blue Monday".
PH: "I want to dedicate this one to Sku Req(?), cuz I knew him when he
was nothing, and he's still fucking nothing."
Somebody says "Arsehor" in reaction.
BS: "This is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Big ending on this one, with quite a bit of noodling.
More shouting for Blue Monday. They really love their Blauer Montag in
Deutschland.
BS: "Thank you. I can't understand what you're saying if you all talk
at the same time.
_Temptation_
BS: "This is Temptation."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, good night. Cheers, thanks a lot."
Encore break of about a minute and a half follows.
The following quip can be heard:
"We don't want a blue Saturday, we want a Blue Monday."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "It's Blue Monday"
PH: "This one's for you Alex. Your faith inspires me every day."
Hooky could also be saying "face" or "fame", hard to tell.
I bet it's "face".
Not the Kylie version, but there's a nice little keyboard riff before
the Kraftwerk choral sample.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot, bye bye."
_Soundcheck_
The Southside broadcast has a bit of the soundcheck where you can hear
New Order soundchecking "Warsaw". This is followed by somebody going
"hey, hey two two...wasn't like that at fuckin' Glastonbury"...and
"the whole thing is..." "fucking, the whole stage is fuckin' [?]...
Phil's is particularly nasty..." "everything, the buzz is coming
off of everything, Wes..." and similar desultory comments regarding
the sound.
Writeup courtesy of the only known native HD capture of a New Order perofrmance.
(1080i H.264). Contains only five songs (Crystal, Krafty, True Faith, LWTUA, and
Blue Monday).
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, we're going to start the set tonight with a track off er...
Get Ready, called Crystal."
(at end)
BS: "Yeah!"
_Krafty_
BS: "This is Krafty...Andy..." (faded out in broadcast)
[perhaps referring to Liddle...but it's outdoors?]
_True___Faith_
BS: "True Faith...and we want you all to sing on the chorus. I know it's
real corny, but fuck it, let's...let's be corny for once."
BS: "'k you!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Bernard completely messes up the first line, singing "Routine bites hard,
resentment runs low" instead of "ambitions are low"...which of course causes
him to mess up the second line as he's thrown himself off track.
He "2-3-4's" after the first chorus.
Hooky stands on the drum pedestal during the bridge.
The 'Cmon' count = 4.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, this is Blauer Montag."
Features deliciously horrid dancing at the start, as well as Kylie bits during
the intro.
Bernard giggles through singing the "ship in the harbor" line, maybe in reaction
to Phil doing a little jig, but more likely, somebody throwing a beach ball up
on stage. While the ending credits roll, Hooky can be seeing heading said ball
and then kicking it back to the audience.
Old Blue reports:
"I think [Alan Wise] has been taking note of your DAD seeds, the intro
went something along the lines of "Some people like skiffle, some like
blues, some like surf rock but here's a band that covers it all, New
Order"
And here's what he said.
AW: "Hey, it's quite jolly out there, innit? Now, some people like
skiffle music, some like folk, some like jazz, and some like us like
R&B. The trick is to get somebody that plays everything, isn't it.
We think we've found that for you because we got a band here that likes
to please and play everything for you. Welcome, if you will, the
Orders!"
BS: "Oh...if you(?) can turn up the [can't make out]"
A pity this didn't make the XFM recording.
Gig writeup taken from various sources, mostly from the XFM recording.
BS: "Hope we can do, eh, justice to your enthusiasm. I don't believe
in sponsorship, but I'd like to thank the Clear Channel and O2 for making
this all possible. (some folks boo at the mention of the sponsors)
Whoa! And Adidas of course."
Morris follows with a "punchline" cymbal crash at the mention of
Adidas. Bernard was decked out in Adidas through much of the '05
dates, you see.
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay we're gonna start the proceedings tonight with a little song
called Crystal."
Dawn Zee does live backing vocals here.
BS: "Whoa, thank you, thank you, cheers. Whoo. And sorry about the
rain, we must have brought it down from Manchester with us."
Chants of "New Order, New Order" throughout.
PH: "Just want to say happy birthday to Lauren, darling, happy 14th
birthday. Many of them, love."
_Regret_ follows. Unusually for this tour, it's not introduced!
BS: "Thank you. [replying to the incessant chanting] C'mon, you got
to think of a better tune than that. Even we can."
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Okay, this is, eh, Krafty. No it's not, no it's not, no it's not,
hang on! I got it wrong, hang on. This is Love Vigilantes."
Bernard flubs a note on the melodica intro.
(at end)
BS: "Yeah! Whoop. Roger, no one's panicking...what's...what's happening
mate? All right, don't worry, don't worry, let's stay cool, let's stay
cool."
It appears that the autocue has stopped working, guaranteeing that we
don't have the same old renditions!
Bernard then addresses the chanting head-on...well, for him at least.
BS: "If you all speak at the same time, we can't understand what you're
saying. So this guy in the orange shirt, what are you saying, man?
Meanwhile, I know we...we...we are New Order. We know, I know, we're
stupid Mancunians, but fuck me, I know the name of our group!"
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, this is Krafty."
No guitar for Bernard for this one during the first part of song, but
a roadie hands him his 335 for the part near the end.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Yeah! Okay, uh, Damien, have you got an SG there? Have you got
an SG? No? Okay, guys, do you mind if we do...listen, Hooky...let's
do True Faith cuz my SG's not ready, I can't play it...True Faith, True
Faith."
Fans cheer when Bernard mentions the song title.
Dawn Zee sings backing vocals here.
BBC4 has no qualms about airing the "taking drugs with me" line.
BS: "Thank you. Cheers!"
Yet more chanting.
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, how we doin' Rog, any...any good news for me? Okay, we're
gonna play Transmission now, a Joy Division song."
Never heard wah-wah guitar used in this song before, and if I never
hear it again, it'd be too soon.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
_Run___Wild_
Bernard is holding a plastic cup with wine in it.
BS: "Okay, I know it's a cliche, but is everyone having a good time?
That's our aim in life, it has been for the past twenty-odd years,
or what's been life, is to have a good time and fuck everything
else, and we've achieved it, so hopefully we can share a little
bit of that with you by playing a really down and miserable song."
Now we see the effects of the missing autocue.
lyrics: "Far and wide, sweet and sinful, Jehovah knows I've been
sinful. But all the time, I think of you, I can not lie ... tell
me what to do. High and low, like a cruel game. Satan knows that
we all are the same...but if Jesus Christ to take your hand, I won't
let go, I won't let go...
Far and wide, sweet and sinful, all the things that I'd been thinking,
Lying alone, for Jesus sake, I can't believe, I took your fate.
You're the kind of person that I always wanted to be with. When
you're really cool, and you always say the right things to me.
Now I'll tell you something, well my heart beats for you deep inside.
You'll never be a burden, and my love for you will never die.
If Jesus comes to take your hand, I won't let go, I won't go (x2)
Whoo!
Yeaaah! Whoo!
Good times around the corner, good times around the corner
Good times around the corner, I swear it's getting warmer
Good times around the corner, good times around the corner
Good times around the corner, I'm gonna live to get high.
I'm gonna live till I die."
BS: "'k you! Notice that it's "Q" and not "Thank You". It's
Q, cuz I've got hay fever. Anyone got hay fever in the audience?"
Come backstage after and I'll give you a snort of something that'll
sort you out. Aller-eaze, it's called."
_Jetstream_
Well, my personal preference is Claritin...eh, Neil Claritin, very
good. Okay, this is Jetstream."
Think it's Dawn Zee still doing backing vocals, no Ana here.
BS: "Thank you!"
Shouts for "New Order" get really loud at this point.
Morris taps the syndrums a bit.
BS: "Okay, we just gotta tune up for a second. Just to prove
it's not all on tape, you know."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is Waiting For The Sirens' Call. Oh, and it's
raining again. And we like it God, we're from Manchester, please
rain a little bit more, we love it."
An XFM promo appears at this point, after the track.
PH: "Hooky's sleepy out there, innit? [coughs and sighs] Always
lost for words on occasions like this. There's only two that spring
to mind."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you. [clears throat] Has anybody got a spare set of lungs
out there...that you don't want."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, this is a word-free Love Will Tear Us Apart, never tried it
before." (probably a reference to the missing autocue)
PH: "This is best set of fucking da...mosh pit dancing I've ever seen in
my fucking life. You all must be over 40, you bunch of fucking daft bastards.
You're making me feel guilty, fucking hell!"
And of course, this sounds absolutely massive.
Hooky yells out "Ready, Steve!" between verses.
Another XFM station promo.
_Temptation_
BS: "That was first ever indie air...indie record. And if there's any
wank-faced journalists in the audience, fuck you. Unless you like us.
And the next song we're gonna play is the second ever indie record,
which is called Temptation."
The audience "oh ohh's along to the melody, very impressive to hear
this.
Another XFM promo, this time during the song, right after the "eyes"
bit.
BS: "Thank you, good night, you've been a fantastic audience. A
few technical problems here on stage so I hope you bear with us.
Thank you very much, good night!"
Yet another XFM bit.
PH: "Good night everybody, good bye."
Encore break of a couple of minutes or so.
PH: "Gives you wings!" (He must be holding a can of Red Bull)
BS: "Hello again. We've have got a few technical problems, so you'll have
to bear with us. Quite severe ones. So, please feel sorry for us."
_Atmosphere_
PH: "Ready, Phil. I'd like to dedicate this to everybody who can't be
with us tonight."
Bernard mumbles the line after "Life rebuilding", meaning the autocue's
still out. Actually, he's not done too badly without it.
The singer lets out a blood-curdling scream near the end.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Hooky, are you anywhere to be found? Hooky, where are you? Oh,
Phil wants to do She's Lost Control. Yup, man, yup...allright, this is...
I don't want to give the game away, but this is She's Lost Control."
Another XFM promo during the intro of the song.
Lots of Phil keyboards in this one.
_Blue___Monday_
And one more XFM promo bit.
BS: "Guess which song this is. Blue fucking Monday, yo! But we love it."
Bernard starts to change things a bit with the phrasing.
BS: "Thank you. Hope you've enjoyed it as much as we have. Let's hear if
Hyde Park can compete(?) from London. Thank you very much, good night.
announcer: "New Order, live on XFM. At the O2 wireless festival, Hyde
Park. Day one over. What a day we had. Brilliant, some great bands.
Moby, the Bravery, Graham Coxon, Psychedelic Furs, Dresden Dolls. On the
XFM stage we had Boy Kill Boy performance, Rilo Kiley, Vicious Spoons,
the Dears, Hard-Fi. You'll be able to hear all that over the next
coming days. That, I promise you."
There's more in the way of announcer chatter, with the most notable
thing mentioned was that he didn't think there was quite enough
swearing!
Writeup from BBC3 broadcast.
BS: "I was Turtle's dad. One two one two one two one two.
Jerry, my pack's not working. My pack ain't working."
Hooky plays his bass during the last-minute soundchecking.
PH: "I know there's quite a few of you, isn't there? [chuckles].
Well done, a great day, a great day."
_Crystal_
BS: "One two one two, that worked, yeah. Right, now we got rid of our technical
gremlins, we're gonna start the set tonight with Crystal."
Dawn Zee is along for backing vocals.
_Regret_
The BBC3 broadcast is missing most of this song.
BS: "Yo, thank you very much."
PH: "That was shaky that, a bit shaky that."
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Love Vigilantes."
Bernard's playing a modern black-and-white melodica, rather than
the classic Hohner green-and-white 25 keyer.
BS: "Thank you. Cheers, thanks a lot. Woo."
Chants of "New Order" at this point.
_Krafty_
BS: "All right, straight into Krafty."
BS: "'k you. Cheers, thanks a lot."
More chanting of the group's name.
BS: "Would you stop and give us a few seconds while we tune up, cuz
we're dead professional these days."
PH: "Would be a lot better with a bit of mud on, don't we?"
_Transmission_
BS: "There we go, sound a lot better now. Erm, we're gonna hop back 25
years now to a track that we wrote in our previous group Joy Division and
erm, we like to do this in memory of our dear friend Ian Curtis who died
25 years ago. Thinking(?) of John Peel and Rob Gretton."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you. Whoo! I'm all out of breath, has anyone got any?
You know what it's like when you get to our age, Hooky."
PH: "You should have seen him rooting about at 3:00 this morning."
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith. Fellas, you want to groove(?) that way.
If you don't, you can fuck off."
_True___Faith_
Both Hooky and Dawn Zee perform backing vocals, at one point they share a
mic and he puts his arm around her while they sing together.
BS: "'k you! I really enjoying it, we're having a fucking great time up
here. I shouldn't swear because this is on television.
_Run___Wild_
(only have this on the .mkv version)
BS: "Hey, we're gonna chill things out a little bit now with a track
off of our album called Get Ready...and...this is called Run Wild."
_Jetstream_ (with Ana Matronic)
BS: "Er, for this one, I'd like to introduce our special guest, from the
Scissor Sisters, Ana Matronic. She's dressed ... a bit here. She's making
me look ... right?"
Ana comes out in a full-length satin pink robe.
AM: "It's the only place in the entire festival that I can wear heels.
How's everybody doing? I hope you're as pleased to be here as I am!"
BS: "Okay, this is Jetstream."
They hug at the end of the song.
AM: "Let's hear it for New Order!"
BS: "Thank you, Ana. She's a star."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Well, guess what we're gonna play now. This is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
`
Never noticed this before, but Hooky has a capo on the second fret of
his Eccleshall, at least for this song.
_Temptation_
(only have this on the .mkv version)
BS: "All right, this is Temptation."
Hooky starts wandering around the pit era, at one point even looking
through one of the video cameras positioned there.
_World___In___Motion_
BS: "I'm not quite sure what's going on. But at this point in the
proceedings I'm supposed to, erm, invite our friend Keith Allen on
stage to perform World In Motion with us."
Keith Allen comes in riding on a horse, or rather, on two people stuffed
into a horse costume.
BS: (giggling) "You didn't mention the horse."
KA: "Well, thank you very much."
BS: "Thank you.
KA: "Ladies and gentlemen, New Order, coolest band in the world."
BS: "Well, we were the coolest band in the world till you did that."
KA: "Nah, shut up. The only band in the world that could get Ian Brown
and Bobby Gillepsie in there." ['there' being the "horse"]
KA: (still having mic problems) One-two-three, one-two-three, one two."
BS: "Okay. Is there any football fans in the audience? No? Okay, this
is World In Motion..." [song starts, obscuring the last part of Bernard's
spoken intro]
Near the end, Hooky yells out, "All together now!"
KA: "Thank you."
BS: "Thank you, Keith."
They hug.
PH: "I don't whether our career's beginning or whether it's all over."
BS: "Thank you Bobby, Ian Brown [Phil kicks the "horse"]. And thank you,
er, cuz that's it. That's all we've got time for. Cheers, thanks a lot,
you've been a great audience."
A few tracks were broadcast on Belgian radio.
These include Crystal, Love Vigilantes, Krafty, Transmission,
Love Will Tear Us Apart, and Blue Monday. All the good stuff
said between tracks has been excised, of course.
There's also a shaky (but watchable) video of the last 37m of the
gig, with audio recorded in mono, but pretty clear nonetheless.
_Crystal_
The broadcast version is missing the first part of the song.
BS: "Woo! Thank you. Thanks a lot."
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Woo! 'ank You."
_Krafty_
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
_Transmission_
PH: "This one's for you, boys."
BS: "This is Transmisison."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
Only the last 2:30 appears on the video version. Due to traffic a lot
of concert-goers arrived to this one late.
BS: "Thanks a lot. Thank you."
PH: "I can see you there. [cackles] It's you, yes!"
BS: "Let's hear it for the wrong Vikings in the front. All right lads.
[in hoarse shouty voice] Manchester United...will never be divided."
Don't know about you lot but I'm fucking knackered whenever I attend
these festivals, this is about the bloody tenth one I've done and I tell
you, I always give 100% of what I've got but that's not much."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "This is Bizarre Love Triangle, it's about...a consensual relationship
between Phil, Steve, and Hooky and it really freaked me out so I wrote
a song about it. You got to admit, it's a pretty gruesome prospect,
haven't you? That bloody beard, oh dear!"
The videotaper spends the first part of the song walking closer to the
proceedings.
BS: "Merci Beaucoup. Bit hot up here."
I've been though so many festivals, I've run out of funny things to
say, I've resorted to 'It's a bit hot up here'. Not exactly the
[connection you want?] is it? You probably don't understand a word
I'm saying, since I'm talking really fast, I'm talking in a really
strong Mancunian accent. You can't understand...a fucking word
I'm saying, can you? Is that yes? Oh dear, I apologize then, in
advance."
_True___Faith_
BS: "All right, for the next song, I need a guitar please...Jason,
Jason, Jason. [you can then see Jason rush out to hand it to him].
Okay, this is True Faith."
BS: "Thank you. And we got the end right as well, that's...that's
very uncommon. They all got a bit of a youth conponent(?)"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, you got to take this song very seriously, because this
is a song by Joy Division. Of course, they were a very serious band,
that group. Unlike(?) New Order."
Hooky points at someone in the audience, and proceeds to tear this
person a new one.
PH: "I bet if got...If I got a [p...unintelligable], come and sit next
to me, you cunt, because you're a fucking dickhead."
BS: "This is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Hooky yells out something which I can't make out during the last
part of the song. Guitar outro coda.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
BS: "Thanks for singing it out loud as well. We appreciate it as
much as you appreciate it."
_Temptation_
Hooky starts humming to fill in the silence.
BS: "This is Temptation."
Very good rendition.
BS: "Thank you very much. It's not even our best song, but it's a
good one. It is our best song, actually. And that (some) may say
that it's our most famous one, Damien."
_Blue___Monday_
We're going to play for you now our most famous song. Or as I just
said, it's not our best song, it's our most famous song, but that's the
way the world turns, innit. It's that the most popular songs aren't
necessarily your best song. This is Blue Monday."
It has the high pitched keyboard effects pretty much throughout.
Female announcer can be heard at about 5:45 on the broadcast
version. Excellent Phil guitar in this, too.
For Blue Monday, instead of the screen, the videotaper films the
stage, at least for a part of the song.
BS: "Thanks a lot, you've been a really great audience, and we've
been a very great group. Cheers, thanks a lot Belgium, see you again
in 20 years. Well, maybe not that long actually. Thank you, good
night!"
Source are MP3's made available by NOOL, taken from an audience
recording (in mono), as well as a DVB broadcast.
_Crystal_
(not broadcast)
BS: "I don't need a transmitter because I'm half from the international
language of love. And I speak the language of music, and music needs no
translation, and this is Crystal."
Some distortion is evident on this track.
BS: "Yeah, thank you! Cheers, thanks a lot, Turin. Thanks for cheering,
Turin. You know, there's a very famous person from Manchester who is called
Alan Turing. I'm sure Tony knows all about that. Oh dear."
Fans shout out for stuff, the taper apparently drops what sounds like
his change on the mic, while something like the drumbeat for 'In A
Lonely Place' makes an appearance.
BS: "Has a good groove, don't it? I'd like to play that at my funeral,
actually."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, thank you."
_Love___Vigilantes_
(not broadcast)
BS: "Okay, right, well, the next song, next... [rest is muttered] ...Hooky...
Okay, this is Love Vigilantes."
At the end comes one of the strangest Bernard pronouncements heard in
quite a while.
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
PH: "What do you mean, cheers?"
BS: "You know, we took the ending of that song from an horrible Stevie
Wonder song, which one was it, "I Just Called To Say I Love You". You
check the ending of that song off, it's horrible. It's so horrible,
we copied it. You don't know what I'm saying, do you, because you're
Italian."
I daresay he's correct, only the Brits in the audience likely understand
what he's rambling about.
BS: "Manchester United...will never be defeated."
That *does* get a reaction out of the crowd, not a pleasant one, of
course.
_Krafty_
BS: "Anyway, whereever we're from, we're all here to have a good time.
It's a beautiful evening here in Turin. And we're gonna play a good-time
song for you now, it's called Krafty, which was one of our singles."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
BS: "I've got to tune up for a minute, very professional these days. It's
perfectly tuned, Dave, why, you don't even need to touch it.... When I said
'professional' I was referring to our road crew, not us, of course. We're
still punks, aren't we? [cymbal crash] with a small P."
(only the first sentence in included in the broadcast)
_Transmission_
BS: "This is a Joy Division song, it's called Transmission."
BS: "Thank you. Thank you very much."
Italian punter screams something in between these tracks.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, that was a Joy Division song. We're gonna play another Joy
Division song, and it's called Atmosphere."
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Nlw you have to bear with us, erm, with this
next song, because I think we've not played it for erm, many, many years.
We've not, I've not really got a fucking clue on how to play it really,
played it once in the soundcheck today, so if it sounds shite, it's
punk, right? This is Everything's Gone Green. It's got really miserable
fucking lyrics."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, the next track we're going to play, is we're going to bring you
up to date a little bit, is "Waiting For The Siren's Call".
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Jerry, can you turn my guitar down a little
bit now please."
BS: "Okay, we've just got to change out the guitars, won't be a second.
330, Damien."
"Haus" Keyboard plonking.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, erm...ooh, we're gonna play a dance tune now called True Faith.
It's this red light Andy, I can see it, you know, I'm not daft."
Poor Andy.
Quite a bit of distortion on this track.
Cheers, thank you."
Edit at end suggests this was sourced from audio tape!
A/B split at this point. This misses out on some spacey keyboards and
Bernard hocking up a lung that's present on the FM version.
BS: "I'm coughing better today, I'm coughing better today. Okay, this is
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
Intro is truncated slightly.
BS: (sounding a bit out of breath) "Cheers, thanks a lot."
PH: "All right, Phil. You know that I can't see you over there, it's
pretty dark."
BS: "Tell you what, I don't know how hot it is down there, but it's pretty
hot up here, with those lights. Staying over here isn't very funny, I didn't
say it in the first place....but you're not really charming, that's why. "
Bernard may have been responding to Hooky's jibe due to the lights being
dimmed, not sure.
During the middle of this a female punter swears and calls for something
in her native tongue.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play another Joy Division tune, because
it's 25 years since Ian Curtis died, our good old friend Ian. Having
to play Love Will Tear Us Apart now. You started talking..."
Some muttering, and then the songs starts.
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
Ends in a bit of bass feedback."
_Temptation_
(not broadcast)
BS: "There's still more, there's still more."
BS: "Guys, here's another one. Right, ok, now I can tell you off.
This is Temptation."
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot, you've been a great audience. It's been an
honor playing Turin for you, got a lot in common with Manchester.
Don't know what but fin... we have(?)..."
Encore break at this point.
_Your___Silent___Face_
(not broadcast)
Tape break at this point.
BS: "We never ever ever do encores, but tonight we'll make an exception."
Uh huh.
BS: "Is everyone having a good festvial? What you doing after the show,
because we don't...we'd like for all of you to come back to our hotel and
party with us. We're staying at Hotel Bastardos. Anyway, enough of my
yacking, this is called Your Silent Face."
I guess there was no vacancies at the Hotel Tuat.
BS: "Thank you. I'm sorry about the chord at the end from our Phil
Cunningham. [Phil plays something offkey] What chord was that, Phil,
play it again..."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Thank you, thank you. And we dunno...we're gonna play She's Lost
Control by Joy Division."
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Cheerful that one, innit?"
Rough edit between SLC and _Blue___Monday_. The broadcast has a male
announcer talking...of course, over Bernard's pronouncement.
Phil throws in the keyboard line to Trans-Europe Express at the start.
Very much a "kitchen-sink" version. Bravo.
A couple minutes after the end with punters cheering for the group to
come back on.
Incomplete broadcast from BBC3. Features brief interview with Hooky and
Stephen, interesting bits being that Hooky cops to the '86 Playhouse gig
as being crap, and that the bassist Interpol was stalking him, wanting
to stroke his equipment, hopefully meaning his musical instrument!
_Regret_
BS: "We're gonna start with Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. All, right I'm ready for bed now."
Viking soundtrack of "NUUUH ODDDAH", of course...
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, this is our recent #5 hit single. It's Krafty."
It appears that underneath his green blazer, Bernard is wearing the
2005 issue green Ceremony T-shirt! What bands wear their own shirts?
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Whoa, thank you, thanks very much.
Just chill out a bit while we have a drink."
_Crystal_
BS: "Right, this is Crystal, and we've got a very special guest,
but wait and see. Okay, Rog."
After Dawn Zee's cauterwauling intro vocals...
BS: "Please welcome Brandon Flowers from the Killers."
As dire as you can imagine it, and I actually like the Killers.
'Need a little time to wake up' line sung by Brandon (appropriately)
a few times here.
BS: "Thank you, a big hand to Brandon...and the Killers, we're big
fans of theirs, thank you."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "You start this one, Hooky."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Edited, so there's no stage comments beforehand.
Hooky calls out, "Ready, Steve!" before bridge.
Bernard chirps out "C'mon!" and "hey, hey, hey". to get the audience
more into it. Hooky cries out, "Here we go!"
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Announcer: "The Monday morning, the last two of [?] six,
in other words, twelve 'till two o'clock. And it's not very
often you get to see a band who really did do something
original, did launch new music rather than acres of hype,
who always did their own thing and let others follow,
well one of those bands is New Order, and they're headlining
[?] on the ticket stage axiom[?] set the level for all the
young pretenders to, [Bernard at this point says, "Okay"],
well, pretend they can reach I suppose."
(the following from Bernard doesn't appear on the FM version,
you have to go to ATR's recording to hear it, as the FM doesn't
have Regret, Krafty, or Love Vigilantes)
BS: "Hi, everyone. You know...[what up]"
BS: "Okay, the size of the audience...I guess the Foo Fighters...
they don't even know who we are [fans boo]...but you know what?
They sound like the fucking Fall! [fans cheer]."
PH: "80,000 people can't be wrong, can they?" (a reference
to the Fall's greatest hits album)
_Regret_
BS: "This is a tune to our songs they can whistle along to, especially
this one, it's called Regret."
_Krafty_
BS: "Thank you, and cheers. Hey, [name, sounds like Mourie], my voice
is a little bit distorted. Hooky's a little bit loud, and Phil's a little
bit loud. Cheers, thank you, have you had a good festival?" [cheers]
For once, the sun's been shining down on you...on this wonderful country
you have is yours. [anyway] I'll be careful what I say, Andy. It's sunny,
anyway, sunny....Which takes us nicely into a nice sunny song that we...off
our last album called Krafty."
At some points members in the crowd are much louder in the mix than Bernard
is...could be they were having mic issues.
BS: "Thank you, cheers. Thank you."
Keyboard twinkle.
Announcer: "Now if you hear someone shout, "Boogie on, Bernie",
at the front of the stage, that was probably me. New Order, live
from 2FM, at Oxegen."
_Crystal_
A spirited performance.
BS: "Okay, yo one two one two."
BS: "Okay, uh...this is Crystal. Okay I was going to tell you what this song
was about but I haven't f...got a bleeding clue what it's about. It's about
breaking glass. Okay, this is Crystal."
(near end of song)
PH: "Ready? You ready baldie? You ready? You ready?"
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Whoa, whoa one two, one two."
BS: "Jerry, can you take a little bit of bottom off of me voice, and put
a bit of top on, it's quite boomy up here."
_Transmission_
Punters (Vikings really) chant "New Order".
PH: "You're gonna get a fuckin' heart attack, you."
(probably referring to Gary, the 'baldie' bits as well)
BS: "Just give us a second while we tune."
PH: "Shall we play, you ready? Ah, this is for everybody who loves music."
At 3:16, Hooky cries out "All together, Alex!"
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much."
(following dialogue and song is not on the FM version)
He coughs.
BS: "Thank you very much, a little bit out of breath after that one.
Normally, at this stage of our set, we play a slow song. But, we're not
going to tonight. All right, you don't like the slow songs? All right,
you should be watching the fucking Foo Fighters, shouldn't you? [cymbal
crash from Steve] We like to think there's a little bit of subtlety in our
...[audience these days] but obviously not!
More chants of the group's name.
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "So I'm gonna don my, gonna don my redneck heart, because we're gonna
play a redneck song now."
Bernard plays his melodica softly a bit.
BS: "It's called Love Vigilantes, that's what [Kinks-like?]"
A "1-2-3-4" gets thrown in between verses.
BS: "Thank you. That song was about my experiences in Vietnam. Which
amount to nothing. Which means that song's about nothing. I'll leave you
thinking about that one."
BS: "So is everybody camping here tonight, you all in tents? Does it get
a bit hot like at eight o'clock in the morning, when you're all hung over?
But you still want to shag your girlfriend, don't you. Nothing will put
you off. Even the flies." [he grunts and says something in a quiet voice]
BS: "Right, we're not playing a slow one, but I'm going to talk a load of shit
for a bit just so we can get our breath back because Hooky's getting on a bit
now....and I'm still [foofs] in sweating all of this energy...and Phil's got
a sweaty ass...Steve on the drums has definitely got a sweaty ass and
[drum roll] he gets off on it."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "All right, all right, all right. Erm, this is off our latest album,
Waiting For The Sirens' Call, and the track is called Waiting For The
Sirens' Call".
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Announcer: "You're listening to New Order, live at Oxegen on 2FM live."
(the broadcast cuts out Bernard's comments between songs)
BS: "Jerry, seems I've got my pack on full, can you send me more gain, my pack's
on full and it sounds distorted."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay...okay, we're gonna play a dancey tune now, because we know everyone
likes dancing. This is True Faith. One two one two. A bit brighter, please,
a bit brighter."
BS: (at about 1:00 in) "More bass sequencer!"
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
BS: "Have we got a...[rest unintelligible]"
Punters shout out for Everything's Gone Green and Slow Jam.
PH: "Yes? [while Bernard talks] Aww, can't hear you...wish I could hear you."
BS: [interrupting] "Jerry, take a bit of the bottom of the...take a bit of
the bottom off of Phil's keyboards as well, there's a right boom on the stange
from all of the...low bottom."
PH: "God, you're fucking louder than the PA, you." [laughs]
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, now we've hit on a bit of a dance tip. We could carry on, or we can
go on a Foo Fighters sort of stylee. [crowd groans] All right, I'm getting the
message that you're speaking to me...we're going to play Bizarre Love Triangle
next."
During the middle of BLT, Alex yells out, "Stop touching my microphone, dickhead!"
BS: "Cheers, thanks. Muchas gracias. Whoo!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "This is Damien, my guitar roadie. If there's any young ladies in the audience
that fancy him, he's free, you know. He's more of a worm than a snake in the trouser
department, but he's a good lookin' guy."
You can clearly hear audience members say various and sundry into the ambient mics.
At 3:26 Bernard cries, "We need your help!"
Near the end, the mic lead to Alex's rig gets pulled out a bit, as the sound shifts
to mono. It stays that way until partway through SLC.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
BS: "[Mutters something that ends in] shirt, have you, Steve?"
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay...believe it or not, we still got some more good songs left.
Eh, the front of you are going "Oooooohhhhhaa Oooooohhhhhaa".
That's what we're gonna play that one, "Oooooohhhhhaa"."
PH: "He's a charmer, innie?..."
One of Bernard's more interesting vocal efforts.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. You've been a fantastic audience. I know cuz it
says on the autocue here. Thank you very much!"
Brilliant!
Announcer: "This is 2FM live, and New Order live, at Oxegen 05, recorded by 2FM."
(cuts off Barney, making it difficult to make out the start of what he says next,
which even on the audience recording is hard to decipher.
(the rest isn't on the FM recording, but is captured in ATR's recording)
BS: "Thank you, you lot have been fucking great, hope you have a great festival,
because we've really enjoyed playing to you...from all our heart, cheers, thank
you."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Nice again, in the floor. He's a bit desperate, he's
not had a shag since 1964. Right, all right, I've just been told...we wanted
to play three songs in our encore, the powers that be will let us only do two
[boos]
(this is on the FM)
BS: "So, if you have...we could play the third one in all the time I'm wasting
in talking. So you got a choice, we could play a Joy Division song. You've got
a choice, and we want you to cheer for which one you want, the first one is
Atmosphere [moderate cheering] and the second one is She's Lost Control
[louder cheering]. I think She's Lost Control wins."
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Oh, oh, what's that? Three songs? Three? There he is,
Mr. Spoilsport!" [fans boo]
(following was left off the FM broadcast)
BS: "All right, we can't say no to your dad, can you? How dare you come onstage
with a shirt like that, you know you're not fucking in line mate, you're in Ireland.
No one tells me what to do. No one! Kiss my ass. We'll just play the two though."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "This is Blue Monday."
At this point, Alex's DAT starts cutting out during the intro portion.
Another interesting filter effect. In general, New Order have much improved the
sound of their albatross.
Announcer: "And there you go, that's New Order, live, mixed by Mark
McVeigh(?), produced by Paul McLean(?) for 2FM live at the Ticket Stage,
Oxegen, [something] '05 New Order.... [upcoming accouncement of
Kaiser Chiefs set, talking over Hooky's signoff, I believe only the
second sentence makes it to the FM braodcast]
PH: "Thanks everyone, it was really nice to be back. Thank you so much.
Good night, God bless. Take care."
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much. We've enjoyed playing to you, and we hope
it's not so long before we come back to Ireland again, you've been a great
audience, good night!" [sadly, this was the last time NO would play Ireland]
And one more shot off the bow.
BS: "Cheers, you can all get pissed now, because that's what we're gonna do."
The beginning of the end?
Johnny Giles reported that Hooky played a snatch of DNE in between
KW1 and Sirens.
Full audience tape made available by Species. Heavy bass on this
one.
Starts with a bit of Ennio Morricone as the pre-gig backign tape.
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello. I don't know where we are in Sweden, but it's very nice.
That was witty, wasn't it? [repeating to himself] I don't know where
we are in Sweden, but it's very nice. Mancunian humor, we're funny
people, we say(?). Okay, we'd like to, erm, dedicate this whole set
to Ian Curtis, whose birthday, whose birthday occurs at 12:00 tonight.
Get more gain on this backch... Jerry, put more gain from you."
BS: "Right, okay, this is Crystal."
BS: "Yeah, one one one one one."
The fans start doing the cooing backing vocals bit.
BS: "Yeahhh! Thank you."
BS: "Okay, is this the first night of your festival in Sweden, whereever
you are? Hope you're having a really good one. It's supposed to rain
tomorrow, but it always rains at all the best festivals."
BS: "You know what I don't like about festivals, I don't like the smell of
fookin' burgers. [drum crash] Especially when you've got a massive chunk
of... I don't know if you've got chunky beans in Sweden, do you? It's a
good thing."
_Regret_
BS: "This is Regret."
BS: "Thank you, thank you. The smell of burgers is overpowering..."
_Love___Vigilantes_ follows.
BS: "Thank you. Cheers, thanks a lot."
Phil tinkles the ivories.
BS: "Some water. Sarge, you got some fizzy water, please?"
BS: "Okay, are you enjoying yourselves so far? [can't make out next
phrase amid cheering and clapping]. I'm just going to have a drink
of water. And then we're going to launch into _Krafty_."
BS: "Cheers, thank you, thank you very much. It's a good one, that one.
...to shit.
_Transmission_
PH: "If someone had told me 28 years ago that we'd still be playing(?),
I'd've laughed my bollocks off."
BS: "This is Transmission."
BS: "Cheers, thank you. That was of course, Transmission by Joy Division,
who are us minus one member."
_Atmosphere_
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much, cheers, thank you."
PH: "Ahh, one two three four."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna do something whic we've never done before, which
is to play slow songs in succession, one after another song. That was a
Joy Division song, and this is a New Order song, it's called Your Silent
Face."
BS: "Thank you."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, thanks for being a really great audience. Are you enjoying
it so far because we're really enjoying playing to you. What a creep!
I've been known in certain cases in my life to be a creep, but this
time I need it. This is a track off our new album, and it's called
Waiting For The Sirens Call."
BS: "Synths up, Jerry."
At 1:45, Bernard yells out "Hold that chorus[?]".
_True___Faith_
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Especially, for the little kid who's on
his dad's shoulders over there. He's really getting into it. If
you all know what you need to do, just look at that little kid over
there who's...who's cool...he's small(?) then, but he's cool. This
is True Faith.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Wooh! Thank you very much, this is David,
my guitar roadie. He's desperate to meet a few nice young ladies.
He hasn't got a girlfriend at the moment, he's free."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "This is Bizarre Love Triangle. It's about a homosexual relationship
between Peter, our bass player, Steve, and our ... guitarist, Phil."
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
A bit of guitar tuning.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Phil's come up, this is Hooky's roadie, he's a bit desperate as well.
That's the first time I've seen him come up on the stage, actually, because
David got mentioned. This is Love Will Tear Us Apart!"
A few "C'mon's" by Barney, and Hooky calls out "Ready, Steve?" at the
bridge.
BS: "Thank you, cheers, woo! It's a good song, innit? It's not shite,
let's put it that way."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is our...this is the last song we're gonna do. I'd like
to dedicate it to the little kid on his dad's shoulder over there, it's
so cool, the little kid with mommy on his dad's shoulder. It's what we
called a chaf in Manchester. Erm, this is for Sweden as well, my favorite
country. It actually is true, for one I am not bullshitting, it's true.
I'd like to live here, if only I got a free house here. This is Temptation."
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much. It's been an honor to play in your
country. Such lovely people, it's fantastic to play here. Thank you
for having us. Good night!"
The group come back on for the encore.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Cheers, thank you, cheers."
Somebody near taper says something (in Swedish)
BS: "Erm, what we'll do now is gonna play a song that we've not
played much live, but we're gonna play it here in uh, Sweden.
We've not played it for 25 years since Ian died but we're gonna
try and play it tonight. We've not rehearsed it, so just bear
with us. Er, see the QG Hooky, Phil, it's in the QG. Steve,
the beat is like this [makes beatbox sounds!]. It's called
She's Lost Control...(mumble)...It's called She's Lost Control,
it's a Joy Division song. [intro starts] That's it."
Pure bullshit, of course.
And then he starts to sing Anita Ward's "Ring My Bell" along
to the drumbeat! Bloody brilliant.
BS: "3...4...fucking... That was a moment lost forever, that."
PH: "I got it, I got it, I really enjoyed it. Ring my fucking bell
anytime, Bernard."
BS: "One-two". And then Hooky starts in with the bass riff.
After the chorus, Bernard says something to Hooky...
BS: "'k you. Thank you! Not bad. That's the first time we've played
it in 25 years. Steve fucked up a bit, Phil fucked up a bit, Hooky
fucked up a bit, but I was all right. It's always the case...sorry...
sure if you've have...got any of our bootlegs, you know that's the [here
Hooky starts to twack his bass loudly to shut up Barney] story every
time."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Okay, we're...we're...we're gonna play a song [to close]?...it's
quite long this song, it's a good gap-filler. It's quite long. It's called
Blue Monday."
At about 5:45, a very familiar keyboard riff, that of The Perfect Kiss,
can be heard.
[as reported by Johnny Giles]
Apparently, Phil and Hooky rocked out so much that Bernard felt he had
to come back on stage to apologize for his bandmates' excessive activity.
Hooky looked very unhappy with Bernard's comment and continuted to play.
BS: "Thank you very much. I've sorry about the over...little bit of
overindulgency on that...thank you very much, it's been great playing
Sweden again, we love your country and we love your...well, we love
you. Cheers, thank you."
Then Bernard went back on the mic to explain that Phil and Hooky were
warming up for their next gig where they'd be playing with Deep Purple.
This caused Hooky to pick up his bass over his head and throw it in the
pit.
BS: "Let me explain, at the next festival we're doing, we're playing
with Deep Purple, so we're just practicing tonight. Thank you, good
night."
A bit more chatter before the tape ends.
Video Broadcast includes Crystal/Krafty/Regret/Transmission.
The rest of the tracks were broadcast on FM.
Phil appears to wear a shirt that says "NICKED".
Steve has on his space invader shirt.
_Crystal_
BS: "...What we do..." (Announcer blurts something here)
(at end)
BS: "Woo, thank you! Thank you!"
BS: "Just give us a second and we'll tune up please, That's pretty out there,
Damien, I need to change it. Jerry can you give me a bit less keyboards,
please, a little bit of top on my voice a little bit of reverb over my voice.
Yeah, is everyone having a good festival? I shall bloody well hope so."
[Morris hits his syndrums]
BS: "Okay, this is nice out, we've played about fourteen festival this
year, but this is especially a nice atmosphere, this one here in France
tonight. No, I mean it, I mean it. It's a good atmosphere. But we're
not going to play Atmosphere."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
The attractive female presenter stands behind the barricade and points toward
the band.
(at end)
BS: "Merci Beaucoup."
Some strummed guitar chords.
_Krafty_
BS: "Thank you very much. Whoo! Okay, we're gonna play, erm, Krafty next."
They play Krafty.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
PH: "Ready, Phil!"
_Transmission_
BS: "Thank you very much. This is Transmission."
(after)
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
BS: "Whooh, I'm out of breath now."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "It's nice to play a slow one now, especially for our...our
drummer, Steve, our drummer. I think he finds that one a little
bit of a challenge...."
The announcers talk though a bit of the intro. A cut as sources
change between TV broadcast and FM simulcast.
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Thanks for letting us do a slow one. Jerry, this mic's a
little bit distorted, I don't know if it's the mic or what...
again. It's good to do a slow one, but now that we're all breaking
a sweat, it's good to play some, eh...faster ones, in a minute.
This is Waiting For The Sirens' Call, of the album by the same name."
(during intro)
BS: "Synths up.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Thank you. It's great to play in France, and we hope to come
back and play a major tour someday. Just chatting a little bit while
my guitar gets tuned up. This is True Faith, Jerry I'm a little bit
distorted, so turn the gain down a bit, and I'll ta... a bit here."
BS: "Feel free to dance."
Funky guitar intro, very nice.
PH: "Cu..... here we gooooooooo...."
After bridge...
BS: "...two, three, four!"
BS: "Thank you, cheers!"
Hooky vamps a bit at the end.
PH: "Thought that was Deep Purple, liked it."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Cheers, thank you.
_Love___Will___Tear__Us___Apart_
BS: "Thank you very much. Hope you're enjoying it. I'm afraid it's
started raining, if you haven't noticed."
Bernard does a couple of "C'mon's", as he typically does here.
BS: "Whooo! That's for Ian Curtis, a real friend. It's for everybody
else in France, cuz, erm, when we first started as Joy Division, France
embraced us very much and we never forgot it, thank you."
French translation here.
_Temptation_
BS: "I'd like to dedicate this next song, for, er, all the people who are
victims of terrorism and all the people in London who have died recently,
who've suffered, erm, at the hands of bad people. Also, anyone's who
suffered from loss. We're living in a pretty tough world at the moment,
and we're like to hope the music helps out a little bit and puts us in
touch with ourselves. This is Temptation, it's off of...se...girls(?)"
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much, you've been a great audience.
It's been an honor to play in your country, thank you. That's it,
folks!"
More from the French announcer.
Encore tracks.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "We never know we're gonna do encores. This year we're...
(the announcers talk over the intro, argh!)
This is She's Lost Control."
BS: "Merci Beaucoup. Thank you very much."
French announcer talks at this point.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "Woo, cheers, thank you for being a great audience. We've got a
group of fans over here from England They're called the Vikings. I
don't know why because they're from England, not Denmark. They should
be called the Hooligans. And, erm, they've requested that we play an
old New Order song called Everything's Gone Green. We've not rehearsed
it so if it sounds shite let us know and we'll stop."
A more solid version than Torino's.
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Didn't go too badly that, did it?"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Sometimes, I get the impression in New Order it's a competition
to see who can finish last. We're getting closer and closer to Deep
Purple, it's very relevant that we play with Deep Purple tonight,
because every day in every way we become purpler and purpler, especially
certain pats of our anatomy. Cheers, anyway, and we're gonna play one
more song tonight. As the Japanese say, it's called "Brue Monday".
Hooky cries out during the bridge, "Monday, let see the punters, man.
Let's see the punters!"
At the 5:30 point:
PH: "Andy, let's have the lights on, man! Yeah, that's better.
Fookin' hell, put 50p in the meter, Andy, fuck me."
(at end)
PH: "Looks nice there Andy, looks really nice. [laughs] See you
in thirty years!"
Cool filter sweep effects.
BS: "And thank you very much, I'm sorry about the, erm, aural masturbation at the end.
But we've got all somthing there for us. Au revoir monsieur, au revoir madame,
je ne paid(?) New Order."
And, you guessed it, the announcers talk at the end.
Video (billed as a pt.1) only featuers Crystal, Krafty (partly
sung in Japanese) and Love Will Tear Us Apart.
New Order performed on the Green Stage.
_Crystal_
BS: "Thank you, cheers, thank you!"
_Krafty_
BS: "More bass sequencer, Jerry. Ready? Here we go."
As noted above, Bernard sings the first and last verses in
Japanese.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
Bernard does his usual "C'mon" exhortations.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Three tracks (Transmission/Atmosphere/Warsaw) were aired on Radio 1.
The others were filmed by at least two different audience members.
Feargal Sharkey introduces the group.
_Transmission_
BS: "Cheers, thank you. And thank you Feargal for such a wonderful
introduction. But really, tonight's not about us, it's about John,
so eveything we do is memory of him."
BS: "Now we'll calm you all, but now paradoxically..."
[he stumbles saying this way, which is why this was likely cut from
the BBC broadcast]
BS: "We're gonna play a Joy Division set for you tonight, and we're
gonna start with Transmission."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Whoo. Of cource, we're playing this concert tonight because
John Peel was the first person to ever play Joy Division nationwide
live on air in the UK. And we feel that we owe him a debt for doing
that because if it was wasn't for John we would have gone fucking
nowhere.
Drums start up...
BS: "This is She's Lost Control."
PH: "A little bit more guitar please, Jerry. A bit more of Bernard's
guitar please."
BS: "Thank you, cheers. There are a few technical problems up here..."
I presume at this point somebody yelled out for LWTUA.
PH: "C'mon lads, now. That's one you know we're doing."
_Shadowplay_
BS: "Okay, thank you very much, this is Shadowplay."
Looks like the guitar sound was still acting up.
Definitely a surprise to see that this had been dug out and redusted.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "I want to dedicate this one to my daughter, Jessica, she's seven
today."
Folks shout, "New Order, New Order!"
Bernard hears this and makes the following quip.
BS: "Well, we're not going to play any New Order songs for you tonight
because John, I don't think John did any Hooky, did John play any New Order
songs, not a one."
Midway, Bernard gives up on the guitar and pics up the mic off its stand,
and even dances a bit like he's peforming BLT.
BS: "All right, calm down a bit, calm down a bit! Fookin' hell, you
would think it was Madonna up here tonight. It's not Madonna, it's prima
donna. I'm not in front [whining to?] you, but could I have a guitar that
works, please?"
Sarge exorts the crowd to move back.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, so we're approaching the end of our set now, and my guitar's
finally working now."
The BBC broadcast resumes at this point.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay, this is one of John's...most...I think it was his most
forward track that people liked, it's a Joy Division song of course
called Atmosphere."
After the first verse he says, "Move back a bit, move back a bit!"
BS: "Thank you very much, but listen, chill out, chill out. We
don't want anyone to get hurt in front of here, especially me.
C'mon, we don't want another Altamont, we don't want another Altamont."
_Warsaw_
PH: "Let's do this one for Ian, lads."
Storming rendition of this tune, not heard from the lads in 25 years.
Sarge has to do more work keeping the hordes at bay.
BS: "Wooo! Thank you very much for supporting us all these years.
Thanks for Jonathan for including us, of course. Cheers, thank you!"
PH: "Good night, everybody!"
There's a webcast of this performance, as well as at least a couple different
audience tapes, all of which was used for the purposes of this writeup.
Intrestingly enough, the webcast seems to have been in mono.
The song on the PA right before Alan Wise takes the stage was Afrika Bambataa's
"Planet Rock"...
The chanting begins.
_Alan___Wise___Intro_
AW: "Shut up that horrible music. All right, you'll just have to wait two
minutes, cuz the band are on the toilet. But I want to dedicate a little
something to the person that's largely forgotten about, the man whose
working behind the scenes to entertain you, I want to give a big cheer
for Mr. Simon Mirande. He's normally not here at the gig, but he's the
man making all this possible for you. So think of Simon in your prayers
tonight, as I will. And now I want to introduce four crazy lads, [at
this point somebody throws an object at Alan, which connects] fookin'
hell that's the cam, that's the fine, around five thousand pounds, that's
just cost Simon five thousand pound, folks. I want to introduce five crazy
lads who in their own way with their mop hair want to change the world
with their own crazy views, from Unsworth, the fabulous Beezles..."
_Ceremony_
BS: "Hello. I didn't realize Alan used the same microphone as me
'till just now. We were...[few words unintelligible] those horrible
coats he always wears. Right...we're going to start these proceedings
tonight with a Ceremony."
PH: "We dedicate this to Phil Grubb, and tell his brother Darren we're
thinking about you, man."
The monitor speakers on the backline had his name scrawled on him,
though amusingly enough, they had "Chubb" written on until somebody
corrected it just before the group went on.
Hooky is very promiment on backing vocals. Excellent version of this
time-honored classic.
BS: "Yeah! I like the pulse ending there Steve, very good that...
a very nice improvisation from Steve there, thank you."
Lots of chants for "New Order" here.
BS: "Okay, hopufully we're going to have a really good night together
here, we played Brixton Academy on Thursday, and, as an audience we got
to beat that, cuz this is Manchester, innit."
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Okay, this is Love Vigilantes."
The whole audience sounds like they're singing along.
BS: "Yeah! Cheers, thank you."
Chanting gets really loud here.
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, the next song we going to play features guest vocalist Dawn Zee.
Please give her a big hand. From Manchester, from er, Moss Side. She's a
lovely girl but a bit of a trouble-causer. She nearly got me arrested last
week!"
Hrm, don't know if he's joshing or if something DID happen.
BS: "Anyway, this is Crystal."
BS: "Thank you! Cheers, thank you."
PH: "All right, G. We need the oxygen pumps working. Good."
Muttering close to the taper as well as the classic "Manchester, la la la."
_Regret_
BS: "All right, is everyone having a good time? Right...we're not sure you
like that. This is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much, cheers. Whoo!"
More chants of...you know what...
_Krafty_
Phil tinkles the keys here a bit.
BS: "Okay, er, we're gonna bring things a decade or so up to date...
and this is Krafty."
Somewhat tepid response.
BS: "C'mon, sound a bit more enthusiastic, yeah!"
Bernard than slurs something mocking the crowd: "It might work..."
BS: "Woo, thank you very much. As we're professional now, give me a
minute while we tune up. I bet fucking Jennifer Lopez doesn't do this...
but she wouldn't, would she, she doesn't play guitar. [still tuning]
I'll try to think of something else, fast."
_Turn_
BS: "Okay, this is a song we're only played once before, so if we cock it
up, bear with us. It's a song off our last album, and it's called Turn."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
Bernard then mutters something about his microphone, I think.
More chanting.
_Transmission_
BS: "Is that it? Can we go home now? See that pale water...used to be wine,
and before than it was Pernod, before that it was Asta Spumante, and before that
it was brown ale, before that it was mild, before that it was Coca-Cola, before
that it was mother's milk. And now it's Perrier water."
PH: (to end Bernard's spiel) "Hit it, Phil."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Whoo! So you're still having a good time? Well, thank you very much,
that was the plan. Now for your sake, not for our sake, we're gonna slow
things down a little bit now [some folks boo]. I know it's a little bit of
a cliche there, I heard a few people boo there, obviously we'll speed
things up a little bit at the end. This is Your Silent Face."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "He's very good, isn't he, he's very good. (directed at Hooky, strangely
enough). Well that was supposed to be a breather, but it wasn't much of a
breather. Okay, we're gonna go to, eh, our last album, whatever the fucking
hell...it was called Waiting For the Sirens' Call, wasn't it, yeah. We're
gonna play Waiting For The Sirens' Call, which we've never played in Manchester
before. So we're gonna premiere it for you. Here we go."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Thank you, cheers! Thank you. I had a dream this morning, right,
that I threw one of my guitar picks out, and it hit one of the audience in
the eye, and he sued me. So, if anyone tries to do it, I've already
beaten you to the post."
PH: (at 1:16 in) "Yeah! It's like 1988 all over again!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Thank you, thank you very much."
PH: "All right Stefan, where are you? There are, fuck me, a million
people called Stefan. Hehehehehe."
BS: "Great, we've got a nice relaxing one next."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Thank you. You can see from our screens here, that we've got a slow,
relaxing one next. Actually, it's Love Will Tear Us Apart."
_Temptation_
BS: "Where can it possibly go from there? Anyone that good would be walking
off stage now and not do the encore. But we like to think we're a cut above
the rest. This is Temptation."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, cheers!"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Now where can it possibly go from that one? Here's where. This is
for the Manchester Evening News."
Like the most recent performances, this has a synth line not far removed
from The Perfect Kiss, very nice touch.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot, you've been a great audience! It's great to play
Manchester again, thank you!"
About a couple of minutes of break between main set and encore. After
about 50 seconds folks start clapping and chanting for the Order.
_Shadowplay_
BS: "Do you realize how knackered we are? Okay, we're gonna play another...
Joy Division medley for you now. If you can see the neck of my guitar, Andy,
please...this is Shadowplay."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Warsaw_
BS: "We're gonna play our one and only pogo one(?) for you tonight...I think
it was...was it called Warsaw? Never played it in Manchester I don't
think. I could be wrong. Let's...[can't make out rest here]".
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Whoo. Right. At this point we let you decide what we're gonna
play next. So long last, it's one of these two songs...Atmosphere [cheers]
or She's Lost Control [slightly more cheering]
BS: (not able to discern a clear winner) "Oh, c'mon make your mind up, what
it's gonna be? I can't understand you if you're mumbling, you know? Atmosphere?
[more cheers] She's Lost Control? [decidedly louder cheers]
BS: "I guess we'll have to play both, won't we? I guess we'll play She's
Lost Control first." Which they do.
(at end)
BS: "Merci Beaucoup. Thank you. We can't go now Hooky, no, we can't go
home just yet, there's one more to play. It's a very beautiful song, I think
it's the most beautiful song most certainly Joy Division's ever wrote, it's
called Atmosphere."
_Atmosphere_
PH: "I'd like to dedicate this to your wife Bernard, cuz she's been bopping
up bollocks up there. C'mon, Sarah, this one's for you, darling."
BS: "Thanks a lot, it's been great playing in Manchester. You've been
ace, and we've...I think we've been pretty good as well. It's always
nice to play your hometown. Good night everyone! Have a safe journey home."
PH: "Good night and God bless!"
From worldinmotion.net:
New Order go back to school
Playing in front of 200 children who weren't even born
when the band began, the gig came about after an
associate of the group mistakenly rang up the school
and got talking to the Deputy Head.
Frontman Bernard Sumner then visited the school, which
specialises in art and technology for children with
complex learning difficulties, and promptly promised
to play a gig in the assembly hall for a special art
class.
"I had a bad experience at school," Sumner told
NME.COM, "and it's nice to see that the education
authorities have changed their attitude towards
creativity. We don't make things in Manchester anymore
since the big industries closed down, but it's a very
creative place. Just look at the bands. It's just
really nice to see the education authorities, after
what I was told, investing in creativity instead of
putting it on the back burner."
Playing for little under an hour before the 3 o'clock
bell, the band tore through hits old and new, with
Sumner quipping; "I'd heard our audiences were getting
younger! Where's the music teacher? We can't read
music you know, it's all up here."
But the show was not without its share of rock'n'roll
behaviour. Before dedicating 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'
to head teacher Janis Triska, bassist Peter Hook said:
"I promised I wouldn't swear... but FUCK OFF!" and
promptly brought the pre-pubescent house down.
New Order played:
'Crystal'
During the Doves set:
BS: "It's not New Order. Isn't Manchester great? It's really
great that all you people have turned up for an event like tonight
which is really really important. Everyone knows somebody who's
suffered in some way from cancer and we thank everybody for coming
and thanks for donating the money. Right, I'm not turning into
Bob Geldolf, don't worry, I'm still a bit of a twat. And this
is isn't no love [?], he stood next for me, stealing for the good.[?]"
_Vicious_ (Lou Reed)
BS: "Okay, we're going to do a track called Viscuous, Viscuous, by Lou Reed."
(I believe he's intentionally mispronouncing the title!)
He then does a fairly decent job singing here. Johnny Marr is also
on guitar.
BS: "Woo! 'k you!. Thank you. Right in front there, cheers, thanks
a lot. But from New York a song called Lou Reed we're going to take you
all the way to Wolverhamption, and a guy called (what's his name?)
Take It Easy from Wolverhamption, this is 'Ghost In My House'."
Yes, it's the Fall song! Mark E. Smith would be turning in his grave,
if only he were dead. Again, good stuff.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot. Cheers, thanks a lot. I like to thank the
Doves for having me and Johnny, and Johnny for turning up, and I like to
thank myself. And I'll see you shortly. Keep it up!"
The inimitatable Alan Wise introduces the proceedings:
AW: "Oh well. Thank you, Tin Tin. Ladies and gentlemen, watch the
boys sing themselves out, I want to to introduce to you the man, they
caught the ball roll in... [?] Mr. Anthony Wilson!"
The crowd shows their appreciation by booing very loudly.
AHW: "One, two, three. That was Alan Wise, who normally introduces
New Order. All we have to say, ladies and gentlemen, the inventors of
modern music, New Order!"
Bernard goes up to the mic.
BS: "We love him really, though. He's a good chap, Tony."
BS: "And, I'd like to thank the DJ for playing Coldplay just before we came
on stage."
The DJ actually played Kraftwerk's 'Tour De France'. This is in reference to
Coldplay's appropriation of Kraftwerk's 'Computer Love' in their song Talk, as
the taper explains to a girl in the crowd. Not to defend Coldplay, but I guess
New Order either don't realize or don't care that Kraftwerk gave them
permission to use it, as Hooky had made a similar dig before.
BS: "Okay, we're...obviously, we're New Order."
PH: "Hey, let's fookin' tear the house down then. Hit it, Phil!"
The first song performed is _Transmission_.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Woo! Thank you. Wow, I know we're New Order. A lot of you like New
Order, but we're here to play Joy Division today, so we're here to play
Joy Division as well, because they were pretty good too. This is She's
Lost Control."
Hooky plucks his bass a few times at the end of the song.
PH: "Just want to say goodbye to a few people. Goodbye Rob Griley(?),
goodbye Mikey Williams, and goodbye Brian Clancy, rest in peace."
_Shadowplay_
BS: "Jerry, my guitar please. Throw it anywhere, don't know where it is.
I know..we have to do it...I have to do it with this one. My guitar
keeps coming in the right, Jerry."
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
PH: "Andy, a little bit of light man, I can't see these fuckers. Thank you.
That's better. There you are."
BS: "And it's really good for all these bands from Manchester to get...
to get together. Whereever we play in the world everyone's telling else,
like in America and everywhere, what a great place Manchester is for bands.
And, er, oh, you know, to...Andy Rourke...he's got this whole things
together, we'd like to thank him for that. And it's great that all
these bands are finally playing with each other, because Manchester
is a great place."
_Atmosphere_ follows.
Bernard coughs.
_Twenty___Four___Hours_
BS: "I'm coughing better today, thank you. Er, we're going to do a song
now, that apart from rehearsals we've not placed...we've not played, since...
you know, our dear friend Ian Curtis died, and it's called 24 Hours.
So bear with us."
PH: "Oh, I dedicate this one to Andy Rourke. Because tonight, Andy, you're
number one!"
Hooky shouts "Where's the light, Andy?" about a minute in.
_Warsaw_
BS: "One two, one two, bring my guitar please, Jerry. Maybe through
the [can't make out]...there."
PH: "This is going all too quickly, isn't it? All right, Phil."
BS: "Woo! Thank you! Obviously, that was one of our more punky songs
that we played at the start of Joy Division before we got...you know..."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Natalie, this is for you, love."
BS: (continuing) "Before we got melodic and started doing lovely little
tunes like this...lovely bitch like this, they used to say, I don't mean
to be derogatory. This is 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'."
Hooky yells out, "C'mon, love!".
(at end)
BS: "I'm afraid that's it from us." Folks groan.
_Ceremony_
BS: "No, it isn't...we forgot...we've actually forgotten to play a song.
Who's fault was it then, whose fault?"
PH: "It was not mine because I remembered, you see, now...old twat.
Now last but by no means least."
BS: "Okay, I hope I don't have to explain this. This is Ceremony."
A storming version.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. I'm pretty sure that's it then, it was very nice.
That's it. You've been great, thanks for turning up. It's...you know...
just brilliant, I was gonna to say. I'm on the verge of gushing, so
good night, thank you."
Hooky's bass notes linger...
The band join in on Happy Mondays' 'Wrote For Luck' during the all-star
encore, with you-know-who's bass present throughout.
Recording (what made it) courtesy of TJ, remarkable for the sheer awfulness
(according to him, not me!) of having inebreiated English cheering and singing
along to the hits, plus the recording level is way too high, sounding distored.
Bernard says something about getting something which can't be made out.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "...a song about Joy Division. This is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Recorder cuts off for a few seconds.
Bit of a discussion about SLC being next, which it's not. None of the other
fan discussion/interaction/singing will be noted unless relevant.
BS: "Hey, is anyone from England here? Everyone. It's quite...quite a turn."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, this is Crystal."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, is everyone having a good time so far? Okay, this is a song called Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot!"
_24___Hours_
BS: "Our next song, we're gonna hop back to Joy Division again, this is 24 Hours."
Bernard uses a more expressive voice than normal when singing some of the lyrics.
Lots of folks near the front call out for Sarge.
_Krafty_
BS: "Lower Hooky actually, Jerry. We're going to bring things bang up to date now.
This is a tune on the ...new single...it's called Krafty."
"Next one wins the sweep", with Transmission being the odds on favorite.
BS: "Could have sworn it was out out of tune, must be out of playing it."
_Working___Overtime_
BS: "Okay, in the key of C, this is Working Overtime."
So much for winning...
_Transmission_ follows.
The tape cuts.
Recording done by Schoff, an excellent-sounding one it is, too.
NOOL should have plenty of info regarding the gig itself, suffice it
to say that security was extra-tight, to the consternation of Hooky.
The inimitatable Alan Wise takes the stage...
AW: [coughs/laughs twice] "I've undone me fly, mother...(?)
Ah, Liverpool! Liverpool. So much more beautiful than Manchester.
[this is greeted with boos] Which is so ugly compared to Liverpool
(somebody starts chanting 'Manchester la la la'). Still, being
by the water, you could get hit by a tsunami. Do you know know what
a tsunami is? Well, here's one you've been waiting for, your own
tsunami from Manchester, the fabulous Four Tops!"
Fade out/in on recording.
Guitar strum.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "All right, Liverpool. Obviously, we're New Order. And I'm
Bernard Sumner, and I'm just checking my on-stage sound, everything
seems to be all right, this is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Bernard flubs the second line, I guess he was having problems reading
the autocue.
Hooky cries "Here we go, Steve" as he frequently does after the
choruses.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! You know about what we're gonna start a
set with."
PH: "Just want to say hello to Pete wylie. Glad that he's still alive
almost."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, this is Crystal."
_Regret_
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Whoo! That's a great song to play live out.
Ch...very else but g... [can't make out what he says here] I regret
what you said, as it includes the next song, this is Regret.
Fans start shouting "Nu ordah" nearby...
_Twenty___Four___Hours_
Reverb on Bernard's vocals is pretty noticeable.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. That was obviously a song by Joy Division
called 24 Hours, not 24 Hour Party People by the Happy Mondays, don't
ever get confused. However, there's a lot of New Order fans here
tonight, so just for them I'm going to play one or two New Order
songs, this is Krafty."
New Order next play _Krafty_.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
PH: "Hey, we realize that you boys in yellow, you boys in yellow
have a got a tough job, but uh, chill out a bit, eh lads. Fuckin'
hell! We're meant to be enjoying ourselves."
_Working___Overtime_
BS: "Okay, this is called Working Overtime. 1-2-3-4."
Already sounds an improvement over the LP version.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
_Transmission_
BS: "Whoo! Okay, we're doing a few rocky ones at the start, I hope
you like them. We never know with New Order whether we're getting
a dance audience or a rock audience. So, being em, crowd pleasers
we like to chuck in a few in of each. So we've just played all those
rocky ones, guess what we're going to do now, we're going to play
another rocky one, it's called Transmission."
Hooky's backing is pretty loud here.
BS: "Cheers, thank you." Third song in a row he says that.
Fans start shouting "Nu ordah" again...bit of a pause between tracks.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Whoa. Okay, for your sake as much as ours...as ours, we're going
to slow things down a little bit now. If I wasn't knackered, it'd be
all right...getting on a bit. All right, this is Your Silent Face.
Bernard plays melodica off-mic.
BS: "You could chill out a little bit to this one."
lyric: "A thought that never changes remains the worst time."
The singer lets the fans sing the "piss off" bit.
BS: "Cheers, thank you, it's one of my favorites. Didn't have to
be hard, fast, and bum, bum, bum...in your face". Meanwhile Hooky
starts humming to himself (which is why Bernard was doing 'bum bum
bum', a weird little busk, that...but little does the listener suspect
Hooky's about to blow his lid with respect to the security.
PH: "Hey, we have another complaint about you cunts in yellow.
I think you're being intimidating, actually, and it's pissing me
off. Right? So back off, for fuck's sake!! I'm watching it
from up here, you know. I can see it, and as far as I'm concerned,
it's YOU that's been starting it. One more and I'll fuck off, and
then you deal with it, right?"
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "This is Waiting For The Sirens' Call".
Pretty clear there's use of prerecorded vocals here, since you can
hear Bernard singing along with himself.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. That's my favorite song off the last album,
hope you like it as well."
PH: "Fucking hate it when you know how a tune you just played is shit.
I hate that. You can blame them. Ha ha ha." He's referring to the
'cunts in yellow', of course.
_Turn_
BS: "Okay, this is one called _Turn_."
Another obvious appearance of pre-recorded vocals at one point.
PH: "[mumbles] Oh, they've brought in the big guns now. Yay hey!
We're all bullied at school, you know."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Cheers, Shelly. All right, that's...that's enough of that
fucking rocky stuff. Hate it when someone gives me a microphone
covered in vaseline, wonder where it's...where it's been. Okay,
this is Bizarre Love Triangle...[tremendous cheering]...talk on
the subject...while we're on the subject."
A couple more cries of you know what...
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this next track...er, we've had a lot of hell with this
track. This re...we're gonna play partially the remix, and er, it
was remixed by a group not too far away from Liverpool called
K-Klass...oi, who? K-Klass, K-Klass. This is..."
PH: "Forgot what it's fucking called..."
BS: "True Faith, True faith."
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
Some piano keys, too.
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is my all-time favorite New Order song, it's called
Temptation."
At end...
BS: "Cheers, thank you. It's a good song that one, you know [something]..."
We've gone all...all night without mentioning Wayne Rooney. You got any
Portugal fans here. All right, we don't want to end on a sour note, do
we? Any Manchester United fans here? [they really take that poorly,
as one can imagine]. It's a good job we did the last...last, last glasses
in New Order, innit?" (can't 100% parse the last night).
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Fully realize they resurrected it for the fans, so I won't be too
harsh on it. This version may be a grower.
This song segues into _Blue___Monday_, which mixes Kyle's "set me
free" vocals mixed it.
BS: "Cheers, thank you Liverpool, we always love playing here, and it's
the truth, it's not bullshit. Thank you, good night."
A few minutes between main set and encore. Fans clap loudly, and
finally the group come back on.
_Ceremony_
PH: "Thought for one minute you might have gone then. We come back,
we know fun(?) here. Always wrong."
BS: "Sorry that took so long. Phil decided that was a good time for
a shit for some reason. I would've waited a bit longer, meself."
Hooky goes apeshit, yelling "yeaaaah!" and "come on, everyone".
At 4:10 or so he says something I'd like to make out.
BS: "Thank you! Cheers, thanks a lot."
_Shadowplay_
BS: "We've kind of...kind of wrote that in Joy Division, and played
it in New Order. This one was writting in Joy Division, and played
in Joy Division, it's Shadowplay."
Good version, it is.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot. It's been great playing here. Hope
you've enjoyed it as much as we have. Good night."
Phil and Hooky play an outro piece to finish up.
Writeup based on FM broadcast carried by Radio 3 in Spain.
_Crystal_
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much. Thank you!
_Regret_
BS: "I can tell you're gonna be a great audience already.
And it's only the first song. All we need is a litte bit of
enthusiasm, we won't give it back."
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
BS: "Eh, Jerry, can I(?)..."
(obscured by announcer who talks over Bernard's comment)
_Ceremony_ is interrupted on the broadcast by, of all things, a Moby song,
which is inexplicably faded into the chorus of that song, which features
Hooky singing along quite loudly. What's really strange is that it
sounds like the broadcaster kept an open mic throughout this song,
as you can hear talking in parallel at several points.
Announcer talks, but there will be no denying being unable to make out
what Hooky has to say, as his ire seems directed to some obnoxious
individual attempting to take pictures in the pit area.
PH: "Just because you got a camera, you think you own the fucking place.
Go on, piss off!"
BS: "Okay..."
(some guitar twiddling)
PH: "That's better, innit, just me and you. Isn't that better, eh?"
_24___Hours_ follows.
Bernard's vocals pretty quiet in the mix.
BS: "Thank you!"
More announcer chatter.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "I'd like to dedicate this to you lot..."
[rest unintelligible due to that blasted announcer, but he says
something about "loving all of you"]
PH: "Oh, I'm gonna love you too."
BS: "Okay, this is Love Will Tear Us Apart, a song by Joy Division."
Hooky once again yells, "Here we go, Steve!"
More announcer explaining
Feedback squall/guitar stumming.
_Working___Overtime_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna try a new song out on you now. It's from our last
album, and it's called Working Overtime. And it goes like this...
One-two-three-four."
Hooky works overtime on delivering the chorus here. Best version of
this so far.
BS: "Thank you, it's nice to have a bit of anarchy in the set."
More announcer chatter.
Bernard continues.
BS: I don't mean as in the Sex Pistols, I mean as in the possibility of
fucking up. That's what life is all about."
_Transmission_
BS: "This is Transmission."
The annoucers (turns out there's two of them) seem very estatic about it.
Keyboard bit in between.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna chill things out a little bit now (one of the
announcers goes 'yeah' in response), with a song off...er...
I think it's off Low-life or one of those albums, it's called Your
Silent Face."
Bernard shouts at the end.
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Here we go, all right's, that's..." [again, obscured by the
announcers...]
BS: "...song off of our last album, Waiting For The Sirens Call.
Very moody."
Bernard yells for the backing vocals to be turned down between verses,
and puts emphasis on the word "Spain" for the benefit of the audience.
Yet more announcer chatter.
_Turn_
BS: "Okay, this is the guitartastic part of our set, and we're going to
play a very guitar-heavy song..."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, that's enough guitars. No more guitars. (Announcer: 'no mas
guitares') Now we're gonna play some dance tunes for you, starting with
Bizarre Love Triangle. Hope you enjoy it as much as we do."
_True___Faith_
Phil plays a bit of scales on the piano.
BS: "This is True Faith"
Hooky (and Phil) try something different here, and it actually sounds
really good.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
The announcers
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation. Or, as they say in New Zealand, Timp-tation"
(At end)
BS: "Thank you, cheers, that's it folks. Hope you enjoyed it as much as we
did. It won't be difficult. Thank you, good night."
Announcer goes on for quite a bit about Ian Curtis and Joy Division.
PH: "Haven't got much time, we really can't do the build-up of tension.
BS: "Guess what, we're doing an encore!"
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Okay, this is a song that we've not played in a long time. About
five days being that..."
Great, now we get a female announcer who also decides it's good to talk
over the intro."
This version is, again, surprisingly good. The band (sans Hooky of
course) may be going through the motions at this point, but the arrangement
is quite pleasing to the ears...but is cut off by the stupid broadcast,
argh!
Writeup based on ATR audence recording.
Intro is the Ennio Morricone's "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly."
_Crystal_
BS: "Hi, Barcelona. We're New Order, and it's great to be back here again
(Alex: "Is it? Fuck.) If it's good enough for Freddy Mercury, it's good
enough for us. This is Crystal."
BS: "Yeah! Woo. Cheers, thank you."
Shout out for "We All Stand".
BS: "We're knackered as well."
_Regret_
BS: [playing on all the cheers for the name of the group]
"Yes, we are New Order, very good spotting it. This is Regret."
(at end of song)
BS: "Yes, thank you. Muchas gracias."
_Ceremony_
PH: "[coughs] Ah ha ha ha ha ha. I want to dedicated this one to Chris York.
Thanks for looking after me, Yorkie. And, happy birthday, old bastard."
BS: "Yeah! Woo. Cheers, thanks a log."
Calls for "We All Stand" again. "Alex, We All Stand!".
_24___Hours_
BS: "Okay, this is 24 Hours. A song by Joy Division played by New Order."
Alex says something at 2:53..."They just started playing it", I think.
_Love___Vigilantes_
Guitar and melodica tuneups.
BS: "Okay, all right, all right, all right. This song starts with a melodica
obviously, I've got one I'm carrying now. And, it's one of those rare things
in life, it's a pro-war song. It's called Love Vigilantes."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Of couse, it's not a pro-war song, it's not a
pro-war song, I was only joking." [someone shouts for 'Alex'] "If you
can still joke abou those things in this terrible age that we live in."
_Working___Overtime_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna try a song that we've not played that often.
It's bit of a rocky one, it's called Working Overtime, and it goes
just...like...this."
More beg-Barney, take-the-piss cries for 'We All Stand'.
_Transmission_
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Lots more chants.
PH: "I'll have you (?) when it's not."
_Krafty_
BS: "This is Krafty"
BS: "Thank You."
_Your___Silent___Face_
Singing "Manchester la-la-la..."
BS: "Okay, this is You're Silent Face. We'll stop saying 'okay'. Okay?
This one's for Bobby."
Bernard comes in late into the second verse, causing a weird reverb effect
on his vocals.
People start chanting for Jarvo.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is the danced-up part of our set, and we're starting it
with Bizarre Love Triangle."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Will someone turn the iPod off, that's going on on the other stage.
Okay, this is True Faith."
Hooky comes up with a really good bass intro for this version.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Muchachas graciassass. [yes, he simulates echo!]
_Temptation_
Punters call for "Stephen" and "Sunrise, Sunrise, Barney, c'mon!".
BS: "Okay, this is er, one of our all time classic songs. I know there's
a host of them...[mutters: 'getting...'] Temptation.
BS: "Yes, thank you. Thank you."
More cries for "Stephen".
_Love___Will___Tear___Us__Part_
BS: "Okay, I'll just wait for Hooky to tune up. I'm afraid this is the last
one in the set. We've played for fucking ages, c'mon! We don't normally
play this long, but for Barcelona, we make special gift for you. This is
Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Hooky cries, "Here we go Barcelona!" at about the two minute mark.
And a "Here we go, Steve" from him at the three minute mark.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. You've been a fucking great audience. As I said,
thank you very much, you've been a great audience. I can see what Freddy Mercury
saw in Barcelona. Good night. Adios!"
Lots of chants from the UK contingent for "Nuorder"...
They're only off for a minute, as you can hear guitar at the 5:00 point.
Then the crowd in general starts doing a football chant...
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Thank you." [bass notes] We're gonna play one more...more song for you.
Okay, this is Perfect Kiss."
Hooky mutters something at 3:50...something about getting tossed out...
_Blue___Monday_
Segue from previous track.
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. We've had a great night, I hope you have as well.
Barcelona, you're fucking great. Good night."
FM broadcast (DIME seed) missing first four songs performed, with
Love Vigilantes being faded in on this particular capture.
Luckily, we have a complete audience recording to fill in the gaps.
Alan Wise handles the introduction here.
AW: "...Steve. Right, I see a few familiar faces. Do you know
that just across the sea, fifty years ago, four mop-headed lads from
Liverpool...was it?...decided to change the face of music. And here
they are, in Dublin, the Beatles. Sorry, New Order!"
BS: "Hope you're going to enjoy the set tonight, we've ridden in
especially for you. Let's start with a song called Cristal [pronounced
French-style]"
At the end, Hooky makes quite a strange pronouncement, even by his standards.
PH: "Now how you do you know that she was actually going to grant me a
big wish. You took my fairy away."
BS (speaking through Hooky): "Cheers, thank you."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is a little wrong...a little song that that went wrong in
the Eighties and it's called Regret."
Mic gets knocked between 1:25 - 1:30, with the stereo field shifting as
a result.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
A bit of hard riffing afterwards, whilst Bernard tunes up.
_Ceremony_
BS: "Okay, sorry about that, I was just tuning up. I'm very professional
these days. The next song we're gonna play was written in the last two weeks
of Ian Curtis' life, and er, it was actually written with the guys in
Joy Division, but we've always played it as New Order. This is Ceremony."
_Twenty__Four___Hours_
BS: "Okay, so good so far. Have to bear with me a little bit, I'm not
very well tonight, that's not why I'm jumping about as much as normal.
I need a bit of sympathy! [people groan] I feel terrible, honestly.
(The) things I have to go through."
First line is very low in the mix, and some of the other lines of the
first verse can barely be heard.
BS: "Thank you! I know you're filming it for TV, but can we, eh, kill
the lights a little bit. We're trying to get a bit of a vibe going up
here. Who gives a fuck about the TV?"
PH: "Just kill that light, maybe, that big one up there, mate. Thank you.
That's a lot better."
Chants after _Love___Vigilantes_.
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "You know, now a change the time there(?) on the song. Jason? Okay,
this is a song of our last album called, the album is called Waiting For
The Sirens' Call and the track is also called Waiting For The Siren's Call.
You might notice a recurring theme there somewhere."
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, we're really gonna rock you up now with a track called
Transmission."
BS: "Cheers, thanks.
PC: "Thanks a lot."
Then the sound of a guitar lead getting unplugged.
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay this is, uh, bringing it up a bit more up-to-date, this is a
track off our last album, whatever the fuck that was called, and it's
called Krafty. Just can't sell stuff, y'know. My record company want
me to, but I just can't put my heart into it. Buy it if you like it,
if you don't, fuck it up."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna chill out a little bit now with this one. Well,
a bit. And off the... that, we're gonna build it up again to a raucous
ending...of course, that's what we do...this is Your Silent Face."
Idiot announcers leave their mics open, so you can hear every bit of
clatter. At the end they comment, "not a dry eye in the house".
Some interesting 'orchestral' keyboard samples.
BS: "Thank you, Jerry. Right, that's all the rock shit over with. I
don't mean shit, you know, I mean, like, like like, they say in New York,
shit as in good, like bad, you know like we say it's bad? I mean it's
good you know, I should have said it's good, I'm embarrassing meself
now."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay this is Biz...bloody Bizarre Love Triangle, bloody Bizarre Love
Triangle."
Annoying voiceover..."the windows are shaking now".
And another one after the song, telling folks they have a sister broadcast...
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot. I know it's corny to say it, but is everyone
having a good time? If you're not, I'll give your money back personally.
I'll announce my name and address at the end of the show."
_True___Faith_
BS: "This is True Faith."
A couple of glitches during this song (broadcast version).
Announcer voiceover at end, talking through Bernard's pronouncement.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! You know what, we were gonna drop that one as
well. Maybe we'll keep it in the set."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is my favorite New Order song, it's called Temptation.
PH: "Okay, out goes the Sugababes, then..." [can't make out the rest]
Bernard laughs.
(afterwards)
BS: "I could have sworn that was it. Most bands, that's all that they
would give you, I tell you. But we like to think that we're a little bit
different."
PH: "Just a quick dedication before we go, I'd like to congratulate
Kelly Osborne and Matty on their marriage today, but don't tell her Mom
and Dad because they're gonna fucking kill her."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "This is Love Will Tear Us Apart, we want you to sing on the choruses,
please."
Lots of exhortations, including one for Kelly.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! I was gonna say 'Dublin' but i guess you're from
all over Ireland. You're a fucking gerat audience, and we're definitely
come back, might be twenty years, but we'll definitely come back. Thank
you!"
BS: "Cheers!"
Announcer: "Do you want me to fill? Okay, Bernard is wearing a grey
hoodie, and Hooky has been wearing black, playing his bass dangling
around his ankles with a pool cue. Stephen is looking very sweaty
now, his shirt is open to his navel. Someone's coming on with some
bits of sponge. Now, it's the magic sponge there. Okay, some sort
of argument here. Misunderstanding. Andy...okay, we've another
sponge now. And there goes the shirt, ok? Ah, Stephen's topless
now. Crowd are having none of this, they want them back on stage..."
PH: "See, Wes just said to me, then he said, "Fookin' 'ell, Hooky,
don't you know it's a quick turnaround. That's fuckin' rock n' roll,
innit, a quick turnaround? Yes!"
Stephen drum crash.
Announcer: "Ah, the cat's out of the bag."
BS: "We've got a slight problem, we can't find our guitarist.
Oh he's there! You blue bastard."
PH: "Ha ha ha ha, you ain't get that scarf caught in the scaffolding
then, did you, Phil? Ain't holding you back.
BS: "The problem is, he's only semi-pro. The rest of us turned
professional a long time ago."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a song for you now we've not played
very often live for a long time, eh, we used to play a lot live, but...
and it was called 'A Perfect Kiss'."
PH: "What's your friend called?"
Cuts off right at the start of the seque to _Blue___Monday_, go figure.
However, the audience recording is complete.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Hooky finishes off with the BM bass melody.
BS: "Thank you everyone, good night, God bless and be careful out there."
Fans call out for 'One More Tune' but are denied.
Shouts of 'New Order' and 'ooky!' greet the listener of this recording.
Intro is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More".
The group take the stage.
_Crystal_
BS: "Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Hullo. Hi. We're New Order.
I think's it's been round about eighteen years since we last played
in...er, whereever we are...Bournemouth. Hopefully we'll gonna make
up for that tonight by playing a top set up here. Okay, here we go.
Join in if you want."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
There's a guitar riff here that sounds familiar but I can't place.
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Okay, we're going to do a track off of our last album now, it's
called Who's Joe."
The live debut of this song.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Some more guitaring.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is a hoary old chestnut that's we're...that's fallen
down from the chestnut tree, it's called Regret."
BS: "Muchas gracias."
The crowd are heard chanting the group's name.
_Ceremony_
BS: "Thank you. Can anyone play guitar? Are you in are out(?).
PH: "You have to shout just one ten decibels louder. Don't have a
fucking heart attack. For you, this is 24 Hours."
Hooky may have either been making a sardonic joke or honestly misspoke.
BS: "It's a good song that, but it does sound a little bit like an
ice cream van in the middle, you know, the break?"
BS: "Okay."
PH: "You lot are going to have a fucking heart attack. It's like
an orgy of daft dancing. Fucking hell, I thought I was embarrassing,
you lot take the fucking cake."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is Waiting For The Sirens' Call."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you. That's one of our favorite songs, that one."
A familiar voice shouts for 'Age Of Consent'.
PH: "I wish I could hear what pearls of wisdom you were saying."
[chuckles] Stop fucking waving at me, you're like a mink."
_These___Days_
BS: "Okay, we're going to play a song for you now that we haven't played...
there's an even bigger gap between us playing this song than between us
playing here in Bournemouth. In fact, probably, possibly, although I
could be lying, the last time we played it was probably with Joy Division,
and it's called These Days."
In fact, the last time was at Derby on April 19th, 1980.
BS: "Thank you. Life was so simple in those days, and so were the songs."
Some guitar tuning.
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is Transmission."
_Krafty_
BS: "Thank you. Sorry about the feedback. Oh, how angry we were in those
days. Very angry. Don't know (what) about, but we were. But, now, we're
much more pleasant chipper chaps. And this is Krafty, a very optimistic
song."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Thank you. Jerry, can I have a little bit more
on my voice please, just a tad, top pole(?) please. Sarge, can I have
another drink as well...please, you don't get breathalyzed at gigs here,
do you?"
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "All right. Are you enjoying yourselves, so far? [cheers] Okay, we
are, but you got to realize that this our first gig in a long time, and we're
still warming up to that peak...the peak of the set. [keys] So after
Transmission, we need to chill a litle bit, so this is Your Silent Face."
lyric: "So why don't you..." Fans shout, "Piss off!" Bernard replies,
"That's right!"
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
A keyboard melody.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Cheers, Jerry. All right, that's gone through all the Joy Division
bit, and the new bit, and now what we're gonna play is some dance tunes
for (you). But there's a few bald heads out there, hope you don't mind
me saying so, we all got our own hair. So hope you're still up for a bit
of dancing, if you know what I mean. This is Bizarre Love Triangle."
(a few seconds into the intro)
PH: "Go ahead, Andy, c'mon lad."
BS: "Voila...voila..."
Hooky's bass is off kilter between the first and second verses (before
the first chorus).
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot. Get me a wheelchair."
_Temptation_
BS: "Right, I don't know about you, but I'm a little bit out of breath
after that. And you know you have to give as good as you get. So on
the next one, you're doing the fucking dancing, all right? Else, we'll
give you your money after the show [cymbal] Hang on a minute, I got
that wrong. No, we'll make you pay on your way out, that's all we
need. Twice. All right, this is Temptation."
(after)
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Fade out/in on the recording.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna...gonna keep it a bit on a dance. Let's face it,
we're all fucking past ours now, aren't we. Hey, Hooky. ...of our age."
PH says something I can't make out, not replying to Bernard, something like
"give me a minute, Joe."
BS: "We might have owned a club, but we're sure let(?) this club for you.
All right, all right, this is The Perfect Kiss."
Mic gets bumped at 1:34 and the recording becomes muffled for a period
of time afterwards, until about 3:14.
TPK segues into _Blue___Monday_.
Some Kylie samples in there too.
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much. Black power!"
And the main set ends, the punters finding that last bit very amusing.
(encore)
BS: "I don't know which hand signal to give...that, or..."
_Shadowplay_
BS: "This is probably why people used to call us miserable cunts, this
song. ...I'm older, I can understand it really. Yo."
(at end)
BS: "You sounded like you're fucking auditioning for Deep Purple then,
Phil."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Okay, this is Love Will Tear Us Apart. Hope you enjoy it as much
as we do."
PH: "See you in 25 years then."
BS: "Thank you Bournemouth. I'm very sorry we left you so long. There
must be a reason, but I can't think of it. Thank you, you've been a great
audience, cheers, thanks for having us, good night!"
Fans chant, "we want more"...but the band is done.
Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More" is the intro music here.
_Crystal_
BS: "Yo yo. Hello, Newcastle! Sorry it's been so long since
we last played here. But it's good to be back. Eh, hope you
enjoy this concert as much as we do, we're going to start the
set with a song called Crystal."
(at end)
_Regret_
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Wooh! Cheers, thank you very much. Okay,
er, we're gonna play an oldie but goldie, it's called Regret."
BS: "Okay, thank you".
_Ceremony_
PH: "Watch your ticker, you...fucking hell."
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
PH: "You are out, aren't ya? [laughs]."
Some guitar stumming/tuning here, as well as whistles and shoutouts.
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Okay, this a track off of our last album, which was called
Waiting For The Sirens' Call, this is a track called 'Who's Joe'."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thanks."
More tuning.
_These___Days_
BS: "Okay, that song is the second time we ever played that live...live.
So you have to bear with us. This next song, is a Joy Division song,
is called These Days, and we've only played this twice as well, so will
be special when we play it tonight for you."
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
_Transmission_
Fans shout out the band's name.
PH: "We know!"
BS: "Transmission. It got me 'round, this one."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
_Krafty_
BS: "Cheers. We might play a couple of Joy Division tracks tonight,
but we're going to play something up to date. This is Krafty. Cause
you can't live in the past, you know."
After the song finishes...
BS: "Yeah, thank you! Woo!"
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Hey, we're gonna chill it out a little bit now. Sort of, in a
different way. This is 'Waiting For The Sirens' call', the title t
rack off of our last album."
_Your___Silent___Face_
Whistles.
BS: "Anyway, that was a new one. We're not allowed that song. So we're
now going to play a song featuring a melodica. It's called 'Your Silent Face'."
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Okay. We've been through our rocky set...rocky bit...we've been through
our mellow bit, now we're gonna play for you dance tunes up here. So you all
hope you fucking dance up here in Newcastle. Have you ever made it to Glasgow,
they could dance...alright [can't make out this bit]...as good as it gets(?)."
BS: "Oi, oi, this is a new track, it's called Guilt Is A Useless Emotion."
Hooky's bassline mimics the heartbeat on the LP version.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Thank you. That was actually the first time we ever played that song
live. So we were a bit scared, you know, but seems to have gone down all
right...keeping it on the dance tip, this is _Bizarre___Love___Triangle_.
BS: "Woo! Whoah!"
BS: "Thank you, thanks very much, one of our favorite songs, that. Obviously
that bullshit or will come out anyway..." [can't quite make this part out]
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, folks, hang on, this is my all-time favorite New Order song , it's
called Temptation."
Lots of audience participation here.
BS: "Thank you very much, good to see you getting into it all, especially the
people in the, er, terrace or whatever it's called, the circle(?). Thank you!"
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "We gonna keep our dance vibe, this is The Perfect Kiss."
Segues into _Blue___Monday_
Hooky mutters something that has "That ruined...fucking...", can't make out.
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much! Goodnight. Thanks, you've been a
great audience, good night!"
The Order leave the stage for several minutes, but come back on for
a two-song encore.
_Shadowplay_
PH: "We preferred the old days when we didn't do 'em, fuckin' hell, life was
much simpler then."
BS: "Hallo Hallo Hallo Hallo. Okay, since eh, they shot...Joy...a
film about Joy Division this year, and we've actually seen bits of it,
and it's quite apt to play a couple Joy Division track, so we'll start
with Shadowplay."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Right, this is the last song we're gonna play, and it really is
the last one, and we want everyone to sing...to join in the chorus,
especially the people up there, because I've noticed they've not been
moving around as much as the people down here....and they played less
than you did over there...I can't hear this guitar, Damien.'
Hooky yells, "Take it away, Steve!" before the bridge.
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much! It's been fantastic to play here.
Hope it won't be so long next time. Thank you, good night!
Recording courtesy of Schoff.
The intro piece is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More" with
the band played before coming on throughout the 2006 UK dates.
_Crystal_
BS: "Yo. Hello. Jerry, turn the gerry(?) down a little bit,
please. Hi, we're New Order, obviously, and before we start, I
can't fail to mention how much I enjoyed Section 25 tonight.
It's been a long time since we played with those guys and I thought
they were fantastic. However, this is Crystal.
(only a few people cheer)
BS: "C'mon, you can do better than that!"
The louder cheers obscure Bernard's following comment, "I hear Germans
got flowers for Manchester." or something like that.
The last time NO and SXXV had played together was back at the Preston
Guildhall on October 22, 1985, well over 20 years prior.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
The chants start.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot!"
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, we're going to go straight to Regret now."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Just chill out a little bit at the front
please, we've only just begun. If you're killing each other now,
just wait until the end of the set."
More chants.
_Ceremony_
BS: "Okay, we're going to attempt to play Ceremony now. Before,
we played it...last few gigs, we're not sure where it is on the, er,
guitars. If we get it wrong, we'll just start again...you know,
punk style."
PH: "Old age, it's a fucker, innit. Hello, Twinny, you out there,
man? Salford!"
_Who's___Joe_
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot! And if you'll excuse me tonight, I'm feeling
a bit sorry for myself...I've got...I've got tonsilitis or something,
my singing's a bit worse than it normally is, which is pretty bad.
However, you seem like a good audience to me, and I'm sure you can
make up for any shortcomings by singing along on the chorus. This
is a track off our last album, it's called 'Who's Joe'."
_These___Days_
BS: "Cheers, thank you very myuch. I know we got these old classic
tunes, but you got to allow us one or two new ones. You know, you've
got to look, as well as looking back, even it doesn't really sell good.
However, after just saying that, we're going to play an old Joy
Division song called 'These Days'."
_Twenty___Four___Hours_
BS: "Thank you. Woo! Okay, after my little speech about playing new
stuff, we're gonna play another old one. This is 24 Hours."
BS: "Thanks very much, thank you."
More chanting. Bless.
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, back to the future now. This is Krafty."
BS: "Thank you, cheers!"
BS: "Thanks a lot. It's great to be hear in Blackpool. Obviously, we...
we all come down here in the summer for the holidays, it being just down
the road from Manchester. So next summer, look about the streets and you
may see one of New Order, in the amuse...bloody out in amusement arcades.
Honestly, I'm not taking the amusement out of you(?)."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens'___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is Waiting For The Sirens' Call."
BS: "Thank you, cheers. Let's not get too carried away guys, so leave
some...[can't make out] Calm down.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, um, next on my set list I have it written down you see, is a
track we call (you can have that) eh, KW1, which is short for Kraftwerk
One, which we thought it sounded a bit like Kraftwerk when we wrote it.
It's actually called Your Silent Face."
During the intro, Bernard comments, "It features the melodica."
Hooky ends it with bass playing.
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Okay (clears throat). Well, that's the comteplative part of the
set, and eh, what we're gonna do now is switch into dance mode, so we
want all the people in the back to really get into this, but we want
all the people in the front not to, to keep really still. Now, I'm only
joking. Eh, this is a song off our last song, and it's called Guilt Is
A Useless Emotion."
A little bit different with Hooky's opening bass riff, which doesn't seem
to fit the song. Maybe he was echoing the heartbeat that's present in
the recorded version (which also is present here at the end).
BS: "Okay, the next song is _Bizarre___Love___Triangle_."
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
Some Phil riffing
_Temptation_
BS: "You okay? Okay, so you really got to fucking into it now, cuz
this is our best song. It's called Temptation."
The chants start again...
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Okay? (clears throat) Great. (coughs) Can't think of anything to
say, really. Except that this is The Perfect Kiss."
Segues immediately into _Blue___Monday_.
Includes a bit of TPK as well as Kylie.
BS: "Cheers, thanks a lot. You don't want this microphone. Thanks a
lot, Blackpool. Sorry it's been so long. Goodnight!"
(encore)
_Turn_
PH: "Ha ha!"
BS: "You're lucky, we never used to do encores. How, how times have changed.
This is a track called Turn."
_Shadowplay_ follows.
BS: "Very macho that track, innit? Little bit of the bug side from me.
The next track is very beautiful, it's Love Will Tear Us Apart, it's our
last song tonight, so pr... with us."
And with that, _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_, in its current
bar-band singalong, makes its appearance. Plenty of c'mons to be
had.
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much. We better go out and start to
sell ...older. Good night, thanks a lot, see you again in like 20
years, bye bye."
Intro is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More".
BS: "All right, Glasgow."
BS: "Hello."
BS: "Just noticed this shirt, it looks like a bird shit on my shoulder.
Don't let it put you off."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Ok, this is True Faith."
Unusual for this to be the opening track.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Thanks a lot."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
PH: "You knew that was coming, didn't you? You knew!"
_Ceremony_
BS: "Thank you. Look how bright it is. It's like being in Boobs(?)."
Unusually, Hooky's vocals are louder than Bernard's during the choruses.
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Thank you! Okay new, we're gonna play a slightly new song now,
hope you can take it, hope we can take it, it's called Who's Joe."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much."
_These___Days_
BS: "Okay, the next track is called These Days."
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Yes, of course, a Joy Division song, These
Days. We've only played it about, mmm, five times really, which is
quite a lot.
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, the next song is Krafty."
BS: "Cheers, thank you.
Chants of the group's name and Hooky's (in that order).
A bit of tuning.
BS: "Okay, this is a track off our last album, the album is called
'Waiting For The Sirens' Call', and this track is my personal favorite
off it, it's called "Waiting For The Sirens Call". Not very imaginative,
I know. But perfect..."
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
More guitar tuning. And football chants.
_Your___Silent___Face_
PH: "Have we got a chiropractor in the 'ouse? Anybody want to come up
and do my fucking back. You don't look like a chriopractor to me. Can't
fucking move."
BS: "Muchas gracias."
_Crystal_
BS: "And now, Crystal."
An unusual midset position for this song.
BS: "Thank you very much, cheers. It not sound...cheers?...[something
I can't make out]
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Hello. Okay, eh. Thank you, Crystal's one of our favorites, and
we're gonna hop the set up a little bit with a few dance tunes. This is
a song off our last album which is called Guilt Is A Useless Emotion.
Which is true."
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_ follows.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Fuckin' 'ell, any more of that's gonna kill me. If I die on stage
guys, carry on without me."
_Temptation_
BS: "'k. Feed up with announcements of songs, so we'll just start it.
It's a bit corny, anyway.""
(...)
BS: "Thank you, cheers."
Fade out/in.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_ follows, which segues into _Blue___Monday_.
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much, Glasgow. Sorry, we're a bit knackered.
But thank you very much, cheers, good night!"
This concludes the main set.
BS: "I'm sorry about the delay, but we're coming back. There's been a
dreadful accident backstage. Peter got his foreskin caught in his zip."
OUCH. Bernard continues.
BS: "Very painful. You get the girls in the audience won't know unless
you've done it before."
_Transmission_
Hooky starts to play the intro to Shadowplay, but Bernard says, "This is
Transmission." Then Hooky briefly starts in on the Transmission intro.
BS: "What you...wait...what you want, Transmission, or Shadowplay.
Wait, wait a minute. Do you want Transmission? [loud cheers] Do you
want Shadowplay? [quieter cheers, a few no's] Don't look at me. It's
up to Hooky."
Hooky adds a bit more of the Shadowplay bassline.
PH: "You have to excuse me tonight, I've got Alex's back. You bastard."
ATR: "I see how you've learned to play your thing here."
lady mate: "Alex, what do you do to him?"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Eh, this is for you, Alex. It's all your fault."
Indeed. :)
BS: "Well, I can't say thank you any more, I've run out of thank yous.
We'll see you again tomorrow night, because I'm sure it's all the same
people. Goodnight, thank you."
Recording from 'Digital Mike'.
Brief break right before the Ennio Morricone "For A Few Dollars More"
backing music.
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello. Guess who we are. Last time I checked, we were New Order.
We're here to do our second night, in Glasgow. We hope you were as good
as the audience were last night. There's a bit of a competition going
on."
Some strange chants that sound like "beefcake", but is really "UK".
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
_Turn_
PH: "I just want to say a quick thank you to this man over here, Howard,
putting me back together again when me back was fucked. Old age is a
bastard, innit? Thanks, Howard."
BS: "Jerry, just turn the (?) down a little bit, please."
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
Fans chant the band's name.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
_Ceremony_
(at end)
BS: "'k you. Cheers! (Anything?) was wrong with that one."
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Okay, and those two classics, Regret and, er...Ceremony, we're
gonna bring you bang up to date with Who's Joe off of our last album."
BS: "'k you. Cheers!"
_These___Days_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a Joy Division song for you now. I'm sure
there's a few Joy Division fans here. It's called These Days and it sounds
very muffled(?)."
BS: "Muchas gracias. I say that because I'm on holiday in Spain tomorrow,
so I thought I'd try the lingo on you Glaswegians. I thought if you could
understand it, the fucking Spanish could. Was it mean?"
_Krafty_
(at end)
BS: "'k you, woo! It's a good one, even though it's new."
_Waiting___For___Sirens___Call_
Okay, this is (?) stay on our album, Waiting For The Sirens Call,
which is...the title track."
BS: "Thank you. It's one of my favorite songs. So is the next one,
funnily enough. This one features a synthesizer that you don't have
to plug in, apparently."
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Thank you, cheers. This is the part of our set where we stop being
introspective, and we all want to get into it a little bit more. This is
the part of our set where we all wanted to dance. We're not playing just
to come here for nothing. This is Guilt Is A Useless Emotion."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much. See what I mean? I need to get a bit of
my boots again on stage. Thank you very much. I will refrain from
using expletives."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, the next one we're gonna play for you, that was one of our most
recent dance track called Guilt Is A Useless Emotion. The next one
is Bizarre Love Triangle."
_Temptation_
BS: "Hey, you two, stop all that tomfoolery. We're a serious group.
Okay, are you enjoying it so far, Wooah, that's not very enthusiastic!
All right, sounds like we're gonna have to help you up a little bit,
who wants my sweaty towel? [The fans boo here.] Okay, we got a crowd
killer here, it's called Temptation."
BS: "Thank you! Wooo! I'm gonna stop doing that. Cheers, thank you."
Fade out/in.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Thank you very much. It is a pretty good song, isn't it. And I'm
quite a modest guy. Okay, still more to come...not much, but there is
some more. This is The Perfect Kiss."
Which segues into...
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Guess what this is?"
BS: "Thank you very much. Cheers!"
punter: "You can send a copy to Alex for 50 quid. He got picked up..."
Some other chatter here not worth reproducing. :)
_Shadowplay_
The band came back on to some strummed bass notes.
BS: "Oh. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, hello. We've only come back for
the lovely drink onstage. I'm only joking."
Bass notes to the song hover menacingly over the proceedings.
BS: "Okay, this is the oldest song in our repetroire, Shadowplay."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Thanks again, Howard, for making life worth living.
Allright, [can't hear a] fookin' [word you're sayin']."
BS: "Cheers, thank you, you've been a great audience. We appreciate you
as much as you appreciate us. Thank you, good night Glasgow!"
Thanks go to skyscraper for sharing his recording.
Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More" is the opening backing tape.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Hello. The band that needs no introduction. Guess who we are? Well tonight,
for you, we're Joy Division. Not the whole set, but certainly a few. This is
She's Lost Control."
_Shadowplay_
BS: "Cheers, muchas gracias. Jerry, turn down the voice a touch, turn the PA down
a touch, the PA."
The cymbals at the start are very loud in the mix.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
_These___Days_ follows.
PH: "You shake your mou...I want to dedicate this to you, Gary. Saved me
fuckin' life yet again, mate, thank you very much."
_Transmission_
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_ follows.
PH: "You ready, Phil? Good boy. [chuckles] Like your shirt by the way."
Atmosphere
BS: "This is Atmosphere."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, we're going to start to introduce a few New Order songs now.
[Can't make out next sentence except for the words 'Joy Division']. So
we're gonna bring it 'round to today with a song called Waiting For The
Sirens' Call."
BS: "Thank you."
_Ceremony_
BS: "Okay, this is Ceremony."
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Okay. We're gonna play an extra-long set for you tonight. That's right while
we're pacing ourselves at the start of this set, you know, Gonna find our mojos
later on. Whatever mojo is. Anyway... which brings me swiftly around to our next
song, which is 'Who's Joe'."
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, this is Crystal."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you! Cheers."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Thank you. We've concluded the Joy Division part, we've concluded the rock
part, and now we're gonna hopefully make you, the audience, dance. Because I've
got a sore leg and I can't. This is 'Guilt Is A Useless Emotion', isn't it? Is it,
is it, yeah?"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
BS: "Cheers, thank you! [coughs]"
_Temptation_
BS: "Fuckin' hell, where can we go from there? Oh yeah, a little number called
Temptation."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
A bit of a pause between numbers.
PH: "I wish I could hear you. [laughs] I really do. If you believe that, you believe
anything. Ready, Phil?"
The moaning woman sample makes a reappearance!
TPK segues right into _Blue___Monday_. The Kylie sample's handled a bit differently
than normal, as well as the outro synth. Good to hear some variation.
BS: "Cheers, thanks for all of us. Thank you!"
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "I'm sorry it's been so long, but we couldn't, em, couldn't decide what to play
for the encore. Primarily because we've run out of songs... Even though it's been a
long and tedious career. But we haven't run out of songs."
BS: "This is Love Vigilantes. It's a Cornwall(?) song."
BS: "'k you!"
_Turn_
BS: "Hi, this is Turn, boys. All right, don't bother with enthusiasm. Just because
it's a new one. It's a good song, so get into it."
Only a part of the song was recorded on the skyscraper version.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Thank you. I think we've got only one song left in the whole wide world,
yes, we have one, but we're going to play this one, it's called True Faith"
Missing from the skyscraper version.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, that's it folks! This bog(?)-pretty long set. Thank you for
coming out all the way to Wembley. It's fucking miles away, we didn't realize
it. Now I apologize to you personally, and if you bump into me on the way back,
I'll give you your money back. Otherwise, thank you, good night!"
Opening music is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More".
New Order take the stage to fans shouting their name.
_Crystal_
BS: "Audience, audience. Okay, this is Crystal."
_Turn_
BS: "Okay, this is a track off our last album. The album
is called 'Waiting For The Sirens' Call'. This is Turn.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
_Regret_
BS: "Audience, audience. This is Regret."
_Ceremony_
Bit of the riff before Bernard starts talking.
BS: "Okay, this is a song that we wrote in the very last days
of Joy Division. We wrote it two weeks before Ian died. It
should have been called 'Funeral' but it was called Ceremony,
excuse my dark humor."
PH: "This is for all."
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Okay, this is a track off of our last album, and it's called
'Who's Joe'."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Transmission_
PH: "Wot?"
BS: "Okay, that was a newie but a bluey."
Hooky says something I can't make out and laughs.
BS: "We're going to play an oldie but a goldie now."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you. That was Transmission for each and all of you."
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, bang up to the future now with Krafty."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
Guitar strums.
BS: "This is the title track of our last album, it's called Waiting
For The Sirens' Call, and it's actually about death...or [can't make
out the rest]."
Some interesting variations here.
lyrics: "To the door or through the door."
lyrics: "First to Wolverhampton and then to Spain..."
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Thank you. One of most favorite songs, that. But so is this."
(at the conclusion)
BS: "Tres thank you!"
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Okay, talk about talking twos, we've gone from Atmosphere to a dance
tune. Let's hope it works."
Has gravelly Hooky bass riff.
BS: "Thank you"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "You ready. We ready? Everyone ready? C'mon Phil! [something]"
Hooky puts together an original bass riff during this song.
(at the end)
BS: "This is Jerry, our sound guy. A big hand for him for the ..since this
is his last night tonight...[something] him on it.
PH: "Well, I don't know if you've won it or lost it there, Jerry. He's
going working for fucking Primal Scream."
BS: "Okay, give him a boo. Leave him."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
Brief cut out at 4:47.
BS: "Thank you. This is our last UK show actually. The first part to
showcase the mini-tour. And after this, we're going to go to a horrible
place called Brazil. Just to get away from the winter, you know this,
right? Well, it was either that or eh, a farm off of Scotland or Iceland,
so we drew lots out...[can't make out the rest]"
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Anyway, this is our song called The Perfect Kiss."
Which segues into _Blue___Monday_ which features string pads from TPK,
as well as Kylie's la-la-la's and set me freeee's.
BS: "Thank you, good night!"
About a five minute break between set and encore, with a couple of blokes
talking loudly, apparently to a female that they befriended, at least on
the recording I have.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "We've come back because we forgot to play two songs [something]."
Female punter says that she was in the gym. Oh-kay.
This one obviously features...guitar, and is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
BS: "Andy Liddle, make sure we can see the friggin' streams over here."
PH: "What's that all mean, anybody know?"
Female punter: "I can take your number if it's easier, actually."
PH: "No no, ah, there we go. What was it? What is it? Speak to me!"
Bernard says something.
PH: "You don't know fucking what."
The usual "c'mons" for the audience, as well as Hooky exhorting Steve.
Some guitar noodling between tracks.
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, there's one more song that we forgot to play tonight. It's True Faith.
We want you to sing on the choruses, even the people on the celphone there."
As well as more noodling during the intro.
Quite a good version, actually.
At about 5:18, Hooky says, "Over to you, Roy."
BS: "Cheers, thank you. And thanks for buying our records for all these
years, we do appreciate it. Good night!"
Somebody shouts for another encore.
BS: "Cheers."
Hooky ends it all with a couple of bars of Age Of Consent.
Ricardo had the following comments:
>Sam, thanks for putting this up. The Brasilia concert was in a
>gymnasium, which isn't the best in offering adequate acoustics, but it
>was a good gig anyway.
Recording courtesy of the renowned Alex.
Chants of the group's name.
Intro is the Ennio Morricone song used throughout the 2006 autumn dates.
_Crystal_
BS: "Buenos Nachos. We are New Order. We're New Order, it's great to
be here in Brasilia. It's great to be in Brazil. Sorry we left it so
long, but we got really, really fucked up last time, we're just recovering.
We're gonna start the set to night with a song called Crystal"
Somebody (see above) loudly yells, "Same old shite!"
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Muchas gracias!"
Somebody (also see above) yells, "We don't speak Spanish!" twice. I doubt
if Bernard really cares.
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, thank you very much. Hope you're enjoying this as
much as we are. This is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
Some stumming. Someone calls out for Love Vigilantes, guessing correctly
that would be the next song up.
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Okay this is a track, it's a very anti-war song, and it's called
Love Vigilantes."
BS: "'k you!"
Fans call for "Joy Division" and "Mr. Hooky".
_Ceremony_
BS: "Okay, this is a very old song of ours. It's called Ceremony."
(at end)
BS: "Muchas gracias!"
BS: (to sound techs) "...Shove(?) a delay in the voice, quite a lot."
Could you take the wire off the guitar as well."
_Whos___Joe_ follows.
BS: "Thank you."
There's a bit of electric guitar chordage.
_Transmission_
BS: "Okay, this is...even though it's an old song, it's called Transmission,
it's a Joy Division song."
BS: "'k you."
BS: "Dave, a bit more compressor on the voice, please."
_Krafty_
Okay we're gonna bring things bang up to date now. [clears throat] This is
a track off of our last album, it's called Krafty."
BS: "Thank you, turn the bass synth...bass sequencer down a bit please, it's
[something]..."
Punters yell out for SLC. Not this time. In fact, some enterprising soul
calls out for AoC. Not going to happen.
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is off the same album. In fact, this is my favorite song
off the album, it's called Waiting For The Sirens' Call. It's about the sea."
BS: "Thank you. Dave, can you put the compressor back where it was, and
I can only hear each snare drum...Steve...[can't make out rest]."
_Atmosphere_
Someone cries out for 'These Days'.
PH: "Well, this one's for you, Todd. For such a fucking short fuse, you're
got such a fucking big mouth, man. This one's for you. Really?
Are you ready, my... One two three four."
There's a weird ghostly effect at the start that's quite interesting.
At the end, folks prematurely start calling out for BLT. Not quite yet.
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "Right, let's give this one a go, shall we? This is a dance tune."
During the middle of the song, Bernard mic-checks, "One two".
_True___Faith_
BS: "Dave, try taking a bit of bottom end off of my voice, please.
Oh, no no, oh, it's True Faith, how strange."
People start yelling out for Dream Attack. Like that's gonna happen.
BS: "Okay, we'll if we're gonna give it away then, this is True Faith.
In a very strange position in the set."
Nice funky guitar riff at the start.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Thank you! Thank you. Er, this is Bizarre....Love Triangle."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay. This is Temptation."
More "Mr. Hooky"s. Fade out.
BS: "Thank you. It sounds all right now."
Fan calls out for SLC a few times. Nope, soory.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Are you all having a good time?"
People cheer the aggressive bass synth part.
TPK segues into _Blue___Monday_
BS: "Yes, thank you, good night!"
The band leave the stage.
At some point during the encore break everybody starts chanting,
"Love, Love will tear us apart again".
_Turn_
BS: "Thank you. Thank you. [mutters something, and then strums his
guitar].
PH: "No, tried it. Tried it."
Ricardo notes: "It was also me shouting "Whatever you fancy" at the end
of "Turn". People were calling out for "Dream Attack" and "Love Will Tear
Us Apart" and I was taking the piss out of them."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
More chants for LWTUA. And the band deliver it.
PH: "Okay."
(after song finishes)
BS: "Cheers, thank you very much, good evening!"
Somebody still calls out for Dream Attack.
Then Hooky finishes out the set with a beautiful coda on his bass,
with folks chanting "Peter Hook, Peter Hook" after he finishes. And
then the recording fades out.
Judged to be by far the worst of the 2006 So. American dates.
Some background, by rafernandes:
Ah, Belo Horizonte. Easily the worst gig of the South American tour.
New Order were the headliner of a festival organized by a local radio
station. The Minerao stadium (one of the biggest of the country, with
a capacity of 72,000 seats) was full of teenagers who went to the
event to see the other bands, a bunch of Brazilian Blink 182 wannabes.
New Order were even booed by the crowd when they were announced on the
PA system one hour before their performance. It was an announced tragedy.
At least half of the 40,000 people present left the stadium after
seeing O Rappa, a kind of Brazilian equivalent of Asian Dub
Foundation. There were sound problems from the very beginning until
the end, as you can notice by listening to Bernard's comments during
all the gig. The band soundchecked in the afternoon, but the whole
concert sounded like a soundcheck in front of thousands of people."
Again, we have Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More" playing
as the band come out on stage.
Somebody blows something like a horn along with the song.
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. And we finally made it to Belo Horizonte.
Don't ask me what took so long, it's a hard place to get to. This
is a song called Crystal."
Bernard comments "programmed drums, programmed drums" at about 4:39.
BS: "Thank you! obrigado!
BS: "Ah, Dave, it's not bad, but all clear(?) with the kit is the snare
drum. You need to get to the rest of the kit as well. You need to put
a little bit, just a little bit of top on my voice."
The taper can be heard to tell Bernard to shut up. Lest you suspect that the
comments to the roadie aren't actually 'real', but are just there to give
concertgoers the 'authentic' New Order experience, it seems the sound was
sub-par during the first part.
_Turn_
Bernard calls out "snare" at about 0:55.
BS: "Cheers, thank you. Okay, that's fine, just a snare down a little
touch."
The taper's associate says "Hey man, soundcheck sucks", with the taper
also agreeing, "Fucking, fucking soundcheck."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, we're going to go back to an album of ours, that wasn't
actually a very happy time for us, it was a bad one. But we got a
great song out of it, this is Regret."
BS: "Thank you, cheers!"
_Ceremony_ follows.
(at end)
BS: "Okay that's fine, just turn that fill down a little touch."
BS: "Okay, is everybody enjoying themselves? [folks generally give their
assent, but Bernard detects some lacklusterness in their response]
BS: "Yeah? Yeah?" [cheers]
BS: "No?" [boos]
BS: "Woo..." [woos]
Okay, we can't please everybody all the time, can we?"
_Whos___Joe_
BS: "Okay, we're going to play a song off our last album, and it's called
Who's Joe."
Afterwards...
BS: "'Q. Sorry about the rain, we're used to it from England. Uh, Dave,
just watch the top syns, watch the top syns. Yeah, on this number give
me a touch more guitar."
_Transmission_
PH: "[chuckles] Well, I dedicate this one to my son Jack who's watching
back in England. This one's for you, Jack."
The bass intro slows down and speeds up again.
PH: "Europe, mate?"
Some guitar...
PH: (while Bernard starts talking again): "Is that a get..."
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, we were going to play a song called These Days, but now we're not
everybody, because we played that instead. What we're gonna play next is a
song off our last album. In fact, it was a single, it did very well...not
everywhere in the world, really, apart from here, probably. And it's called
Krafty."
Seems to be a bit of an issue with the drum backing at the start...as you
can hear a string 'hit' (like what would get used on Blue Monday) that's
out of place here.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
A long pause, someone blows a horn...or is it a melodica?
punter: "Git in there, son. I've started Love Vigilantes..."
More soundchecking from the stage.
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is a track that's called 'Waiting For The Sirens' Call'."
BS: (at 0:36) "Bass synth"...indeed, you can't hear one at all.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Top line synths down."
BS: "'Q. Okay, the snare drums, the electronic snares."
_Guilt___Is___A___Useless___Emotion_
BS: "One two, one two." (continuing the theme of soundchecking)
BS: "Thank you. Okay, this mike sounds a little bit little. Can you...
well, just turn it up a bit, let's try it again."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_ follows.
BS: "Too much bass drum."
BS: "(0:25) A bit more snare drum, snare drum." You can hear fans
mocking him with 'Bass drum, bass drum'.
At 1:48, Bernard introduces Alexis...who sings on the second chorus,
sounding pretty dire, I'm sad to say. Alex says something in Portugese
between 3:25 and 3:30. Bernard replies, "Yes".
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, Alexis."
Alexis: "Thank you Bernard", followed by more Portugese.
BS: "Thank you, Alexis, again from Manitu."
Here's what rafernandes has to say about that:
"Things got even worse when Alexandre Maia, lead singer of the
Brazilian reggae band Manitu, joined New Order on stage to sing
"Bizarre Love Triangle", a song which has been covered by his band.
Besides being out of tune, he also asked the audience to spin their
t-shirts around the air. It was cringeworthy to say the least. I was
actually embarrassed to see that."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is another song by us called Temptation."
BS: (at 2:31) "Some...some bass on the bass drum".
BS: (at 2:49) "Turn the bass drum down!"
BS: (at 4:53) "I don't think I've ever met anyone like you
before. Heeeey!. I don't think I've ever met anyone like you
before. Sub bass."
BS: "Thank you! Cheers. Thank you. Seems we've got a lot of
sub-bass on the bass drum, on the bass drum..."
Faded out/in at this point.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Pretty good guitar work here.
Segues into _Blue___Monday_.
Kylie's "Set me free" sample can be heard at 5:21.
BS: "Cheers, thank you, good night!"
Fans chant "New Order" after the band finish the main set.
_True___Faith_
PH: "You're very...you want what? You have to speak up, I can't hear
you."
BS: "This is True Faith."
At 0:59 Bernard says "Piano, piano."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Thank you, this is the last song we're gonna play for you tonight,
this is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
BS: "Thank you so much for coming here. Goodnight, everyone. Thank you!"
PH: "Goodnight, [can't make out the rest]"
BS: "Cheers, everybody."
Intro music is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More".
BS: "Hello. We are New Order. And you are Sao Paolo. Let's have a
party!"
BS: "I don't mean about it, it's not about me anyway. Please welcome
my assistants, Mr. Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, and Phil Cunningham, the
sounds like: "Moswald Twister" [drum crash].
_Crystal_
BS: "Okay, we're going to start the proceedings tonight with a song called
Crystal."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Turn_
BS: "Cheers, thank you. This is a song off our last album, it's called
Turn."
BS: "Obrigado!"
_Regret_
A bit of guitar, with a person near the taper saying "Regret"...
Bernard than mutters something to one of his sound techs..."just a little
bit" is all I can make out.
The singer says "Backing track" at 1:35.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, that's got the sound's fucked(?), she's gone a little bit out
of tune or... Thank you. And thank you photographes, you've done a wonderful
job tonight. We do appreciate it. Without you, we'd be nothing. Thank you.
BS: "I think that's it then, three songs. Everyone's leaving. What's going on?
I'm sorry you can't stay longer, I really am. I prefer if you came at the end
of the set. You're gonna miss the best bit, you know."
_Ceremony_
Hooky's backing vocals are really loud in this.
BS: "Thank you."
_Hey___Joe_ follows.
BS: "Thank you!"
_Transmission_
BS: "Obrigato. I'll give a thousand dollars to whoever can count the
number of sheer thrills(?) in our songs..." [can't quite make this out]
_Krafty_ follows.
Fan cries out "Steve Morris."
BS: Could possibly be one of my...short film(?)...to go, Rick...always got
one of mine...."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, going to chill things out a little bit now, because you can't be
full on all the time in life, and we like to reflect that in our songs.
This is Waiting For The Sirens Call...a track on that one please."
BS: "Thank you. We're sorry to influence you on a B minor. But partially,
Phil's a little bit ill tonight. He's does not feel himself, really.
Normally, such an apple jack(?), but tonight, Phil's not feeling very well.
He's not well at all, really."
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "Okay, this is Your Silent Face."
(at end)
BS: "Muchas gracias. You know, I know how to speak Portugese here, just in
case you don't have ai... from the rest of the set...couple words I can't make
out] ...learn Portugese for the rest...I know I got it written down here...
[drum crash]"
BS: "You don't have a clue what I'm saying, don't you, but that's the way I
like it."
_True___Faith_
PH: "Yes, love."
BS: "This is True Faith."
BS: "'k you!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
PH: "Fuckin' hell, you're a pushover, you, aren't ya. Ths one's for Emily
and Gerald wherever they may be."
BS: "Woo! Thank you. Cheers. It's a good song, innit. Thank you. Thank
you Sao Paolo. It's great to be here again. I don't know if anyone's noticed,
but I think my microphone is feeding back. Has anyone noticed? It's a never
ending array of disappontments(?)." [or does he say 'these moments'?]
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
(at end)
BS: "Snare drum. Fat cymbal, eh."
Fade out.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Fade in.
'Someone' calls out for Age Of Consent.
BS: "Okay, is everyone having a good time? Good, that's all we're here
for. Even me. I want to dedicate this song to a girl we met tonight, she's
called Grace. [people 'ooh' for the obvious reason]"
Segues into Blue Monday.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: (2:47) "Feedback!"
BS: "Obri...[mutters] Obrigado, Sao Paolo. Thank you, Good night."
Break between main set and encore at this point.
BS: "You can see that white train to [sounds like: Nilo]..."
_Shes___Lost___Control_
BS: "Does anyone out there speak English? Everybody? Okay, we're going
to play a Joy Division song next, but we don't know which song to play.
Put your hand up if you want us to play Shadowplay. Put your hand up if
you want us to play She's Lost Control. [SLC wins the voting].
Bernard than says something about "wait for this...faster." at the start.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "All right, I'll tell you what's wrong with Phil now. I wouldn't do
that. This is Love Will Tear Us Apart [whatever he says after is obscured
by the crowd yelling]. We'd like to dedicate this song to our promoter,
Felipe Gonzales, who we've known for 20 years or more, it's his birthday
today, give him a round of applause. Let's see you, Felipe."
The usual exhortations of "C'mon" and "Everybody!" appear here.
Hooky yells, "C'mon Steve, show us!"
BS: "Thank you very much! I hope you've enjoyed it as much as we've enjoyed
it, you've been a fantastic audience. The best in the world. Good night.
Cheers, big ears."
Intro music is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More".
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello, Sao Paolo. We are New Order, obviously. And we're
gonna play our hearts out for you tonight. Hope you enjoy it as
much as we do. We're gonna start with Crystal."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
BS: "Thank you! Woo! You take the track down a bit, especialy the
[can't make out]."
_Ceremony_ follows.
BS: "Obrigado."
_Twenty___Four___Hours_ follows.
_These___Days_
BS: "Okay, does anyone like Joy Division here? Have you heard of
Joy Division here. Did we sell any records here, we don't know.
Well, this is a little spot in the set where we're...we're gonna
play Joy Division tunes. This is what we've not played very often
until recently, and it's called _These___Days_.
_Transmission_ follows.
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, that's it for that Joy Division stuff for now. We're going
to bring things bang up to date. This is Krafty."
BS: (at 0:15): "Bass sequencer."
BS: "Is everybody here having a good time? And we hope so, as we've
come all the way from England to give you one. [cymbal crash]. A good
time, that is. Sorry about this multi g...(?), which you don't
understand, anyway."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play another song, which is called Waiting For
The Sirens Call."
_Your___Silent___Face_
lyric: "So why don't you...", pausing for the crowd to yell 'Piss off!'
with him going, "That's right!"
BS: "Thank you! Woo."
Bernard strums, and then talks to his sound tech.
BS: "Turn this up a little bit, distorted...[something about 'mic
position'?]
_True___Faith_ follows.
lyric: "I don't care because I'm not happy / I don't care because you
don't anymore." (kinda mumbled through)
BS: "Hey!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Thank yoooouuu!"
Fans chant the band's name.
_Temptation_
BS: "Where could we possibly go after that one? It's obviously very
popular in South America. This is a little song called Temptation."
BS: "Thank you. Obrigado. Nice, obrigado...this is what is written
on the lyrics screen here. Is everybody having a good time?"
Fade out/in.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Segues into _Blue___Monday_
Ends with slow Hooky bassline and synths.
BS: "Thank you Sao Paolo. Good night. You've been a very good
audience. Good night!"
Encore break.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Okay. We are going to, uh...we are going to play a Joy Division
song for you or aren't we [something]...all right, don't...maybe we
should do something else then."
Someone cries for Atmosphere.
BS: "Atmosphere. Yeah, yeah... Atmosphere. Eye-an Curtis.
Eye-an Curtis."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers. Thank yoooouuuu!"
_Turn_
BS: "Thank you good night!"
More chants for the group. Apparently they went off and came back
on as there's a couple minutes of audience shouting, etc.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "We're gonna try to play one more song for you. We went off and we
realized we forgot to play it."
PH: "That's all you want for a reaction like this, it's worth waiting
17 years. God bless you all."
PH: (at 2:00) "Take it away, Steve!"
BS: "Thank you, Sao Paolo. You've been a fantastic audience. I hope
you've enjoyed it as much as we have. Good night. Obrigado!"
Intro features the Ennio Morricone backing used throughout the 2006 autumn
gigs, the taper here quite nicely provides it in full.
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello. We are New Order. We're in Rio. Which we love very much.
You're gonna enjoy the set as much as we are. This is Crystal."
(after)
BS: "Thank you! All right, thank you. Yeah. One two, one two, one two."
Some git keeps chanting 'New Order'.
_Regret_
BS: "Ok, this is Regret."
BS: "'k you. Jay, my vocals don't sound quite like it did at the soundcheck,
it sounds a bit more full, and a bit too much bottom end to it maybe."
_Ceremony_ follows.
BS: "Thank you! It's all right Dave, that machine's for the tom tom, really
loud. Okay...well maybe right...ok."
_These___Days_
BS: "Okay, we're going to play a Joy Division song for you now, and it's called
These Days."
BS: "Obrigado!" ('thank you' in Portugese)
_Transmission_
Both Bernard and Hooky have a go at the vocals near the end.
BS: "Thank you."
_Krafty_
(at end)
BS: "Woo! 'hak you. I think that worked so well because of the sheer
volume of the drums. At least for me anyway. [someone shouts "C'mon Barney
lad!"] Okay, we're gonna do a bit more laid track...laid back...track now,
I can't get my words out. But it's nice seeing someone here from Longsight
anyway. It's nice to come all the way to Rio in Brazil and see someone from
Longsight. Longsight is a place in Manchester. Erm, it's not like Rio, that's
the best I can say, but at least we're United Fans."
Ricardo notes that you can see that individual and his flag here:
http://rafernandes.multiply.com/photos/photo/19/34
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is Waiting For The Sirens Call."
Bernard changes the lyrics about catching a midnight train, first to _Rio_
and then to Spain.
BS: "Thank you. My drum machine(?) is a bit weird. Now I'm not saying it's
your fault, that's not the point. Just listen to it, and see if you can get
in one big tom...the snare drum."
_Your___Silent___Face_
Somebody claps throughout the first part of the song.
BS: "There goes that tom again, do you hear it? Play that tom again, mate.
Okay, apparently it's no one's fault, so...it's just Turn, is it not? Is it
Turn?"
_Turn_
BS: "It's a song called turn off our last album. Turn, won't ya?"
Song seems to abruptly come to an end.
A bit of piano, like for the intro
Fans chant the drummer's name.
BS: "Speech, they say. No, Steve. They're calling for you Steve, would you
like me? Okay..."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
Some girl starts screaming.
Odd noise at 4:32.
BS: "Thak you. 'k you Dave. Fingers crossed."
Hooky also mutters something off-mic at this point.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Thank you."
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
BS: "Obrigado!"
Fade out/in.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_ segues into _Blue___Monday_, and the Brazilians
go hog-wild.
Before the second verse, BS: "Turn the wedges off, turn 'em off!"
BS: "Thank you, good night! Cheers!"
(encore break) A few minutes while fans clap for the group to come back on.
The band come back on, with bass and guitar tuning bits.
_Shes___Lost___Control_
PH: "No, we're not doing that tonight, are we? Sorry. Can't win 'em all"
BS: "This is called He's Lost Control...She's Lost Control..."
(ouch)
_Love___Vigilantes_
Melodicas Gone Wild.
BS: "Thank you! Good night. Cheers, two drinks, no waiting."
Another encore break, with huge chants for the group.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "We never know when we'll play this in the set, but for real, we'll
make a special exception. What I mean by that is we don't play normally,
but normally we do play it. You'll have to excuse me if you don't
understand my Portuguese, it's not very good. This is Love Will Tear Us
Apart."
PH: "Thought you could start without me, you little bastard? Yeah, this
one's for you, the fucking lot of ya, yeah!"
Hooky yells "C'mon" really loudly. And then does it again, and does his
"All right, Steve!" bit. And then Bernard gets into it saying "C'mon
everybody, c'mon everyone, join in, lad" and then screeches!
BS: "Obrigado! Obrigado. Thank you very much Rio, you've been a
fantastic audience. we've really enjoyed playing for you. Hope you've
enjoyed it as much as we have. Good night, this is the last one!
[fans cheer for more] No, that's definitely the last one, good night!"
Recording taken from MP3 of FM broadcast as well as from various
audience sources.
On the FM version, the tracks have been edited to remove the announcer
chatter, which seems to excised most of Bernard's pre-song comments,
so as a result all the tracks feature fade-ins. Any between-song comments
are taken from the other versions.
Intro is Ennio Morricone's "For A Few Dollars More".
_Crystal_
BS: "Hello. We are New Order" (cheers)
BS: "We're glad we made it here at last. We tried several years ago
but couldn't just do it. But we're here tonight for you. We
hope you're gonna enjoy the set as much as you do. This is a song
called Crystal."
BS: "Thank you!"
_Regret_
A huge cacophony of "New Order" shouts.
BS: "Okay. Thank you. All of you. This is Regret."
(afterwards)
BS: "Thank you!"
_Ceremony_
More shouts.
BS: "Dave, it's all right, just take, em...hello? Just set Hooky down
a little bit somewhere, don't know where it's coming from."
BS: "Thank you!"
No, this isn't an echo, he's thanking the crowd after every track.
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Thank you. That was a vehemently anti-war song."
_Transmission_ follows.
PH: "This one's just about dancing."
BS: "Thank you, thank you. If people would just move back a bit, just move
back, because we don't want anybody up front to get hurt here. We don't want
anybody to get hurt, you all right at the front there? Move back, just ease
back a little bit, ease back a little bit."
_Krafty_
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "You're very kind. Ready, Rutch(?)"
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "'k you!"
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: "This is Your Silent Face".
_Turn_
BS: "You all enjoying yourself so far? C'mon!"
Bernard then mutters something I can't make out.
_True___Faith_
BS: "This is True Faith."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, watch out, it's going to be a little bit like boots up here.
This is Bizarre Love Triangle."
BS: "Thank you. Andy's(?) going out of fashion now."
_Temptation_
BS: "Thank you, we're gonna play a song for you now that's probably my favorite
New Order song, it's called Temptation."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_ segues into _Blue___Monday_, with Hooky riffing to
close out the former song. Barney whistles a bit through the TPK intro
as well.
BS: "Thank you, Buenos Aires, you've been a fantastic audience.
Thank you, good night. Cheers, big ears.(?)"
The main set ends, the encore tracks begin.
_Atmosphere_
BS: "Thank you, how could we resist? Ian [pronounced "eye-an" by Bernard]
Curtis lives. Well, it's funny you should mention that because this is one
of his songs, and our songs of course. It's called Atmosphere."
_Shadowplay_ follows.
Well, I think we were supposed to go off at the end of that one, but I don't
think we are. I think Peter wants to play another song for you. While
I string this guitar. Fucking simulates is a terrible thing that."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
PH: "Funny atmosphere tonight. Very odd, very odd indeed."
BS: "This is Love Will Tear Us Apart, and we all want you to sing
along with the chorus. I know it's a bit corny, but what the hell,
let's let our hair down."
The "c'mon" count: 7
PH: (as is standard) "Give it to 'em, Steve."
and near the end...
PH: "Here we go!"
(the conclusion)
BS: "Thank you! Long live punk, and long live Buenos Aires. Thank you,
you've been a fantastic audience. We really got to go now, good night!"
From Remco:
Sorry for the omissions : Brussels 17 oct 2011:
Elegia
(encore)
(preserving this to catch the excitement of seeing them back together after
5 years of inactivity)
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2011/ancienne-belgique-brussels-belgium-43d053f3.html
has the correct version.
Crystal
Writeup
_Elegia_
BS: "Hello. How are you doing? I hope you enjoy this as much as we're going to, because
we are going to fucking enjoying it, I tell you. Eventually. OK? Just chill out for a
little bit, just a little bit, and let's have some patience, please."
Not played since about 1987, this turns out to be an abbreviated version that segues right
into _Crystal_.
_Regret_
BS: "All right. It's been a long time coming, but let's hope that it's going to be worth it.
(To band mates) "OK?"
Stephen is playing with glasses on! Gillian looks ageless. Tom Chapman plays the basslines
no worse than you-know-who.
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
_Ceremony_
BS: "There's slightly more where that came from. Can I say it's great to be back in Brussels
again? It's been a very long time, but we find that most places we play it's a long time since
we've played there before, because we don't play live that often. Anyway, we're here for
you tonight, hope you enjoy it. This is Ceremony."
Bernard's guitar playing during the bridge is a bit suspect. What else is new?
BS: "'Q".
BS: "Morrissey? Did somebody shout Morrissey? Well actually, I think that our bass
player, with his new hair style, looks quite like Morrissey, or Elvis maybe. And Phil,
our guitarist looks quite a lot like Jerry Lee Lewis with that shirt on. Not to forget
the master of the vibe, chairmain of the vibe, Mr. Stephen Morris [drum crash]. And
welcome, big welcome back to New Order, Gillian...Morris. I almost said Gilbert."
_Age__Of___Consent_
BS: "OK, bear with us with this one, we've not played this for a very long time, and we've
not rehearsed it at all, I promise you."
BS: "'Q".
_Love___Vigilantes_ follows.
BS: "Cheers, thank you."
_Krafty_
BS: "1963, I'll tell you now, we'll never ever ever ever play that song, not as long as I'm
in the band. No way. One for the ladies, that one, and we don't care about the ladies at
our age, well Phil is, and Tom is over there. Still got an eye for the phillies myself.
Sorry, Tom is very fussy about the tuning on his bass."
The enthusiam down front for this number is quite simply astounding. I'm being sarcastic,
nobody's even moving.
BS: (at end) "Thank you!"
Then a strange pronouncement. Maybe his autocue crashed?
BS: "Windows XP, eh?"
BS: "Sez wot?"
_1963_
Of course, Bernard was taking the piss above about not playing this, it's the very next song!
BS: "Contrary to what I said before, this is 1963."
BS: (at end) "Thank you. Proper singing on that one, no shouting, proper singing...I don't
need that one...[name] (waves off guitar roadie)..."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "We've got plenty more for you yet, don't worry."
Bernard ends up on his bloody knees. Madonna he's not.
BS: "Cheers!"
BS: "Are you enjoying it so far? [cheers of assent] Well that's the only thing that matters
really, at least tonight."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Okay, this is erm, let's see if you can guess what it is, because it might take you a
little while to get hip to the groove."
A different remix version, it sounds like...it hearkens back to the Morning Sun remix, which
is a good thing...at least for the first minute, as then we get the bog-standard version.
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
Bernard than says points down front and points to a girl that had been getting crushed against
the front, it seems.
BS: "...is the little girl ok, is she all right? Gillian(?), the little girl down in the front.
You can lift her over there if you want. Some security. Please lift this girl over here.
Can she play bass?" [Stephen drum crash]
BS: "All right all right, it's only a fucking joke. I didn't mean it that way. Why, I'm a twat
after all. Jerry..."
_586_
BS: "All right, I got to be in tune you know, professional these days. Okay this is a song we've
not played in a long time, so please bear with us."
Another one that hasn't been played live since about 1987.
Evil-sounding 5-8-6-6-6... intro. Phil's guitar actually greatly benefits the song, and is easily
the best reworking of the bunch.
BS: "'k you!"
Then a quite funny bit.
BS: "That is this combination number of my suitcase, so if anyone finds it....you know. And the
PIN number of my credit card as well. And the number on my burglar alarm at home. So...just
forget it. Do you think I would be that stupid? [People yell out 'yes'!] All right, I'll
change it then."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Okay...go!"
Has the original samples at the end. Gets a very enthusiastic response from the crowd.
_Temptation_
BS: "Right, we're nearly out of bullets now, but we're going to finish with a classic song and
a slightly, kind of freshened up version of it. This is Temptation."
Reworked with a different-sounding intro (reminiscent of Lou Reed's "Street Hassle") that gives
this song a bit of new life. Good on 'em!
BS: "Thank you! That's it. Cheers, thanks very much!"
(encore)
_Blue___Monday_
I take what I said back. Tom Chapman's bass on here is painful to listen to.
Bernard does a 'looking at his watch' bit after he sings, "Now I stand here waiting". I understand
how you feel, mate! And near the end, he comes over to Gillian's keyboard and plays it...
BS: "Thank you!"
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Turn it up a bit, Jerry. Okay, this is...are we allowed to play Joy Division songs tonight?
If you give us your permission...all right, we'll play one."
He caws out "C'mon!" a couple of times.
BS: "Cheers! Thanks very much. That was fucking fantastic, we loved it, and we love you. Thank
you, goodnight!"
Reported as the same setlist as Paris:
Elegia >
Taper who captured the entire set included the audio for the Michael Shamberg
bit as well as a female French compere who introduced the group in French,
and then spoke in English.
French lady: "Hi everyone. Where are all the English tonight. Yi! Nice.
So as you know, we are all here to support Michael Shamberg, and after this
show there will be an aftershow, at the [name]. It's a club. The info is all
over here. You can ask anyone. So we hope you all come and support the
cause. And some great DJ's are playing tonight...with New Order, Stephan
is going to DJ tonight. And you can all see the exhibition at Gallery
Ivana de Garbardines on the sixth, so you all come and support. Have a
great show. Bye guys!"
_Elegia_
BS: "How you doing? We're going to [?] here tonight, but we're going to start
with a slow song...and obviously we would like to dedicate the whole set to
our dear friend Michael Shamberg who isn't very well...let's have a round of
applause(?) please, cause he's watching this on TV in America.
Segues right into _Crystal_
BS: "Thank you!"
_Regret_
BS: "You all right! It is hot. But it's not as hot down there as it is up
here, I tell you...it's frigging boiling. But it's nothing I regret."
BS: "'Q".
BS: "Just...with the lights..[can't quite make out what he's saying]"
_Ceremony_ follows.
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Okay. [something]. All right, here we go."
During the 'I lost you' bit..."Back up a little bit...back up!". I guess it was
getting a bit crazy up front with this one.
BS: "Cheers, thank you! There's a bunch of people getting squashed at the front
there."
_Love___Vigilantes_
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you! Anybody got towels up here, it's [?] hot up here. Towels.
I expect some to be there[?]"
_Krafty_
BS: "Is everybody enjoying themselves? All right, [hope there's?] more were that came
from. Okay, start the drum machine."
(at end)
BS: "Yo!"
_1963_
BS: "Whose idea was it to go out last night? It was mine actually.
Somebody says 'Tin Tin'.
BS: "Actually it was Tin Tin's, our DJ, but he can't...just can't help himself...turn
the lights down please...Okay, here we go."
BS: "'k you!"
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Hair of the dog, hair of the dog....why do you have to ask us that, what kind of
dog is it? Okay, that's obviously the slow ballady one in the set. and from here onwards
we're going to pump up the beats. [cheers] Unfortunately, for me. All right, here we
go."
Last lines are 'I'm waiting for that final moment, where you sing the words...'
BS: "Woo!"
_True___Faith_
BS: "We got one that's got guitar in it. In your own good time, Steve, when you're
ready..."
BS: "Cheers! Thank you!"
_586_
BS: "I hear you French people like to dance, is that true? Okay, we're
gonna test you for the next few songs. You're from Belgium. Well, I saw
you lot dancing last night. Okay, when you're ready, Adolf."
Brilliant "5-8-6-6-6-6-6-6...." intro.
This features lots of Bernard gestures, good for those hearing-impaired
I guess. Actually, this song is the most impressinve reworking I've heard
yet, and actually benefits from Phil's guitar work.
BS: "Muchas gracias."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "We're having a Windows XP moment again. We all refuse the charge."
(at end)
BS: "Cheers, thank you!"
Chats of "New Order".
_Temptation_
BS: "Okay, this is our last song. [groans] We gotta finish somewhere! We're
getting on a bit, y'know, we can't go on as well. We love you as well, we really
do."
'Street Hassle' opening again.
BS: "Thank youuuu!!!"
_Blue___Monday_
No introduction, the band just play it.
BS: "She's had enough! Already, it's only the second gig, and she's had enough.
Think it must be me. I have that effect on other musicians."
(referring to Gillian, presumably)
_Love___Will___Tear__Apart_
BS: "That sounds shit. Okay, that sounds a bit better, doesn't it? Okay, [?]
boys and girls, let's get started."
(at end)
BS: "Thank youuu!! Who would have thought that such a sad song would one day have
been so joyous. Thank you, you've been a great audience, we... fucking loved it.
Good night!"
Reported as the same setlist as Brussels and Paris:
Elegia >
_Regret_
BS: "Cheers, muchas gracias. At least we're New Order, I'm sure you know
already. It's fantastic to be in Buenos Aires again. We had such a great
time when we were here last time. It's a great city, it's a great country,
thank you."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
_Ceremony_
BS: "...the danger of being onstage, that's highly unprofessional, you know.
We have been criticized for being unprofessional. Okay, Voltaire(?)"
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Anyone got a corkscrew?"
Someone calls out, "Wankers!"
BS: "Wankers, did someone say wankers then? Do you know...do you know what
that means in English? He must be watching through his hotel bedroom window."
[a quite funny reference to their dear departed bassist]
Bernard then opens up the bottle he wanted the corkscrew for.
BS: "It's mineral water...it's just...[bit in Spanish?]
Lots of cheering.
BS: "We don't know what it means, but we like it."
_1963_
BS: The problem with this mineral water is that it evaporates so quickly.
Er, it's the closest thing...
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "If you ask me a question one more time, I'll answer it for you, but we
will be here all night. "Are you having a good time"? That's the only question
I have to ask. We're only half the equation up here, the audience are the
other half, so you are as important as us, so we're going to start the
section of the set now which is pretty dancey, so we want you all to get
dancey...ok, ready?"
_True___Faith_
BS: "We're going to Brazil tomorrow, I just hope it's not this cold in Brazil,
is it this hot?" Bernard then mutters something.
_Temptation_
BS: I'm afraid we've reached the state of proceedings where this is the last
song. We'll be back in another five years, what's the problem? Okay, here we
go."
(at end)
BS: "Muchas gracias. Por favor, from Manchester, England. Thank you, you've
been a fucking fantastic audience. Thank you very much, Buenos Aires."
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Thank you. Think about breaking out our 12-string guitar, don't know if
you have thought about it, but we only have five fingers.
[Bit of a false start]
BS: "Okay, all right, here we go."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, you've been a fantastic audience ...[?]... Buenos Aires,
thank you. Cheers, thank you!"
Source courtesy of Whiskybob (DIME).
pre-gig intro music is A Man Called Gerald's 'Voodoo Ray'.
_Elegia_ starts out without any introduction, and segues into Crystal.
BS: "Cheers, muchas gracias."
_Regret_
BS: "Okay, go for it Steve."
(at the conclusion)
BS: "Thank you. We've just been on tour in South America, and as you can
imagine, it was really awful over there. Boiling hot, sunshine, cocktails
being poured down our throats all the time. So, we're so happy to be back
here in London, we're going to play a very special set for you here tonight,
because you're WORTH IT!"
_Ceremony_
BS: "I don't know what's special about it though. I'll make something up
at the end [Steve cymbal crash]. Start the drum machine, Steve."
Bernard screams the chorus a bit.
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Okay?"
_Love___Vigilantes_
BS: "Sometimes a big wall is a big waste of time. Occasionally, it comes
in handy. As is tuning your guitar. We're punks you know, Phil, we don't
fuck about tuning up."
(off mic) "Right right right right"
BS: "Ok".
(at end)
BS: "Woo! I wrote that song about Vietnam, but it was a long time since
I was there, not many people know that I was over there."
Someone calls out for 'World In Motion'. Haha.
_Krafty_
BS: "Okay, light a match."
BS: "All right, you fucking animal(?) Stephen Morris! A first time for
everything."
_1963_
BS: "Chill out a bit, we're going to play a very sensitive song now, for
those of you who are sensitive in the audience. Do we have any sensitive
people in the audience? Currently everyone. This is a beautiful sensitive
song, so bear with us, and we'll play the rough stuff afterwards."
The song concludes, and Bernard gets into a long speaking bit.
BS: "Thank you. Are you enjoying yourselves so far? Is there a big
welcome in the South for Manchester. Well, it's only me from Manchester,
he's from a place called Macclesfield [drum crash] which is not the
nicest place in the world. Actually, I'm from a place called Salford,
which is eh...Macclesfield has a distinction [drum crash] for being
voted the most uncultured place on the planet, and Salford has the
distinction for being voted the most violent place on the planet
[more Steve drums] so it produced us. All right, not very funny,
but interesting. Er, Di, we're getting a bit of ringing up here,
don't know if it's from Phil's wedges, you know what it's like, these
fucking rock guitarists, everything's got to be twice as loud as
everything else.
"Di", of course, is Diane Barton, who at this stage was handling the
mixing desk.
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, ... the start of [this]?"
Ends in a woo.
TC: "Thank you."
_True___Faith_ follows.
lyric: "We are afraid of what is real..." instead of "they're afraid of
what they see" or "they're taking drugs with me."
BS: "Thank you."
_586_
BS: "All right, it's not bloody Level 42, you know. Ready?
[Bernard then says a few words I can't make out]
BS: "This is for Stuart!"
Somebody near the taper is practically ventilating, exclaiming, "Fookin'
hell...what song was that, what song was that, they've never played that...
Jesus Christ...fookin' hell, oh my God."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
BS: "Di, I can't have people whistling, I got a little bit of feedback on
the PA. The audience are deliberately trying to confuse me. Can any of you
whistle?"
[People go ahead and whistle]
BS: "So it sounds like feedback. Bastards! Sort it out, love."
_Temptation_
BS: "Just give us a second to tune up, will you? Now don't all shout at once,
because we can't understand what you're saying up here. One at a time, please.
How about you over there first? 'Fuck off, you Mancunian cunt!' Right.
All right, if it's going to be like that, we'll just get right on with it...
right, Steve. Start the engines."
(at end)
BS: "Thank youuuu!"
Encore break follows.
Alan Wise takes the stage.
punter: "You fat bastard!"
AW: "Bad Lieutenant, what a band. What a band Bad Lieutenant are. But not as
good as the Beatles and the Stones, of course, or Max Bygraves. But they're
pretty good, not as good as Max Bygraves, who I like, or Trotsky, who used to
play this hall. You know Trotsky, the revolutionary? He used to play this
hall. Look, I'm going to get the band back for you a bit...but...I'm a bit
riled up, they've not been paying me very well, which is why some people have
left. They've not been paying me, so if everyone can give a pound to the
doorman on the way out, that's thirty thousand pounds I'll get, and if you
can just do that, you'll get the group to come play again for about twenty
minutes. Is there a deal? [cries of both 'Yes' and 'No'] Is there a deal
where you'll give a pound to the doorman for Alan? And that way the band can
play a bit more. And they're just in the khazi at the moment, in a Napoleon
trap. And I think a couple of them have fixed it up. And one's snorting
something. And I don't know what Bad Lieutenant are doing, but they're all
getting ready again. So, I want you to start a rhythmic chant, shouting the
name that you so admire that I've forgotten. What's the name of the band?
[indistinct shouts] Would you like them back? Well, here they are for you,
New Order!"
BS: "You said five minutes."
_Blue___Monday_ follows.
BS: "Thank you! Hope you've had as great a time as we have, and that
you're going to have a fantastic Christmas and New Year and all that shit,
and the shopping and all that shit, and the snow and the rain. This is
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_."
Which concludes the set, "c'mon"'s and all.
BS: "Thank yooouuuu! We'll be back. Even without Freddy Mercury."
taper: "Too many 'come on's. Four."
I only counted three, but I have to admit blanking out a bit after that.
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_Crystal_
(at end)
BS: "Muchas gracias. Cheers. It's fantastic to be back after all those years.
Thanks for being gracious enough to have us back, we do appreciate it."
_Regret_
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
BS: (in a quiet voice) "You'll just have to get another drink at the bar."
_Ceremony_
BS: "Are you here to enjoy yourself? So are we. Let's all party together."
(at end)
BS: "Feedback, feedback, feedback. Sorry, we're very professional these days,
we're having to tune up."
_Age___Of___Consent_ follows.
BS: "'k you."
Loud chants of "Manchester, la la la."
BS: "Are you enjoying yourselves so far? Well, that's what we're all here for.
_Love___Vigilantes_ follows.
_Here___To___Stay_
BS: Cheers, thank you. We're gonna play a track now that we wrote with the
Chemical Brothers. Yeah, we don't play it much, so if we get it wrong, bear
with us."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you. That's for my son James, whose birthday it is tomorrow.
IN fact, this song is about my son. Or sonS, I've got three of them.
That I know of. Only a joke."
BS: "Okay, well we're gonna chill it out just a little bit now, just a little
bit, because, you know, we're getting a bit old these days and I've..[mumble]...
it's hard...Phil's in a group Marion as well, does anyone know a group Marion?
Famous for having a member in New Order. But we don't hold it against him,
do we Phil? No, fantastic group, actually."
_Waiting___For___The___Sirens___Call_
BS: "Okay, this is called...I'll tell you what it's called..."
_Bizarre___Love___Triangle_
BS: "Okay, down a little bit, Jerry."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
_True___Faith_
BS: "Thank you very much. Woo. It's a bit hot up here, I'm sure it's a lot hotter
up here than it is down there. (said quietly) [name]...If you're having a good time
than you'll stop telling them..."
Looks like this may have been 30 JUL 80, as the 'Beach Club' shows were
every Wednesday night, and 29 JUL 80 would have been Tuesday. Plus, the
show markbursa mentions is listed for the 30th, see the following link:
http://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/archive/showartefact.php?aid=7775&fid=11
From: markbursa
<< I remember reading (was it in Mark Johnson's book?) that at
New Order's debut gig, Bernard introduced themselves with: "We're
the only surviving members of Crawling Chaos". >>
Johnson's book nearly gets the quote right.
NO (who weren't called New Order at the time) played as late replacements for
the Names, who were billed as support (ACR were headlining).
Barney's quote, as I recall (from a range of two feet and 23 years!)
was:
"The Names couldn't make it, so we're playing instead. We're the last
surviving members of Crawling Chaos."
The gig was a benefit for Printed Noise fanzine, which was run by a band
called Action Holidays, fronted by Andrew Wilson, later of the Passage.
Action Holidays played after New Order.
Mark
From: markbursa
Jan,
<< I think, upon reading your version of the quote, that Mark Johnson did get
it right. My recollection was incomplete and slightly wrong. >>
Johnson's quote in full refers to "our mates couldn't make it" when what
SBS said was "The Names couldn't make it". Johnson lifted the inaccurate quote
from one of the very few reviews of the gig (from, IIRC, New Music News,
the short-lived paper put out by NME staffers during an IPC strike).
<< So, you were there that night... wow, that must have been something
special. Did you know the band were going to be on? How was the crowd's
reaction? Care to share any thoughts/impressions? >>
Unless you were well plugged in to Factory, you'd have had no idea that
NO (or Joy Division!) were going to play. They weren't billed. I'd recently
got hold of The Graveyard & the Ballroom and fell in love with it, and ACR
had recently played the Factory all-dayer at Blackpool Stanley Park (my
home town). So I decided to go and see them again.
The Beach Club was in a small two-floor club called Oozits in Manchester,
round the back of the Arndale Centre. It took a bit of finding, and as I
didn't know where it was, I got there early. Good move, as it turned out.
The Beach Club format was bands upstairs, and films downstairs. The film
showing that night was Fritz Lang's Metropolis, which fitted the ambience
well. However rather thandiving in to see the film, I thought I'd check out
the venue area - I could hear a band upstairs - turned out to be the end
of ACR's soundcheck.
And this is where my brain started working overtime. At one side of the
stage, there was Donald Johnson at his small, funky drum kit. On the other
side of the stage (such that it was - I don't think there actually was a
stage at all, just an area of floor) sat a much larger, black kiut. All
around were flight cases stencilled with the words JOY DIVISION. Sitting
casually on an amp, there's Bernard. I knew from talking to Tony Wilson
at the Blackpool event that JD were continuing. You don't suppose....
To this day I've never seen Metropolis all the way through. I just got
myself a beer, and waited by the stage.
About half an hour later, with the club half full, we were off. The
stage is small enough to mask the big hole in the middle of the band -
There goes the famous Crawling Chaos quote, and we're off on a 20-minute
trip through a new set of Unknown Pleasures...
Nerves were masked by decibels - vocals scarcely audible. I guess they
played Dreams Never End - Hooky singing over his shoulder, back to the
crowd throughout. Certainly they played Homage, the first of the new songs
to be discarded. And I guess they played Truth, with Barney's Melodica and
Steve at the drums, with slightly wayward reel-to-reel rather than a drum
machine. Five songs at most (Ceremony? Mesh? Guess so - as there was
something that sounded a lot like Warsaw)
By the end of the set, the room is heaving as people abandon the cinema
- they were still coming in as NO departed the stage. "Youve just missed
Joy Division.."
Rough and ready, and more than a little bit angry. But you knew it'd be
OK. Six weeks later, they played Blackpool, with a great deal more poise.
Heck, you could even hear the vocals...
ACR, by the way, were sublime. First time I'd heard Shack Up.
BTW, I'm still a bit pissed off that the Names didn't show ... never did
get to see them ;-)
Mark
And from TJ:
This is the set I was told years ago, no idea how reliable or accurate
it is though. All instrumental apparently.
Dreams Never End
I don't even know if the source of this info was at the show, so I
wouldn't hold out too much on it to be honest.
In support of Skafish.
An article from a fanzine review of the show recently resurfaced.
Setlist from there was recorded as:
Dreams Never End
There was one other track, which was probably Ceremony.
Gig was about 32 minutes long. According to "Erik", this was taped
by Larry Cassidy of Section 25 fame.
_Dreams___Never___End_
BS: "Thank you for coming here tonight....the guitar. Through the foldback.
And stop the Joy Division chanting."
While he's speaking, Stephen Morris talks!!
_Truth_
SM: "Terry(?)...a bit more vocals on my side."
TM: "Okay."
There is so much echo on his vocals that I'm amazed he even bothered
to even sing.
lyrics: "Oh, fucking strange day...such a stupid day."
_Mesh_
PH: "A bit more light."
_Homage_
Bernard yells for "lights" during the middle of this.
_Sister___Ray_
Bernard plucks the guitar twice to get the attention of the crowd.
BS: "I like to explain this for the benefit of everyone who's paid
to come here...the guitar...the bass amp has packed it, so...
me and the drummer are going to improvise while he...he fixes our bass
settings...[few more words]."
Somebody else is talking at the same time, on-mic.
[Mark Johnson has "...to come in...The bass amp's packed in, so...
me and the drummer are going to improvise--right, Steve?"]
They play an short instrumental version of the Velvets tune.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
BS: "Walk upright(?), cuz we got the bass amp back."
_Ceremony_
TM(?): "You ready, boys?"
PH: "Yeah."
BS: "That's why this one will knock the spots off of ya. This is
our new single."
Hooky plays the intro notes on the wrong string!
PH: "Sorry about that."
A couple of volume drops/cutouts before the second verse of the song.
PH: (at 0:45) "Plug it down to the foldback."
Another fine Morris vocal.
From WIM forum:
setlist: "ialp - c&w - ? - procession - truth - mesh - ? dne - ceremony"
xx: "...featuring the only (known) performance of 'in a lonely place'
using a drum machine (and presumably steve on synth)"
Some skepticism due to the bit in Mark Johnson's book saying Procession
wasn't written until October 1980. The individual apparently stepped up to the
plate and provided a snippet of Procession:
http://www.new-order.net/av/samples/1980-09-20_Maxwells_Hoboken_NJ/defiantpose/
There's also a question of whether this was the 20st or the 21st.
At long last, a soundboard recording of this show has surfaced, and it's
refealed that the third track was titled "Hour".
See http://www.joydiv.org/cancel.htm#T3 for an eyewitness account
confirming that NO opened with IALP.
A Youtube clip of a portion of _Dreams___Never___End_ surfaced in early
June 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S1LijhiJs4
As well as a medley of all the songs, establishing the setlist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ku6X2-QOo
(which appears to have been pulled for now)
All courtesy of Merrill Aldigheiri.
From tape seeded by 'snotters' to STG.
Sound is excellent, though generation isn't quite known.
Notes by 'snotters':
A couple of requests for this so as it's quite a small file (30 minute
set) I'm letting it loose! Fascinating document in New Order's live
history in many ways. To say they sounded raw and under-rehearsed here
is an understatement! Still compelling listening at times, when you
consider what they went through just months earlier, having to pick up
the pieces etc.
IALP is played with a drum machine - due to the fact that it's said that
Steve was singing. I'm not convinced myself. The shit really hits the
fan when Hooky attempts to sing! Steve is also said to have sung Truth,
but if this is the case he sounds a lot like Barney to me!
On this tour the band managed to have all their gear nicked! Imagine -
some lucky bastard has all the original guitars, keyboards etc used by
Joy Division!! So Hooky had to play on a borrowed 4 string songs which
he would normally tackle on his Shergold 6 string. that's why Cries &
Whispers and Dreams Never End sound so "odd".
Either way this show is essential for collectors and certainly worth a
listen. The quality is pretty good, considering! I cleaned up a bit of
high end hiss via soundforge too.
My writeup:
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
As advertised, it features a drum machine, but to me, it appears that
Barney's singing this. Tempo is slower than on the release. Song
ends with melodica.
Female audience member talking here.
_Dreams___Never___End_
PH: "1-2".
Has the cymbal shuffle intro as on Western Works, but the bass sounds
different, as noted above, because Hooky's playing this on a four
string. Brief dropout at 2:16.
Lots of chatter here, with somebody shouting, "Bring it together!"
and somebody else (nearer the taper) saying "See anything?".
_Cries___And___Whispers_
Opens with bass throbs and a synth wash. Steve is singing! (Hooky
did this one later, at least with this version of the song)
_Truth_
The Order are changing vocalists with each song. Barney's turn.
Ends with a bass riff, and a bit of tuning.
_Mesh_
Starts off with drums and Hooky's inimitatible bass riffing and vocals.
_Homage_
This still has the loping gait of melody. Steve's turn got skipped,
so we have Barney singing again. Ends in bass feedback.
_Ceremony_
It appears that Steve and Barney just swapped places. Morris on
vocals here. Brief dropout near the end (4:21).
I had two versions of this. The first is from NO Anthology Part Five
at 128kbps, treated with somewhat annoying noise reduction, which has
IALP labelled as "Dreams Never End" and both Dreams Never End and Truth
as "Truth", and with "Cries And Whispers" and "Mesh" swapped. The second
has MP3s at 192kbps, and is of unknown origin, with lots of tape hiss,
but claiming to be better quality, which for the most part it is, but
overall both are fairly poor-sounding. Both appear to originate from
the same source.
Better sources have since shown up, though much of this account
reflects the initial MP3 versions used for this writeup.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Intro is cymbals and melodica. Bernard's vocals sounds like it's a
thousand miles away. Otherwise, this version sounds fairly faithful
to the release.
A punter can be heard speaking between tracks.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Hooky complete butchers the opening bass riff, but they slough onward
anyway. At about 34 seconds in on the 192k version, some weird backwards
feedback-y sound can be heard running in parallel to the main track. This
may be a fault of this particular source tape, and is most probably
bleeding from the other side of the tape, because it doesn't appear
on the the Anthology version, and it's only present a few minutes in,
consistent with blank space at the end of the other side of the tape.
The 128k version has a high-pitched whine throughout this and the
remaining tracks.
_Truth_
The backwards playing is more audible through the opening, but thankfully
stops at 27 seconds in (after pausing for a second after 0:14). A punter
says something about "yelling" during the intro. Bernard says "promise
of your lies" instead of "promise I made once".
_Mesh_
Hooky appears to be doing vocals. The lyrics for his version are
completely different than the recorded version with Sumner's vox.
It's too bad I can't make out any of it. The guitar work is pretty
funky, probably because the guitarist is freed from having to sing.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
Opens with a synth wash and Hooky's galloping bass. I believe
Hooky's doing vocals as well, which are also different than the
release version, and the main guitar riff is slower.
_Procession_
More developed than the former two tracks.
Bernard says something about turning down the "fucking lights",
at least twice.
Loud cheering at the end of this.
_Ceremony_
Hooky or somebody mutters at the start of this.
A rousing round of applause at the end.
BS: "Thank you all for coming, that's it. Thanks a lot."
Stamping and cries for "More!" as the recording fades out.
See http://www.neworderonline.com/Forums/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=48664
Some confirmation from bl0tt0:
"I was at the Art College at the time, helping run gigs at the Basement Bar.
It was a really seedy dive but we did put on some interesting gigs with bands
that went on to make it big (U2 with Bono standing on a beer crate in order
to raise his height on the stage made of pallets was fairly amusing).
I was at the gig so it did definitely happen, as did the ACR gig. Sadly though
I have no mementos. I just remember it as being a bit of a coup getting NO so
early in their career. The guy that was principally responsible for bookings
at the time was Addison Cresswell, now manager to the majority of top line
British comedians."
Local tape is decent quality for such an old gig.
No less than three songs debuted in this recording, assuming
there weren't any gigs taped between the Squat, Manchester date,
and this one.
The debut of _ICB_, as well as the debut of _The___Him_.
Bernard says something about the levels on his vocals and guitar
before they perform _Truth_. Can't make it out much better than
that.
_Truth_
BS: "We don't play any Joy Division...we're doing our own(?) stuff."
(can't entirely make this out, this is a blind guess really)
Bernard makes another statement to the crowd before the start of
_Cries___And___Whispers_, barely intelligible:
BS: "Some of you are staying quiet...better than watch(ing?) us...
better than..."
(soundchecking during his statement makes it very difficult to pick
up...this is followed by a very interesting feedback effect)
The band then play the number.
Tape edit at this point.
_Dreams___Never___End_ follows.
_Ceremony_
BS: "This song is for you."
_Senses_
BS: "We only want this fookin' drum machne...we really want to...
now we're fucked playing."
(can't make out some of this)
The debut performance.
Sounds a bit different due to the drum machine intro.
New Order's third gig as a four-piece. The band seems to have a
lot of monitor problems here, which makes for an unusually large
number of speaking bits.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
BS: "One, two. No foldback."
_The___Him_
Debut performance.
BS: "There's a section of foldback on this."
and right before the vocals...
BS: "The guitar through the foldback."
_Mesh_
(right after Hooky's done with singing)
PH: "One two. Turn the foldback on this, please. One two.
One two, more if possible. One."
_Procession_ is next.
Tape edit into _Truth_
BS: "How are we getting on? We want the drum machine through the
foldback, we're not getting anything at all. All we're getting is
feedback. Everyone, spread back! Turn it up a bit. Through the
foldback. Still not getting it through the foldback."
A few seconds later, a higher pitched voice is heard (from
the same location in the stereo field Bernard was coming from)
saying, "Hi hat."
BS: "Turn the drum...back up." Synths at this point are low
in the mix but are turned up to dominate it.
Some tuning between this and the next that.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
BS: "Sorry if you were expecting any, uh, Joy Division songs.
Well, not really, I know we're not playing them."
[Mark Johnson gives 'really' instead of 'not really', and 'We're
not going to be playing any.']
(afterwards)
BS: "Any requests? [silence] There's no fucking no one."
_Dreams___Never___End_, _Ceremony_, and _Senses_ conclude the
set.
Tape courtesy of Snotters. As he notes, it sounds like about
40 people were there.
announcer: "Okay, punters, if you can put your hands on stage
and welcome on stage, New Order. Thank you."
_ICB_
Instrumental version. Second time for this one.
BS: "A little more snare though the foldback, please."
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Solid version, not much of note.
_Senses_
Remarkable intro bass synth sound, not unlike a growling motor.
_Mesh_
Different arrangement, with the extended drum and single bass
note, as well as Bernard's funky guitar work at the 1:30 point.
Like it quite a bit!
I really wish a soundboard version of this song would surface
so we can transcribe the lyrics.
Some audience chatter between tracks.
_Dreams___Never___End_
(at the end)
BS: "The guitar through the foldback..."
BS: "Yep...that's it."
_Cries___And___Whispers_
Another good intro.
A bit of audience chatter at the end.
_Truth_
Slightly different drum pattern than what appeared later.
Mic gets bumped a couple of times at around the 3:30 point.
_The___Him_
The second time this is played. The lyrics are nearly fully
formed, there may be a few lyrical variations, but nothing
stands out. Though Gillian's synth part is simpler than it
would become.
Also has the break where the song stops and starts again.
Some tape tracking issues (increased hiss) shortly before 2:00,
and at around the 4:00 mark.
_Ceremony_
Has initial bass riff, than a pause, and then it comes in a
rush. Bernard's guitar sound is a bit different, I guess
he hadn't picked up his Ceremony guitar at this point.
A very uplifting version.
Sound on long-circulating version is decent, but probably not
low-gen.
In March 2007, Duncan seeded his upgraded master clone to DIME.
And if you can believe it, there's another master clone in existence
which GaoBest received from a friend of the band.
BS: "Hi."
Bernard makes some noises before _Procession_.
Duncan's version fades in, so this is not heard on his version.
A fairly involved guitar solo here.
At about 1:05 somebody sounds like they're saying 'sorry'.
Lady can be heard giggling a bit on some of the audience
versions. Duncan's version features the following
conversation.
punter: "Is that a new one or a new one"
lady: "An old one"
taper (I think): "Oh, fucking good then."
punter: "I only know a few, c'mon."
Brief pause on the GaoBest version.
_Dreams___Never___End_
GaoBest version gets inadvertently paused during the intro.
BS: "Can I have some guitar through the foldback, please?"
[a few more words muttered which I can't make out]
Hooky calls for "guitar" at 1:45.
More conversion on the Duncan version, with the girl saying
"I've never really been into Joy Division."
_Truth_
Bit of a slow intro there.
Taper says "Just move this back a little bit."
_Mesh_
Hooky does his usual bit. 1:21, 1:26, 1:28-1:31,
and 1:51-1:55 have dropouts, at least on my copy.
But not on Duncan's.
BS: "We'd like to apologize for the feedback...
What was I thinking? Is it all right?"
_The___Him_
Somebody yells out "Get it right" at the start.
Sound starts garbling up between 1:20-1:30 on my old copy,
but not on Duncan's.
Very harsh guitars suggesting the mix was a bit of a problem.
The band tune up between this song and the next.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
Bernard sings this.
lyric: "Once, out of reach, we never speak, we never see"
Some person (higher pitched reedy male voice) says something
which I can't make out.
BS: "What?"
Same person: "You seem a little bit down to me. [couple more
words I can't make out]" Could also be "of that one" instead
of "a bit down", or something else entirely, don't know.
_Ceremony_
BS: "Anybody got anything to say? Or are you just going to
[can't make out the rest]..."
The set closes off with a nice, boingy _Senses_.
Recording posted to DIME by Duncan in March 2007.
The opening track is _Ceremony_.
PH: "Turn the foldback...on the wedges."
BS: "Turn the guitar up through the foldback as its
feeding back."
_Mesh_
Great guitar riffing here, though it overwhelms the
song near the end.
_Truth_
BS: "Well, well, well. We're not going to play any
Joy Division songs. What you'd do an encore for."
BS: "This one's called Truth, though."
The fans comment about this pronouncement.
The melodica and synth combo are piercingly, hauntingly
beautiful here.
_The___Him_ follows.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Great-sounding growling synth at the start.
voice: "There's a little bit of distortion on the left hand
side of the keyboard."
BS: "The left hand side of the PA has blown up, actually."
voice: "Oh, the PA...my God."
_Dreams___Never___End_ follows.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
There's feedback through the first verse.
BS: "Sorry about the silent party",
Neil O'Connor (who recorded the show) noted Bernard's wry comment,
and that it was said, "as if to have a little dig at the crowd
who were pretty much stood montionless, only offering reserved
applause in-between songs.
_Senses_
voice: "Just like the Cure, that one...
BS: "Listen to that bass, woo. Electric drums, that."
Soundcheck
_The___Him_
BS: (2:05) "I need vocals [thru the] foldback."
_Senses_
Lots of boingy sound effects
PH: "One two. Give me this...one two, one two.
Ho-kay, now. One two."
BS: "Okay, one...let's just re... that. One two."
The guitar riff to "Sweet Jane".
Bernard and Hooky one-two.
_Truth_
You take those cymbals down a little bit in the foldback.
One two."
Hooky plays the bassline of Dead Souls through the drum
machine line, really cool...before reverting back to the
normal bassline of the song.
BS: (1:48) "One two"
Hooky cries out for "Jerry" and the song comes to a close,
and someone says "this is the last song of..." and something
about shouting.
BS: "That's all right, apart from that."
PH: "One two"
Only have one of the tracks (in MP3 form). Sound is downright dodgy.
The whole thing has since shown up, with sound still dodgy.
TJ had the following description (based on 'An Ideal For Living'):
"Bombers Over Vienna opened, and Positive Noise were on second.
A terrible sounding gig, both at the gig and on recording, Bernard
complained throughout about the PA system. They aborted Dreams Never
End halfway through and tried it again after a Bernard tantrum, and he
introduced Cries and Whispers as Atmosphere, but then added "we were
gonna do that but because of the shit PA we can't". An encore of Ceremony
topped proceedings. One of the worst sounding NO tapes there is!"
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Hooky "one, twos" right before his vocal turn and through the cheering
for the song they had just played, in preperation for the next song,
_Dreams___Never___End_. Or at least the first run-through, which
peters about after about two minutes.
They then start over, and this time make it through.
BS: "For fuck sake, get this fucking [something] straight onto that
stupid [something else] now."
_Truth_
About 30 seconds in...
BS: "Oh, we got a drum machine now."
_Mesh_ follows...a very good rendition, actually.
_Procession_
Bernard cries out "What?" at about 0:52 in.
Tape fades out at this point.
_ICB_
BS: "...[something], man(?)"
_The___Him_
Bernard's vocals end up much louder than the music, probably at the
point the PA starts to give out.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
BS: "Still like fucking shit sound...who was that?"
(As synths start up)
BS: "It's called Atmosphere..." (huge cheering) "Nononononono, sorry,
no it's not. We're gonna do that before, but because of the shit PA we
can't. Requires a [sounds like 'harsh military'] sound'.
Mark Refoy suggests he's talking about the bad sound.
Fades out.
_Senses_
Sounds like a different recording, more clear.
BS: "Sorry about the sound... [couple more words hard to make out]"
The bass drum here is especially loud.
BS: "Listen to that bass drum. Whoo! Electric drums, that."
Terrific guitar riffing here.
The track fades out, but not before a boost in the s
_Ceremony_
Some noodling with the amps.
BS: (hard to make out) "Sorry, changing out...interested in buying a
drum? Well, look man, anyway...the enthusiasm...[word]...up"
Transferred from an old TJ tape.
_Procession_ starts out the set, and is followed by _Dreams___Never___End_.
This is followed by _In___A___Lonely___Place_. There's a bit of taper
chatter at the start of this.
_Mesh_
New Order's final performance of this song, to be retired come Feburary's
performances.
Hooky may say 'thank you' after this. Conversation around the taper
then centers around a camera somebody had brought.
_Truth_
Bernard says something at the beginning that I can't make out. Still
more chatter around the taper, including a comment on whether they'd
be playing Bela Lugosi's Dead after this.
_The___Him_ features yet more taper chatter, and quite a bit of it, too.
Some tuning between tracks afterwards.
_Senses_
More tuning between tracks afterwards.
_Ceremony_
This skips on TJ's version.
Source is from kered5's master. Better than what you would
expect from a dictation-type tape recorder. Also have a
source from CW, recorded with a Sony TCS-300, featuring better
sound, and more audiene chatter.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ is first, followed by _Dreams___Never___End_.
At 3:00 on the CW tape, a girl yelps. There's quite a bit of
audience chatter before DNE (somebody mentions Joy Division
at one point), and feedback at 1:13 or so.
The end of DNE features somebody cackling, and a tiny bit of
tuning.
_ICB_
Drumbeats sound like somebody stamping their feet on the floor.
BS: "There's no sequencer in the foldback."
Sequencer? 1981? Yup, that's what he says.
A tiny bit of guitar fiddling before the start of _Truth_.
A hiccup sound at the end. Barney bashes out some chords.
_Procession_ follows, and then _The___Him_.
More tuning and a "boing!" synth effect preceding _Senses_,
that can also be heard during the song's intro.
Edit between Senses and _Ceremony_ (CW tape)
(on the kered5 tape)
And yet more tuning before Ceremony. One fan says something
about it being the new single. There appears to be some
bleed-through at the 2:10 point. There's also some talking
from 3:10 through the next minute...whoever it is sounds
perhaps upset at the brevity of the set?
Interesting note regarding screwup on Procession.
http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=14163
To summarize, it's reported that the Stockholm Monsters were the
support, so the question was brought forth whether they had
performed on _Procession_, but in fact it turns out to be
a drunk Barney, with Hooky messing up a few times as well
(johnny james and Detweiler get credit for discussing this)
http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=14206
contains some more information regarding the tracklisting.
Tape starts with soundcheck versions of _Senses_ and _Truth_.
The band tune up at this point.
No comments through _ICB_. Barney tunes his guitar again after
_Procession_.
Some lady starts chattering in a real thick brogue at the
start of _Truth_. I can't make out a word. Hooky's makes
an error here, or decides to alter the bassline a bit.
The band tune up again before _Senses_, in fact they're still
tuning through the initial drum bit.
Cut between Senses and _The___Him_.
After The Him, somebody starts to chant something over and over
a few times, it may have been "Gillian, Gillian!". Bernard replies
with something about how "You have to shout out every night...
[2 words]?...always following me around"...
More of the same chanting after _Ceremony_. No commentary by any
of the band.
_Dreams___Never___End_ closes the set. A bit of PA noise after.
Soundcheck
_Senses_
Hooky says "synth through the foldback".
_Truth_
Some muttering about a drum machine.
Sounds 21 Feb 81
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds2-81live.htm
NOTES
Article identifies Gillian as Steve Morris' _girlfriend_. They've been
together for a very long time, as this was written early 1981.
Definitely written by somebody sympathetic to their "cause".
Soundcheck tracks include instrumental Joy Division numbers like
"Glass" and "Digital".
I remember that the AIFL tome mentioned that the PA was quadrophonic,
which was said to be an experiment that failed.
The band starts off with _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
Some chatter after...weird metallic plucking afterwards.
Unusual start to _Dreams___Never___End_ with guitar playing a full
minute and a half before Hooky's bass comes in.
Some more chatter and tittering, as there's another longish-break
between tracks, which Stephen fills with drum fills.
_ICB_
Intro sounds a bit like Senses here.
_Truth_
Distinctive feature is a female punter commenting about the sound.
_Procession_
Weird guitar+keyboard intro.
BS: "...more guitar through the foldback...[can't make out rest due to
the reverb]"
_The___Him_
The sound mix seems to do this one good. Hooky mutters something at
about 2:25. Folks clap at 4:15, not knowing that the silence there
wasn't the end of the song.
_Senses_
I love the spring-type sounds at the start. Stereo shift at about 3:05.
_Ceremony_ finishes out the set.
To quote from Mark Johnson:
"To the massive-but-short-lived cheers of the audience Bernard announced
that the eighth song would be "Atmosphere", but he hastened to add
'We were going to do that, but because of the shit P.A., we can't.
Master recording courtesy of Duncan.
This is one where the band just play, there's very little
interaction that you can hear here.
_Denial_
We have what sounds like bleed-through on the tape or somebody
left Section 25 on stage.
This is followed by _In___A___Lonely___Place_ and
_Dreams___Never___End.
A bit of an odd version, very guitar-heavy and Hooky doesn't
sing "soul" at the end of the second verse.
_Procession_ follows.
_Truth_
Bernard strums his guitar, VU-like, during the intro, which
really gets going with Hooky's driving bass, interrupted by
a random feedback squall.
_ICB_ then follows.
_Senses_
The band tune up and take a small break to plug in guitars
a bit between this and the final track _Ceremony_.
Soundcheck
Consists of three tracks.
_Doubts___Even___Here_
Initially titled, 'Tiny Tim', this is the first instrumental
run through of this track. Very arresting, yet another case
of the first time being the best.
_Denial_
At the time, this was known as 'Little Dead'.
_Truth_
This is just 'Truth'.
Quality of my version is decent. A better version from a
different source tape (copy from the master) has recently
surfaced.
New Order open the set with _Ceremony_.
Then comes _Dreams___Never___End_ with audience members
asking and answering what song this is. Hooky's vocals
are fairly clear in this one, though the opening bass
riff stumbles a bit. They then roll into _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
Some audience chatter during the intro of _Truth_, to
the effect that the track they were playing hadn't been
released yet, but I'm not completely certain that's in
fact what was said.
Bernard tunes his guitar a bit before _ICB_.
_The___Him_ follows. Rough edit before _Procession_.
(afterwards)
BS: "a bit more guitar through the monitor would be lovely...
more guitar."
_Denial_ concludes the set. Second time it's ever played.
It nearly sounds hopeful, and is quite a good version that
has the crowd crying out for more, which they of course do
not get.
NO: 27 MAR 81 Trinity Hall - Bristol England
Most commonly heard as part of "The Dream" bootleg.
Looks like this is the 27 Mar 81 Trinity Hall Bristol England gig.
Sounded like a very rowdy crowd, too bad my high-quality headphones
blew out, so I'm having to use external speakers to play the music
through, which makes transcribing between-song patter a bit harder.
This happens to be documented at
Support was Tunnelvision.
Bass in _Ceremony_ during the bridge is badly out of tune.
Near the end of the song Bernard says "less guitar in the foldback."
_Procession_
BS: "Less guitar in the foldback."
Some punter yells "dross".
BS: "What?"
Punter yells "dross" again.
BS: "Come up here and aay that, cuntface. I cannot see through here.
Stand up here, don't be afraid."
Another punter comments, "Talking doesn't swear".
(as Bernard is now able to survey the crowd)
BS: "You've got blonde hair!"
This episode is recounted in Mark Johnson's "An Ideal For A Living"
book.
On one version, the taper or someone close to him talks (what he says
I can't make out) as Bernard sings "It's a problem, you know".
_Dreams___Never___End_
Same punter as before repats his shout of "dross" .
BS: "You're fucking moving to the front, right, you fuck(?)."
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Some audience chatter at the start of this.
_Truth_
BS: "This one...to foldback, foldback".
Taper or someone near him cries "hey".
_The___Him_
You can hear BS yelling twice for "a little bit more guitar"...and
"a little more guitar though the foldback".
Person near taper comments, "That was magic."
_Senses_ follows.
More taper comments.
_Denial_ closes out the set.
Soundcheck
There are multiple separate sources. Their tracklists are as follows:
The "Denial" here is taken from 1981-04-10 Cedar Club B'ham and not this
gig!
They are about eqivalent in quality.
Bernard says something about the foldback.
PH: "One two, one two...that's all right, Ozzie. One two.
Drum machine. Getting old, right?"
voice (perhaps Ozzie): "We're getting old..."
PH: "Drum machine, Barney."
_ICB_ (vocal version) follows.
Hooky says something about the guitar to Ozzie about midway through.
Some comments about the wedgies afterwards.
Punter says "five quid"...
Then Hooky plays the bassline of what sounds like _Komakino_ but is
really _Senses_, as the riffs are similar, and it really illustrates
the link between the two songs. At 2:09, Bernard cries out,
"more guitar."...long fadeout during the middle of the track.
_Senses_
(after)
BS: "Yeah, the guitar was right at the end there, if...if you keep the
foldback level on the guitar like that was at the end, than that's
alright."
Someone cries out for Hooky...Steve, Gillian.
Ozzie: "Yeah, turn it down a bit..."
BS: "Yeah...fuckin'...Can you give us as much top on the vocals as
possible, Ozzie?"
Ozzie: "As much top as possible?"
BS: "Without feeding back."
Ozzie: "Yeah, well, the problem...feeding now..."
BS: "What?"
Ozzie: "We'll do that now...[mutter]
BS: "Okay."
voice: "Turn the foldback down...wait, WAIT!"
PH(?) (off-mic): "You don't get that many of 'em..."
The first source is a tape from the archives, which only contain the
listed tracks, omitting Dreams Never End and Denial, at least according
to Waterrat.
I've since received a much more clear version, with all of the tracks
present. It may be from a second source.
Sound is hissy but is fairly listenable, being a bit bass-heavy.
The hissiness may have been due to the recorder.
BS: "Don't cheer, Won't...after...visit..." (can't make out)
(the second source starts after this point)
_Doubts___Even___Here_
The debut of this song, first of eight times New Order perform this song.
(they had stopped playing it by June 1981) Sung by Hooky. Great
version, especially like the synth effects at the start.
Break at 0:51 on second source, the first being complete.
_Chosen___Time_
Debut of this song as well! Bernard yells out "I'll never know!".
Features some soloing not heard in the album or later live versions.
There's an edit between the prior song and _Truth_ (likely the missing
Dreams Never End).
_Dreams___Never___End_
Bit of a false start with the opening bass riff.
_Truth_ follows.
The next song is _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
Mark Johnson says that, "Bernard forgot the lyrics of IALP. He was
singing along in the usual way, then he got to one passage and all that
came from his mouth was a rather daft noise for the rest of the line.
Finally, Peter came in and started singing to save him."
This is followed by _Procession_, and then _Senses_, which on my
original tape is cut...
Last song is _Denial_. Garbles at 2:00 for about 20s. Mic bump at 4:00.
Taken from B. Vick archives, on a CH-sourced tape, whose master
sounds fairly good. Too bad this is an Nth generation copy.
Another recording from Duncan has recently surfaced.
_Doubts___Even___Here_
Second performance of this song.
punter: "That was with the same voice..." (I think)
Nearly three minutes until Hooky's vocal, they may have
been having mic problems of some sort. Some audience/stage
interaction which I have to listen to closer.
Mic bump and a feedback squall at the end.
_Ceremony_
Some audience chatter at the end of this.
punter: "The last days, talked to him. And Nelson. And David."
another: "What were they playing?"
punter: "Who wants to get that?"
third: "Play one you know."
_Dreams___Never___End_
Hooky completely flubs the intro, and has to start again.
PH: "Can I get...with the foldback, please?"
BS: "More foldback for me."
_The___Him_
Very good version, long feedback squall near the end, right
before Barney sings, "so tired."
_Truth_
The drum machine starts out really fast, but is slowed down to
the proper pitch after the first measure.
More audience comments near the end.
Tape break (squeegie-like, no better way of describing the sound
the old recorders would make) between this and the next track.
A slight bit of soundchecking.
_Chosen___Time_
Second performance of this number.
Bernard's vocals in the middle are pretty ropey. Sounds like they
speed up during the bridge.
_Procession_
BS: "Can I get some more foldback, Ozzie? More foldback."
Bernard tunes up at the end of this. A couple of boing noises (synth
tune-up?) can be heard as well.
_Senses_ follows.
Punter and friend chat during the intro of _Denial_.
Weird sound during the "terrifies me" line...and the same sound later
on during the "I tried so hard line"...sounds a bit like static.
Hair-raising "inside of me" shouts.
Soundcheck
_Denial_
(afterwards)
Ozzy: "Steve - You okay with that - can you hear it?" (The last part
of the sentence being shortened to "Can y'ear it?")
My version (which was what was identified as being from Reading) cuts
out at this point.
SM: "Yeah. (Pause) It's alright"
Ozzy: (after a pause) "How about you Barney? Are you okay?" (The word
'about' is muffled by a cymbal noise)
BS: "Can you give us a bit more top on the vocals in the foldback?"
Ozzy: "Yeah we'll try that....(rest is too quiet to hear)"
_The___Him_ follows. The WR listing has it reversed in "real time".
_Doubts___Even___Here_ opens the set, the last time it would
ever do so.
_Chosen___Time_
Stereo shift at 3:05 on TJ version.
Somebody barks right before the start of _Dreams___Never___End_.
_ICB_
During the intro, Bernard says something about turning the
syndrum up.
At 2:42, there's a ripping sound.
_Senses_ follows, as does _Denial_ and _Procession_.
_Ceremony_
The TJ version is cut at about the 4:00 mark. An alternate
version from ST is complete.
Last tape of the Scotland mini-tour, supported by The Visitors.
My version is a fairly poor audience tape.
Some audience chatter after the opener, _Ceremony_, Bernard appears
to apologize for something, I can't make out what.
It could be at this point he says "this is God speaking, this is
your death speaking". (unverified)
_The___Him_ follows, and then the fourth of the eight performances of
_Doubts___Even___Here_.
_Truth_
PH: "We're..." [five words, can't make out rest]"
At end...
PH: "Move(?) back ...because the the foldback..."
Bernard utters a word.
_Senses_
Some woman calls out "Mark" or somesuch a few times.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Bass intro sounds a bit strange, like Hooky's not playing it
on the six-string.
_Chosen___Time_ follows.
The intro to _Denial_ is a bit muffed.
Both this and _In___A___Lonely___Place_ have Bernard screeching.
Near the end Bernard starts to passionatly scream out lyrics,
but due to the quality of the source tape I can't make anything
out.
Recording courtesy of TJ via grende_l.
description:
"low-generation tape copy (slight hiss) of a very good audience
recording, from TJ's vault; audience chatter abounds, but this won't
detract from your listening pleasure, as this is an excellent
performance (6 tracks that would end up on 'Movement' + 2 singles
tracks). No sound-processing was done. There's a cut between Procession
& Denial in the recording (all on one side of a C-45, though);
strangely, after the cut the sound is much clearer for a short while,
but by the time Denial starts there's no noticeable difference with the
other tracks anymore."
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Fade-in on the recording. Another version reveals Hooky saying,
"One two, one two" over the fading-out PA backing track.
Quite a bit of audience chatter at the start, and throughout the
track.
_Chosen___Time_ follows.
At the very start, Hooky strums bass really quickly to produce an
interesting sound effect.
Last portion has additional synth part, which isn't typical.
_Dreams___Never___End_
PH: "One, two, could you turn these monitors and the drum down
with the vocals?"
_Truth_
Male and female punters talking, difficult to make out what they're
talking about. Hooky's bass starts in at 0:19 and dominates the
intro, very impressive. Bernard's melodica starts up at 0:50, with
Gillian's synth at 1:05.
More chatter between this and _The___Him_.
You can really almost make out the banter between the gent and lass
before _Senses_.
_Procession_
Yet more chatter.
Barney appears to ad-lib shortly after the 2:00 point, or else this
is an early example of swearing through a lyric.
_Denial_
BS: "Give me some lights [can't make out]...you...[??]"
Broadcast 18 JUN 81. My copy is a flickery PAL->NTSC dub,
with tracking issues every once in a while.
Tracks:
_Dreams___Never___ENd_
Gillian's hair is fairly short, and she has a cute bowtie on the top.
The band is po-faced and doesn't talk at any point. Morris' drumming
at the end of Chosen Time and at the start of Denial is as always a
high point.
Credits roll over the last part of Truth.
There's also a 21 minute tape of outtake tracks.
_Ceremony_
At the end Bernard mutters something I can't make out, that
garners laughter and clapping.
Hooky then says something which I can't make out either.
Barney strums his guitar in what sounds slightly like the
Velvets' "Sweet Jane", there's a feedback squall, and then,
the start of _Doubts___Even___Here_.
Mic bump at 2:52.
BS: "Someone's got a pee-pee lined...[don't understand]"
A member of the audience repeats this, in a questioning manner.
_Digital_
Very short (1:24) instrumental, with the starting portion
garbled.
_Denial_
Much of this sounds distorted.
_Dreams___Never___End_
First take breaks down during first verse, voice says "Due to...
[can't make out] we're gonna have to start again.
PH: "We're incredibly hung over. One two, one two...one two."
(not sure if this is really what Hooky says). Some other
chatter as well, and Barney says someting about "beautiful"
and "you get to quiet down a bit"...which generate laughter.
_Dreams___Never___End_ is started over again.
Melody Maker 23 May 81
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM5-81.htm
Purports to be the first interview New Order has ever given.
Also includes account of Forum Ballroom gig
Also
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM12-88.htm
Has a brief description of Bernard at this gig.
Before the first soundcheck track, there's a bit of dialogue.
BS: "Sure this little synth...mine's loud enough..."
PH: "Can I have a little more synth through my wedge?"
Soundcheck tracks include:
Truth
Ceremony
Performance:
Ceremony
The version I have starts with a girl giggling and asking what
the time is.
Bernard than can be heard to say something to the effect that
the band won't be playing any Joy Division songs tonight,
notwithstanding that Ceremony started off as one.
Dreams Never End
Quite a bizarre version. It breaks down after about minute or
so, after Hooky flubs the bass intro at the 20 second point,
with the bassist stopping and only guitar and drums beying played.
Then the band jams something akin to a Buzzcocks tune before
jamming back into the song they're supposed to be playing.
Truth
Has some weird noises at the end, achieved by Bernard scraping
his strings. Lots of reverb on the vocals here.
ICB
Anarchic guitar jamming closes out the track, quite good!
A/B split at this point.
The band than power through the second half of their set, starting with:
Senses
...and then...
Chosen Time
The end of Denial has a eerie spoken word Bernard delivering
the "chorus".
Ends with In A Lonely Place, which concludes with a lovely
burst of feedback and synth drones.
Fairly poor re-EQed version of recording. A superior version missing
all but the first couple secons of "Denial" surfaced on DIME in late
February 2007.
Vocals and bass on _The___Him_ are very odd sounding, I suspect this
runs somewhat fast. (referring to old version)
_Dreams___Never___Ends_ follows.
Fifth time they perform _Doubts___Even___Here_. A bit of audience
chatter right before. Gets rousing approval, punter on old version
says something between this and _Truth_, which is follwed by _ICB_.
The intro instrumental interplay here is outstanding, only marred by
the vocals coming in late and being mixed low.
_Truth_
The quadrophonic sound seems to greatly benefit the drum machine
FX here.
_ICB_
At one point here Bernard repeats "Je ne sais pas."
Break between _Procession_ and _Senses_ (old version).
punter: "Syndrum. Snare." And then a sentece I can't understand.
The DIME source cuts out after a couple seconds into _Denial_.
Bernard yells at the end of the song, and then moans at the end,
and says a few words I can't make out.
Soundcheck
One of the older versions has _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_.
Duncan's newly surfaced version doesn't include that but does
have the following:
_Chosen___Time_
Interesting synth line near end.
A bit of chatter between tunes.
_The___Him_
Start is cut.
Fairly hissy (though not muddy) sounding tape, but still fairly
listenable. A Duncan recording with a soundcheck take of
"Ceremony" has since shown up.
These tracks are prefaced on my source tape with versions of
Procession and Dreams Never End (cuts after less than a minute)
that are taken from an unknown gig, most likely either Chorley
(03 Jan 81) or Plato's Ballroom, Liverpool (14 Jan 81) but could
be any number of other dates if Procession wasn't the opener.
It's now believed that the soundcheck tracks (Denial and Senses)
attributed to this gig are actually taken from Cedar Club Birmingham
1981-04-10 and Trinity Hall Bristol 1981-03-27 respectively.
However, it does appear that there is a legit recording of _Ceremony_
being soundchecked.
And it seems there's at least two versions as Whiskybob on DIME
has put up one that doesn't have all the cuts the first version
does.
_The___Him_
The original version joins this track in progress (first part of the
song is cut), but the newer version is complete.
There's a fair amount of talking through the intro of next song,
_Chosen___Time_.
Ends in low-pitched filter sweeps.
_Dreams___Never___End_
At the end, a punter says, "Right, really nice...".
_Truth_
lyric: "Some people look down on me, I hope they're disgusted with
what they see."
On the old version, the end of the song is cut, but is complete on
the newer source.
_Procession_
At one point, Bernard sings "I don't know" during the "Destruction...
devotion, it's all the same to me." bit.
_Senses_
Features a very prominent guitar solo bit.
A tape cut (old version, new one has no cut), and then New Order tunes
up with Barney ranting about something...for over a minute before the
start of the next tune, _Ceremony_.
BS: "Hey, you'll just have to wait while we tune up...[new version
has a cut here] something to think about for all you futurists...
especially the ones with ... coats(?) [here he makes _really_ weird
vocal noises]... craft. If you don't understand that, you're not
a Futurist."
Mark Johnson says that the point of this was to attack those who had
identified or labelled the group as aligned with Futurism.
Out of the blue, Bernard SCREAMS "I'll break them down"...
New Order segue right into _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
(about 4 minutes in)
BS: "Bass Drum...[name]...turn the bass drums back up...just turn
(up) the bass...everyone, New Order is sick of the stories...[something]
I want everyone to be sick...just sick of the way...you just don't
understand...[something] nuclear(?)...[something] nature...you should
be sick...[something] acid...and then he goes completely unhinged on the
Futurists, "you're just shit...you're just dirt, you're just scum, you're
just filth, you're just sick...scum...dirt...sick-filled scum-filled,
you... you're shit, you're shit, you're shit...[other mutterings]
scoot back, you little shit" etc. The song comes to a close.
There's another edit in the tape. Apparently Section 25 come on and
performs a long jam with New Order...sounding a bit like
_Cries___And___Whispers_, but has Larry Cassidy (I think) on vocals,
who sings a few lyrics. There's a small break for applause, and then
the music starts up again, with the keyboards serving to define the
melody, and then has a drum-only section, and some more Cassidy
vocals before the tape cuts out.
Tape courtesy of 'nof586'.
_Instrumental_
This to me sounds like a reworking of Mesh, but incorporating
elements of 'Sister Ray', especially with respect to the drumming.
Excellent stuff.
_Procession_
A segue from the last track.
Bernard screeches after one of the verses.
The band tune up after the end, doing it for well over 30 seconds.
_Ceremony_ is played next.
_Doubts___Even___Here_
Played only two more times afterwards. None of these versions feature
Gillian's part. Ends with drums.
_Truth_
Bernard wanders from the script at the 1:48 point, when he sings
"Seems so glad they destruct" (rather than "to be here")
_Dreams___Never___End_
Stellar-sounding guitar from Mr. Sumner.
_ICB_
Again, great guitar work from Bernard.
Break in tape between this and _Senses_.
Then _Denial_, followed by another brief break.
The concert ends with _In___A___Lonely___Place_ which in and of itself
is unusual, with an rendition to match.
Bernard says something at 1:40 I can't make out.
"I'm warm like a debt..." as he stumbles over the lyric shortly before
the 3:00 point.
Shortly before 4:00: "Turn the microphone down...turn the bass drum up."
Followed by a few yelps.
Bernard than starts talking, which I can't make out.
Only two tracks that appear to be extant are from
"A Factory Complication".
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
The debut for this song.
The lyrics are much unlike any version I've ever heard,
but are too low in the mix to be able to properly decipher.
_Truth_
Nothing really special to note.
Many thanks to 'booomboom' for making this one available.
One of the best '81 performances, IMHO.
A fade-in to _Truth_ opens the set.
Second to last ever performance of _Doubts___Even___Here_.
_ICB_ follows.
Somebody calls for "Incubation". They get _Dreams___Never___End_
instead.
_The___Him_ follows, quite a tight performance. _Procession_
comes next.
For some reason the LP bootleg ('Dreams Never End') leaves out
_Chosen___Time_, but it is present on the master clone that
'booomboom' made available in April 2004.
Punter cries out for "She's Lost Control". Bernard says something,
of which I can make out "brain-dead", before the band play a storming
_Denial_.
False state to _Ceremony_. Fans yell out...
BS: "If any of you screwheads have any interest than to shout out..."
Bernard than says something about Joy Division, and "you realize
that we're not trying to rip you off...I think it's tonight...".
Would love for somebody to transcribe this part, it's bugged me
for years.
Then a marathon version of _Everythings___Gone___Green_, the second
time the group ever performed it. An amazing intro, only marred
by a few dropouts at about the 2:15-2:20 point, and being faded
at the 17:55 point (due to the reel length being about an hour,
presumably).
_The___Him_ ends with a neat guitar coda.
The melodica solo on _Truth_ is a bit uneven.
Barney almost utters something at the end of _Chosen___Time_,
sounds like "Hello".
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ here is over ten minutes.
Taken from the "Dead Bodie's(sic) Can't Sing" CD boot.
The sound quality, unlike many of the 81 European gigs,
doesn't suffer from boominess.
It's obvious that this has been mastered from a boot LP
(probably the Radio Order Stockholm disc) due to the scratching
and crackling in a few places. Otherwise, the sound is very
good.
_Ceremony_
PH: (about a minute in) "Gillian's guitar...foldback's..."
Audience members are pretty vocal between songs here.
_Dreams___Never___End_
(at the end)
BS: "Needs a bit of er, snare drum...over in the front..."
_The___Him_ follows.
_Truth_
The band were having equipment problems, making the intro
on this song very different than how it normally gets played.
BS: Can't hear(?) the bass guitar's coming through the Vox
down...through the Vox."
_ICB_
It almost sounds like 'Cries and Whispers' for a second,
lots of scratching in the first part.
The song has some very distinctive riffing/soloing from
Bernard.
_Chosen___Time_
Fast tempo.
About midway into things, Bernard inserts the following
couplet:
People up and down
_Denial_ segues into _Everything's___Gone___Green_, which is the
prototype 10+ min jam version. One version fades out after 12 1/2
minutes, another just cuts out.
lyric: "One two three four, everybody hit the floor
Five six seven eight, everybody spewing hate!"
There's a bit of Giorgio Moroder/Donna Summer's "I Need Love".
BS: (at 8:25) "In five seconds, ...your help from below.
Nice people..."
Here's a transcription...the wording in certain places is
very uncertain.
Hearing the love from above
By the boardwalk
Where all you people go
Down by the boardwalk x5
Down by the boardwalk!
One two three turn around
One two three four
Woo!
By the boardwalk
I'm waiting from up above...x3
I'm in love x4
I'm in love
I'm in love x4
[Bernard yelps]
Down by the boardwalk...
In five seconds
Wooooooo...woohoowhoohoo
[More yelping]
I have two seperate MP3 versions of this (both 128k CBR),
one from the audio anthologies, the other downloaded from
Soulseek. This review is based off of the Soulseek collection,
I haven't done an A/B comparison, but I suspect the Soulseek
version has better SQ. Both version seem to have the same
whooshing effect caused by excessive noise reduction.
Since picked up a lossless copy that is definitely the same
source as the Soulseek MP3s, but somewhat better sound.
_Denial_
BS: "Ed, drums through the foldback."
Dropout on right channel for a few seconds at about 0:36-0:44.
BS: (lyric)"...stain on my windows." More bass!
He then yells "Outside me!"
_The___Him_
BS: Screams out "Shut up!" during the break in the song.
_Doubts___Even___Here_
The last time New Order ever play this one.
The end of _Senses_ has some weird repeated noise.
Not much more than this to report, they basically just
play the songs with little audible crowd interaction.
Mark Johnson says that the PA crew was affiliated with 10CC
and that New Order's short set was directed at how they
were bragging that their band could play for 2 1/2 hours
compared to New Order's 45 minutes.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/zza77/temp/oslo.htm has a detailed
review of this gig.
This performance exists in a number of formats.
One of the performances on the fabled 'Dreams Never End' 3xLP bootleg.
Includes the complete perfornamce.
Audio from New Order Anthology Volume 5, with "Senses" mislabelled
as "Chosen Time".
Also missing some tracks ("Truth", "IALP")
The rarest is a video, shot in near black-and-white with flickering
due to it being an early PAL to NTSC mastering job. Definitely
not a pro shot, *way* too many shock jerk zoom in and outs. Sound is
distorted in the bass rumble direction, and is in mono, and may have
been taken from a copy of a bootleg, as there is crackling, though the
sound seems not to have been re-EQ'ed, as it now appears to have been
in my copy of the 'Dreams Never End' bootleg. Video quality is murky,
to say the least (on par with FACT37). Bernard has a strange far away
stare, probably chemically induced. More closeups of Steve Morris than
normally seen in these sorts of things.
Video starts with _Dreams___Never___End_ (the first two songs apparently
no having been filmed). Gillian is initially barely present.
_The___Him_
Would this be the first recorded instance of the "woo"?
The Him: "Some days you waste your life away...whoo!"
_Ceremony_, _Truth_, and _ICB_ follow, the latter featuring excellent
guitar interplay. Volume suddenly rises for a second at the 4:47 point.
Tremendous bass feedback that starts between _Senses_ and _Procession_...
it drowns out much of the latter song.
Intense version of _Denial_. _IALP_ has more bass rumbling, and an improv
sequence near the end.
Despite press propaganda, New Order did play encores in the early days.
The whistling and cheering is nearly deafening as the bad eventually make
it back on for _Everything's___Gone___Green_, and more headache-inducing
zooming.
Featured is Ian's Vox guitar, which Bernard plays on for the duration
of the song. About midway during the song, there's an edit and the
camera angle changes. Near the end of the song, Bernard appears to
be chatting to Gillian for a bit, then he straps his guitar and returns
to what he was doing. Even with the edit, the song is nearly 9 minutes
long.
Some more information about the master, from "booomboom" in the
sharingthegroove.org forums:
Originally posted by snotters:
Fantastic! Can't wait - Roskilde 84 is a great gig too. Brilliant
versions of Sunrise and Perfect Kiss. But then most of the 84 gigs were
great (pre-Lowlife).
Booom, did you digitise Berlin 81 at all?
[His reply, unedited]:
No,and I have a little problem with that. The original was taped by a
Uher reel to reel ,I have the reel to reel tape , but my reel to reel
machine ( I hope , that's the right word ) is not working fine in the
moment , when I put the cables to the output ,I have a loud "Rattle &
Hum ". So I first have to fix my machine and after that I can work with
the reel to reel tapes , I think in a few weeks, but I promise you , I
will seed it .As you wrote , Roskilde `84was a great gig with ( in my
opinion ) one of the best versions of Perfect Kiss and it's a
mastertape .too.Much better quality than the bootleg from Roskilde , but
when I seed the show I will write more about these things.thanks for all
your interest and great comments,booomboom
This master has finally seen the light of day, thanks to booomboom.
He also notes a bit that got left off of the LP boot:
"for the perfect history , you can hear me speaking before track 10,
I'm saying a bad german word (Arschloch) that means asshole to my
neighbour, because he is crying in my microphones. (this part is only
avaiable at my mastertape, 2 seconds)
Source taken from Lars Nellemann CD. Tracks also currently available
from NewOrderOnline, which may be where the MP3 set I pulled off of
Soulseek come from.
Sounds like it was mastered from LP, like many other versions of early gigs.
There's quite a few bootlegs of this set.
_In___A____Lonely___Place_ faded in...
Hooky mutters something that I can't make out at about 0:20.
Good screams about 2:30 in, and again at about 3:30.
Melodica solo at 4:15
Crazy synth noises appear at the end, and leak over into _Dreams___Never___End_.
First verse almost inaudible...second verse better but they're still
having problems with his mic...Hooky doesn't do his soul scream here.
Fan whistles 0:20 into _Truth_. The synth riff is different, it's
a two-note riff rather than the usual progression.
Melodica riff at different pitch than version on record.
Truth backs into The Him...a particularly chilling version.
Barney's vocals are especially clear on this one.
4:37 Bernard, after singing "He pays pennance to the dirt below him",
then yells "JUST LIKE YOU!" (thanks to Philip Collins for the correction)
5:27 Keyboard swooping whoosh during break in song
5:55 Hooky hits a bum note
You can hear Hooky calling 1-2-3-4 during the pause in that song.
_Procession_ gets exciting...starts off with an off-kilter Hooky riff.
The lyrics start at 1:42.
At 2:08 BS forgets his lyrics and throws in off-key melodica. At about
3:29, Bernard sings something about "bloody cunts"..."bloody, your
prophecies", and screams/drags out "late at night!" and yells out "not
so loud!" and "turn my monitor down", and then starts yelping, at which
point you can hear his mic being dropped.
_Senses_ has its lyrics declaimed at one point, and Bernard hums
along...and then adds additional lyrics not present on studio versions.
Thanks to Jan Bollansee for providing a complete version of this
song to review.
Bernard spends more than a few seconds afterwards tuning his guitar.
_Denial_ doesn't feature much in the way of its normal lyrics, either.
At 2:20 of Denial, Barney sings about how he "just can't take it no
more." (for about 30 seconds). At 4:45, it sounds like he's singing
"inside a club!, inside my world!, inside a ____ ____ club club"
as the song comes abruptly to a halt.
(or is he singing 'pub' instead of 'club'?)
The final song, _Everythings___Gone___Green_ has a very interesting filter
effect that isn't present in later versions...I think it's the same one
present in 'Prime 586' though. The song elements are really isolated,
and I think the instrumental interplay is effective...and there's a
brief tempo speed-up at about 1:35 in. The lyrics, which start at 3:45,
are the typical improvisational ones typical for this period. "Down by
the boardwalk...". Like the yelled out "Help me, somebody help me" at 6:45.
This version ends up being almost 13 minutes.
N.B. Can you all see the progression from the improvised EGG james
("...down by the boardwalk") to Blue Monday? ("..the beach")...?
Everything's Gone Green-->Prime 586-->Blue Monday
Source is from TJ. Fairly hissy source, but better than nothing at
all.
_Chosen___Time_ and _Ceremony_ start things off.
Somebody says something in Finnish.
_Everything's___Gone___Green_
Drums echo to an colossal degree, before Hooky's bass takes over.
That's likely due to the venue acoustics.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Stereo shift at 0:14 or so. Another one at 2:00. This one otherwise
sounds a bit off pitch-wise.
_ICB_ follows. Sound like mic getting bumped at 3:38. Then _Senses_.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Another stereo shift at 0:40.
And then _Denial_.
_Temptation_
The debut, otherwise known as Taboo No. 7.
Several versions.
My first source is a CD from Simon Park. Sounds fairly low-gen (2nd-3rd),
some degree of hiss, but the base recording is very good, nearly as good as
the Walthamstow gig that follows, with definied instrument separation
and not at all boomy. This was also seeded to STG by davemings, as a
M/2 (same source), with his version running a bit faster (too fast)
than Simon's version. Simon's has more "body", I suspect the difference
is in how much NR and cleanup has been done on snotters' source.
Subsequent to these, a M/3 (improved copy) was seeded by davemings,
also the same source, but by far the clearest of them all.
_Temptation_
The second time this is played, the first being 06 SEP 81 at Kulttuuritalo
in Helsinki. As far as I know, this is the only time New Order play
this as an instrumental.
At 0:30 or thereabouts, someone near the taper exclaims that this is a
new one. The tape garbles a bit at about 2:15.
_The___Him_ follows.
During the break, somebody yells what sounds like "Goodnight, Paul!".
Then a cold edit into _Dreams___Never___End_.
Afterwards, there is a gap of a few seconds, filled with audience
members making random utterings, including a male voice saying,
"Sounds good" and then a female voice singing. "Don't do...
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ is next followed by _Procession_.
There's an edit between that and _Senses_. CD tracksplits not
at the start of _Chosen___Time_ but well into the intro.
Right channel cuts out between 1:14-1:20, dunno if it's a problem
with my source or the master. Tape garble at 3:28 and another cut-out
a few seconds later. These aren't present on the davemings updated
copy
They end with _Denial_.
Some punter says, "They did more than one from Movement(?)"
New Order do not interact with the audience at all.
Source is off the master (in .flac format) posted by
the taper ("booomboom") on the sharingthegroove.org
forums. Sound is outstanding, enough to make any
errors in the performance that much audible.
Notes (verbatim from forum)
"taped this show from the first row of the balcony,
the quality is amazing for an audience recording.
Stephen told me after the show, it was much better
to do 40 min of high energy, than to do 120 min of
a boring show , and this show from New Order is pure
energy. Believe me , it's one of the best shows from
1981 ,and I saw a lot of shows from New Order in this
year. Better from the music is the Hamburg Show,
but the quality is only very good from the HH. show.
But Hamburg has the best versions of "Everything`s gone
green " I ever heard."
_Chosen___Time_ has a brief cut 3:10 in.
Opening keyboards to _In___A___Lonely___Place_ are badly off-key.
Somebody hits a bum note at 0:39 of _Dreams___Never___End_.
Hooky sings "make these feelings go away" as the last lines,
which isn't something I've regularly heard for that track.
_Truth_ features an echoed whoop.
At the end of _Procession_, the taper says, "Can you get lost,
'cause we're working 'ere...fookin' hell man. What a fucking
mess."
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ is 10:43, and has a false start
(15 seconds, drums only).
*Very* good guitar work here. One of the best versions of this
track that I've heard.
To quote an article (Avant! Issue #1):
"At Bradford in late '81 a dour Peter Hook confronted the boistorous
audience with the words, 'If you knew what had happened, you wouldn't
be so fucking cheerful." You could have heard a pin drop."
Soundcheck
A minute or so of talking, nothing I can make out. Maybe a reference
to Terry (Mason) in there.
_Chosen___Time_
Fadeout/fadein at 1:40 or so. (on another version, this is a cut)
Vocals somewhat faint.
_Temptation_ follows.
BS: "One two one two". Then follows a tiny bit of _Denial_, before
the tape cuts.
AC1 adds:
"I've just listened to the end of my Bradford 81 tape and there is
(technically) a snippet of 'Little Dead', but it's no more than Steve
doing a couple of drumrolls, un-accompanied. It doesn't cut out - he
just stops playing after a few bars and no one picks it up again. I
wouldn't/didn't bother to list it."
From STG posting by 'snotters':
This gig sees New Order as noise terrorists! Just about everything that
can go wrong, does go wrong here. The first couple of minutes of Hurt
(debuted here at the Ritz) has to do battle with the hapless dj still
playing music over the p.a.! Then the "hum" prevailent throughout a lot
of the gig starts at the beginning of In A Lonely Place - an annoying
hum going through the p.a. which the tape picks up! Barney eventually
suggests to the sound guy to turn off ALL the lights - that seems to do
the trick.
There's a classic Gillian-related blooper - she plays Senses in the
wrong key, for the duration of the entire song!
But in typical New Order style they turn disaster into triumph by
playing what is in my opinion one of THE most powerful live performances
they ever gave, in Everything's Gone Green. Well, a piece of sonic
experimantalism loosely based on Everything's Gone Green, at least. It's
so powerful it hurts!! It thunders along relentlessly for 15 minutes
like a juggernaut - play this one LOUD and see what I mean!
The quality, despite the p.a. problems, is in my view pretty good - on a
par with Hull 82 I would say. Plus this tape has some amusing audience
banter (including some booing at the end of the set - surely a first for
a New Order recording?!).
And craigie* has made a copy of his master available, which is even better
than the Snotters' version.
My notes:
As relayed by 'snotters', you can still here snippets of the PA music
over the intro of Hurt, which is debuted here.
(Snotters) Punters at 1:40:
girl: "I'm cutting now[out?]"
Great improvised melodica, it's jazz-like in feel.
Buzzing really starts up between Hurt and In A Lonely Place.
(Snotters)
guy: "[something] match...drum-fest..."
guy: "background noise in the f..." There's a brief edit in the tape
at 0:29.
The craigie* version has different banter here.
BS: "Maybe it's in the foldback..." Somebody then imitates a radio
dispatcher's distorted muttering. Synth fires off randomly, too.
Incredibly enough, Bernard sings through all the din.
(at the end we have this interesting conversation between the band and
the
PH: "Jon...(?)...Anything like this is with the lights, this happened
on the last one...[muttering, hard-to-decipher]...geez"
(Jon = Jon Hurst?)
BS: "All the hu... the lights can take all the lights out."
BS(?): "I'm real sorry."
PH: "Sorry."
BS: "Try again...it's not going up front."
voice: "No, it's going up front...but there's a bit on the, on this synth
as well...maybe the lights are triggering the synth, being real sensitive."
[presumably the crew handling the lighting rig]
BS: "I'm real sorry about this."
Punter comments, "Like a fucking science class, this is, innit?"
You can hear this on both versions, louder on the Snotters version,
as the person who may have said this may have been very close to the
taper. On the craigie* version, this person sounds a few feet away
to the left.
Dreams Never End
Still more buzzing.
BS: "Just break the lights, Rob, just forget them."
That seems to quiet the buzzing.
(at end)
BS: "Will you turn the back lights up a bit, please."
punter #1 (on both versions, more distant on craigie*): "Wot was that?"
punter #2 (satiated): "That'll do".
Truth
More problems. Gillian fires off the intro sequence to Hurt instead,
and has to switch back to the right one.
Bernard injects a few extra whoops, the antecedent of what is now
a somewhat annoying vocal idiosyncracy of his.
Procession
A bit of guitar tuning before the synth starts in.
punter: "This is the new one".
lyrics: "Hits me where it hurts me, hits me where it hurts me, so
hard."
Boing effects, and more tuning.
Senses
As reported, Gillian's synth bit is completely off.
Yet more tuning, and a brief edit between tracks.
Chosen Time
And still more tuning after this one. Punter says "Ceremony", but
instead gets the pounding drums of Denial. The synths go out of
tune again for a bit.
Unique bass-and-drums ending, very nice!
Everythings Gone Green
This version is almost sixteen minutes long, and has a popping/gurgling
bass sequencer effect I've not heard elsewhere.
(Snotters)
Very good punishing, aggressive version.
punter (at 13:54): "I want that...[mumble}"
Most people cheer, but somebody very close to the taper (if not the
taper himself) emits a loud "Boo". Not sure if this is heartfelt or
not. Music comes over the PA just as the tape fades out on Snotters'
version, where craigie*'s version fades out right before that.
Sound quality is very good, though levels vary throughout.
Venue mix a bit problematic during the early part of this
gig.
New Order come out to a reggae tune.
PH: "I believe we're a little bit late."
Taper adjusts his kit right before the Order start into
_The___Him_.
Extreme synths effects at the end of _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
Punter shouts out for _Everythings___Gone___Green_, and
wouldn't you know it, he guesses right?
Muffling that affected the first three tracks clears
up about a minute into this song.
_Temptation_
Bernard goes into a bit more detail here.
lyrics: "Up down turn around, anywhere you wanna go."
Lots of good improvisational guitar work, one of the
best early versions of this song I've heard, helped
out by the excellent sound quality.
Cut at the 10:00 mark, probably A/B tape flip.
Audience master copy of JM's tape. There's a different version
taped by JJ that has no cut in Senses and a complete version of
Denial, and seems to have a bit better fidelity...but the taper
pauses after nearly every track, and it's missing the bulk of
EGG.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Bernard's vocals cut out after the first line.
The sound is a bit of a mess here.
_Chosen___Time_
Stephen's kick drum at various points dominates the mix...they sound
out of sync here. (JM version)
_Dreams___Never___End_
PH: "One two, can we have some foldback on this? One two, one two."
Somebody can be heard to comment on JM version: "Fucking hum...can't
get rid of that."
There's been a bit of hum running througout up to this point, you see.
PH: "One two...one two."
_Dreams___Never___End_
Punter yells "Fuck you!" really loudly. Why?
The Order tune a bit after this one, and things get a whole lot
better.
_Hurt_
This is an instrumental version, only the second time they've ever
played it. Excellent melodica work.
Squealing tape pause. (JM version)
_ICB_
The best version of this I've ever heard.
_Senses_
Cut at about 3:07...faded out. Second part of the song is 1:51 in
length. Unique guitar-ending...and then a bit of Hooky playing the
_Ceremony_ bass longer than normal. (JM version, the JJ version is
uncut)
_Ceremony_
Barney's singing here is completely and utterly out of tune.
_Denial_
A short version, less than 3 minutes. The JM version is cut.
The JJ version is complete, which turns out to be quite a treat
here.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "Sorry it's not quite what we expected. I don't know it[?]"
People around the taper ask what he said, "I don't know, I heard sorry
but I didn't hear anything after that."
Brief cut at 5:38.
Comment at end of JM version, "It was amazing."
Not sure if this is a copy of audience master from JM, as there's
a bit more hiss on the source than on the Market St. gig (maybe it
was recorded at a quieter level), and it doesn't sound as dynamic,
which could be chalked to venue acoustics. It's a better performance,
though...except for Dreams Never End, which is pretty awful here.
Some of the songs appear on the 'Isolation' bootleg, the excerpt
pertaining to it is the following:
Side 2 is New Order recorded on a bad day on a date I can only guess to
be late 1980 or perhaps most probably early 1981. Sound quality is about VG."
Side 2 : Dreams Never End, Denial, Senses, and Ceremony
This is a shitty release. The Joy Division songs have all been on record
before. And the New Order songs should not have been on record. Especially
Dreams Never End is so bad you will not believe it.
Totally worthles, stay clear.
Writeup
_Hurt_
Third time played, also an instrumental.
Taper misses the intro part. Tape garbles between 1:20 - 1:23.
_Chosen___Time_
Tape squels as it's restarted.
_Procession_ follows.
Somebody close to the taper mutters at about 1:57 or so.
Garble at 2:25. Fairly clean edit at end.
_Truth_ and _Senses_ follow.
Squeal edit between these two. At the end of Senses:
BS: "Let's see, I'm not getting any vocal through the foldback,
[name]"
Tape squeal edit. Some tuning (tape garbles a bit here), and
another squeal edit, missing the very first part of the next number,
_Dreams___Never___End_.
A bit of tape trouble starting at 1:45.
Another tape edit between this one and _Denial_.
A bit of talking starting at 2:45.
Two squeal edits before the start of _Ceremony_.
Stop/restart edit, rather than a squeal.
_Temptation_ closes out the set, but cuts after about eight minutes.
lyric: "Three and four make seven."
Otherwise, it has the usual improvisations for this number. Excellent
guitar work by Bernard!
A couple of drop outs (like the mic plug was getting pulled out)
at about 3:30. Drop out at 6:03 as well. Some more audience chatter
can be heard at 6:20.
And this one, at about 7:00 in.
lyric: "Oh it's so bad, Oh it's so bad, Oh, it's just me, oh it's just me!
Here today, Here today".
A shame that this cuts out at 8:06!
Sound is clear, if a few generations away from the master
and a bit boomy/clipped. Have a better M/2 version from
TJ
Right channel cuts out for a bit after _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
(original version, not a problem with the TJ version)
A bit of a feedback squall before _Dreams___Never___End_.
_Chosen___Time_ on the TJ version has a phase shift at about
3:36 or so.
_ICB_
On the TJ version, the phase shifts back at 1:07 or so.
This happens again at 3:07, and switches back at the end of
this track.
Edit between ICB and _Senses_, as well as one between
Senses and _Ceremony_.
There's a bit of warbliness on the TJ source on that track at
the start (probably due to his source tape). This isn't present
on the older version, so it's probably not a defect on the master.
There's also a volume drop at somewhat past the 2:00 point, and
a brief dropout (3:50 with TJ and 3:44 with the old version)
present in both versions.
A tremendous amount of reverb on Bernard's vocals in _Denial_.
_Temptation_ is nine minutes long, and is similar to the version
that made it to the FAC71 video. Some interesting guitar work
here.
The TJ version has a pop at about 0:57 that the original version
doesn't have, and also seems to have more tape stability issues,
though better definition that the Nth gen older version.
New Order do not talk to the audience at all, by the way.
Source is a second generation tape from TMK.
_The___Him_
String scraping during the break in this song.
Afterwards, some concertgoer yells, "Turn up the bass!"
Others comment, "Mix up the voice" and "...it's a six-string."
_Chosen___Time_
Bernard's vocals are really good here!
If this is the sound of a band falling apart, all bands should
fall apart more often.
The group tune up a bit after.
_Ceremony_
Vocals are low in the mix, which is why fans yell, "turn up the
vocals", and "check the mic" at the end.
_Truth_
Mic gets bumped at the start.
Snotters says that the drum machine to Truth famously stops for a
few beats before someone starts it again, mid-song, which it indeed
does, at 2:21.
Ends on Hooky playing a four-note bass melody.
_Senses_
lyric: "..like the ocean...see the angels above me..."
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
A bit of a different intro, lots of syncopated synth here.
_Dreams___Never___End_ follows.
_Denial_
The vocals have been turned up by this point.
_Hurt_
An instrumental version (4th time it is played) wraps up the
set. The band have not spoken one word to the audience.
Source: MP3s pulled from Soulseek, with heavy noise reduction applied.
_Ceremony_
At 1:10, Hooky addresses the crowd, tellim them to move back. Can't
make out exact wording. There's a skip about 4:00 in.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Skip about 8 seconds in (more likely), or (less likely) Hooky blows the
bass line. Bernard says something about "...a bit of nostalga for
punk..."
_The___Him_
Skip at 1:10
_Truth_
The intro to this one's a bit different than normal.
There's an interpolation in the first verse.
At about 2:30, I swear I hear Bernard singing about "such a strange
pair of legs".
An unusually good version of _ICB_.
_Chosen___Time_
At about 2:10 Bernard screams "YOU GOT A FRIEND..."
We go up in down
_Denial_
Intro (before vocals) is 1:35 in length.
Sounds 19 Nov 81
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM12-81live.htm
NOTES
Tim Sommer later became an MTV VJ (Postmodern MTV
in the late 80s) and was the bassist in Hugo Largo.
I remember watching an episode where he highly
complimented the band's early sound, as you will see
when you read the article. He was not so sanguine
as to New Order's later (synthesised) direction.
Meanwhile, here's another review of the same gig.
I'm amazed I haven't transcribed this, as it is readily
available.
Date: Tue Mar 20 12:44:16 1990
Hi Again!
I was rummaging through some trash I've collected over the years
and came across some copies of some underground magazines from
New York circa 1980-1982. Since the Taras Shevchenko (sp?) video has
been mentioned a bit lately I thought I'd type in a review from that
gig. The magazine was called "Non LP B Side". I've collected almost every
issue published. It started out free and ended up costing 75 cents.
If anyone has any copies which they're tired of, mail me, maybe we can
work out a trade! Ed
NEW ORDER Nov. 19, 1981
Walking down St. Mark's familiar path, droplets pissing down,
droves of dark overcoated souls seemed drawn to some unknown
destination. What could have been driving these purposeful people
in this strange almost mystic way? NEW ORDER UKRAINIAN HALL
THURSDAY NIGHT. What were we looking for? The answer to some rhetorical
question, a message from the dead, or maybe just a good gig. I'd
seen them before, a disgruntled gloomy lot, and I felt an intruder to
their private misery, but this was different. An unfamiliar venue,
the Ukraine seldom sees conventional "rock" gigs, and will surely
not see another like this one. Due to Chase Parks' untimely closing
Factory Records (Michael Shamburg) and Ruth Polski were forced to find
an alternate venue for New Order. At the last moment they brought in
full lighting, video and a sound system capable of making a 24 track
recording of the event. The sound was wonderful in light of the haste,
with minimal feed-back and sputtering, the lighting was eerie and
yellowish. The D.J. set the atmosphere nicely by kindly omitting
all those songs we are conditioned to hearing in clubs, no one
danced, the air was full of anticipation.
Ike Yard, a recent Factory signing was first up. I'm afraid they
are much better on record, as they left a few unprofessionally long
gaps between songs, and seemed to have some difficulties. They were,
however, interesting, and I'm sure they'll be better after live practice.
Finally New Order took the stage and all stretched to see their faces.
Most striking was Gillian Gilbert, with her white face and burgundy hair.
She spent most of the evening crouched over her synthesizer or
intently watching the fingerboard of her guitar. It seems that New Order's
idea of stage presence is none at all. It is the music that is important,
not the posture. Bernard Albrecht did most of the vocals, and provided
the melodies with his careful guitar. He was as intense as ever, seeming
ill at ease and earnest at once.
The set was perfect, sublime, uplifting. It is hard to remember
which songs came when, though I do remember, "Procession" blending
into "Ceremony" was beautiful. They did a lot of material from the new
album MOVEMENTS [sic]. "Dreams Never End", sung by Peter Hook was
especially moving. The last song, and toure de force was definitely
"Temptation", which will probably be the next single. Bernard was
left singing and staring Heaven-ward, hopefully. This was not the New
Order I remembered, there was no gloom. They did not seem to conjure
Ian's ghost. This New Order was a complete unit with powerful ideas
and music of their own.
The show left me jubilant, joyful, like a weight removed
from my shoulder. New Order will mourn no more. They have come to grips
with the present and the music will [win] out. I have, the answer to my
question; Life goes on.
Dec Hickey's fabulous 'From Heaven To Heaven' quotes the following setlist
for this show:
The Him
There's a high pitched whine throughout on my source.
Probably one of the poorest-quality I have. Luckily, an upgrade
surfaced that has none of the defects detailed below
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Feedback during the first bit.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Somebody calls out "Warsaw" beforehand.
_Chosen___Time_
Bernard's vocals are higher in pitch at the start, and there's also
a bit of feedback here.
_ICB_
A bit of a strange version, with a very spare feel, and an insistent
drum pattern.
_Senses_
Band tune up. Same guy calls for Warsaw again. Sound on this one
is extremely loud, distorting on the tape. Also some glitches with
the way this plays back on CD.
_Denial_ is similarly distorted, as well as the rest of the songs here.
Short version of _Everythings___Gone___Green_.
_Hurt_ follows. Sounds like an instrumental.
Segues into _Temptation_, performed in the same way as on other
US '81 gigs.
My copy of the aired tracks is a flickery PAL->NTSC dub.
I've also obtained a version that has about 20 minutes of soundchecks
(which sound a bit different EQ-wise than the rest of the tracks)
in the following sequence:
"Now they're stalling, they're not automatic."
"It's not, erm, what we really want." (not sure on wording)
"Basically, it's just New Order, it's just us basically."
And another sentence I can't make out.
BS: "Ozzie, if you can, eh, would you turn the hi-hat off the drum machine
So...[rest of this sentence is obscured by instruments playing, last part
could be:]...drum and the bass over..."
4. Temptation (synth) t3 0:20
Then the "gig" proper, with the following tracklist. Only the first two
were aired:
_Temptation_
Barney makes a "shhh" sound after the first verse of Temptation.
He also sings, "I've never met anyone as drunk as you before",
I think. End cuts abruptly, next track is (quickly) faded in, which
is true for the rest of the tracks in question.
_Chosen___Time_
_Procession_
_Hurt_
Short (3:41) version.
_Senses_
_Denial_
Tribal-style drumming intro.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
My copy only has about half a second of IALP before cutting, but
then is faded up again and continues.
Melody Maker 30 Jan 82
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM1-82live.htm
NOTES
Article focuses on the emerging "dance" aspect of
the music. In retrospect, insightful.
Have audio that purports to be from this concert, which was
tacked at the end of the the 'Riverside' 1982-01-04 tracks.
The edits are very similar to the ones done for the unaired 'Riverside'
tracks, the sound is very similar, so likely done with the same
equipment.
_Dreams___Never___End_ is listed first for this gig, but may or may
not be present on the recording I have, as there's some question to
whether the DNE belongs to the Riverside performance or this one, since
the source I have of these has these gigs back to back. However, TJ
pretty much settled this and DNE does appear in fact to be the first
song.
_Denial_
_Truth_
Cut at 0:03, with the rest faded in.
_Hurt_
Hooky flubs the bass intro.
Cut at 1:57, with the remainder faded in.
At about 2:49 Bernard yells "Shut up!" and whoops.
_Procession_
Cuts at 2:06 and sixteen seconds later, with the remainder
portions faded in.
_Ceremony_
Cuts at 0:40 and two seconds later, with the remainder portions
faded in. Cuts after about 75 seconds.
_Temptation_ appears on the setlist but not on what I have for the gig.
However, it was soundchecked, with the version appearing being about
1:30 long. There's some talking, mentioning the TV...and some guitar
chords, followed by Hooky's bass.
A brief take of _Hurt_ follows, someone calls out Hooky's name, and
then Hooky's bass makes an appearance, but the tape is cut during his
vamping.
Bernard's vocals on _Temptation_ seem pretty naked.
_Denial_
Taper goes "Hooray", and starts tsh-tshing to the drums.
Somebody calls "C'mon Ray...c'mon, c'mon now".
_Chosen___Time_ follows. Ends in shooting noises.
_ICB_ is next.
_Senses_ and _Dreams___Never___End_ follow.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Cut after this one.
_Ceremony_
This sounds like the version that inspired Xiu Xiu's cover
version, as it has Bernard singing all over the place and
just the hint of xylophones.
Copy courtesy of Snotters, erm...IP Freely.
_Temptation_
A tiny bit of garbling at the beginning.
Punter says something at 3:12 or thereabouts.
_Ceremony_
IP Freely states:
"Noteable for one of Hooky's greatest clangers - check out his playing on
Ceremony! Cringeworthy!!"
I personally disagree with this assessment. Hooky was just playing it
differently that time.
A bit of tuning up before _Chosen___Time_ is tackled.
_Truth_ follows.
_Hurt_
Lots of knocking sounds by the syndrums.
Barney repeats a line with "if you want" or somesuch in it.
_Senses_ follows. Some audience chatter afterwards, as well
as feedback squall.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
The debut of this song!
Lyrics are totally different than the release
"Wherever he goes, nobody knows...
The "thousand islands in the sea" line is still present though.
_Denial_
The drums thunder...
At the end, somebody calls for "Procession".
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Amazing aggro-electro opening!
And it doesn't let up.
New Order say not a word throughout.
Soundcheck
About a minute of _Hurt_ at the start, followed by a brief foray
by Hooky into the bassline of _Transmission_.
A bit of Hooky playing _From___Safety___To___Where_ bassline,
and then a lot of one two'ing. Followed by a long and then
short runthrough of _Temptation_, starting with an odd juxtaposition
of LWTUA's bassline.
_Leave___Me___Alone_ (bass and guitar, and then instrumental)
follows. This was the song's debut performance, and it sounds
like the band were still practicing it. Unfortunately, the
tape cuts at about a minute and a half...but a longer version
is said to exist.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
First part is cut.
_Unknown____Instrumental_
I think this is a primitive of "When I'm With You"!
Barney tunes his guitar before starting.
_Ultraviolence_
The debut performance.
lyric: "Who killed my father?"
_Denial_
A bit of feedback afterwards.
_Ceremony_
(after)
An announcement:
"Move back a bit - you're pushing the stage forward. Move back.
I don't mind you hurting yourselves, but don't hurt the equipment".
It's not Barney speaking, think it was Oz (from the soundcrew).
Thanks to "Josef K" for the correction.
Some feedback and a bit more clamour before the Order play their
next song, _In___A___Lonely___Place_.
Gillian inadvertently plays a note at 1:12.
_Hurt_ builds up slowly.
_Procession_ follows.
Gap in source between 4:01 and 4:03 (repeated segment probably
done for A/B split), unique to the source used for this writeup.
_Dreams___Never___End_ next.
Edit in tape.
Some talking off-mic that I can't make out, and then another edit
before the final song, _Temptation_.
Perhaps the worst New Order audience recording I've ever heard.
_Hurt_ is barely recognizable as such.
_The___Him_ is marred by the taper (or someone near him) shouting.
Settles down a bit for the rest, but really not very listenable.
_In___A___Lonely____Place_ has Bernard screaming "How I wish you
were here with me now".
Source is a C90 in my collection. Sound is pretty dire, very boomy with
lots of hiss...which I imagine is a problem with the actual recording.
A much better source was posted by 'tock' on DIME in April 2006, likely
taped by "UK1".
Tracklisting:
Ultraviolence, The Him, Procession, Chosen Time, Dreams Never End,
Senses, Temptation, Ceremony
Soundcheck (10 minutes): Leave Me Alone, Ultraviolence
The copy I have doesn't include this, but a subsequent one that's surfaced
reveals that the drumming way off beat for LMA, very uncharacteristic...
however it comes together once Bernard's guitar comes in. LMA wasn't
performed during the gig for some reason, as it was debuted in Bristol
but wouldn't be played again until 11 Mar 82.
_Ultraviolence_
Third time NO played this song. Opening line is "Who killed the darkness?"
_The___Him_
Lots and lots of feedback in the second and third minutes of this song.
_Procession_
On the 'tock' version, taper 'heys' in approval when he hears the synth
intro.
_Chosen___Time_
Taper or someone by him hums along. ('tock' version)
Short break between this and the next song.
_Dreams___Never___End_
The sound seems to have gotten better, though it's nowhere near good.
Another short, but slightly longer, break between this and the next
song.
_Senses_
Some instrument tuning/scales. Gets a healthy round of applause.
_Temptation_
Has someone going "da da da da da da"...
_Ceremony_
Starts off with a couple of bass notes and a healthy dose of cheers
both at the start and at the end, which is also accompanied by clapping
stamping, and cries for more.
'fdisk' writes
March 10th 1982 at Hull Tower Cinema, they did a 25 minute version of
Ultraviolence as an encore(following a set just over the same length).
One-by-one they disappeared (as did the audience)until there was nothing
left but the drum machine - my how we laughed. At the end there were
about 10 people left, despite this I thought they were awesome.
The local press, however, (I must scan this sometime from my yellowing
page of the Hull Daily Mail) wrote it up with the heading 'Group's
unique encore no joke for fans', described them as 'self-important',
'bleak' 'pretentious, noisy and generally boring', 'bleak [again] loud
and depressing'.... finishing with 'some joke'.
My kind of band.
Have this on C90 (sounding about 3rd-4th generation) and from 'snotters'
via STG (2nd generation).
Transcription
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ has a punter comment "Fookin' hell" at
about 3:27.
_Chosen___Time_ is next.
Somebody mentions Denial.
_Truth_ and _ICB_ are played.
A bit of a soundcheck and some souting out, 'Ceremony' being called out.
Taper or someone close to him says something like "Party all 'round".
We get _Dreams___Never___End_ instead.
_Hurt_
A bit of loud screaming between DME and this one, and someone near the
taper addresses Eddie at the mixing desk. The band had still not said a word.
Crash edit in the tape between this one and the next tune, it sounds like.
_Denial_ follows. Folks cheer for "more" and start stamping when it's
over.
Another edit in the tape, when it starts up again, it's with
_Ultraviolence_ in progress. The version of it here is only 20:06,
unlike the description above. It's the second time this is played.
No mention of "I killed my father".
Have a couple copies of this, the best one being Snotters' M/2
that was seeded to STG in mid-2004. Both of these are from the
same master. A different recording, this time from KL, turned
up recently.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_, _Chosen___Time_, and _Denial_ start
out the set.
The KL version has some fan chatter during the first song, more
than the others.
Somebody explains "Jesus" at the end of Denial (Snotters). The opening
sequencer bit to _Ultraviolence_ is aired out a couple of times before
the song kicks into gear. To these ears, it sounds a lot like Video 586.
Features the "Who killed my father" lyrics and Barney cooing.
Then he sings "Who killed the Irish?".
A bit of a stutter 5:23 on the KL source (source tape glitch).
_Senses_ follows.
If you listen closely at about 0:10 of KL's version you can hear the
sound of a cash register!
Edit point (A/B) between this and the next one.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
Second performance. The intro guitar work is very, very good.
This is an amazing rendition, with very different lyrics than
what was released. Don't think they every topped this.
Cut in KL version at 5:30.
_Hurt_
Another one that takes a bit of time to start up, the intro is
played in a similar matter to "Ultraviolence". Somebody yells
out, "What's going on?" (Snotters).
Some audience chatter at 0:50 of this. Drop out at 1:08-1:10.
(Snotters version)
This version has a unique orchestral-sounding synth line (can
be heard about 6:10 in).
Edit in KL version between _Procession_ and _Temptation_, which
it has in reversed order.
The version of the former on KL's is muffled, according to him
it was problems in the source, including a dropout 3:18 in.
Source courtesy of TJ.
From http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038731&m=1124085831
"Vinz" reports:
"Utrecht: short and rather aggressive. Peter had been in a fight with
audience members the day before in Rotterdam at the Glazen Zaal after
complaints of the length of the show (30-minus minutes)."
Considering this happened nearly 20 years ago, he can be excused
for a bit of chronological inaccuracy...Uterect was on 11 APR 82,
and there were two gigs in between.
This is backed up by the following comment made during the 17 MAY 84
Paradiso gig, from "Jon ten Have":
...reminded them of the Rotterdam gig some years before when a big fight
broke out after they had only played 20 minutes. The encore included
Decades and Love will ..., it was made clear to the audience that it
wasn't for them but for a friend who died some years ago."
_Ultraviolence_
A bit of chatter (in English, I think) at the start.
At about 3:15, somebody says "...get round the back...about the spot...
don't you? etc.".
_Chosen___Time_
Feedback squall at 0:42 or so.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Tempo starts out slow but speeds up after a few seconds.
_Senses_
Feedback squall about 45 seconds in.
_Denial_
(afterwards)
Some chatter from people, low in volume.
Taper: "One of my fucking knobs has just dropped off."
Associate: "Oh my God!" (probably as a jibe)
There's a bit more muttering, with somebody saying something,
someone else replying "Eh?", and the first person repeating it.
_Temptation_ closes out the set, which the crowd judges as having
been all too brief, as you can hear boos as the PA backing music
comes back on.
Source courtesy of TJ.
_Ceremony_
A couple of mic placement/stereo fields shift during the intro.
Vocals and bass ganged up on the right channel
An edit during the clapping, and Barney picks his guitar before
the start of _The___Him_.
A few more 'slow' stereo shifts through the first part of this
song.
_Denial_
Barney tunes up, and then you can hear the sound of something
(I don't know what) getting dropped. A small cut about 30 seconds
into this song.
A good sized break before the Order play _Temptation_. Garble
in tape where Bernard sings, "A feeling inside, it's no joke."
Another garble when Barney sings, "Oh you got green eyes...".
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ follows. The tape appearently has
a few garbles and cuts in it here.
Cut between IALP and the next song, Ultraviolence, which has
a couple of fits and starts before the band actually play it
through. And a few more garbles/cuts/stereo shifts.
_Chosen___Time_ and _Procession_ follow, with _Hurt_ closing
out the set. Not a single word from the band throughout.
Fairly good sounding tape. Probably a few generations off master,
though. The last set with all Movement-era songs the band were to
play.
New Order open the set with _ICB_.
Next up is _Procession_. A bit of audience chatter at the start
(in Dutch of course).
_Dreams___Never___End_ follows.
Near silence afterwards for a few seconds until the drum machine
for _Truth_ fires up.
Dutch bird talks between tracks.
The sequencer for _Hurt_ mysteriously speeds up and slows down
during the intro.
_Senses_ and then _Chosen___Time_ follow, with _Denial_ being the
penultimate track.
A bit of feedback during parts of _Temptation_.
Dropout at 6:13.
Description by Jan Bollansee:
"The penultimate show of the 5-date Dutch tour in April 1982, captured by
at least two tapers. Tracks 1-3 are from an audience recording that
starts out as a 7+ but improves to 8+ by Ceremony. From track 4 onwards,
the source is a superior audience recording that unfortunately cuts in
during the intro to Dreams Never End; presumably this taper arrived a
little late at the venue? Anyway, our favourite taciturn band delivers
(races through) another great performance, including an early rendition
of Leave Me Alone and a 15-minute exploration of 'Cramp'. Check it out!
This recording, another low-gen gem, once more comes courtesy of TJ. No
recording seems to circulate of the last night in Holland, on the 12th
of April at the Staargebouw in Maastricht, so it's off to Belgium after
this!"
_Ultraviolence_
False start at beginning.
Band tune up afterwards, and you can hear someone loudly talking at
the start of _The___Him_.
Something rare, a drum misfire by Morris at about 3:10.
Song concludes with Hooky's bass, and more tuning, a small edit,
and then yet more tuning.
_Ceremony_ follows.
Different source used for _Dreams___Never___End_, which is cut.
_Senses_ follows on the heels of DNE.
Hooky tunes at the end of this song.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
Bass solo starts out a bit shaky, and a bit in the wrong key.
But otherwise, a solid rendition.
_Denial_ and _Everythings___Gone___Green_ follow.
Then follows a fourteen-and-a-half workout called _Hurt_ to close
things out.
Description by Jan Bollansee:
"The first of two consecutive nights in Belgium, after the 5-date Dutch tour.
The Lido club being an acoustic hell, this is far from a clear audience recording -
though another low-gen tape from the cornucopia otherwise known as TJ's vault,
this is easily the poorest of the extant tapes of the entire European Spring
tour of '82. Still, it has its worth as this gig saw the debut performance of
'The Village'. Unfortunately, the encore of Temptation & Ultraviolence is missing.
_Hurt_
Bit of a strange intro to this. Recording starts in progress...into what
ends up being a false start.
The next three songs are played straight through.
Debut of _The___Village_.
Cut between _Dreams___Never___End_ and _Senses_.
First source was a set of MP3 files downloaded from the net,
which may have originated from a vinyl LP, though it's
hard to tell since there's very few (if any) pops or
crackles.
Snotters then posted these to STG, from a 2nd gen tape,
likely the same source as the above.
This is a superb performance.
_We___All___Stand_
The debut performance. I suspect they never topped it.
Extraordinarily good instrumentation here, especially
the interplay between guitar and bass, helped by the
reverb.
v1 notes:
"It is absolutely fantastic, some of New Order's best ever guitar
interplaying as well, all those descending chord configurations.
"Searching for the darkness,
'Rock The Casbah' this is not.
About 25 seconds of silence where the fans chatter in
their native tongue.
_Ceremony_ has a punter (in the audience, left channel)
singing the lyrics along with Bernard, but because Sumner's
vocals don't come in immediately, the punter sounds like
he's doing very quiet backing vox. Brief drop at about
2:35.
Some talking during the intro of _Dreams___Never___End_.
_Hurt_ features a chattery keyboard line.
_The___Him_ follows.
_Ultraviolence_ is faded in, and there's a bit of mic scuffling
in the first few seconds. The programmed synth sounds a lot like
586's. This is another "Who killed my father?" variation.
At some point I should write up the lyrics for this version.
Another longish-gap between _Chosen___Time_ and _Senses_ filled
with ponging synthetics.
Somebody calls out "All right" at the start of
_Everythings___Gone___Green. Different stuttering synths at the
4:30ish mark. Brief dropouts at 8:20 or so.
The levels drop a bit during _Temptation_. The echo at the end
sounds artifically induced, whatever that means.
Have this on CD courtesy of Brian G. Sound quality is outstanding,
as the source is an FM broadcast, easily equalling or surpassing
Taras. Even better is a version provided by TS.
The setlist given by Waterrat was as follows:
Temptation, Chosen Time, Truth, Hurt, In A Lonely Place, The Village,
Denial, Procession, Ceremony
However, it seems that at least some FM copies of the gig, have has
IALP as the first tune, not the fifth. There are edits between
most, if not all, of the FM songs, so it's hard to tell sequencing.
TJ reports that the audience copy has IALP between Hurt and The Village.
The audience version naturally does not feature breaks or gaps between
tracks. However, he later realized that his copy did have the last
20 seconds of IALP at the beginning, so it *is* indeed the first song
of the set.
So the proper setlist is:
In A Lonely Place, Temptation, Chosen Time, Truth, Hurt,
The Village, Denial, Procession, Ceremony
The version of this performance on the New Order Anthologies
has Truth and Hurt's titles mixed up. The songs are in
the exact same order as the original Waterrat listing.
The sixth song in my CD is "Leave Me Alone", but this sounds like
it was taken from an LP, with crackling, so this is likely an
interpolation from an unknown performance. Likewise with
the last song, which is ICB, and a cracking version too.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Bernard includes an additional verse with the last two lines the
same as "the hangman..." verse, but with the first two lines as
follows:
"A light that shines down from above/A light that is guided by love"
_Temptation_
Like the previous song, the vocals aren't turned up until the
second line.
_Truth_
The drum machine seems to have a mind of its own during the intro.
Outro transition between this and the next song is a bit rough, perhaps
to edit out the broadcaster.
_Hurt_
Hooky plays a somewhat different riff starting at 1:58. This version
goes past 2:30 before Bernard starts vocals. There's some volume
fluctuations on the TS version at about 1:30.
This live version, like some others includes the "Let me take you...
anywhere you want." lyric. Drum break at about 4:30-ish.
_The___Village_
Second time ever that this song is played live.
Hooky says something in the first few seconds that I can't make out.
Bass synth riff slightly different than on PCL.
Significant difference in lyrics as well, with the following highlights:
"Our love is like the flowers, the trees, the birds and the sea"
"Our love is like death on ice and our love cease to be"
Song is greeted to more applause than any other song to this point.
_Denial_
The intro blazes, and the pace doesn't let up. Outstanding.
Even more applause.
_Procession_
High pitched bass pluck at 0:10 in. Another fast one. Song ends with
synth wash and guitar.
_Ceremony_
Wow, this is the fastest I've ever heard the Order perform this one.
Here follow notes on the songs that I believe are interpolations.
_Leave Me Alone_
Definitely sourced from elsewhere, due to the increase in surface noise
consistent with an LP dub. Barney's opening riff is slightly off.
Vocals start at 1:23.
_ICB_
Very bass/drum-dominated mix, with some amp buzzing. This one sounds
more closely in line with the Paris gig, but the vocals sound different,
more consistent with his later style.
Fairly good-sounding audience version.
A bum note during the intro to _Ceremony_, not that easy to
spot. _The___Him_ follows. A bit of tuning between this one
and _Denial_...or is it Chosen Time, since Barney mistakenly
plays the opening riff to that song...
Some punter chatter before the start of _Temptation_. It's
in Dutch, so not much chance of a transcription.
"Woo, woo, woo, woo" at the end I *do* understand.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ follows.
A couple of pauses during the intro bits to _Ultraviolence_.
This version bass synth sounds similar to the one on "Video 586".
_Chosen___Time_ and _Procession_ follow. Some more tuning after
that track, and then an edit.
_Hurt_ rounds out the set.
There's a dropout at 5:37, with the sound coming back at a lower
volume. The ending to this is quite interesting. Folks clap and
whistle as this fades out.
Thanks to Jan Bollansee for clarifying some of the confusion
regarding the sources available for this gig.
Have a tape that appears to be a dub from a boot CD labelled
"Dreams Never End". However, this isn't the 3xLP of a couple
of their '81 German gigs, but something completely different.
Jan says that this issue (11 tracks) was done by the same people
who released the 'Dead Bodies Can't Sing' and 'Ceremony' bootleg
CDs, all of which were just sourced from prior bootleg LPs.
Here's the songlist of the DNE CD:
Ultraviolence
Here's what I had originally written:
The first 5 songs are exactly the same as Pennies, Norwich 24 May 82,
but the sequence of the last six songs don't match anything else
listed.
Now, the only England '82 gig listed which doesn't have a track listing
is Kilburn National Ballroom, London 05 May 82. What's weird is
that Kilburn is listed again as having happened on 25 MAY 82.
I now believe that the 05 MAY 82 entry for Kilburn is probably bogus.
The other tracks (thanks to Waterrat's documentation) are taken from
the 21 JUN 82 Palasport Italy (586/Denial/Dreams Never End) and
19 SEP 82 Athens performance (Truth/Senses/Temptation). [this
assumption is likely incorrect]
Actually, I have another tape of this gig, also taken from LP which has
the same running order up to Hurt (as well as the fade) but then
586, Denial, and Everything's Gone Green. I haven't verified whether
586 and Denial are the same Palasport tracks as the DNE/England 82
boot, and I have no idea where EGG comes from.
Jan comments:
"As it happens, the first seven tracks of the 'DNE' CD come straight from
the 'Long Farewell to Your Soul' bootleg (including the faded-out 'Hurt',
which is at the end of side one of the LP). The four remaining tracks are
from another vinyl bootleg I have, which documents the Florence '82 gig
(and not Bologna & Athens, as you presume).
Then, you turn to a 'different' source for Norwich, from 'another'
bootleg LP. In that instance, you actually give a complete description
of the 'Long Farewell' LP, which closes with Denial, Grace Jones' Walking
In The Rain and then the final encore of 'Everything's Gone Green'. I
suspect that the latter track wasn't copied onto the 'DNE' CD because
the intro is pretty garbled at the point where Bernard comes in on the
guitar."
Of course, if you go by the labels listed on the cover, and by
extention, on the WiM site:
http://www.worldinmotion.net/neworder/discography/bootlegslp&cd/mn/norwich82.htm
http://www.worldinmotion.net/neworder/discography/bootlegslp&cd/op/procession.htm
...you'd be fooled into thinking those tracks appeared on and/or in the
order actually plated. Jan again:
"I've finally done the proper thing and taken out the vinyl bootleg.
Presto, the mystery is solved: the tracklisting on the back cover says
"Denial/EGG/We All Stand" (see scan), but I can definitely, 100%
guarantee that that is not what is on the disc. It's just another
case of bootleggers messing up the tracklisting on their product.
The fact that the 'Procession' 2xLP lists the same sequence only
goes to show that it is based on the "ALFTYS" set (as well as another
83 show). Oh, and now we also know that David Sultan doesn't listen
to his bootlegs ;-) ."
And TJ digs out his audience tape copy and sees the setlist is
actually:
Ultraviolence/Procession/ICB/Chosen Time/Hurt/Denial/EGG/We All
Stand//586
I'm inclinded to believe this was the actual setlist. And this
has been confirmed. I'm not sure if TJ's audience copy is the
same source as the bootleg...
_Ultraviolence_
Sequencer pattern is similar to Prime 586. There's a bit of a guitar
solo in this one too.
lyric: "Hit me hard..."
_Procession_ follows.
After _ICB_, fan yells out something loudly, which I can't make out.
A bit of chatter during the _Hurt_ intro, after which somebody cheers.
Mostly consisting of a female saying "No".
After all these years, the missing _We___All___Stand_ has surfaced.
Quite an interesting exploration. Maybe not appreciated by the
bloke who yelled out "Wake up, you bastards!"
The gig ends with the debut of _586_. The knowledgable among New Order
fanatics say that the best live performance of any of their songs is
typically their first.
Certainly a case can be made for this version.
And this tidbit from Jan Bollansee:
"I always find it fascinating to hear which songs were played before
and after gigs... adds a lot to the atmosphere! Like Grace Jones' Walking
In The Rain being played right after the debut performance of 586 in
Norwich."
Soundcheck
_The___Passenger_
Bernard's playing the chords of the Iggy Pop tune, as one of the punters
comments.
There's some talking as Hooky plays the bassline to _586_ and
_From___Safety___To___Where_. Followed by a full _586_ take,
and then a bit of _The___Village_ bass and a touch of melodica,
as well has _Hooky_ 1-2'ing.
Two takes of _Hurt_ follow this, the second featuring the bassline
to _Cries___And___Whispers.
Then you can hear a lady's voice at the end.
Melody Maker 5 Jun 82
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM6-82live.htm
NOTES
Positive review, however the reviewer wasn't all that
excited about New Order's jam with 52nd Street 30
minutes after their proper set.
"You talk too much."
-Hooky addresses some punters
Writeup, from a CD courtesy of Solitude.
_586_
Second time this is played.
PH: "Could we have a little bit of light up here Tony please?
Thank you."
Hooky hits a few bum notes here, but otherwise it's the early
version that some judge to be better than the one that ended
up on PC&L.
lyric: "I see bloodshed in my skin..."
Great ending. Big songs...
Some audience chatter in between.
_Chosen___Time_
Extended drum intro...
Somebody yells, "You fuck off." Quite a bit of shouting amongst
different groups of punters, enough to get Hooky to state to the
crowd, "You talk too much."
_Ultravolence_
lyric: "Who saw the darkness?...Who saw the blind heat?"
At the end a fan comments, "turn the vocals up!"
Loud cheering when the synths of _Processions_ come on.
Somebody calls out for "Dreams Never End", punter closer to the
taper comments "you _still_ talk too much". New Order tune their
instruments, as somebody else says "Play something new."
_We___All___Stand_
Audience comment at end, "Nice one".
PH: "[can't make out], wash your tongues...You're not shouting anything.
That's all."
Punter yells out, "Cheer up, Peter!" and Hooky then replies, "That's better."
_Hurt_
A fabulous version.
Tape edit (actually two) at this point.
_Denial_
Sparkling guitars.
More tuning afterwards. Someone cries out for EGG.
_Temptation_
Intro sounds like Everything's Gone Green, but then shifts...
Rapt applause and shouts for "More!", of course.
Squealing tape edit...
_Jam___with___52nd___Street_
Definitely unlike anything I've heard from the group before or since.
Somebody from 52nd St. can be heard to shout out "Poison", which I
think is the name of the track. Ends in feedback.
Juha submitted the following:
New Order
Setlist:
No encores. No 'The Passenger' played, despite what Mark Johnson claimed.
Another possibility is that this was played just during the soundcheck,
as they've played the guitar riff at least at other coundchecks.
He notes:
"My friend recorded the set with his portable radio cassette recorder from
the soundboad tower in the field. Throughout the set there was some static
noise - possibly caused by a bad cable of the PA system - which got
progressively worse as the gig went on, up to the point of 'We All Stand',
where from there it cleared up somewhat."
His first impression of the performance:
A mild let down. They were kinda lost, awkwardly looking at their shoes.
One highlight was Hooky's over the top stage presence."
Then he writes:
"Now that I listened the tape few times New Order actually was playing
quite tightly and sounded great according to the laws of NO physics.
No major fuck-ups at all. Guitars mostly in tune, just a little bit of
annoying in-the-middle-of-the-song tuning. The most distinctive element
of their music - Hooky's bass playing - was in its place and brilliant.
The tunes are stripped-down compared to the originals, yet contain the
essense of the recorded versions. Hooky was singing 'Dreams Never End',
with Barney doing the rest. No "hello-we-are-a-band-you-must-be-the-audience"
babble. Not even a single song title. Not a word. I don't remember they
said an extra word during the whole gig to communicate with the audience.
Super cool!"
Juha reckons that the tape rates as A-/B+, if it weren't for the static
hiss that can be heard throughout. I say it's definitely A-. He also
notes that the version of Ultraviolence on this was quite short, nothing
like the 20+ minute opus heard elsewhere around this time. While the
weather conditions, equipment problems, and band mindset perhaps
resulted in a sub-par show, what we hear of New Order on tape belies
Juha's initial impressions.
He then adds:
"I'm pretty sure there was some long tuning breaks. According to the tape
it sounds like recording was paused during the band was tuning and
struckling with their equipment. Not any significant loss, really.
Annoying, but not too bad though."
"Ultraviolence' is app. 3 min. long. Is it really that short? I feel
like there's a bit more than few seconds missing. I don't know. Hmm...
makes me wonder. There's nice version of 'We All Stand' - kinda reggae
sound system echo used in it. Overall the tunes eventually released in
their 2nd album are in their early stage or just rawer, down stripped
live versions." 586 in particular is a highlight, in it's "Taboo #7"
form.
Some additional comments from Juha, regarding the rarity of the recording
and more information regarding the atmosphere of the gig:
"You are possibly quite right. This tape of mine has never been out in
any circulation whatsoever. It's quite possibly there are only two copies
in existence - I made one extra safety copy of it to myself. If I ever
made one for my friend - the recording engineer - it's most likely lost or
destroyed. I don't remember if I'd made a copy for the third friend who
participated at Provinssi. So there're max. 3 copies in existence
nowadays, but not very likely - most likely only these two I have.
Until now...
The Finnish personnel involved seemed to be somewhat indifferent. Who knows?
There might be some (most likely a cassette, as DAT wasn't available back
then) SBD existing - capturing all that static interference crystal clear!
But this is most definitely the best audience recording made from this
show - if any other exist - not because of the hi-tech gear used all the way
through the process but the location it was recorded from. You simply cannot
beat a soundboard/control tower that easily! And those days it wasn't that
common people had recordable gear of any kind with them. Who can tell?
I doubt even NO/personnel involved have any recollection of that catastrophic
experience/bad memory. According to my friend there was NO interview in
some news/musicpaper. They were asked what they remembered from that gig
in Provinssi. They said something about dismal/dready experience, possibly
referring to a chilly and rainy day which may have had something to do
with causing the sound problems (synths/sequencers being very sensitive to
humidity) - not long before before NO started, the sun started to shine -
and muddy, out of their head drunken kids, crazy ordinary Finnish citizens
all over the place. Which is, by the way, a beautiful park; full of trees
and green grass with a small lake and all."
Another question was the exact date. Juha had questioned whether the
performance occured on Saturday, June 5th as opposed to Sunday, June 6th
(which is what the various official sources had given), but it turns
out that his recollection was a bit hazy and that the gig had indeed
happened on Sunday, as the weather that day had been clear for a part
of the day rather than completely rainy as it was for the previous day,
which matches up what had been reported for their performance.
Also, according to SOUNDI 7/82 Pauli Kosonen's festival report and
Thomas Harald in the VASABLADET newspaper, 'Everything's Gone Green'
was played. Considering the recording was paused twice, it's not
inconceivable that this song was not taped. But according to the
taper, no such thing happened, and the journalist simply misidentified
one of the tracks, in my estimation, most likely 586, since it was a
very new song and to the casual observer (or lazy journalist), may
have resembled Everything's Gone Green, and that one source passed
it onto the other.
A transcription of the crowd banter. New Order do not speak at all
thoughout.
Due to my inability to render non-ASCII characters, "x" is used for
"a" with an umlaut, and "z" is used for "o" with the same.
_Ultraviolence_
1:17: "Vai pitiks jxtkix nxhdx?"
(addressing Juha's friend.)
1:19: "Txh?"
(Juha's friend's initial response.)
The initial person repeats his question, with no audible immediate
response. A little bit later, there's the following.
2:01: "Hei Sviikki!"
2:02: "No?"
2:03: "Kuka ne o?"
2:04: "New Order?"
2:05: "New Order? Jaha."
2:31: "Ootteko te kaverit ton txnne pxxstxnyt?"
TRNS: "Did you guys let him in here?"
(Probably referring to the taper who had mounted the control tower for
the taping.)
_Senses_
4:30: "Yks kundi toi noi."
(Pointing out the recording gear of the friend of Juha's.)
4:32: "Txh?"
4.33: "Yks kundi toi noi. Mx annoin xxnittxx sen."
TRNS: "Some guy brought those. I let him record."
4:37: "Et kovin suurta lzytxnyt?"
(A sarcastic/amused comment about the recording gear being not so big
addressed to Juha's friend.)
4:38: "Kyllx"
(This is somebody else besides the taper replying.)
_Temptation_
7:03: "Hirvee jyrinx!"
A few seconds later, the same person asks:
7:06: "Mistxhxn se johtuu?"
(about the buzzing)
7:08: "Voi olla et niillx o joku piuha poikki. Ei se pxivxllx ottanut
yhtxxn."
TRNS: "It may be they have some cable cut. It didn't cause any
(interference) earlier today."
_We___All___Stand_
0:12: "Ota valot kokonaan pois."
2:51: "Siellx ei oo valoja mihin mx pyrin."
TRNS: "There're no lights that I can get connected. That's what I'm doing here."
2:54: "Txx tulee pois."
2.56: "Hei!"
2:57: "Kokeile Tuomas valomiehix."
2:58: "Txh?"
2:59: "Valomiehix!"
3:00: "Koko ajan."
(Tuomas sounds annoyed because he *has* been working on contacting the lighting
crew)
3:02: "Hei valot! Onks valomiehix?"
(this is 'Tuomas' talking over a command line between the control tower
and lighting crew)
3:10: "Otit sx kaikki jo pois?"
3:12: "Onks nxx valoja?"
(probably referring to the switches)
3:13: "Joo-o."
3:18: "Koko ajan ollu pois."
3:28: "Ai kokonaan?"
4:28: "Jep. Niil on lxhtz kunnossa."
4:30: "Oikee otto pxxllx?"
4:33: "Ei aavistustakaan."
4:34: "Siis mitx?"
4:42: "Ei ollu pxxllx vai?"
6:31: "Lopettais nyt jo saatana! Txx on huono avaus."
TRNS: "Can't they just fucking stop? This is a bad start."
(Juha notes that this person's probably more worried about the rest of
the weekend than about New Order's particular performance. This pro
isn't a particularly happy camper right about now)
6:48: "Varos vxhx sitx."
7:03: "Pitiks sun tarttua?"
(Juha doesn't have the slightest idea what this was about.)
_Procession_
0:02: "Aika hyvx."
(probably about the quality of the sound. No indication that he's being
sarcastic here)
0:04: "Ei se vaan sekxxn. Ei se valoon voinu saada ainoastaan."
TRNS: "It wasn't even that one. It couldn't have leaked into just the
lights."
0:08: "Aika hoopoja ne ottaa."
(Possibly about the dubious, in this person's opinion, choice of letting
New Order play in this festival.)
0:09: "Ei txtx jumalatkaan kestxis."
(His counterpart is less harsh towards the band.)
0:12: "Toiki on hyvx ehkx jossain mielessx."
TRNS: "Maybe even that (New Order) is good in some sense."
0:16: "Se kikkaili noilla pelleillx, nii se ei ollu hyvx."
TRNS: "He was messing around with the cymbals so that they would sound bad."
(probably directed at to whoever soundchecked the drums, since in this person's
view, they didn't do a very good job)
0:19: "Tosi xhellys."
0:20: "Se oli hirveetx."
0:21: "Joo mx kuulin sen nii kauhea xhellys."
TRNS: "Yeah, I heard it so it was like terrible toiling."
0:24: "Sit siellx oli enemmxnki niitx."
TRNS: "Then there're some more of them."
3:39: "Lopeta nyt jo."
3:55: "Se kundi lxhti pois?"
3:56: "Joo. Aikoja sitten."
3:57: "Se xijx hxvis."
4:03: "Ja lisxx vaan txllxstx."
(being totally sarcastic)
4:04: "Kyllx."
M/2 cassette seeded by davemings. Very good quality, taken from
LP bootleg, all tracks fade in and out.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Feedback squall at start.
_586_ and _Procession_ follows.
Then about 35 seconds of the intro to _Ultraviolence_.
BS: "Guilty request there." (not sure if this is what he says)
The band then play _Chosen___Time_.
Audience stop and clap between songs, and during the intro of
_Truth_.
_Senses_.
We hear a second or so, and then there's a tape edit and it
starts over. Not sure if that's on the original vinyl or not.
_Ultraviolence_ starts out at too-high a pitch, which give it
its own unique identity. Excellent version.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ follows.
At 4:18 there's this amazing sequencer pattern, much more aggressive
than is wont for this song.
_Temptation_ ends the proceedings.
Copy from PA. A somewhat hissy but still enjoyable audience tape,
as this is quite a good recording.
_Ultraviolence_
A bit of PA bumpiness at the start.
Still with the "who killed my father" lyrics.
_The___Him_
Folks clap and cheer through the break.
_Chosen___Time_
The bass sequencer falters at points.
_Leave___Me___Alone_ follow.
The first verse of this song still doesn't have the final
lyrics as they appear on PC&L.
_Senses_
New Order tune after the completion of this song. A bloke
calls out something that sounds like "Barney", but is probably
Italian.
_Hurt_
Hooky plays the opening riff completely out of key.
The sound characteristics changes between 5:01 - 5:08, as if
this source has been patched.
One lyric is "You must be joking".
_Ceremony_ follows.
(afterwards)
BS: "Buenos aries."
_Temptation_
BS: "No, it's not working. Push it." (or does he say "bullshit"?)
BS: "I might need some help anywhere these days."
(last part uncertain)
New Order accidentally fire off the wrong sequencer program.
(Hurt's instead of Temptation's)
BS: "[few words] is dead."
_Dreams___Never___End_ follows, with some seconds of 'dead air',
and then _Denial_.
BS: "Thank you very much."
Squiggly-sounding tape edit. Hooky playing unique bass riff
that speeds up into the amazing early rendition of 586. This
one is about 10:30 in length.
A fairly-odd sounding one sound-wise...volume levels are all
over the place...maybe be due to excessive NR, as my copy sounds
fairly metallic.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ and _Dreams___Never___End_ first.
Some near audience comments (in Italian) during the intro of
_Chosen___Time_.
Powerful version of _The___Him_.
A bit of feedback and tuning after this, as well as quite
a bit of chatter.
_ICB_
(after)
Bernard scraps his guitar pick across his strings.
Girl calls out for "Sarahmonee" between tracks.
_The___Village_ follows. This is the only non Movement-era
track they performed that night.
_Denial_ sounds especially garbled here.
More "Sarahmonees".
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
More loud shouting at the end of this.
_Ceremony_
Ditto here.
_586_ follows.
Amusing singalong to _Temptation_, with a few screaming out
the name of the title. There's a break about a minute in,
and lots of screaming near the end, some of it for "Barney".
Taken from a bootleg LP, most likely the "Bologna 06/21/82"
double LP issue. I'm now of the opinion that this is sourced
from a an excellent-quality audience tape rather than a soundboard,
as the kick drum/cymbals are more echoey than what you would
get with a soundboard and there is near audience banter that
can be heard in between the second and third songs.
_Temptation_ and _Procession_ start out the set. There's
a fairly long gap between those and _We___All___Stand_.
_Senses_
Solid version of the Movement classic.
_586_
This version starts off with a repeated Hooky bass note,
and a sequencer pattern close to, but not quite the same,
as the one on Video 586.
Fade between 586 and _Hurt_.
The bass riff at some point on this goes deliciously off-key.
BS: "Thanks very much. We love Italy as well."
_The___Village_
Lyrics are still not in their final form. A beautiful rendition.
Samples:
"It goes up, it goes down, it touches the ground."
"Oh, this day is like the time, it comes behind...out
our behind. This day is like the tide, it hurts me, it
hurts me, it hurts me, it hurts me, I buy it, I'll buy it."
"The starlight is beautiful, the sky is quite nice too."
"The starlight is beautiful, the sky, babe(?), is okay."
Any help in finalizing these lyrics would be most appreciated.
Edit between The Village and _Denial_, which segues neatly
into _Dreams___Never___End_. _Ceremony_ and a very strong
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ finish out the set. Actually,
all the tracks are strong, this is a worthy mate to the
Milan gig the day after.
Original text for this entry (not very accurately) read:
"Tracks 6-8 of the second 'Dreams Never End' boot are
taken from this performance. There's no audience banter
to speak of, but sound quality is very good, having
originated as a soundboard recording."
CD from Solitude. Source is soundboard, sound is excellent.
Have another version from TS with even better sound, though more
hiss and less NR.
_Truth_
Fade-in. Crackling 8-9s in.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Barney tunes up as Gillian plays intro.
A bit more tuning before the Order play _Chosen___Time_
Bernard's vocals start up low in the mix.
Barney says something (off-mic, impossible to make out) and
changes guitars (you can hear him unplug/plug).
_ICB_
"Taken from a killing ground" line repeated. Hooky's backing vocals
are fairly notable, as they're somewhat off-key.
Break in the TS version between the tracks.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
Seventh time they play this one. Interesting version, not the best
playing, but worth paying attention to.
Bernard's guitar tone is different than it should be, and he's
a bit off with respect to a few of the notes and playing in time
to Gillian. Gillian's guitar is left speaker, Bernard's is right,
as left guitar keeps playing as Barney sings.
The lyrics are a bit different. Open "thousand islands" line is
awash in reverb.
lyrics: "They are favorite sayings(?) from head to toe, it's the same.
There are a thousand bad dreams in the night, I've seen a thousand
bloodless, sleepless fights..."
and
"There is [three words starting with 't'] on the horizon..."
The ending guitar salvos are somewhat different than the release.
_Denial_
About 2:00 the tape on the Sol version garbles as the heads run over a
stretched bit.
_Procession_
The "life keeps getting stranger line" has special emphasis.
_586_
BS: "Quiet please, can't hear meself think up here."
(not preserved on the soundboard version but is on the audience tape)
The intro for this version sounds more like Video 586 than the PC&L release,
However, the lyrics are the same as the release. The break survives in
the untitled portion of PC&L between "The Village" and "586".
This segues right into _Temptation_, and from there into
_Everythings___Gone___Green_.
There's a dropout for a few seconds in all copies of EGG I've heard
(at about 2:20) so that's likely a problem with the master. The sound
effects rock, lots of reverb on Barney's vocals...this is about the
time New Order really start coming into their own.
It sounds like the fans are yelling "Barney"...but it could be Italian
for "more".
_When___Im___With___You_
PH: "If you liked the last three, you'll like this one."
(only on audience version, soundbard has it cut)
This is the Sparks cover. It's extraordinary that New Order also had
one other cover (Turn The Heater On) and an original (Too Late) that
were debuted in the same month, but were never heard from again, at
least in their original form.
At about 3:35, Barney states, "This is why we don't do encores..."
and at 3:54, "This is a bad idea." There's a brief dropout at the
4:44 count that's present on the Sol version but not on the TS version.
At almost the 11:00 Hooky starts playing the bass riff for Ceremony.
My original copy was supposedly a 3rd gen soundboard tape (most likely
really an audience tape), 'davemings' on STG seeded a 2nd gen copy that
sounds very pleasing to these ears.
There has been some confusion over how many sets were played. The
consensus is that there was only one, with the "first" set listed
matching the one listed for Tenax - Florence, Italy, with IALP
tacked on. I may have done my part in perpetuating this error, since
the original Waterrat listing did *not* list two sets (though it seems
to now!)
I'll keep the following from 'twist' for now, as it documents the
ficticious set:
"I think this was for the opening of the hacienda. Anywho, two sets
played. Power cut during the second set. From NOOL "There were two sets
for those lucky few who had managed to get into the opening of the
Hacienda, in what would be a momentous night. Overcoming the sound
problems was the first problem faced by the band, as the power blew
during Ultraviolence at the start of the second [sic] set, and the sound
system was generally churning out a muddy and uneven sound.
The first set (Dreams Never End, 586, Procession, Chosen Time, Truth,
Senses, Ultraviolence, Everything's Gone Green, Temptation, In A Lonely
Place) contained no surprises, and it was left to the headline set to
get everyone on their feet (20 minute delay not withstanding).
Re-opening with In A Lonely Place and Ultraviolence before the powercut,
the band came back to pummel us with Denial, spark curiosity with The
Village, chill us out with We All Stand, speed things up again with a
rejuvenated Senses and Chosen Time, finishing with the new electronic
way forward in the face of the triumvirate that was 586, Temptation and
EGG."
CW recalls that there was a soundcheck tape with We All Stand, The
Village, 586, Temptation, EGG, which he never had a copy of.
I've been able to trace down three versions:
(1) Bootleg version, the one with the '82 Italian dates
(2) 'davemings' STG version.
I figure (2) was recorded closer to the PA, and is loud, with somewhat
better sound than (3). (1) sounds the murkiest of the lot.
From (3), announcer (unidentified, not Tony Wilson):
"Hacienda. That's really for members. Next Tuesday, for the 29th of
June, we have 52nd Street and Swamp Children. The Saturday after that,
the 3rd of July, the rearranged Funkapolitan. And the Wednesday,
7th of July, a concert you shouldn't miss, Liaisons Dangereuse, and on
Friday, the 9th of July, A Certain Ratio. [punter: "that's quite good,
innit"] What about that? The next newsletter will be out pretty soon,
as will the membership cards, still problems getting the embossing done
at a very secret printers. Admission very soon will be even lower, that
means even though you'll pay nothing tonight, we'll pay you to come.
Okay, this is not just another venue, but a club, and it's based not
on mere consumption but on contribution. So what are you going to give?
(punter: money). So the Hacienda gives you, tonight, New Order!"
Josef K says that Barney may have played keyboards for 52nd Street
for that gig, but hasn't been able to confirm it.
Then a 52nd Street ("Cool As Ice", I think) song comes over the PA.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ starts out things.
BS: "One two." And then a couple of notes on the melodica, which
bear a striking resemblence to the opening synth line of Sooner Than
You Think, two years early. Synth here sounds very untuned.
(3) is the most complete, (1) only has the trailing bit of the
melodica blast, a clink of glasses, and somebody a few seconds into
the drum intro saying something like "what a lousy place" (2) has the
melodica and then punters yelling out "Oh!" and "Bernard."
Then _Ultraviolence_, with the bass levels being a bit too
high and causing a bit of distortion...in line with the comments
made above about the problems with the Hacienda's PA. Barney's
vocals are full of reverb as usual on '82 recordings.
At shortly before 3:30 the power cuts out, leaving the audience
shouting in confusion.
(edit)
Alan Erasmus (thanks to Dave Mings for the ID) and Wilson talk next.
RG: "...a little problem. It's gonna get ugly(?) eh? Just stick
around please."
[only heard on (2), (3) has an edit point starting here]
TW: "It's either a fuse or a bad wire, if it's only a bad wire, it
should be traceable, it'll be about ten minutes. Sorry about this
solution."
Another edit and a bit more crowd before the power is restored
and New Order start over playing _Ultraviolence_ again.
_Denial_ follows.
_The___Village_ has an interesting bass synth riff not otherwise
present on the release.
About 30 seconds gap between this one and the next song, which
is _We___All___Stand_. On (3), a punter identifies the track.
Drop-out in right channel at 4:14, lasts about 10 seconds. (2)
Also (2):
A/B split between We All Stand and _Senses_, fadeout captures
the first couple seconds of boinging synths, which is cold-start
replayed. Another small break before the next one, _Chosen___Time_.
(3) has an edit point after Chosen Time.
Then follows _586_, with the Touch records sequencer sound rather
than the later PCL sound. Bass sound is distorted here. Bit of
a drop in levels at about 15:10, coming back at about 15:25. (2)
(3) sounds complete to these ears.
Folks deem this performance to be a bit lackluster, since it was a bit
of a one-off, maybe New Order was underrehearsed. Also could be that
the crowd wasn't getting into it, so the band wasn't, and vice versa.
Tape I have is the one davemings seeded to EZT, which he lists as
possibly being second generation. And, wonder of wonders, a
*soundboard* recording of this gig has surfaced!
To quote Mark Johnson:
"Held on a windy, rain-swept evening near Blackpool's North Pier, this
concert was promoted and supported by Section 25, with an appearance by
Kevin Hewick. It was one of the group's rare nationally-advertised
concerts and one Portuguese fan travelled all the way from Lisbon to
see them. Though New Order's digital sequencer had failed the week
before and could not be repaired in time for the concert, the band rented
equipment for the event. "Age Of Consent", written that month, was
debuted and the sell-out crowd of 1,000 gave New Order a tumultuous
reception."
And indeed, this explains why the sequenced tracks sound so different,
with "586" being especially amazing. *This* is simply the best version
of that track ever, which shames all later versions, with the opening
guitar and ending synth and bass work being stunning. And a version
of "We All Stand" that's a keeper, though Hurt for some reason is a
shambles, as the sequencer mysteriously speeds up a bit after 3:00 in.
Notes pertain to audience tape, unless where otherwise indicated.
JC on EZT writes:
"_Procession_ starts a bit muffled presumably just as the keyboards start
up, and there's a pronounced shuffling of the microphone between 4 to 8
seconds into this first track, and it sounds as though the microphone
carrier was clapping at the end of 'Procession' just as the keyboards
wind-down."
At the end there's a feedback squall, plus Hooky off-mic shouting out
"Wanker! You musty(?) twat...".
_Ceremony_ follows.
More shouting from the same bloke as before after the applause, which dies
out to near-silence, almost unheard of for an Order gig.
_586_
Mic scuffle at 0:12-0:13. Old style intro, actually a bit different
than other versions either before or after, which might be because the
sequencer is playing the song in a different key than PH or BS are.
Thanks to indiearchivist for that observation.
_Truth_ follows to polite applause.
The intro to _We___All____Stand_ is much unlike anything I've heard
from this song...it's starts out much too fast a tempo, which is slowed
down right before Bernard plays. A pity, because it's a really cool
effect.
Hooky tunes his bass at the end. Somebody says "Does [something] like
that?
There's a brief tape edit on the audience tape here.
PH: "Don't give a fuck."
The soundboard tape has an edit after this.
_Hurt_
The sequencers mysteriously speed up at about 3:24, probably
throwing off Hooky's bass riff. A shambolic performance.
(one of the audience versions)
Somebody says "one more", someone else says "ten minutes, ten
minutes", and then the same person, closer to the mic, says
"fourteen minutes". Wonder if this refers to how much tape
is left.
PH: "Got one of those rigs, Steve?"
A long pause then a couple of guitar noises.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Excellent intro...
More conversation about how much time is left, the reply this
time is "ten minutes".
_Age___Of___Consent_
The debut performance!
The lyrics strike me as being looser than other early performances,
with Barney singing in a falsetto at one point.
Song strips down before ending. Sounds like tape is slowed down
and then stopped rather than the normal cut.
_Ultraviolence_
Sound quality gets noticeably worse, a lot more hissy.
There's some talking at the beginning of this which may correspond
with JC getting up and leaving, assuming JC was near the taper
as he seems to suggest.
Gap at 0:50 (tape flip?) and a left channel drop at 1:02.
Quite a few improvisional lyrics, the best bit being, "This is the
end...I like the end, and some very nice cooing.".
The song ends in some synth effects.
JC's account of the gig, from EZT:
"Did a quick download and listening now. First thing that strikes me is
that the recorder was nowhere near the PA, probably taking a central
position. I guess it was a good way back too, as I have memories of a
decent crowd near the band at the front. If you compare with the
Blackpool Scamps recording in 1980, you can tell that Scamps was a
small, low-roofed club.
I too was towards the back of the concert hall, which may go some way to
explain why I didn't enjoy the sound either. I arrived just in time for
New Order after a few strong lemonades in the Metropole Hotel across the
road.
The performance is not as bad as I remember, but it's a lacklustre
effort at times. Looking at the dates on the website Live Browser, this
one is a bit of a one-off, so they may only have practiced at the
soundcheck? The crowd are not offering too much assistance either. It
takes two to tango, and neither band or crowd are giving much.
I didn't miss as much as I thought, as I'm sure I heard 'Age Of
Consent', and left presumably during 'Ultraviolence'. Now that was
lacklustre. I was with my friend Martin, who also liked New Order a lot
and played in one of the support bands when Joy Division played
Blackpool in 1979, and we both were underwhelmed by the event.
If memory further serves me correctly, this event was an attempt at
something Factory were trying to do, which was to provide DJ's and dance
music, and have short sets from bands too. That date would have been the
Monday of the late August Holiday weekend, so maybe a few worn-out souls
had spent all their energy by that Monday night?
Having to go back to work after the Monday holiday dampened our spirits,
those that had work in 1982!!!!
Regards, John"
Description from http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/neworder/no_disc/notapes.html
Tape bootleg lists:
ultraviolence, dreams never end, denial, unknown pleasures (interesting
title for 'leave me alone' ed.), procession, chosen time, in a lonely place,
everything's gone green, temptation, probable result ("I'm not the
kind...") 586 (encore) [all sic] Incl. new song "Age of Consent"
Tape I have is of indeterminate quality, second or third generation.
I also have an MP3, which uses a different source (need to verify this).
Don't know which sounds better. Both snotters and waterisnat from STG
seeded copies of this gig, but mine may be superior, although not really
enough to warrant a re-reseed.
In 2006, a new version taped by v1 surfaced, better than any prior
version.
Some good Bernie whoops and screams during _Ultraviolence_.
Waterisnat's version has a dropout at 2:32.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Snotters' version has a brief dropout at 0:50. Mix has Hooky's
vocals very low.
_Denial_
Punter on Snotters version comments that this is an old song.
Volume drop on Snotters' tape between 0:20-0:35, not present on
other tapes, as well as at the 3:50 point.
_Leave___Me___Alone_ has different lyrics, kinda hard to make out,
but Bernard repeats "It's the last time" a few times.
On the v1 version, the taper comments that he'd rather sit down for
a bit, with his female companion assenting.
_Procession_ has a bit of "one two" soundchecking during the intro.
A remarkable occurance:
_Chosen___Time_ segues into _In___A___Lonely___Place_ (with a detour
into Hooky playing a bit of the bassline for _Decades_), which segues
into _Everythings___Gone___Green_, which has a Hooky count-in and
innovative dub effects, which segues into _Temptation_.
A/B split on v1 tape at this point.
Hooky has a false start with bass intro to _Age___Of___Consent_.
Bernard sings "I wish I was black and had a six foot long dick."
Don't we all?
The Snotters audience tape has somebody commenting on Bernard's change
of lyrics. "He changed the words?"
Edit on v1 version.
Meanwhile people are cheering for an encore, which NO give, in the form
of _586_, sounding like Prime 5-8-6 but with vocals.
PH: "This is only because you've been here long as we have."
Soundcheck
Sound is nothing to write home about.
Fast drumming
_Temptation_ starts things off, and sounds fairly bouncy.
A break between _Procession_ and _Ultraviolence_ and some
audience chatter. At the start of of UV Bernard says a word
or two that's impossible to make out. There's a tape cut
about 2:30 in. Very interesting 'stutter' ending.
_Truth_
The intro to Ultraviolence gets fired off by mistake.
_We___All___Stand_
More audience chatter (in Greek) as New Order prep for the next
song.
BS: "Shut up, you stupid p...sters!"
A loud reverb/echoed scream after the "end of the road" bit.
Barney sings "to the end of the road" near the end.
Song ends abruptly with the keyboard motif played really
badly.
Bernard says something that starts of with, "If you got..."
but I can'tmake out the rest.
_Senses_ follows.
_Truth_
Features following stanza after the bridge:
"Too hard to rumble/Too hard to humble/Too hard to mumble."
_Hurt_
Edit in tape, so the first bit is cut.
This one also has different lyrics, with Bernard announcing
"I hate you...I don't know you, and I don't want to." and
a lot of other bits that will be fun to pick out.
_Dreams___Never___End_ is its usual rousing self.
_The___Village_
(aborted)
New Order tune and Bernard mumbles out something to introduce.
They try to play the Village, but fail, and the crowd boos
in derision.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Features the homage to Lou Reed involving skin color and hugely-sized
genitalia.
As well as, "I have a boy that needs to tell you..."
and "Well, the past is the past and the present is never..."
and other improvisations I need to pick out.
Excellent.
The A and B sides to FAC33, _Ceremony_ and _In___A___Lonely___Place_,
close out the set.
The following was the original entry, which I believe is not true:
"Tracks 9-11 of the second 'Dreams Never End' boot are
taken from this performance. There's no audience banter
to speak of, but sound quality is very good, having
originated as a soundboard recording."
Master clone kindly supplied from GaoBest and TMK.
_Your___Silent___Face_
Huge glitch (like the tape was chewed up) from about 2:30 - 3:00.
Interesting announcer-type male voice from 3:25 - 3:50.
Dunno if this is tape bleed, a sample used by the group, or
some other form of interference. I'm betting the latter.
Another similar glitch between 5:10 - 5:20...definitely seems
to be damage on the master tape.
This interference runs throughout, and is really strange, as
it's not backwards (indicative of bleed-through).
_Dreams___Never___End_ and _Ceremony_ follow.
Tuning between _Procession_ and _Temptation_.
Break in tape between _In___A___Lonely___Place_ and _Senses_.
The beginning of Senses has a pretty clear sample of what
runs in parallel.
A bit of tuning before _Denial_.
_Age___Of___Consent_
lyric: "I wish I was black and I had a six foot dick/
I'd shove it down your throat and make you sick."
There's an internal cut after about 5:15, this must have been
where the original A/B flip point was.
A classic version!
_Blue___Monday_
We only have the last 1:10 from this, and it sounds like it
originates from a different (higher-gen) source, but is in
stereo and is quite a bit hissier than the rest of these
tracks, as well as possibly being pitched too fast. Of course,
the importance of this can't be overstated, as this is the
debut live performace of this seminal track.
I have a video of this, while my version appears to have been an optical
transfer, and therefore nearly unwatchable, through the magic of the
Internet, we now have a much better copy.
Here's what GaoBest has to say about this one:
"I think 11-27-82 is from a close-circuit recording; the venue
consisted of a bar room and a performance room, and used tripod
cameras for a close-circuit feed into tv sets in the bar room.
Excellent quality photography, but of course generation loss...
but if you've been to the Shoreline, I'm sure you've been to the
bar during music performance, or seen the "overscreen" TV
screens, which show band footage scenes... just like that!"
His version is better, not being an optical transfer, though the
color cuts in and out...it's seen one too many generations of
copies. Writeup is based on his copy.
There are probably brief edits between all of the tracks.
Apparently this *wasn't* from closed-circuit TV but was filmed in the balcony.
Reports are that an instrumental version of 'New Dawn Fades' was played at
soundcheck.
_Ceremony_
There's an individual wearing a blue Duke t-shirt (Terry Mason) that is
leaning back in a Christ-like post for much of the performance of this song.
All the band are facing in different directions. Bernard is wearing
a sleeveless white shirt with a badge of an eagle on a shield, Gillian
a knee-high print dress, Hooky in stark contrast to the singer/guitarist
wearing a sleeveless black shirt, and Stephen a long-sleeved white
collared shirt.
The intro to _Ultraviolence_ gurgles until Gillian presses something.
Intense, amazing.
lyric: "Down to the ground / In your shit-hole!"
_Chosen___Time_
Bernard switches his guitar before the start of this track.
At the end, he goes over to the banks of keyboards and starts
fiddling.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Starts with an off-focus closeup on Hooky.
_We___All___Stand_
Duke of Christ-pose is back.
New Order lose the plot somewhat near the end of this song. Apparently
Barney has problems with his guitar, eyeing the bridge, which may have
been the source of the problems.
_Temptation_
Newly-discovered footage has surfaced of this song, but with a worse-quality
soundtrack.
_Truth_
Vocoder makes its appearance. Bernard sings the first line
in a near-croon, but shifts to a more restrained vocal.
Stephen steps away from the drumkit and goes behind the
keyboard. Sound starts to cut out between first and second
verses.
_Your___Silent___Face_
Second time this song is ever played live, the first being two
nights before. Remarkably well-formed for such a virgin rendering,
lyrics are complete including the classic 'why don't you piss off'
bit. About the only thing different is the sound of the syndrum.
_Temptation_ is cut from this recording, only the first couple
of seconds survive on most copies. However, it was recorded,
albeit with loads of distortion.
The sound of _Denial_ cuts out a couple of times.
_Blue___Monday_
The second-ever performance, the first having been two nights
before. This is the first performance with vocals, the previous
one having been instrumental.
Bernard sits down and sips at his beverage through the intro.
Hooky is playing drums throughout. Not otherwise much different
than the version we all know and love.
One minor difference is Bernard sings "How should I feel" instead
of "How do I feel". And Gillian's keyboard playing is lovingly
shaky here. At one point, Barney and Stephen start talking,
in and of itself a fairly unusual occurence.
No setlist for this performance has surfaced...
This was just posted by one "Brubut" on DIME, in a thread about Irvine:
"Thanks for posting this. It reminds me of the first NO gig I saw at
The Capitol Theatre Sydney in 1982. I was the record company person
looking after support John Cooper Clarke and he and NO decided to do a
surprise encore of Lady Godiva's Operation. JCC spent the day at my
place learning the lyrics. On the night most people had started
leaving the show due to the New Order Don't do Encores signes
everywhere when they came back on for a stunning and unique version of
the VU track. The sad news is back at the hotel later that night
drinking with NO and JCC I was briefly (legally) in posession of the
desk tape but someone from NO's crew asked for it back. Question is,
has anyone got a recording of this show in particular the encore?"
Now that would be something worth hearing, wouldn't it? Perhaps the
tape still exists in the Gretton box, but who knows if it's got the
encore track on it."
When asked about the setlist, he replied:
"Unfortunately I couldn't possibly remember the set list. I should
have grabbed one when I was back stage. Hinsight is such a great thing.
I might see if I can chase up a copy through JCC. See if he ever got
a copy of the tape. I was originally given the desk tape to make him
a copy but it was taken away by someone (tour manager) who said they'd
do it. If I ever get it I'll certainly share it on DIME."
_Age___Of___Consent_, _Chosen___Time_, and _Ultraviolence_
are played without any comment.
A bit of a pause between this number and _We___All___Stand_.
_The___Him_ follows.
_Hurt_
Brief cut at 2:03.
Song has strange tempo changes during the middle part.
_Your___Silent___Face_ is up next.
Brief cut at the start of Procession.
_586_ and _Temptation_ follow.
From AR master recording, not especially clear but plenty good enough
for the purpose.
This date was originally given for Christchurch, but it turns out
that both 06 DEC and 08 DEC were in Wellington.
_ICB_
A bit of bass soundchecking before the song starts.
(Between 'line of force from heaven' and 'a tear in a strangers eye')
BS: "Turn the foldback on please."
(at end)
punter: "Still can't see a bloody thing..."
Other assorted comments before the band start in on _Everythings___Gone___Green_.
Lots of audience chatter at the two minute mark.
Taper or someone close to him says 'In A Lonely Place'. The group play
_Chosen___Time_ instead.
_Procession_ follows.
_We___All___Stand_ features quite a distinctive bass synth sound here.
BS: "Drum machine through the foldback please."
At the end, somebody says, "Gillian, give me a smile..."
_Ultraviolence_
lyrics:
"who saw those dark eyes?
Punter cries out for 'Mesh', which they stopped playing in early 1981.
_Senses_ follows.
False start for _Ceremony_.
Another cry for 'Mesh'.
_The___Village_ follows.
Call for 'Dreams Never End'...but the last song turns out to be
_586.
The original Gigography listing for both this and the 06 DEC 82
gigs are believed to be swapped, with this having been listed as
the Christchurch date. This has been fixed.
Details regarding this gig from GaoBest
81 minutes
_Your___Silent___Face_
Fans say stuff like "fuck this" during the silence after the false
start.
Somebody burps before the start of _Temptation_.
_Dreams___Never___End_ and _The___Him_ follow.
Then a halting start to _Leave___Me___Alone_.
The last lines of the first stanza are "And all days end just the same."
_In___A___Lonely___Place follows.
End bass notes back into _Hurt_.
This version has different lyrics at the end. The reverb makes it
difficult to make these out.
_Denial_ is next, followed by _Age___Of___Consent_.
Hooky calls out "1-2-3-4", which can barely be heard, out of the
break.
Some drum sequences.
_Blue___Monday_
(the following is in response to a heckler, but I can't entirely
make it out)
BS: "I can't fucking hear a word you're saying so if you don't like it,
you can fuck off. She said...making fun of us...in fact, I could be in bed
at this very moment. You like drums? I hope you like drums because it
goes on like this for another half an hour, and there's another one just
the same after it." (thanks to tribeca737 for the corections)
"Those who came before you/
There's also other twists...as this is a very early version, only
the third time that this is played. Love the ending, pitch-shifted
synth wash.
_586_
The taper inadvertantly hits pause about about 6:47 or so.
(this might refer to the beginning part of 586, which on the
soundboard version is 16:20 long)
After about 14:00, the tempo speeds up.
GaoBest reports the setlist as the following.
> 12-14-82 Old Melbourne Hotel, Perth
This means that tracks 7-9 are missing from the Gigography listing.
Norman Peters writes in:
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:20:12 +1100
Re: New Order gig guide.
I was at the one on 14 December 1982 at the Old Melbourne Hotel, Perth. The
support act was a local band called "House Above the World", led by Chris
Savage.
New Order came on late, and they were plainly tired - someone - Sumner? -
announced that as it was the end of the World Tour they had a right to be
tired. The Emulator keyboard played by Gilbert went badly out of tune and
caused the heckling referred to. It was generally a lousy gig, and they
couldn't wait to finish it.
Cheers
Norman Peters
Jan Bollansee has kindly transcribed the bootleg liner notes:
Reports from the homeland inform us that we could expect something
special. Originally members of 'Joy Division' until the untimely death
of Ian Curtis, they made the brave (and wise) decision to change the
name to 'New Order'. Initially they were 3, later to be joined by
Gillian Gilbert.
Now at last we have had the opportunity to see and hear the band
ourselves.
Speaking personally, I am now thinking of moving to Manchester, England,
this band has changed my way of life. To watch them live on stage is an
experience, truly amazing. The sheer beauty of their music shines out.
Now, Conco Records give 'YOU' the chance to share the magic of a 'New
Order' concert on this record.
Look out Manchester, I think you're about to receive a large number of
immigrants.
Mark Rushman
His comments regarding the recording:
"This is a pretty good, though by no means perfect audience recording.
There is, in fact, quite a bit of chatter from people in the vicinity of
the taper, but it's never distracting as no-one starts to sing along
(which is hardly unexpected seeing that the majority of the tracks
hadn't been released so far). Some of the exchanges are, in fact, kind
of funny and certainly add to the atmosphere of the recording (look out
for the comments about ear plugs and the bass playing). Enjoy!"
Sound quality ok, hissy. Not very good stereo seperation.
This is taken from the 'They Came... We Saw... Their Music Conquered."
bootleg.
My copy has sides A and B transposed, so A has _Leave___Me___Alone_,
_586_, _Ceremony_ , and B has Temptation through _We___All___Stand_.
_Temptation_
Brief dropout after the "green eyes, blue eyes, grey eyes" line.
_Dreams___Never___End_ is then played.
_Chosen___Time_
Male voice: "Should have brought yer earplugs."
Female voice: "I got them..."
Wonder if the female in question is Petra Kaiser...
_We___All___Stand_
Heckler yells out something profane, which the guy standing next to
the taper repeats.
BS: "Can I have a moment of silence, please?"
Make voice: "Pretty intense?"
Real drawn-out "At the end of the roo..oad".
Some improvisation about BS seeing his son (his son may have been born
around this time, who knows)
_Leave___Me___Alone_
taper: "He knows it's there, he knows it, a special quality."
A guy in the audience close to the recorder can be heard repeating
"All the bass is taped", which he repeats thrice...saying Hooky
plays only melodies. Poppycock, of course, New Order had long ago
stopped using backing tapes.
_586_
Heckler can be heard mouthing off crap.
BS then says: "Shut up, shitface!"
Somebody else says "Take a load of this", sounding amused at Barney's
crack.
This song mysteriously fades out halfway through.
Next songs on this tape are from "The Dream" bootleg (without
the Peel Session tunes)
See http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs81.html#NO-810327
Ceremony
Then there's some weird early 80's synth song with female vocals,
don't recognize the artist (end-of-side filler)
Back to the Melbourne gig:
_Your___Silent___Face_ breaks down about 15 seconds in.
Hooky says something unintelligable. Somebody comments they haven't
heard this one before, as there appear to have been no less than six
songs that hadn't been released.
YSF starts up again. Ending is somewhat abrupt.
There about 20 seconds of audience background, then Blue Monday kicks
in. Hooky says something about "a bit more of the high [?] in the
foldback", can't quite make it out.
This is only the fourth time BM had been played live.
Aside from the primitive sound of the drums, this version
is surprisingly mature. There's a big dropout in
the middle of the song, probably there in the source.
Blue Monday ends with the mellotronish "aah" sounds.
Straightforward versions of _Age___Of___Consent_ and _Ceremony_,
played a bit faster than normal.
Sound becomes a bit better.
John Frye found the following review of the performance by
Dave Roberts of Sounds:
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds2-83Live.htm
Frank Worral interviews Peter Hook and has a tidbit about
the show as well. It's the usual journalistic baiting
otherwise.
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM2-83.htm
Don't miss the bottom picture if you get a chance!
Your Silent Face appears in Fac71, of course. The audio
is monoaural.
Gillian is wearing a thin-strap pink tubetop. Hooky is
in a plain white T-shirt. The band are lit in that eerie
blue glow. Bernard's vocals sound double-tracked, and
yes, one of the pillars is in the way of the cameraman.
I have two copies of this. The first is on tape, not take from
the "New Dances" (missing Leave Me Alone) or "Radio Pictures"
(missing Truth) bootlegs. My copy is missing "Truth" and "Denial",
meaning it's probably from "New Dances" with Denial being left
off my cassette for space reasons.
The second is a second-generation copy, same master as the
prior, but with much more clear sound (thanks to booomboom
from sharethegroove.org for sharing)
Setlist: Your Silent Face, Temptation, Ceremony, Truth,
Leave Me Alone, Denial, 586, Age Of Consent, Blue Monday
_Your___Silent___Face_
Tidbits of a conversation can be heard through the intro.
guy: "What can anyone do?"
The guy says something else and the girl giggles.
PH: "A bit more bass drum through the front, please, Ed."
_Temptation_
Pleasant bass synth effect.
Fade between _Ceremony_ and _Leave___Me___Alone_ on boot-sourced
version. There's a fade between Leave Me Alone and _Denial_ on
the "booomboom" copy, as well as a cut between _586_ and
_Age___Of___Consent_.
_Blue___Monday_
punter: "John, Johnny Gilmore, Johnathan!"
Intro synth fades out to just the drumbeats, and then comes back
in.
punter: "...talk to me!"
CW says he has "Truth" from the soundcheck.
Soundcheck is from a newly surfaced source, taped from the Whitworth St.
side entrance.
_Your___Silent___Face_ appears in instrumental form. This is
the first time this track is aired on UK soil. One of the punters
is heard to say, "Aww...brilliant...is it possible?".
Bernard one-two's a few times for the sound crew to check vocal
levels. He then says, "Ed, less vocals." Presumably, Ed responds,
but his reply is difficult to make out among the din.
Then you can hear Hooky play _586_ bass bits, and then the following
conversation:
punter #1: "Ever Heard Of The Village?"
punter #2: "Wha'?"
and they're talking at the same time]
punter #2: "The Village?"
crew.
Then Hooky and presumably Oz exchange comments, there's a tape edit
at this point.
A vocal take of _586_ follows, followed by some keyboard parts, which
melds into _Blue___Monday_. Another unintelligable Hooky comment, and
then the sound of a motorbike passing by (remember, this was taped
outside the door). Than a vocal take of _Truth_ and a bunch of both
Barney and Hooky saying "one-two" to round things out.
Tape from 'Dave Mings' listed as M/2-ish.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Opens with some early-80s yuckage playing over the PA, before it
transitions into the dulcet tones of this masterpiece.
Punter yells at 1:02, "Get down you wanker!". Somebody else
follows up, "Get out". Lots of chatter simmering at the surface
during Barney's first verse. Hard to make it out but you can
hear "freaking out" at one point. At 2:07, somebody really
close to the mic says something like "Trixie", most mysterous.
Lots of calling out in the gap between songs, of course.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Bernard's intro a bit off key.
Band tunes up between songs.
_Ultraviolience_
A particularly good version.
lyric: "Burned my soul/in this hellhole"
On the BV version I have, after this you can hear a punter
mysteriously exclaim, "C'mon Julian" (twice) and "drop the
tenner"...and (a bit further away) a "C'mon Bernie".
_Chosen___Time_
A tiny bit of soundchecking before they start up. Whistling and
cheering at the end, and some shout outs.
_We___All___Stand_ follows.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Not the epic version of the old days, but a mere 4:14 in length.
Bernard Sumner's guitarwork being the highlight here.
_The___Village_
Last line before the refrain mentions "shit".
_Dreams___Never___End_
Punter says "wot's that?" at the start.
_Procession_
Cut at end, cutting out the first bit of the next song.
Other versions also split at this point.
_Hurt_ and _Temptation_ close out the set, each song having been a
seperate encore.
Hurt has a strange stuttering bit in this performance, listen for
it!
Soundcheck
About 85 minutes in length.
Sound quality's not that great. Lots of barely audible shouting
from the stage and muttering among the guys recording this.
Side A
You can hear the bootleggers talking for the first part, setting up.
"Where's Steve Morris? I'm sure he's on drums."
It's just a shakily-played keyboard melody, but it is identifiable
as Ecstasy, which as far as I know has never been played live.
Side B
"Wake up Barney!" (shouted from the stage)
"Probably quite rusty haven't played so long" (muttered near the recording mic)
The bootleggers are talking about miscellaneous and sundry things,
like how to get backstage, and can somewhat be heard, as there's
no playing.
"Steve was just the lad, going along for the ride"
Near the end, somebody starts singing "Inside me, Inside my soul"
(from Denial) The starstruck fan apparently was a loss for words
when Bernard and Stephen apparently came up to talk to them. Kind
of funny to hear the bootlegger talk about having just taped the
soundcheck before the tape runs out.
MP3 version can be found on Anthology Volume 5
Also have this on tape, appears to be taken from LP.
A superior version of the same (better stereo seperation)
taken directly from LP has been seeded on STG.
Like many of the earlier concerts, New Order are fairly
taciturn.
_586_ opens with a bit of _Your___Silent___Face_ mixed in, probably
a sequencer foulup.
Then follows a 1:40 sequence of never-before-heard and unreleased
music! The guitar does sound a bit like Everything's Gone Green,
though.
BS: "Just waiting for the sequencers to work."
_Age___Of___Consent_ has a different ending than standard.
The drumming for _Denial_ starts sluggish and picks up in tempo. Neat
trick.
Lots of clapping and cheering after Temptation concludes.
NO come back on and play In A Lonely Place as an encore.
_IALP_ has a bit of tinkering in the opening portion.
Source is a somewhat-hissy, but fairly good-sounding tape from
the archives. An even better 2nd version has surface that includes
all ten tracks.
_Ultraviolence_
Titled "Who Killed My Father" on the cassette, which is also
the first line. Intro has a neat slap-bass sound. There's a
cutout at 1:25. Hooky's bass cuts through Bernard's first
line in the second verse, and seems fairly pronounced.
_Chosen___Time_
Some chattering (in Swedish) between songs and during the intro.
Left channel dropout at 2:25 or so. Loud cheering after this is
done. Edit. On the complete version, Bernard say something
I can't make out, something like, "That's not the first..."
After a rousing version _Dreams___Never___End_, the band tentatively
start into _We___All___Stand_. _Senses_ follow. On the incomplete
version, the Volume on right channel drops and slowly rises again
from about 3:45 to 4:00. Ends with "shooting" synth songs.
Swedish punter sounds like he's saying "y'all kiss his grits",
heh.
BS: "All right, we're gonna slow everything down a little now, next
one's a ballad."
Titled "Cramp" on my cassette label, I wouldn't call _Hurt_ much of
a slowdown. Hooky's bass sound is especially dominating in the
live mix. A bit of an epic, this one, ending cheers fade out.
_The___Village_
Second time this one is played.
Hooky's bass fills differenciate this song from how it usually
sounds.
Ends in tuning guitars.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Hooky's plays the intro on the wrong string, or at the wrong pitch!
Vocals are low in the mix here. Some cut-outs between the 1:20 and
1:30 mark. (old version)
A/B flip at this point.
_Blue___Monday_
Bit of a false start, lasting about 20 seconds.
_Temptation_
The band go off for 15 minutes but finally come back on.
Lots of clapping at the start. Hooky tunes up a bit right
before the song starts up.
Melody Maker 26 Mar 82
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM3-83live.htm
NOTES
A bit over the top, however the conclusion is spot on.
There are numerous different live sources, ten by one account.
I've used one of these for the writeup, which was sourced by
TJ, and compared it to the one in my archives. The TJ version
appears to have been taped on the floor, while my archives version
was taped in the balcony.
The TJ version has about 5s of chatter before Bernard speaks.
The archives version starts in right away.
And it turns out I have another copy...lots of treble hiss
(dolby recording with non-dolby playback) but very good dynamics.
More audience before the start on this one than the above two.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "One two."
On archives version, somebody yells, "Play something different!"
Stereo shift at 3:58 (TJ), right at the end. A bit of guitar tuning,
and then Sumner busts out with a guitar riff (can't place it) that
causes folks to cheer.
_Hurt_
Cut at 1:44 on TJ version.
At 6:00 Barney starts repeating "Confusion", in anticipation of that
forthcoming song.
Weird chatter here, including somebody shouting out and folks
reacting...on the archives version you can hear a lady saying,
"That's weird." The second version I hear "that's brilliant."
Hooky then makes a weird repeated grunting song.
PH: "You're supposed to be fucking civilized!"
That gets a rise out of the crowd.
_The___Village_
Brief cut at 0:45 (TJ)...probably a transfer glitch. Another glitch at
2:46. Stereo field shift at 3:17.
Lots more raucous audience shouting, including this classic.
Hooky says something I can't make out, "...you..." something.
punter: "Dogshit on my boot, fucking puerile!"
(much closer on the TJ version than on the one in my archives)
_Ultraviolence_
Another glitch at 0:55...(TJ).
_Ceremony_
Glitch at 0:46. Another at 2:45. (TJ)
_ICB_
Hooky starts this one in a different key.
Punters speaking about getting drinks at the bar on the TJ tape.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Stereo field shift at 1:12.
lyrics: "I've got a big cock, and I need to tell yoooouuuu..."
Edit in the archives version at this point.
BS: "Thanks very much, even if you are 90% gay."
_Blue___Monday_
Slight glitch at 0:33 of this, almost sounds like they're starting it
over. Stereo field shift at 3:15, and another at 5:15.
_Your___Silent___Face_
Lots more audience shouting in front of this one.
PH: "What's that to do with us, [name]?"
Sounds like the recorder or something close to it gets dropped at
0:43 or so.
Soundcheck
Sound is pretty poor, sounds like it was recorded in a washtub.
Drumming, possibly of 'Blue Monday' parts, of all things.
A complete instrumental version of _Your___Silent___Face_ follows,
followed by samples from _Blue___Monday_, and then guitar form
_Leave___Me___Alone_, followed by basslines to _Age___Of___Consent_
and _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_.
Bernard then plays a riff that I've heard before that I can't
place.
Then a full take of _Blue___Monday_, followed by the guitar riff
of _ICB_, and then guitar and bass of _Transmission_ (lasts for
30 seconds or so). Tape ends with _ICB_.
Description from http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/neworder/no_disc/notapes.html
Bootleg lists:
the beach, in a lonely place (?), icb, dreams never end, "move back,
scooter blocking", (3 miles to go), leave me alone?, (I'm not the kind),
temptation, (heard you calling), "doors jammed, we can't get out",
everything's gone green
I looked this show up in AIFL. The author mentions
that Bernard had to ask the crowd to step back because a lot
of people were getting crushed against the stage. Right after
this, there was a "very important" announcement about a scooter
blocking some truck. The license # given matched the AIFL author's
scooter, and he rushed outside to find the scooter hosted high
into the air on some sort of fork lift! Peter Hook is heard to
announce something like "You better show some respect, 'cause there's
some big blokes up here that'll TEAR YOUR FUCKIN' 'EAD OFF!"
(see what he actually says below -ed.) At the end of the show
(before the encore) Bernard announces something about "the only
reason we're back is 'cause the door's jammed and we can't get out".
Anyway, all this talking is audible and intelligible on the tape,
unlike a lot of tapes (and concerts) where they're sayin' shit on the
stage the nobody can understand ;-)
From: "Tony Maddocks"
Sounds like the Brixton gig went down really well.
First time I saw NO was at the State in Liverpool I think it was '83 or 4.
Lucky to get 30 mins out of them then! The gig was marred by Manc/Scouse
banter "You bunch of lathargic Scouse bas@£ds", and so on. I remember Barney
snatching a camera out of some amxious guys hands only th photograph him and
return it! Great but short set. I was only thinking yesterday what a shame
we never hear Doubts or Dreams Never End live anymore.
Source MP3 on Anthology Part One. I have this elsewhere on at
least three separate tapes and two different CDs. The 'Confused
Dreams' bootlegs edits out a lot of the interesting between-track
bits.
_In___a___Lonely___Place_
PH: "This is the brass section. If the Jam can do it, I'm sure we can."
_Dreams___Never___End_
Essential performance of this classic.
_We___All___Stand_
BS: "Listen, you better move back. Everyone had better move back, right,
cuz a lot people are getting hurt and thrown."
Somebody comes up on stage...
" S.S..Sorry to interrupt you here but we got a very important announcement
here. There's someone who owns a scooter, SMG643Y, that's SMG643Y,
now if they can go and remove it, because it's causing obstruction
to one of the trucks. Thanks a lot, and don't spit at me."
This of course was the scribe Mark Johnson's scooter, New Order weren't
too happy with the way he was following the band and decided to play a
practical joke on him and have his scooter lifted up.
PH: "What's that? [smooch] Worth waiting for!"
Confused Dreams leaves this out, what a shame.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
PH: "16, I think. It's been a long time."
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "This one's a fast one for all you bollock brains."
_Temptation_
PH: "You shouldn't swear, there are several big blokes here that'll
RIP YER FUCKING 'EAD OFF"
_586_
NO call out "Confusion!" during the chorus.
_Everythings____Gone___Green_
BS: "One, two! Listen, we've only come back on because the door's
jammed and we can't get out."
(mp3 has Bernards announcement about why they came back edited out)
"A halo that covers my balls..."
End has song fading out to a reggae tape...
Tape I have marked as second generation. Quality very good, gig
well-recorded. Setlist on nogig is correct. A few other versions
exist as well.
Sounded like a fairly rowdy gig, with technical problems.
Guess that's normal for Mancs playing to Scousers.
_586_
PH: "We'll wait till..."
(you can hear a keyboard line from BM at a couple of points)
Hooky blurts out something about four minutes in. The first few
minutes consist of simply the bass riff, as NO is presumably
trying to get stuff to work right. Song lasts a total of
more than ten minutes.
_Procession_
PH: "A bit more light please, Andy."
(a moment later)
"A little bit more, mate."
(a moment after that, sounding a tidge consterned)
"Andy, a little bit more light please!"
The start of _Dreams___Never___End_ falls apart a bit.
_Your___Silent___Face_
(crowd is apparently not hearing what they want to hear and getting
rowdy...somebody can be heard to cry out "Get on with it, you fuckers!)
BS: "Shhhhhhhh...."
Long break between YSF and _We___All___Stand_, you can hear the crowd getting
more restless.
_Ultraviolence_ follows. Lovely synth effect at the end, which continues
through the pause between tracks.
_The___Village_
People can be heard shouting for their JD favorites like Transmission
and Warsaw, there's a long break between Ultraviolence and The Village.
BS: "You tell us what to play and we *won't* play it!"
Punters cries out for Ceremony and Warsaw.
BS: "Airight, this one's by the Human League, we're into cover versions
now."
PH: (tsks-tsks) "Whatever happened to tolerance?"
PH: "Wot?"
Finally, after a long time, the track starts.
PH: "Well, clap along with it!"
_Age___Of___Consent_
Bernard says something at the start I can't make out.
Ends with a Hooky bass solo that goes on for about a minute, and elicits cheers.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
BS: "Sorry, we've got huge technical problems."
_Ceremony_
PH: "This is the one that Sequential Circuits have been waiting for.
No. Ready? A bit of light Andy onstage, please!"
Sequential Circuits Prophet V's with the original chipset, forget what
it's called at the moment, are notoriously unreliable and detune quickly,
so maybe that was the problem in this case.
(after song is through)
BS: "Ah, we're finished, you can go home."
Seems to be a common source that starts with the opening of _Truth_
cut a bit.
Ends in a couple of bass notes.
A bit of guitar and a drum beat before Hooky leads off the next
song, _Leave___Me___Alone_.
_Hurt_ has an unusual drum-and-bass type opening, as I presume
the band were having some eqipment issues.
Followed by _Chosen___Time_, which one audience member greats
with a whoop.
There's a cut after this song, I presume there was a long pause
numbers.
Somebody can be heard calling for Warsaw.
BS: "Can't understand ya, you...you fanatic bastards."
BS: "See, you're all right...go on..."
Someone else who sounds like John Cooper Clarke can be heard
saying something about busting out with chicken(?)...a few other
'interesting' audience shouts as well, but that's out the
BS: "See, we'll have the lot of ya after, in the dressing room.
We're from Manchester."
More banter...
BS: "And I can't even know ya..."
Then _Ultraviolence_ starts.
Some guitar soundchecking (a but of a VU riff) before the start
of _Everythings___Gone___Green_.
The near-tribal drumming of _Denial_ follows.
Another long pause between numbers.
A couple of bass notes. Somebody breaks a beer bottle.
Punter calls out, "Drugs, drugs."
BS: "Just what you need for keeping ag...up to...sc.."
[can't fully make out]
Off mic, Hooky is heard to say, "No, no, no no, we're very tolerant
about it."
A guitar lead gets plugged in.
Somebody mentions Tony Wilson, always a popular name in Liverpool.
punter: "Git your arse into gear!"
BS: (directed at a heckler, presumably) "I see you...yeah, I know,
don't come to one of our gigs, please..."
PH: "I know you're from Manchester but I don't trust you."
A shout of 'Joy Division' follows. And are...
PH: "Here's one for you rebels..."
Hooky plays a little bass riff...and then the sequencer for
_Blue___Monday_ finally finishes loading up.
_Temptation_ is the final song in the set.
First appearance of New Order on TOTP. Unlike the rest of their
contemporaries, they performed their hit live. Barney sports a
blue denim jacket and dreamy eyes. The four minute edit version
would be featured on a number of other '83 gigs. At the end,
Barney looks at Hooky, who smiles.
Better quality PAL->NTSC dub.
Tracks aired:
_Age___Of___Consent_
A bit more serious than their previous appearance on TOTP.
This version of Blue Monday has a unique opening sample
not present anywhere else...starts out with "And there was light..."
_Confusion_
The debut!
taper: "Barney's playing bass!"
_Age___Of___Consent_ and _Procession_ follow.
The latter includes some alternate lyrics, the specifics I will
note at some future point.
lyrics: "Your live is your own, your life is your own, I need you
to stop."
Then _In___A___Lonely___Place_ followed by _Leave___Me___Alone_.
After last "leave me alone" line, Barney goes "Fuck off."
_Senses_ also has the extra verse when started appearing during
the '83 live dates.
Hooky calls out "Ready?" off-mic at the start.
At this point, there's an edit and break on the tape between the
last number and _586_.
There's quite a racket and Bernard giggles throughout the second
verse, as well as hitting notes not otherwise recommended. Some
improv lyrics and swearing.
lyric: "In the future, when you want me up your fanny.
I will help you / when you call out for that twat."
BS: "How was that, [can't make out] *spit*...how's that for
professionalism?"
Folks cry out for all sorts of stuff. New Order settle for _Denial_.
Slight droput between the end of the last song and _Temptation_.
Barney also throws in a guitar bit from somewhere.
Some alternative lyrics in this, too.
More folks shouting out for their favorites.
BS: "I'll take Ceremony over a fucking ambulance."
Hooky twangs his bass.
BS: "That's a big one and a smaller one."
Lots more shouting out before _Blue___Monday_ starts up.
BS: "A bit more DMX, Ed."
The intro gets a bit pear-shaped. Vocals get 'interesting' at points.
Soundcheck
Starts with the tail end of _Procession_, a full take of _ICB_ followed
by _Temptation_, which on this tape is only the ending.
At the start of _ICB_ somebody yells out something about a DMX.
Courtesy of cmkcmk on DIME.
Here's what he had to say:
"To warn you at the outset, Your Silent Face is all over the place tape
speed wise. But apart from that this is a superb show in the be-chandeliered
Assembly Rooms and well worth having. It is crystal clear and a great show.
The Wake supported this night with Bobby Gillespie borrowing Hooky's bass
for the show. As was once said elsewhere on the sleevenotes to The Wake CD
reissues, there were moments of confusion during the early part of The Wake's
set as to whether it was The Wake or New Order as New Order weren't the
most visible of bands in terms of press photos and appearances at this
time.
This was their second open to all ages show in Edinburgh following on
from the previous night's show at the local roller disco 'Coasters'...
and my second new order show. Over the next few nights I went up to
St Andrews and then Glasgow to see them, but this I think was the best
of them.
New Order are on fine form - Barney hitting the notes, mix full of
trademark early 80s echo and delays and 'Dreams Never End' and 'Ceremony'
are blistering. The echo on the drum after Hooky half shouts 'soul' in
Dreams Never End sent a chill down my spine that night. Ceremony is at
the usual breakneck speed of the times.
I got this show at a record fair, but not until 1987. it was also not
from the usual new order bloke and without the usual sort of cover - it
came in a normal tape box with the standard sony inlay with writing on
it. Up to then I had never been able to find a copy for sale.
I don't know exactly where it was recorded as the crowd were pretty wild
that night and they sound a bit distant on the tape.
There are some poor edits between the songs which were on the original
tape and as I said, 'Your Silent Face' is a bit all over the place until
the tape speed settles. This could be sorted with pitch adjustment
software and patience. I have the former but little of the later sadly!"
Another version via TJ also exists.
Transcription
_Your___Silent___Face_
The tape speed is indeed 'fact' until about 3:47. (CNK)
Squeal edit between songs on the CNK version. The TJ version has a
cut here, with the first part of the next song missing.
_Hurt_ and _Dreams___Never___End_ follow.
Strange lower-pitched-than-normal bass sequencer on _Ultraviolence_ as
well as on _We___All___Stand_.
Another squeal edit between tracks. (CNK)
A/B split on the TJ version.
_Truth_
Syndrum is really loud here.
_The___Village_ also has speed issues here....or maybe it was played
fast!
PH: "Pause for thought."
Squeal edit _Chosen___Time_ and a blistering _Ceremony_, where Bernard
repeats 'forever, forever, forever' as the final lyric.
_Confusion_
Second time it makes an appearance, the tape is quickly faded out.
Thanks to TJ for supplying the recording, which is about first or second
generation.
Stephen Smith also has a version that's a bit different, he writes:
"My cassette is a bit lacking in the higher frequencies unfortunately,
not sure how many generations this one is (I got it from a guy who sold
live tapes in our town). Probably one for completists only.
Audience chatter to start with, one guy says 'Why do you always stand behind
the giants?â' SSomeone else says something about a bald eagle, which I take
it means there was a bald guy in front of them.
_Blue___Monday_
This is the short version. About thirty seconds of audience chatter before
this starts out with SM banging real drums, right before the drum machine
kicks in.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Fairly unusual to see this so early in the set.
_Procession_ is followed by _Your___Silent___Face_.
Bernard sings 'why don't you fuck off?' as the signature line.
_The___Him_ is next.
BS: "Will the er, person who threw beer on stage at the beginning kindly see
us in the dressing room cos we'd like to buy him another one afterwards."
(thanks to Stephen Smith for supplying)
_Leave___Me___Alone_
Falters a bit past midway as Hooky hits a bum note, and all but the drums
stop.
The final five seconds or so is cut.
Stephen Smith: "No cut on my cassette, plays right through."
Some guitar soundchecking in front of _Ceremony_.
Stephen Smith: "In between songs one guy shouts to his pal "Tam", who shouts
back 'See you outside at the phone box when it's finished, right.'"
_586_
Syndrum plus real drums. KW1 sequencer kicks off briefly by mistake,
a byproduct of the sequencers failing so they jammed into the Velvets
_Sister___Ray_ until fixed by the roadies.
Sample lyrics:
'I saw you on the inside'
Very cool reverb effects.
PH: "Spent three weeks working on that one."
_Dreams___Never___End_
PH: "This is one for band that follows us we call 'Bollock Brains'.
TJ notes that this was added to the set because of their sequencer problems.
(at end)
PH: "Well, that was one of you fuckers then."
_Confusion_
Third ever performance.
Vocals start off pretty dire.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ finishes off the set.
lyric: 'Blood that was special for none'
Ends in synth effects.
Tape squeal at end.
Stephen Smith: "No squeal at the end of my cassette, just synth effects and an
audience cheer."
Some tape hiss on the tape I have, which has only a portion
of the performance (Hurt, Truth, and ICB). I subsequently
received a CD from GaoBest for the full performance (taped by
MB, who did the rest of the Glasgow gigs) with naturally stunning
SQ.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Hello, everyone"
There's a breakdown after about 30 seconds. Hooky comments:
PH: "It's the 'A' version."
BS: "All right, this is my life..."
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ gets played next.
A few bass notes in between. This is the TOTP edit version.
_Hurt_
Quite a bit of cooing and whooping on this one.
Intro bit changes a bit in midstream before the vocals kick
in.
"We can take you...anywhere you want" also,
lots of "take me take take" chanting...
It's always an a joy to listen to this one, damn
Brian Edge for calling this song a "Duran Duran outtake".
I also have _Truth_ and _ICB_.
The guitar intro on ICB is quite good. Hooky can be
clearly heard doing backing vocals.
_Senses_
This version has these extra lyrics:
"Too fast and furious
_586_
The Order (namely) Gillian triggers the intro to Hurt by mistake.
BS: "Why do women have legs? So they don't leave a trail like a slug."
PH: "Can I be a [???] while you got the gloves on?"
(this appears to have been somebody who was gobbing at Hooky)
Very energetic performance.
_Age___Of___Consent_
PH: "Well you know I got spit all over over my guitar. Where are the
Blackburn boys when you need 'em, eh?"
_Temptation_
PH: "What a pleasure to be here tonight to be spat at by this bastard
with the gloves on, it's really really fuck all."
Long break between this one and the next song. Stephen hits his cymbals
plenty of times, though.
Are New Order going to play _Blue___Monday_ again? Why, yes they are!
I assumed this was due to it being a mess the first time and because
the first version was the special TOTP edit, and this was the full-bore
rendition.
BS: "A bit more DMX."
_Confusion_
(a part of what he was saying is missing from the tape due to the edit)
BS: "...can you not be fucking ready when you were ready?"
BS: "All right, for those of you with, eh, brains, we're just waiting
for the sequencer to load its memory, all right? So you gotta stand
here along with us."
Fourth time they've performed this one.
From Doug Scoular:
"Just a note that the Orient Cinema, Ayr gig didn't actually happen
at that venue. It was changed to Ayr Pavilion after the tickets were
printed."
I was there, and still have the ticket with the wrong venue indicated.
They were supported by The Wake, by the way."
Decent sound, not great (all known copies seem to stem from a
version recoreded and/or played back with Dolby C), with vocals
fairly well-defined. At least until shakepiggie's DIME seed
showed up, which is likely from the better of the two known
recordings.
The opener, _Ceremony_, has an additional/different improvised
lyric.
"Oh why do I play so badly, play in time my sh... can't stand me."
_Ultraviolence_
BS: "Sorry we're so late but we had a little, eh, Ultraviolence
to cope with..."
_Chosen___Time_
Somebody calls out "Manchester!" at the start.
_We___All___Stand_
Starts with slowly strummed guitars instead of the bass synth.
Nice.
A little bit of _Sister___Ray_ thrown in between here, maybe while
they were waiting for their synths to load up for _The___Village_.
Some variations:
'Our love is like the earth, the sun, the beach, and the dirt'
The band soundcheck a bit between songs.
_Everything___Gone___Green_ has somewhat different sounding
sequencer parts than normal, but other than that New Order
proceed to run through their typical set around that time,
with _Denial_, _Age___Of___Consent_ and _Temptation_ following.
The end of _IALP_ has filter sweeps.
Tape edit for encore which is _Blue___Monday_. Plenty of cries for that.
Don't know who says this, wonder in fact if it's Steve Morris, it does
sound a bit like him.
SM: "Thank you very much. All right. See one of you later, y'alright?"
Someone with a Scottish accent reintroduces them.
False start to Blue Monday.
Compere yells out "New Order", as a reintroduction. Fans continue to
chant.
PH: "Shh...a moment of silence for the dead we left behind in Glasgow!"
[a moment later] And these are the ones that left 'em for fucking dead,
right?"
Needless to say, this encore is a shambles, but is very fun listening
nonetheless.
Bernard laughs through one of the lyrics, as well as trying
to speak his way through the second verse...as well as an ad-lib
at the end that sounds like "how does it feel when your butt
don't march..." (clarifying what he's singing would be appreciated)
Also a fairly unique sounding bass sequencer riff, as well as lots
of sampled "W-R-L"s at the end (Confusion wasn't played that night)
A version of the classic that even Mike Garrity would love.
Tape I have about 4th generation.
Gigography lists 5 songs, obviously they played more than this
but I haven't run into anything listing what they are yet.
Looks like the songs we have were from midway to the end.
My version has _Your___Silent___Face_ cut off at the beginning, and
there's another dropout about 2:15 or so in.
BS: "'k you."
_Procession_
PH: "Slight pause before."
There's a unique thirty second interlude between Procession and
_Everythings___Gone___Green_.
New Order do a bit of instrument tuning between _Temptation_ and _Confusion_.
Nice version of Confusion, except it cuts out on the version I have.
Bernard starts off with a few bass plucks. The lyrics are still
in development, reflecting that this song had been debuted just
11 days ago.
BS: "Our lives still haven't changed from the past to the future"
is an example.
Lyrics repeat "people are stupid" bit quite a few times as well.
BS: "Thank you very much..."
_Leave___Me___Alone_
lyric: "And from my head to my toes, from my eyes to my balls,
every time I see the [oops]."
Here's the setlist.
(+) audience tape has this in full, so does the FM rebroadcast
It was subsequently determined by "Johnny James" this was interpolated
from a different show.
(*) not part of FM broadcast...appears on a audience recording that is
inserted in the FM copy I have.
53 minutes
I have this on tape...the gig date had been listed as 18 APR 83, though some
sources list the date as 24 APR 83, which seems to be the consensus
these dates, and better fits with the other Irish dates at around that
time.
Johnathan Scott adds:
From: "Jonathan Scott"
The Rosehill "This is my Ceremony guitar" Hotel gig was broadcast on
Radio One here in the UK by (I think) Richard Skinner and at the time,
was one of the best New Order live shows available. Radio One were very
lucky to get the band in such a good mood. Considering the bands history,
I was surprised at the time that the BBC would risk the cost of a mobile
unit on a potential waste of time like New Order! Just imagine if they
had recorded the Edinburgh Playhouse gig...wow...
Anyone who has NOT heard this show should make a real effort to as it is
(IMHO lol!) fantastic.
Jonathan, Glasgow.
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:17:24
Radio one broadcast this twice. I'm sure one of the times was a joint
John Peel / David Jensen show. My copy has the boom of the news jingle
cutting in during Blue Monday, I don't know if that was the first or
second broadcast.
Parts of this gig, including 'that' version of Ceremony is available on
Audiogalaxy.
Regards,
Snotters says:
"...that BONG 19 seconds into Blue Monday is on all the versions I've heard
- including the Radio London FM broadcast I have and the Radio 1 medium
wave broadcast in 83."
Making it likely this is present on the medium the BBC use for playback...
Transcription
I could be wrong about my copy being an audience recording...the stereo
seperation is amazingly good and the sound very well defined, especially
the drumming.
_We___All___Stand_
A fairly delicious version of this tune.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
A bit of buzzing at the very start. There's a volume drop about 2:50 in,
the rest of the recording stays at the lowered level. I wonder if this
is a problem with my copy or with the master? (audience tape, not FM)
_Denial_
(at the end)
BS: "Thanks very much. Very kind of you."
NO immediately get into The Village. Opening riff is a bit off...
Odd couplet spotting:
"Our love is like the earth, the sun, the trees, and the afterbirth"...
and...
"From the heaven to the city
BS: "Thanks very much. Did I say how grateful we are? If you want to
hear Temptation, we'll play it for you."
What was cut from the BBC broadcast but has been restored in the video
included with the PC&L boxset is the following.
BS: "So we do care about our audiences....especially girls with big tits."
PH: "Sexist humor."
_Temptation_
Weird intro bass riff...sounds like a pooch being strangled...really!
BS: "Oh, thanks very much. See, basically, we're very misunderstood.
We love people, really."
PC&L boxset video adds:
BS: "Especially Irish people. In fact, this is my favorite town in
Ireland...oh, thanks very much, it's nice of you..."
And then Hooky pulls out a piece of paper...
PH: "Now I've been told here on this little piece of paper...who's Matthew
Carney?"
Matthew Carney, calling out from the audience: "I am, I am"....
PH: "Ah, you're a cunt."
PH: "Matthew Carney, there's a telephone call for you at reception. You've
missed out on a bottle of wine, but never mind."
_Confusion_
Barney tests out the bass (assuming this is their usual live arrangement
while Hooky makes a comment)
PH: "This is our nightly request box, so keep shouting!"
This song was supposedly not complete in the FM broadcast, but it
appears to be complete here. Update: Confusion is complete in
the latest BBC rebroadcast.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Seems the tempo is faster here than I've ever heard them play this song.
It's almost catchy. That's because it's playing too fast!
This song was left out of the FM broadcast. In fact, it's not from this
gig at all, according to "Johnny James", but was taken from a different
recording, and indeed does not appear on the video included on the
PC&L boxset.
The band then play _Age___Of___Consent_. With a guitar break suspiciously
like Sister Ray. The FM version has this crossfaded from the end of
Confusion.
_Blue___Monday_
Side two of my tape opens with the ending bass riffs of Age Of Consent,
and somebody repeatingly calling out for Ceremony. But the Order first
play Blue Monday, the 1983 Top Of The Pops edit version(!)
There's a flub in the lyrics where Barney and Hooky are singing different
things. Also the way Sumner pronounces "go down to the beeeassh" is
pretty funny. And of course, the BBC1 "bong" jingle mentioned earlier
at 0:19 in.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Brief break in soundboard source used on PC&L boxset DVD at start.
BS: "Do you really want us to play Everything's Gone Green? Alright,
we'll play it!"
There's a skip a little before a minute in...right when somebody says
"hey" so it might have been in the source rather than just a skip in
my copy.
On the PC&L boxset video, Bernard says "bye everyone", confirming that
the band would indeed come back out for an encore.
Audio cuts out so very hard to make out here.
BS: "We've never...this sone...before....it's very nice..."
BS: "Actually, we did an encore last night.
_Ceremony_
BS: "This is my, uh, Ceremony guitar. I only ever play Ceremony with
this. 1959 Les Paul, but it just suits Ceremony, you know what it's like,
don't you?" Bernard plays a bit of the lead riff before the band kick in
with a wonderful version of this.
Brian Clough, posting on the WIM forum, states:
"He was talking shite at Kilkenny, he's never had a 1959 Les Paul !! The
guitar he was referring to at that gig was his 1961 ES335, which as you
will all know was a completely different shape and type to a 1959 Les
Paul ! The only connection was that both were made by Gibson."
He sings of avenues paved with gold...
Skip at 3:07 on my copy of this, probably on the source of the
particular FM recording I have.
Bernard says "thank you very much...thanks very much" during the
"Forever...letting me know lines".
And then...we have the following gem...
BS: "Thank you. Thanks very much. So pleased to see you all here.
I'm so pleased you like Ceremony. [Bernard raises voice] I'm so
pleased you like Temptation. (Hooky shouts affermation) I'm so
pleased you like Blue Monday. (Hooky: "Yeah!") Straight from Top
Of The Pops, we have New Order! On my left, I have Peter Hook.
On my right, I have Gillian Gilbert. Behind me, I have Ian Curtis."
Hooky says something hard to make out, something about people.
They conclude.
BS: "Thank you...that really is the end. Bye, everyone!"
Some people say they were really happy, but I think they're
actually just practicing their own inimitable form of satire
for the benefit of the broadcast.
This copy is sourced from the wolfram archives, about average quality for the time.
_Your___Silent___Face_ starts off the recording, followed by _Age___Of___Consent_,
and _Dreams___Never___End_, followed by _586_.
Very little in the way of band talking between tracks here, at least until you
can hear a male punter asking a female cohort where she was going and doubting
she could get a better view.
At the end, there's more chatter as the instruments clatter to a close.
Lots of shouting betwen tracks with folks shouting out for "Everything's Gone Green"
_ICB_
PH: "Must of the acts of the town that [can't make out] we're in".
(at end)
BS: "Thank you. [can't make out what he says right after]
Tape split between ICB and _Ceremony_.
Some of the fan shouts make it hard to make out what the band is telling them.
BS: "Just so these guys have[?] Two years ago here, no chance.
PH: "...you all...[?] you're a fucking nice audience, and we play everywhere.
A bit more taper chatter about 30s in.
_Temptation_ follows.
BS: "All right, the title of the next song is called..."
I guess he was slowly teasing it, as the audience start to stop and chant for more.
There's another tape cut....
Somebody yells off mic.
BS: "Okay, this one is called 'go home'". Fans boo.
But then the band relents and starts to play _Confusion_, which is delightfully
choppy.
Then follows a unique syndrum squence, which is not unlike the interlude between
We All Stand and 5-8-6....not sure if they were having technical problems or
were just being difficult.
BS: "So that's what happens when you get older....so that's what happens whenever
you get excited ... offstage."
At about the two minute mark, Bernard starts talking, "a bit of ...
far away from the football, a success I must say..." is all I can make out here.
This continues for a minute more and then transforms to _Blue Monday_
This track cuts off about the last minute or so.
Aside from opening with "Love With Tear Us Apart"
(with football-style chanting by the audience), the only
really interesting part happens when NO goes to play the
final song.
BTW, both my tape copies as well as the MP3 from the Lars Nelleman
anthology are missing Senses and Truth, FWIW. However, I've since
got the excellent copy seeded by davemings that includes these.
The running order of my second copy is:
LWTUA, Age Of Consent, Blue Monday, Leave Me Alone,
Denial, Everything's Gone Green, Temptation, Confusion.
The fourth and subsequent tracks are faded in and out.
This seems to be the same as the 'Birmingham 83' boot, except that
lists 'Your Silent Face', which must be an error, as that song wasn't
played here.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Part_
Gillian howler, she messes up the intro synth riff.
After LWTUA finishes, Hooky can be heard saying "Happy Birthday, Rob!"
at the end. Lots of singalong on this. The opening synth falters,
and then regains its footing. Barney forgets the lyrics at at
least one point in the song.
_Blue Monday_ has a interesting deviation:
lyric variation (about 1:40 in):
"Now i stand here waiting
More interestingly, this seems to be a soundalike of the TOTP version!
The song lasts four minutes as opposed to the usual 7-8 minute rendition.
_Denial_
BS: "Good evening punters, I hope you're all enjoying yourselves..."
The drums kick in.
BS: "This is for the punk twatters amongst you. It's called, eh...I
don't know what it's called, actually."
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Has interesting final bit with Hooky's echoed bass.
_Temptation_
Last lyrics of Barney's are improvised.
lyric: "I've never seen such a twat like you before."
(edit)
Barney strums guitar in between the tracks.
_Confusion_
PH: "I'm getting paid for it, though..." (cheering)
Somebody calls for Sister Ray.
BS: "Okay, this next one involves use of a Sequential Circuits
ten thousand note memory sequencer..."
Of course it messes up and Bernard mumbles something unintelligable.
I can't 100% vouch for what I'm hearing, but Bernard's improvising lyrics
on Confusion strangely...
BS: "You just won't believe when I tell you all how bad this is!"
(Hooky does backing using the standard line)
lyrics:
"Hiding your feelings
Your tits are so big
BS: "Thanks very much."
Ends with repeated synth note until fade-out.
Craig Wood writes:
"I was front circle, first row. I got comped in that night, they'd sold out
of actual tickets and I had a letter from Barry Hime (major ticket seller-
he founded the Piccadilly Box Office ticket agency) to the promoter. It did
get me in, though.
My friend Kim (who lived in Hanley) suggested we head straight upstairs,
better view, no 'football hooligan' fans getting in the way, and I could
record and take pictures uninterrupted. Ever thoughtful, our Kim. The
security at Hanley was always a bit over-zealous, I had to be careful again
later that year when I recorded EC on the Punch The Clock tour after the
Hacienda show got pulled...
I remember that this was the show where Barney kept taking off layers of
clothing. He must have been wearing about five shirts or jumpers or
coats.... eventually he got down to his Bundeswehr (sp?) vest - which
became a must-have fashion accessory soon after. Even *I* had one...
bought it in Oasis in Manchester, 3 pounds for a copy, 4 for an original.
I took the original. I wonder what happened to it..."
Source kindly provided by MM.
_Your___Silent___Face_
A bit of instability in the tape source at the start, but clears up
within thirty seconds.
Someone calls out for 'Confusion'
_Ceremony_
PH: "This one's for all you rocking horses in the audience."
_Ultraviolence_
PH: "Music being the food of love, play on."
Someone calls out "Rob", and mutters something inaudible from here.
_Procession_ follows.
_We___All___Stand_ is next.
Slight cut between this and _ICB_.
_586_ follows.
PA hum and feedback.
Hooky says something again, like "turn off..."
At about 2:30 the sound goes all pear shaped, as a security person
spots the recorder and bellows "That is not allowed!". At this point
the first source ends and the second source (which I'd guess is the
usual one) begins.
_Blue___Monday_
Bit of a keyboard solo at the 1:30 mark.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ finishes up the set.
A *very* interesting piece with the persenter asking first
Steve and then Barney about the various sounds their keyboards
make. You can hear pieces of "Confusion". Steve makes a joke
about somebody being shrunk down to fit into the drum synth.
Barney's crossing his arm and giggling at everything.
After which, the Order perform _Blue___Monday_. Hooky has
his trademark leather jacket. You also get a closeup of
Steve inserting floppies in the Emulator.
_Confusion_
Spacey drumming and guitar feedback for about 45 seconds (waiting
for the sequencers to load?), with Hooky yelling "Liar!" or something
like that, and then "Oi! Let's go!"
Bernard's bass solo here is exceptionally good. Shortly before 6:00
in the bass gets louder in the mix (probably taper manual level
adjustment)
PH: "Ah, what do you want to hear? Fuck you."
_Ceremony_ and _Chosen___Time_ follow.
The bass synth can barely be heard initially, I assume whoever was mixing
this had their hands full, as the vocals also come in late.
_The___Village_ follows, and then _In___A___Lonely___Place, featuring
an extended bass outro.
PH: "If you like reggae, you'll like this." Last word is obscured by
a loud guitar chord. Rather than something like We All Stand, we instead
get _Your___Silent___Face.
Then follows about three seconds of a way-too-fast 5-8-6, and then
another two second airing of the bass synth.
PH: "two...three".
_Cries___And___Whispers_
The Order squelch the final gurgling of their wayward synth and play
this instead.
BS: "Thank you very much."
Punter repeatedly cries out for Everything's Gone Green, and is informed
by Bernard that "that's the one after this one".
_5___8___6_ is then aired, at the right speed this time.
_Everythings___Gone____Green_
And indeed, Bernard keeps his promise and the band play this number.
The speed gremlins attack instead at 2:55. The song ends with a
repeating Hooky solitary note.
_Blue___Monday_ closes out the set.
Obtained on CD from GaoBest.
NOOL has a review done by 'nwMarco', here:
http://www.neworderonline.com/Live/Concert.aspx?ConcertID=226
This mentions that 'Almost Anyone' (which were a couple of friends of his)
opened for them. A recording of that does exist.
Taped by RH, who made digital copies, one of which ended up in GaoBest's
clutches. To quote:
"...who used D5. He sold parts of his collection in the early '90s
then made copies from his master tapes to CDR for one of my contacts..."
Gig SQ is as-usual excellent, as these are first-gen or close to it.
Soundcheck SQ is maybe 2nd generation, hard to tell as recording volume
was low, an interesting listen.
_Ultraviolence_
Bass-synth intro with some scratchy/jangly guitar.
BS: "Thank you very much. This one's for eh, [a name, surname
sounds like 'Bock and Markie']...before they get here."
Some guitars, one-second-in false bass start, and then Dreams Never End
commences.
The intro for the next song sounds like an interesting cross between
Everything's Gone Green and Temptation, but only because it turns out
some stuff got triggered in error. False start.
BS: "We all make mistakes...[you know?]..."
Then New Order start over with a nice rendition of _Temptation_.
_Procession_
Barney strains his vocal range for "the life keeps getting stranger
every day part".
_Leave___Me___Alone_
BS: "Gary, Gary, could you [turn up(?)] my vocals a bit clearer on
stage, please. A bit more, eh, 8k, no, 1k."
Lots of cheers and whistles after this one.
_Truth_
This version sounds massive.
_586_
End is nice echo-effects. The group exhibits getting creative with their
instrumentation here.
_Denial_ follows.
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Cassette deck...this next song..."
Some instrumental noodling before _Confusion_, which features more
sampled vocals being manipulated.
Hook Line:
PH: "Any requests?"
Folk cry out, of course.
PH: "We don't do requests, so fuck..."
Yet the punters are still calling out, you can hear a girl cry out
for "Mony Mony", and of course, the omnipresent "Transmission".
_Blue___Monday_
People clap to the intro.
Barney Says:
"How does it feel when your cock grows stiff"
Lots of other synth effects in this one.
Soundcheck:
Rough description of the proceedings. Taper and some buddies
provide some running commentary. They sound all like Americans,
with one sounding like he's from the area the gig was played.
Here are the bits and pieces I've been able to pick up.
Denial (drums)
First-gen tape copy.
_Your___Silent___Face_
The very start is missing.
Levels start high and drop after a couple of seconds.
Sounds like tape speed issues, as it runs a semitone fast up
until the 1:16 point. Likely the tape speed slider on the
recording device got bumped by mistake, and was only noticed
after a minute or so. Levels drop at 1:22, and go back up
at 1:43.
_Chosen___Time_ follows.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Folks start screaming when Bernard sings "I've lost you".
BS: "Can we have for... acoustic snare drum playing through
the foldback just a bit?"
Punter yells, "Can you hear that?"
_Temptation_
BS: "A bit of electronic snare drum as well."
A Fan cries a few times between 1:45 - 2:30, sounds like they're
saying "eat shit".
BS: "Thanks very much. [can't make out first part of this]
...half the shit on my mic."
_We___All___Stand_
Internal cut at about 2:00.
_Senses_
Includes extra verse common to the 1983 renditions of this
song.
_Hurt_
Melodica melody is a bit different than usual.
punter: "Hey idiot, turn up the vocals!"
Oh my God, actual valley girls.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Lots of chattering going on during the middle of this.
Edit between EGG and _Ceremony_ , which is missing the first few
seconds.
_Confusion_.
More valley girl chatter at start.
John Darnielle sent the following in reminiscing about this show, which
I am thankful to be able to share with you:
"Hi there! I was just thinking about a gig I attended a million years ago,
and I found myself at your site. It was the 23/6/83 gig at Billy Barty's
Roller Fantasy in Fullerton. (The promoter, Goldenvoice, was trying to get
people to call it "The Fantasy" but nobody was buying it...roller disco had
been a big deal in southern California a few years before.)
A few things I remember:
Despite all that I loved the show - the adversarial feel was somehow
appropriate for the time, or for my age. I was sixteen.
That's all I've got, and it isn't much, but I thought you might find it
interesting."
Regarding the recording:
Have a 3rd/4th gen-sounding copy of this performance, since upgraded
to first-generation.
_Blue___Monday_
Sound levels for the first minute fluctuate, quiet for the first 20
seconds, and then get louder for 10 seconds, and go back down. Again,
this doesn't seem to be present on the first-gen, which may be a
different recording.
Cheering at 1:34.
_Leave___Me___Alone_ follows.
Sounds like a rough edit into _The___Village_. The first gen doesn't
have this edit.
And right at the start, it sounds like Hooky is saying, "Oh baby" or
something similar, not very loudly.
The sequencer pattern sounds slightly different than wont.
The first-gen does sound like there's an edit between The Village and
_Cries___And___Whispers_, which is quite an excellent rendition.
lyric: "Someday, we'll find / That truth is not to find..."
Brief edit on first-gen.
_ICB_
BS: "Listen, if you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan. If you
like this, you like fucking anything."
After "taken from a killing ground, an all-providing hand..." is sung,
Bernard yells, "More vocals." The 3rd/4th gen version distorts briefly
for a couple of seconds shortly thereafter, this isn't present on the
first-gen copy.
Another tape edit into _In___A___Lonely___Place_. (higher-gen version).
No edit on M/1.
Then _Ultraviolence_, which ends in a neat synth effect.
_Procession_ follows.
Cut in tape between Procession and _Denial_ (M/1 version).
The last song is _Ceremony_. As John notes above, at about the three
minute point Hooky stops playing, as there's no bass during the final
portion of the sound.
The tape ends abruptly afterwards.
Tape quality is fairly good, listed as third generation.
Fairly loud and roudy audience, at least for an '83 US performance.
The group start out with a cracking version of _Age___Of___Consent_.
Hooky (or Barney?) mumbles something about a guitar before the band
launch into _Dreams___Never___End_. They repeat the first phase a
couple of measures longer than normal before going into the main
part. Hooky comments for the vocals to be turned up midway during
the first verse.
_586_ follows, and then the debut of _Lonesome___Tonight_.
The lyrics are fairly well-developed, unlike some other classics
they've debuted, though only the first verse was complete, the
second one is ad-libbed (lines like "dick in your shithole" kinda
give it away). Nice outro bass solo.
BS: "Thanks very much."
_Hurt_ follows. Female nattering mars the intro somewhat.
Then _Chosen___Time_.
A bit of soundchecking follows, a slight bit of Hendrix' "Are You
Experienced".
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Brief internal cut about thirty seconds in.
Fairly long break while the band swap instruments for _Confusion_.
Hooky mumbles something at the start.
Another pregnant pause before the Order perform their next number,
_Procession_.
_Temptation_
I believe Hooky says, "Anybody want to guess what the next one is?"
but it's hard to tell, as it's drowned out in reverb.
BS: (between verses) "Turn the synth down a bit, down a bit..."
Then he throws a curse at the soundman.
Source : Aud (unknown) - tracks 1-3; Aud (M2) - tracks 4-12 > WAV > FLAC
Snotters, who seeded this on EZT, says:
"This tape's always been a bit strange, in that I think it comes from 2
different sources. Tracks 1 - 3 are pretty average, quality-wise (the
sound is very poor at the start of Ceremony and gradually gets better).
Tracks 4 through to the end are exceptionally good for an audience
recording. Rather than split the gig up I thought I'd seed it all - just
be warned (and preferrably skip to Thieves Like Us when you listen to
it!)."
As with all US 83 Tour gigs this one's a corker.
"Sharksfan2000" attended this show, he doesn't remember much but there
were at least two long breaks (the other 5-10 minutes, the other 15
minutes) because of, surprise surprise, sequencer trouble. According
to his initial recollection, about 200 people were in attendance, but
on second thoughts, it appear to have been more. He comments:
"I remember that the club was quite crowded. Looking at an old
article about the I-Beam its capacity was noted as 600 - I find that
number hard to believe, but now I think I originally underestimated the
crowd there, and it may have been 300-400 total. I'd forgotten that the
I-Beam (which closed many years ago) was divided into a number of
interconnected spaces, and from where I wasstanding I'm sure I could
only see a portion of the crowd there. I was standing in the main room,
probably 30-40 feet from the stage. It was at that show that I first
saw someone wearing a Joy Division "Unknown Pleasures" t-shirt - of
> course I had to go buy one right away after that!
The band had some problems with their sequencers during the set, which
caused a couple of lengthy delays - I recall one of them being around 15
minutes, and the other one being 5-10 minutes.
Hooky had his hair tied back into a short ponytail, and spent most of the
show with his back to the audience. Not much interaction between the band
and the I-Beam crowed.
I remember "Leave Me Alone" being a highlight for me - especially the last
portion when Barney and Gillian trade off guitar leads. "Your Silent Face"
was also great, and the first time I realized that Barney was playing a
melodica on that song. Listening to the recording of the show made me
remember that I was worried that they weren't going to play "Temptation"
after they played "Blue Monday" (thought they might finish with that one).
I believe "Temptation" was an encore."
Transcription
_Ceremony_
Edit at about 3:05. I think this is where the second source (with louder
drums) is joined in.
Fans woo, and somebody can be heard saying "yeah, going up!".
An edit.
_Confusion_
Band plugs in and starts playing, WRL sample. Cut in the tape at 0:18.
_The___Him_
Sound isn't completely terrible, though there's a couple of dropouts
in this track. Some undecipherable audience chatter at about 0:15.
Audience members woo afterwards. There's an edit after the song.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
The debut for this song!
BS: "...hear this before."
A female fan starts chattering at 1:25 or so...all I can make out is
"I hate"...somebody then yells out, "Bitch".
Quite unique guitar parts...too bad it's quite hard in places to make
out
lyrics:
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs83.html#NO-830625.tlu
After they finish, a heckler shouts out something like:
"Hey, you take the...pigfuckers. You guys are the saints, get the
sound together. Last year, the same thing, oh! The same thing,
gentlemen. Great records, the whole bit, [someting] suck!"
Someone yells out "Wanker!"
BS: "There's a lot of people in this room...."
A bit of tuning before _We___All___Stand_.
_Leave___Me___Alone_ follows. A good rendition of this classic.
Somebody calls out for songs, and while the band waits for the
sequencers to load, Stephen bangs on the cymbals, and Bernard mumbles
something about the reason for the delay.
After _The___Village_ there's yet another tape edit, followed by
the start of _Denial_, that has a very slow drum buildup, which
suddenly speeds up, and end up being a great version.
_Your___Silent___Face_
Vocals start out quiet in the mix.
Quite a long version, clocking at nearly eight minutes. A fairly
long pause (forty five seconds) between tracks.
BS: "All right, what do you want us to play next? We probably won't
play it."
_Blue___Monday_
The opening bars hammer out.
BS: (in the most blase voice imaginable) "Oh, what a surprise."
_Temptation_ ends the set.
I'll gave you a thousand reasons
It's called love...we masturbate
I saw a thousand tree trunks
It's called love...it melts away
[reverb on vocals makes it difficult to make out the following verse]
...a thousand...
It's called love [x4]
...on the street.
It's called love [x2]
...becomes soulful...moves so fast
It's called love [x3]
It's called love and it comes to us [x3]
It's called love [x3]
The known recording isn't a very clear one, to me it sounds like
it was recorded from inside a bag or jacket pocket.
Somebody says "Oh, great" (sarcastically) at the start.
_Age___Of___Consent_ opens the proceedings, followed by _Dreams___Never___End_.
_Cries___and Whispers_
BS: "Turn up the vocals, Ed, please."
Followed right on its heels by _Senses_
_Lonesome___Tonight_ has somewhat different lyrics. More accurately
the live version played here has the same phrases as
http://www.worldinmotion.net/neworder/lyrics/substance/lonesometonight.htm
but in different sequence. This is about the third time NO has played this
song live.
New Order take a few seconds to tune their gear before rendering
_Confusion_.
During the song, mid-verse, Bernard askes the soundcrew to "turn the
fucking vocals up". One of the choruses is Bernard singing
"Confusion, confusion, confusion, confuu-uushu-uun".
_ICB_ has a somewhat different bassline than the recorded version,
at least in the beginning. My version has a cut about a second
into the song. Since this is about 30 minutes in, that suggests
a c60 in the upsteam lineage chain.
This is followed by _Denial_.
Weird how New Order plays more songs from Movement (4) here than
from PCL (2)...especially since PCL had been released the month
before. There's another edit between Denial and BM.
_Blue___Monday_
Guy near the taper can be heard saying, "Ah, you probably like that
better".
Blue Monday breaks down right when BS starts to sing "How does it...".
Sumner then comments about a piece of gear breaking that I can't quite
make out. The song restarts, and finishes up with the same outro
used on the TOTP version.
After the song Bernard comments:
(mark this for Barney Says)
BS: "So you only get [robbed...]?...we don't normally play that version,
that's the special Canadian version, short because you all are fucking
dicks tonight."
Hooky says something about instruments which I can't quote make out.
Brief (under 30 second) interlude of improvised stuff, then _586_,
which has a different ending than I usually heard.
_Ceremony_
Some strange audience banter.
Woman: For me. [referring to the clapping]
Guy: ah?
Then Bernard cuts in dedicating Ceremony to the road and stage crew,
in his own inimitable manner.
(mark this for Barney says)
BS: "[...a lot of...] This is a very old song, it's called, erm,
'The Day The Road Crew Got A Jump'. Just about ..."
PH: "Dedicated to that guy over there, in the grey t-shirt...his name's
Arthur..he's very lonely...starving...[2 words can't make out]
BS: "I like that guy over there, he's one bloke who needs a jump!"
PH: (at the same time as Barney) "Take a bow, take a bow, Jim."
Rolling Stone 15 SEP 83
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewRS9-83.htm
Briefly mentions Minneapolis gig, also includes a description
of their *reading habits*. Wow, a Rolling Stone article that's
actually pseudo-informative.
Original Waterrat leaves out _Everythings___Gone___Green_ as the
penultimate track.
There is a video of this performance, which is a pro shot
(multiple cameras).
_Your___Silent___Face_
There's some high-pitched distortion that appears in the first
couple of minutes, I don't know where that's from.
About 2:15 in Bernard yells to one of the sound crew about turning
the foldback down, with a choice "you cunt!" thrown in. About 5:00
in, Bernard yells "Turn the vocals up!".
There's some percussive string thumping in between this and the
next track.
_Procession_
Bernard sings the "time won't heal" line in a falsetto.
_Ultraviolence_
BS: "I bet you haven't heard a bass played like that, have you?"
Single chord and feedback squall, as well as Barney's droll comment,
introduce this next one.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
Steve noodles with the bass synth a bit before the band start up.
The lyrics, naturally, are still in flux at this point.
Near the end, a voice can be heard saying, "OK...I don't have the
equipment on, let's go!" This version is 11 minutes long.
BS: "Thanks very much. If you didn't like that, you must be
Americans!"
_Truth_
Bernard appears to be beating something (probably one of their
balky Sequential Circits Prophet 5's) into the ground!
The intro drum pattern is different here. Gillian has to be about
the most unlikely person ever to strap on a guitar.
Audience recording cuts out a couple of times, after the taper and
friend comment about the performance being real nice.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_ features the incomparable Mr. Morris for an
extended shot, which in my mind is the best visual on the tape.
Another cut between these songs on the audience tape.
_ICB_ has lots of closeups of Gillian on guitar.
_Confusion_
BS: "This is 'Don't Piss Yourself With Enthusiasm'"
The band swap instruments around, and Barney plucks his bass going
into the intro. This video does provide evidence that Gillian
can play with more than one finger on each hand, albeit barely.
lyric: "Con-fucking-fusion!"
There's an audience recording of _Everythings___Gone___Green, which was
apparently not videotaped.
Inexplicably, during the performance of _Temptation_, a (high-pitched
male) voice says:
"I want to thank you. Good night! You too were great."
A few minutes later, after a bit that sounds suspiciously like
jazz, Barney unstraps his guitar and the band leave the stage.
This is the legendary gig that as far as we know, no tape exists.
UPDATE - A recording has surfaced and was shared on 2017-08-05.
There are quite a few observations regarding what went on that
night, only some of them bear any resemblance to reality. This
will eventually be rewritten to account for the actual performance.
The following quote is from:
New Order, 1983: "That was an incredible experience. Joy Division never
made it to America because [vocalist] Ian Curtis killed himself on the
eve of the tour. When New Order came, it was one of the hottest days in
the city of Chicago's history. 'Blue Monday' had been a huge club hit--
it was like the change of music going from guitar-based punk to
synthesizer-based New Wave or post-punk--but at that show, the power
went down onstage because it was so hot in the club. Before it came
back on they did a sort of 'New Order unplugged,' and it was the closest
thing to Joy Division playing 'Blue Monday,' because they had to play it
with just guitar and drums and none of the electronic gear."
TJ adds:
"Sorry, missed ICB out from the middle of that rumoured set.
Ceremony/Age of Consent/Dreams Never End/Cries and Whispers/Lonesome
Tonight/Your Silent Face (where it all went wrong)/ICB/Sister Ray/a
jam of sorts/She's Lost Control instrumental/Transmission
instrumental.
Again, absolutely no idea of how accurate this is, this was included
in a letter to me by a trader many years ago, he said he hadn't got a
tape of the show but had attended it, and that is what they'd played.
I discounted it as BS immediately, and hadn't thought of it again
until it was mentioned below that other people had said they'd done
some JD at this gig. Pretty spectacular if it's true - but no
recording has ever been seen as far as I know."
TMK replies:
"Thanks much for the rumoured setlist. Very interesting, indeed. This
is the first time to see such a setlist for this gig. I first heard this
rumour about JD songs at this gig in 1984. The thing is - when my two
friends reported that NO had played a number of JD songs, they sounded
_disappointed_ about it (what was wrong with them?? :>) However, if
others have also heard similar rumours from people who attended the 1983
Chicago gig, it is entirely possible that rare JD material was performed.
I looked for a recording of this gig for several years in Chicago, to no
avail. There was never even the slightest rumour that one existed. So,
the big question is _where_ is the elusive 1983 Chicago recording - does
one even exist?!"
Another note from TJ:
"All I know about it is that the sequencers failed halfway through the
set, and unfortunately they'd played most of the guitar tracks in the
early part of the set! What followed was a bit of improvisation. I
had heard that they did a couple of JD instrumental versions as the
last two songs(SLC/Transmission), but have not heard any proof of
this. I did see a setlist posted somewhere once that included these,
from somebody from Chicago. No guarantee of course that it is
accurate or even bona-fide. From memory, it was Ceremony/Age of
Consent/Dreams Never End/Cries and Whispers/Lonesome Tonight/Your
Silent Face (where it all went wrong)/Sister Ray/a jam of sorts/She's
Lost Control instrumental/Transmission instrumental. No idea if this is
true.
Maybe the MB archives will tell all!"
RM's rspns: "I talked to Mark Buckwalter this morning...(re: picking up
the 81 shows with Doubts Even Here played to master them to CD from his
best tapes...)--he said NOPE. It's a rumor...the show was never taped.
He and his closest sources were snapping up the US tapes immediately after
they became listed by anyone, and from tapers, and friends of tapers--they
all said no tape exists to our knowledge. sorry."
More interesting speculation from TJ:
"I think that if this set is genuine, we can make a few assumptions
and a likely scenario - the sequencers and synths failed during Your
Silent Face, and as they'd already played all the guitar-based songs
they had intended to (and were only 20/23 mins into the set), they
had to make a quick change, hence ICB (which was well-rehearsed),
followed by a Sister Ray jam while the techs tried to fix the
sequencers. As this failed, they were a bit stuck, so threw in a
couple of crowd-pleasers. We'll never know unless we can either get a
first-hand account or something from the band themselves."
and
"Makes you wonder what had happened to Leave Me Alone and The Him
though, both of which had been played on that tour and not in the
previous two dates - you'd have thought they would be more likely
candidates than a couple of JD instrumentals (unless they were
feeling guilty!)."
Sourced from a tape with cassette label indicating it was made in
W. Germany, Collectors Cass 1049. Tape is a chrome Maxell UDS-II.
Sound quality is okay, but isn't as sharp as one would hope, and
is somewhat hissy.
This is the sequence on my tape, and probably differs from what
was actually performed. I suspect this tape leaves out the first
song (EGG), as well as the first encore tracks (Lonesome Tonight
and 586).
There'a another version of this, of course, that is complete.
The "Collectors Cass 1049" version actually sounds superior
to the full copy, at least the one I have, which has been
heavily NR'ed and may be MP3-sourced. And a third, bettering
the first two, featuring the final three tracks...these have
long been misidentified as being from Trenton, NJ.
_Everythings____Gone____Green_ is the first track of the set.
Not pressent on CC1049.
PH responds to somebody by saying, "Time for you to breathe...".
_Blue___Monday_ (TOTP edit)
During first drum break, a male voice comments "it's fucking great".
(CC1049 version)
Somebody cries for "Age Of Consent" a few times. (CC1049 version)
_Ultraviolence_
Booming double kick drum fills until the intro sequencer pattern starts
up.
_The___Him_
Song ends at the point where New Order would stop and restart.
Don't know if this is something they started doing during their
'83 gigs or if it is a one-off.
Odd because the non-CC1049 version does resume.
_We___All___Stand_ follows.
Some chatter during the intro, with somebody saying, "You can't stand
up here, you're in everybody's way, you can't stand up here".
(CC1049 version)
_Dreams___Never___End_
After the song finishes. Bernard addresses the audience.
BS: "This has got to be 40..."
_Hurt_
BS: "Hello, it's the first time we've played ... good on this tour,
been on this tour." [not 100% sure on wording]
On the non-CC1049 version somebody calls for Transmission.
The CC1049 version has this track last.
And then _Lonesome___Tonight_, with a fairly languid intro and with
Barney singing this completely out of tune and him cooing right before
the synths kick in. Female voice can be heard at 4:45 saying something
(can't make it out)
Missing (criminally) from CC1049 version.
_586_
PH: "That ...sequencer... there, drop it 5."
Interesting statacco effect with the guitar.
Quite a distinctive ending. There's is quite a long pause between tracks,
it sounds like New Order is trying to play Procession but never get it off
the ground, as we just here the synth drone and nothing more.
You can also hear punters yelling out for old JD standbys like "Transmssion",
"Ceremony", and "Incubation"(!) and another person advising the group to
"get a bigger hammer" to fix the synths.
Bernard than says, "Thank you, [something], sorry."
BS: (in a weird nasally voice, attempting to imitate the Jersey
accent) "Okay, suckers."
_Blue___Monday_
After "when your heart grows cold", Bernard says something (to the
sound guy, presumably).
Bernard utters something that sounds like "Wait 'em" at 3:43.
PH: (probably sarcastially) "C'mon you guys, a bit shy."
_Confusion_
Best version of this ever.
PH: "Thought that was a banana, Stu(?)."
"Con-fucking-fusion", to quote Mr. Sumner.
Great interplay of guitar here.
Last lyric: "Everything goes on..."
Ends with a Hooky bass vamp.
Squeal tape edit.
On the non-CC1049 version, there's about three minutes of chanting and
at least two edits (one cut, one squeal) while the audience cries out for
the group to come back out.
PH: "Might...[something] the bit...cha..."
Lots of chanting and clapping.
BS: "Fucking confusion!" (at a few points)
Jan Bollansee's description of the recording:
"Kindly provided by TJ, this recording catches the band in high spirits as
they play to an appreciative Canadian crowd. The gig falls in two parts.
The first, proper set features six songs, climaxing with a truncated
Blue Monday. Then, by way of a very long encore, the band perform
another seven tracks, starting this time with a full Blue Monday (since
the taper's friend can be heard asking, "didn't they already play this
one?", it's definitely the start of the encore, and not of a separate
second set). Cries & Whispers features one of Hooky's brothers on vocals
(because it was his birthday) and Thieves Like Us is another early, and
very long, rendition.
This recording is not without flaws. It's fairly hissy in some parts,
and very hissy in other ones (lineage unknown). There are also cuts
before and after the second version of Blue Monday, and the ending of
Everything's Gone Green is cut. Finally, the two cassette sides played
at different volumes and speeds. I raised Side 1 by 1.5 dB and slowed it
down by 8.705 %; Side 2 was raised by 3 dB and slowed down by 4.93 %.
However, don't let all this deter you: it's a very enjoyable recording
of a great gig!"
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
First few seconds has tape wear, there's unintelligible audience
chatter, but lots of cheering.
_Chosen___Time_ follows.
Tiny bit of tuning, followed by _Your___Silent___Face_.
_Temptation_ is next.
_Dreams___Never___End_
BS: (like he's soundchecking) "two" [then mutters a few words]
person: "someone(?) ...pretty bad on that side."
_Blue___Monday_
The TOTP edit version.
BS: "I'm gonna(?)...[can't make out rest of phrase]...will you decide
what you...[sounds like "wedgie wedgie"
Another punter calls for Ceremony.
punter #1: "The favorite."
punter #2: "What?"
punter #1: "The favorite."
End of the first part of the gig, edit at this point.
PA music at this point, and then another edit, followed by the full
version of _Blue___Monday_.
punter: "Didn't they already play this?"
This person (possibly the taper) mutters something else about 1:08 or
so in, "His [sounds like: chin-air] broke."
Tape edit at this point.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
BS: "[word] Eddie... I'd like to introduce Peter's brother, he's
called Andrew...he's gonna [do]? the next song."
This isn't Hooky's brother but really just a roadie, according to
James Nice's Shadowplayers, it was Andrew Liddle, who later handled
their lighting rig.
His vocals aren't exactly the stuff of legends, but they're servicible.
Hooky's bass sounds like it's playing in the wrong key, unlikely this
was the case to to adjust for Andrew's vocal range.
Andrew: "Thank you, I'd just like to say that I did it for the money."
PH: "His solo record will be going out on Factory next week."
_The___Village_ follows.
BS: "Thanks very much, that's the thousand-line version you're gonna get...
it's all downhill from now on."
PH: "...ask if you can get good help anymore."
_Thieves___Like___Us_
Another nearly-eleven long minute epic, with a very unusual synth-wash
intro.
The verses are completely improvised, with the lyrics about the
aformentioned Andrew, though the chorus is somewhat similar to the
standard version.
Bernard sings "My name is Andrew"...etc.
_586_
Synth sounds at the beginning are pretty atypical, and interesting to
listen to.
BS: "Thanks very much."
_Age___Of___Consent_
Hooky starts his intro over.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
More cries for "Ceremony", which is about the only one that doesn't get
played tonight.
The ending is cut, I presume the tape runs out.
"Paradise Garage. Simply a huge garage, sagging under the weight of
masses of disco lights. Decorated in black and grey corrugated metal,
like a huge Hacienda minus any sense of style, and plus the best PA
system in the world."
(Mick Middles, Sounds 23 July 83)
Interview in Sounds 23 July 83 which talks about Paradise
Garage gig at http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds7-83.htm
From alt.music.new-order:
> Richard David Behrens
> Does anyone know where I can get a copy (MP3, cassette, CD?) of the
> 1983 Paradise Garage NYC gig? I was right there in the front row on a
> first date with the girl I stayed with for a decade. She got mad that
> they left the stage after fifty minutes and leaned over and knocked
> over Bernard's monitor. I remember a dance band with Simon Topping
> from ACR playing congas opened for them. Does anyone remember the
> name of this band? Quando Quango? I must be getting old.
> Edward
> I just dug out a November '83 copy of Trouser Press which has a NO
> interview and review of that show. It confirms Quando Quango's set
> preceded NO. I can't help you out with any boots, but I can send you a
> photocopy of the article if you're looking for a trip down memory lane.
> An excerpt:
> "[The Paradise crowd] isn't sure hot to take a remark like Hook's
> introduction to 'Confusion': 'We want you all singing along on this, you
> funhouse bastards.' ... A few tunes later Hook tries one last pep talk:
> 'Seldom have I ever met an audience as lethargic as we are." 'Probably
> all Joy Division fans, Dicken mutters. 'You get what you deserve!' some
> yells out."
> Richard David Behrens
> Thanks for the info. I do remember the "funhouse bastards" comment
> and that is one of the reasons why my girlfriend attacked their
> monitors. They looked so grim on stage, staring at the audience with
> lowered eyes like we were beneath contempt. Someone who knew them at
> the time commented, "They're like that! Off stage they can be real
> funny and charming but when they get up on stage, POW! it's like the
> drugs kicked in or something and they get real paranoid and
> aggressive." I'm paraphrasing that.
Recording about 3rd generation, probably taken from the "Ceremony"
bootleg. Otherwise, a clear recording, minus the tape hiss.
It seems that the bootleg transposed DNE and Temptation from
ninth and tenth (at the end) to fourth and fifth.
Setlist in nogig confirmed, except my copy leaves out the last
track, Temptation. I've since obtained a complete cassette copy.
_Your__Silent___Face_ and _Hurt_ lead off the set.
During the intro of the later, somebody close to the taper says
they can't figure out if they're using tape or not, the person
next to him replies, "It doesn't matter".
BS: "Thank you very much, punters."
Then followed by a very curious "Ribit", mimicking the sound a
frog makes.
_Confusion_
PH: "Why you all singing along for this one, all you Funhouse
bastards?"
Somebody cries, "We love you, anyway."
(background, one of the roadies..."Ready?"...another roadie..."No")
BS: "Sorry to keep you waiting, we're just waiting for the sequencer
to load up. We're not sorry really, I don't give a shit really.
I don't, anyway."
(after it finishes)
BS: "Thanks very much, punters." Then he says "ribbit", like a frog!
_Leave___Me___Alone_ has fairly unsteady guitars but is just lovely anyway.
Bernard mutters something and then you can hear a guitar lead get unplugged.
_Thieves___Like___Us_ has 'scratch' lyrics, some of which are unintellegable.
The following represents all that I could make out:
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs83.html#NO-830707.tlu
This is followed by _Everythings___Gone___Green_.
And the following classic, introducing _Ceremony_, wrongly credited to
Hooky in the Sounds article:
BS: "Seldom...seldom have I ever met an audience more lethargic than
we are...very quiet here in New York, aye. Aren't we all Joy Division
fans? [Steve provides the drum fill for Atrocity Exhibition]
PH: "Sussed you out, eh?"
There's supposed to be an audience member who yells out "Don't forget
we're in a disco!!" You can hear this if you listen carefully.
Bernard plays something Velvet Underground-y for a second or two until
the band start into Ceremony.
_Blue___Monday_ features this lovely couplet:
"How does it it feel, to be treated in front of a cunt like you..."
(getting back at some front row heckler, it sounds like)
Or it could have been...
"How, Does it feel, To be - Stuck in front of a bunch of pricks like you?"
- Bernard's 1983 autocue work" ('Hannett Of The Apes', NOOL)
"...thought I heard you (falsetto) SPEAK..."
Nice ending. Gets a rousing response. The band don't even stop and
with a momentary burst of feedback, burst into _Dreams___Never___End_.
_Temptation_ starts with a weird horn-synth intro bit, and rounds out the
set. Excellent guitar work on this version.
I've been a thousand people
Oh, it's called love
I heard a hundred voices
Oh, it's called love
Oh it dies so quickly
Oh, it's called love
Interview in Sounds 23 July 83 which talks about Paradise
Garage gig as well as Ontario Theatre gig in D.C., at
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds7-83pt2.htm
NOTES:
Photo accompanying the article looks to have been taken at
the Paradise Garage DJ booth. Same outfits as in the
'Confusion' video.
Apparently the D.C. gig was very noteworthy in that Rob Gretton
actually joined New Order on stage to play syndrums for the set
opener _In___A___Lonely___Place_, as Hooky had had too much to drink,
but casually strolled off after his bit was done.
Hooky comes barreling in...I won't spoil the exchange between
him and Barney, it's a classic. It's in the review.
WBL also sent in the following article summary.
New Order
Howard Wuelfing
There was more than one moment last night in New Order's
show at the Ontario Theater when it was none too easy to tell
where machinery stopped and musicianship started. Having arisen
from the ashes of Joy Division, undoubtedly England's most influential
post-punk act, New Order since have forged an uneasy but often
exhilarating alliance with technology.At one point most of the band
huddled together to one side of the stage while tapes, rhythm machines
and synthesizer programs...
writeup:
Source is a C90 that's being burned to CD. Sound is clear but
is a bit dodgy on the high end. Maybe a mic/room acoustics issue.
A few tracks are left out of the original WR listing!
(586, Age Of Consent[cut], and Confusion)
Some drums (sounds like Everything's Gone Green!) being played before
the Order start into _In___A___Lonely___Place_. Some shouting out
and audience chatter, girl says "Well, well...". Bernard's vocals
sort of go weird at the "How I wish you were here with me now" bit.
The song got a good amount of applause, nobody noticed Gretton as
the new syn-drummer.
_Ultraviolence_
Also starts out with no bass. Hooky comes on after the three and a
half minute mark and starts playing.
The taper or somebody close to him says "Hello, Hooky."
PH: "Good evening, [can't make out]"
BS: "The black sheep turns up..."
PH: "All right, shitheads. ...Nearly got away with it...nearly
too...to walk...
[can't make out phrase properly, as Hooky is speaking off-mic.]
Punter comments that "they need to get their act together up there".
Other people yell, "Fuck you", and "He's on tape!".
BS: "God, guess who we're waiting for now?"
Somebody yells out, "Ian lives!"
Girl yells out "Fucking CRAP!" as they continue to soundcheck.
Soon enough, they play _The___Village_. Another one that features
the lyric, "the sun, the trees, and the afterbirth".
Some talking during the long gap between songs, girl saying "I know",
and guy saying something I couldn't be bothered to try to make out.
_Blue___Monday_
Short TOTP version.
_Lonesome___Tonight_
Fourth time this is performed.
Some variations in lyrics, naturally. Will document them at some
point. Followed by _We___All___Stand_
_Procession_
A strange-sounding version, as guitars and vocals come in strangely.
Also, the acoustics become muddier than they were before.
_586_
Hooky screams at the intro.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Major internal cut at about the 3:00 mark.
The set ends with a storming version of _Confusion_.
People clap hoping for an encore, but one isn't forthcoming.
Somebody comments at the very end, "I knew they wouldn't...
I knew they wouldn't!"
Source is cassette from my collection, a non-descript Maxell XLII.
This is on the A side. The B side contains the abbreviated
(only first seven songs) from the gig in Washington DC the night
before. The filler after that is a performance by Minimal Compact
in Gothenburg, Sweden 12 DEC 86 ("Take Me Away" and "Nuclear Twist")
This is noted to establish that this tape was copied no earlier
than late 1986.
Sound is fairly clear and dynamic, some level of hiss, not too bad,
though there likely are azimuth alignment issues at the start, but
these clear up.
The opening 30 seconds is the tail end of a song (probably not
New Order)...just a bit of synth and feedback. There's a break,
and then the proper set begins.
_Age___Of___Consent_
The opening lines from Bernard are off-key.
Right channel volume cuts out from 1:22 - 1:35...may be a mic issue.
At 2:43 some fan calls out for an Eric...there's a bit of chatter
throughout this one.
_Your___Silent___Face_ and _Dreams___Never___End_ follow.
Right afterwards, there is _Truth_.
Good melodica intro.
Hooky segues into the bassline for _Leave___Me___Alone_, which
stops and starts.
lyric: "You get these words wrong / I don't give a fuck."
_Cries___And___Whispers_ follows. There's not much substance to these
notes because the Order are just playing these straight through!
lyric: "The edges froze / they turned to fucking ice"
Bernard appears to be having a bit of trouble with his delivery
here...a couple of lines are more spoken than sung.
The volume greatly drops for the intro of the next one, _Hurt_,
but that is more likely a reflection of recording characterisitics
within the venue than a tape error.
Fairly energetic version, too.
_586_
PH: "Add more sequencer through here, drop it five."
Interesting statacco effect with the guitar.
Some keyboards can be heard in between tracks, as well as a punter
yelling out, "Get a bigger hammer!"
BS: (in a weird nasally voice, attempting to imitate the Jersey
accent) "Okay, suckers."
It has been revealed by 'Mongo Lloyd' that the final tracks after
Hurt were _586_, _Denial_, _Temptation_, an pre-encore break with
PiL-type music playing, and the encore of _Blue___Monday_. Indeed
it turns out the original listing of 586/BM/Confusion here are actually
from the Detroit show a week earlier, so the notes have been integrated
with that listing, and a writeup of these tracks will shortly be forthcoming.
I've noted that the description from:
http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/neworder/no_disc/notapes.html
refers to the following incident:
Midway throught the second song, Hooky shows. "Ah, the black sheep
returns," mutters Bernard, while shooting Hooky a rueful glance. Hookey
straps on his bass, looks out into the audience, and apologised:
"Hi shitheads!"
This actually happened during the Ontario Theatre gig on Jul 8, 1983,
but considering we have to go on a wag writing for a British weekly
paper, all bets are off.
Both of these songs are making their debut in England, although
oddly enough they were played on the last part of their US tour.
Sources are MP3 from Anthology Part One misc directory (referred to
as Anth-MP3), a tape in my archives (refeered to as 'tape') which I
suspect was sourced from the video of this performance, another copy
from one of the audience masters (XX), and a third M1 from a different
master that Snotters posted to Easytree.
_Blue___Monday_
Anth-MP3 version starts right when the beats kick in, there's no
lead in. The XX version has about 5 seconds of country & western
type music, which is said to be "Latin, possibly Merengue", which
you can hear more in full on Snotters' version.
Another version has 10 seconds and Hooky "thwacking" his bass.
Dropout between 0:45 and 0:50 on tape version. Volume goes
up at 2:45-2:55 and back down at 2:45. Brief cut-out at about
3:00.
What's intriguing is that even in 1983, the vocals stray from
the deadpan delivery in the recorded version.
Punter says something about what New Order are going to play,
difficult to make out, though. This is at the 1:50 mark.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Tape garbles at the 0:20 mark. Like somebody hit record briefly.
_Lonesome___Tonight_
Appears on 'Play At Home'. Not surprisingly, the bit where Barney
comments about all the cameras
BS: "Uh, can everyone move back a little bit please."
PH: "Take the TV cameras with you, they've got all the fucking room."
BS: "Move back, there's people being knee-capped in the front here."
(credit to FHTH, p.136 for the correction)
lyric: "How many times before, did you comb your long black hair?"
and "The lies we told our youth/A Hitler of our own, a home I call
my own."
New Order play about 10 seconds of _Sister___Ray_ before switching
gears into _Your___Silent___Face_.
Barney hits a bum note during the melodica solo at 5:20 or so.
BS: "Thanks very much."
Somebody cries out for Procession. Somebody else yells "Leave
Me Alone". A third person yells "Get a haircut!".
_Leave___Me___Alone_
BS: "I've got a message here that I've like to read out,
and it's from Carolyn...or Carol, and she says that it's
to Steve from Hyde, and she's sorry you couldn't make it
to Legends on Saturday, and she says that we wouldn't read
that message out for...ads for Carolyn."
Beautiful, given the song in question they're about to play.
_586_
BS: "Listen, can you move back, as there's not even enough room
for _me_ onstage now."
I had 'not everyone can groove with me on stage'...which is kinda
a bit silly. Thank to Dave Mings for the correction.
(not heard on XX source, there's an edit point instead)
Ends with Confusion-style guitar noodling.
_Denial_ follows.
_Confusion_
BS: "Andy, would you tear that cabbage off the back of the stage,
please?"
PH: "Pretend you didn't hear that." (responding to a loud hum
that sounds like somebody unplugged their instrument)
Random punter can be heard on the Anth MP3 to sardonically reply "Ok".
New Order continue to soundcheck a bit before the next song starts.
Barney picks at the strings on the head end of the guitar upstream
of the bridge. Hooky cries, "Ready?", and they're off.
"W...WRL" intro. This is a pretty wild version, apt for the Hac.
There's a blank-space gap of a few seconds between Confusion and
the next one, a few seconds of audience noise, and another gap.
_Temptation_ is performed without incident, and appears on 'Play At
Home'. Well, not quite without incident. At one point Barney points
skyward in a gesture indicating he can't hear himself playing loudly
enough..
_Thieves___Like___Us_
Appears on the 'Play At Home' video...the video mostly consisting of
scenery around the Manchester area.
BS: "Move back a little bit."
This version is about 12:30. Some difference in lyrics, but only one
major digression.
Skip at 4:17-4:21, or more properly a brief internal cut, at least on
the XX version.
Clapping and cries for "more". Must have taken a while because after
a couple of minutes of cries, there's an edit. Eventually, New Order
come back and encore with performances of _In___A___Lonely___Place_ and
_Everythings___Gone___Green_.
The 'friend of the band' tape has EGG incomplete, whereas with XX and
Snotters' it's complete. Snotters' even includes a bit of the post-gig
music as well.
And now the soundcheck...
(times are approximate)
_Side___A_
00:00 Synth bleet, and then silence. You can hear the street traffic
throughout.
02:00 Soundchecking mics starts in earnest.
02:20 Some drum checking, some people in the audience mutter as Barney repeats "one-two" more than a few times. This goes on for quite a few minutes. Ends in some crumpling sounds and an edit.
(subtract 9:20 if you have this portion as a separate track)
09:20 Synths for _Your___Silent___Face_.
10:10 A quiet passage.
10:40 Bass synth melody of _Lonesome___Tonight_ (a part Hooky usually plays with his bass)
11:20 Synth for _Confusion_, and then more bass synth as above.
13:15 Voice chorus effect for _Blue___Monday_.
14:00 Some talking, and ghostly synth for _Blue___Monday_.
14:25 First loud motorcycle passes by. You'll hear quite a few of these.
14:40 Continuation of voice chorus.
15:25 More "one two"s as somebody messes with pitch of chorus.
16:00 Crumpling sounds, more traffic sounds.
17:20 Assorted drum soundchecking and random keyboard bursts.
19:40 More quiet audience chatter, drums stop, background traffic again.
21:05 Bass for _Decades_ and _Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_ and various other snippets.
25:35 Hooky checks his mic.
26:45 Now it's Barney's turn. He counts up to four!
27:10 Our first chance to hear some guitar, fairly intermittently.
29:50 Bass and guitar of Iggy Pop's _The___Passenger_(!), well, occasionally.
32:20 Barney makes a comment as various sounds come in and out, including what sounds like a guitar part for _Ceremony_. Some more noodling.
34:50 bass/drums for _Leave___Me__Alone_. Goes on for about 30 seconds, stops, and starts again 40 seconds later. Afterwards, Barney plays his guitar part for about a minute or so.
37:10 guitar/bass/drums for _Leave___Me___Alone_.
38:20 More _Decades_-type bass, etc.
39:10 Silence, just background chatter. Lone synth about a minute later, and some more guitar, bass, and keyboard noodling after that.
42:20 Another take on _Leave___Me___Alone_, this time with vocals, which are much louder than the other instruments. End of song is cut off as we've run out of tape by the 46:10 mark.
_Side___B_
(this portion was recorded at lower volume and has poorer acoustics than the first side)
00:00 We're greeted with loud crumpling, and Barney soundchecking. Somebody around the taper says, "What's he using?" in reference to equipment, presumably, not drugs. Various other random things. Somebody sounds like he says "Oh...fuck everyone!" at around the two-minute and forty-five second mark.
03:30 Synths from _Decades_.
04:20 Drum and bass sequencer for _586_. Then some silence and mic checks.
08:40 _586_. First few seconds are low volume over the PA. This take has vocals but sounds crappy over the sound system.
11:40 Some more silence.
12:10 Bit of bass from _Lonesome__Tonight_, the same bit that was played by a bass synth earlier, as well as a different bit. Also, the synths.
13:20 _Lonesome___Tonight_, with vocals.
18:15 Another quiet bit, and then a vocal check and a bit of bass.
20:35 Keyboards for _Thieves___Like___Us_.
22:00 Instrumental take of TLU.
27:20 Hooky starts talking, none of which I can make out. A bit of keyboars and bass synth as Barney replies to him.
30:00 Various bits of _Confusion_, including guitar and bass.
32:05 _Confusion_, with vocals.
37:15 More silence, and more _Decades_ bass, some chatter between band members, and more "one two"s.
41:00 _Age___Of___Consent_, with vocals. Final part is cut as tape runs out at the 45:45 mark.
I have concluded that this is probably a spurious entry.
Love Vigilantes wasn't played until the start of '85, and
New Order had just finished up their East Coast leg of their
'83 tour in early July, so to go back three weeks later would
make no sense.
The tracks to referred here most probably originate with
New Order's performance at the Felt Forum on 1 AUG *85*.
"Love reaction, gives you satisfaction". This gig
promimently features NO's "cover" of Love Reaction,
which was a ripoff of Blue Monday done by Divine.
Also features the debut of Sooner Than You Think.
Titled Aleph, it sounds different enough to warrant
its own trackname.
I'll eventually get around transcribing this one, but
in the meantime, here are some reviews:
Sounds 10 DEC 83
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds12-83live.htm
McCullough--defintely not happy with what he perceives
as New Order playing "over indulgant disco trash...TERRIBLE
rubbish, again a vague insult to the blacks who do it so
much better..."
Melody Maker 11 Jan 86
http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewMM1-86.htm
Bernard responds to the criticims that NO were contemptuous of the
audience by saying they were really directing it at themselves.
MP3 copy made from LP. Sound is poppy, but OK.
Sounds like a fairly rowdy gig from the playback.
_Confusion_
Con-fucking-fusion!
There's some talking near the mic between Confusion and _Temptation_.
_Your___Silent___Face_ and _Temptation_ follows.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
PH: "This one's for someone who, ah, couldn't be with us tonight.
Because he's gone to seen the Moving Hearts, the bastard."
The group improvise a bit before they start playing.
Hooky says something like "so what"...
The song kicks in properly, but there's a false start.
It ends in strummed guitar.
_Aleph_
This is the prototype for Sooner Than You Think, but sounds different
enough to warrant its own title. It's almost an instrumental, but
does have Bernard singing the following lyrics:
"If you are like one of these/
_Chosen___Time_
Has a unique synth line that's featured prominently here.
_The___Village_
BS: "This is the professional part of the set now...we've given you
all the shit, now the good stuff."
lyric: "Our love is like the fucking flowers, the rain, the sea, and
the fucking hours."
Some guitar strumming in between tunes...
_Age___Of___Consent_ follows.
_Blue___Monday_ (Love Reaction)
Here it is, Love Reaction New Order style.
Hooky and Barney chant 'Love Reaction/Gives you satisfaction'
and other lyrics from that NO ripoff. Awesome.
I have three copies of this performance, with two different sources.
#1 is a tape with this gig and the soundcheck, the sound is about
third/fourth generation on this one, with some hiss and rumble. 8/9.
GaoBest has a copy of this that is pristine first-generation
sounding (but is actually 2nd gen, according to him), 9/9+, which
I have since obtained and copied. This version does _not_ have a
cut 586! This source also appears on volume six of the New Order
MP3 Anthologies, and is taken from an even higher generation source
than my original tape copy.
#2 has only surfaced recently, and apparently was taped by
Neil Donkin. It has somewhat superior sound to the first two
copies (not so sure about this after listening to GaoBest's),
and a good "down in front" feel without the chanting.
9-/9, only marred by a couple of technical glitches.
A lot of the following information should help the gentle reader
figure out the difference between all the version. The original
writeup is based on listening to #1.
There appears to be absolutely no interaction between New Order
and the crowd here.
_We___All___Stand_
#2 has sporadic chattering from 0:30 - 1:00.
_Ceremony_
Two strummed chords, and full speed ahead.
#2 has scuffling between 0:30 - 0:40.
#1 has annoying heckling between Ceremony and _Leave___Me___Alone_.
Sounds like football chants, fairly silly stuff. "Come on you Spurs!"
can be heard in between Leave Me Alone and IALP, as well as
between IALP and Hurt.
_Hurt_
Has a bass solo not otherwise present on the normal, released
version. #2 has a skip about 2:30 in, dunno if this is just
in my CD (I suspect it is) or a problem upstream. If you listen
carefully during the intro, you can hear a bit of vocoder, similar
to what was used in the Order's cover of "Love Reaction". :)
Excellent, excellent version.
Some Hawaiian guitar chords before the drumming which marks _Denial_,
marred by Bernard flubbing the opening verse. Fans yell out 1-2-3-4
on this.
Tape break in #1 version.
_Ultraviolence_
Features a Wild West-type opening riff, or it could be an attempt
at The Rolling Stones' "Satisfaction".
Go here for a listen:
BS: "Eddie, can I have more DMX through the front...and through here as
well." A really good version of this underrated gem. Has the "who killed my
father" lyrics.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Either Bernard was forgetting lyrics or they were having mic problems...
he repeats the first line..."Won't you...please let me go?" three times.
#2 has a skip at about 2:15, could be a mastering fault.
_586_
My earlier copies of #1 and 2 has a cut here, as this is the A/B split,
but the GaoBest #1 does not!
Another repeated first line...Bernard swears about his foldbacks or
something like that, but does it in his singing voice:
BS: "Straghtaway you left...Eddie, would you take the fucking
Quadra out the foldback."
A few females chatter away on #2 in the thirty seconds between the
end of 5-8-6 and Confusion.
_Confusion_
New Order really goes wild with the samples on this version.
#2 has a scuffle about 1:15 in. Loud female shouting "No!" or something
like that about 4:20 in. The Anthologies version of #1 cuts after 4:47
(the song is about seven minuts long). All other versions are complete.
Soundcheck
Sound appears to have been taken from a video recorder.
Drums and a bit of cheesy keyboard, and distortion.
"202, tom." Something about speakers.
Drumming from _Heart___and___Soul_, and more distortion
Keyboards from _Your___Silent___Face_ aka KW1, and yet more distortion.
Keyboards from _Blue___Monday_, and the sequencer.
Keys and synths for _Confusion_.
Some talking, and unrecognizing keyboard playing.
Bass riffs...aborted JD riffs.
Birthday Party riffs
One Two Three Four ad infinitum
Start of Bass Riff for _586_, then some dialogue, and then a long synth
note, followed by other similar notes.
Some drums and bass, nothing recognizable.
A couple of interesting bass riffs, and then some more.
Drum machine for 5.8.6, and sequencer patterns.
Then a performance of 5.8.6!
And _Leave___Me___Alone_, including backing vocals.
More synth notes. Then the tape cuts off.
The original copy that I have of this is labelled a second generation
copy, though it sounds more like 3rd gen to me with the hiss.
It's a great audience recording anyway, must have been a D5 used to
tape it. This is the gig only, not the soundcheck, which is extant,
about 80 odd minutes long, and very boring. I'd highly recommend you get a
copy, this is a really good performance. There are no less than
three audience sources to choose from, as I've subsequently
picked up a copy from Snotters from what appears to be a different
source, with even better characteristics than my original, and have
heard a sample from Waterisnat from a different audience source.
Gig opens off with _Age___Of___Consent_ followed by
_Everythings___Gone___Green_, which segues into _Temptation_,
(with the taper I suspect responsible for the "dud-duh-du-du-duh
duh-duh-du-du-du"'s that can be hard through), which segues into
_586_. The sequencer packs it in pretty early, so we're treated
to a syndrum/bass pattern much more extended than usual, excellent
stuff. All told, the segues clock in at over 25 minutes.
Volume level rises at about 2:00 of EGG.
Any show with _Lonesome___Tonight_ possibly the best NO song ever, is
a good show. Followed by _Your___Silent___Face_, ace. KW1 has *boing*
reverb effects and Bernard's mic cut out mid-song (or he came in
a sequence too early), and tons of reverb at the 'pisssissis offfofffoff'
line.
_Confusion_ starts out with the 'W...W-R-L' feature on Confusion 87,
which is sampled back throughout the first part of the song. Keyboards
obscure the vocals at a couple of points. "Ratata-tatata-hey" can
be heard at a few points as well.
A bit of a pause before _Ceremony_, which follows.
Intro to _Blue___Monday_
BS: "Next one's called '99 Red Balloons'"
Hehe. Lots of shouting along during the intro.
Lotsa interesting sounds in this one, including what sounds like
Hooky impersonating a drummer. ;-)
Also Bernard can be heard to say "Shake it, shake it, shake it".
_Face___Up_ is debuted at this gig!
BS: "Right. This, eh, this next one is a new song that we're going
to try out." And a few seconds later, "You'll all like this."
Bass sequencer featured...keyboard lines slightly different...
and lyrics very different, and historically interesting, even given
they're being made up on the spot.
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs84.html#NO-840319.faceup
Encore is _Thieves___Like___Us_
PH: "You're getting something out of it, eh?"
Starts with bass solo, quite unlike anything I've heard elsewhere.
Kewl. And there's extra lyrics in there, nothing special, but nice.
BS: "This is the very last pop group to appear in the 1980s."
This consists of a Hooky drone, and lasts for maybe about 30 sec.
There's been a few (?) between two
A perfect fit, that, your hairy twat
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Being like we used to be
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Living on my own
We've all done this a few times now
I go to someone else I know
And oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Loving you like I used to do
Oh you're gone such a long time now
It's been such a long time, now
Between your ears I've seen your face
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Seeing you like I used to do
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you, ooh
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Seeing you...
Likely two audience recordings, the one used for the gigography listing,
and the one from TJ
The incomplete version misses KW1 and Temptation and has is missing
half of the last song. The more complete version apparently includes
the soundcheck of 'Confusion'.
_Procession_
Bernard starts out the second verse singing in a falsetto!
BS: "Thank you very much. Sorry about that. We had a slight technical
problems."
A couple of bass notes.
_The___Village_
One of the versions that mentions 'afterbirth'.
_The___Him_
BS: "Take you down a little now, this one's about war."
_586_ follows.
The usual soundchecking before _Confusion_.
Brief cut at 2:25 during that song (On the TJ-source version).
BS: "That was Confusion. Buy it, bastards."
_Denial_ follows.
Very interesting drum sounds right before _Blue___Monday_.
lyric: "If it wasn't for your misfortune, I'd be a stupid cunt today."
Bernard throws in 'Love Reaction/Gives me satisfaction' as well.
Brief cut on TJ version.
_Face___Up_
BS: "The first time we ever played before...just [something] up and down."
(hard to make out)
Features 'scratch' lyrics used during 1984 performances of this song.
Some comments in German as people shout for an encore.
Another cut (TJ-sourced version)
_Lonesome___Tonight_
BS: "This is a very slow song...[can't make out]...punters, oh dear.
It's called 'Are you Lonesome Tonight?"
3-4th generation audience tape, your typical bootleg quality
bootleg. But better than some!
According to Al Jarvis, a coachload of Brits, among them including
Jon Marsh (The Beloved) and 'that bloke from EMF...older than the
rest of them' were among the luminaries along for the ride, so that
is why the crowd sounds like the typical Brit gig...
They open with _Skullcrusher_, which has vocals. The is the first
time this one is ever played live. It has different lyrics than the
Paradiso version commonly available on MP3.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Thanks very much...You tell us what you want us to play and
we'll play it."
NO don't do much talking until the break after _Your___Silent___Face_.
BS: "We won't play Temptation tonight because we played it last night.
We are playing _Thieves___Like___Us_ now because we didn't play it last
night."
The intro to _Hurt_ gets flubbed a bit.
Intro to _Age___of___Consent_ has Bernard mouthing out the following,
in broken English.
BS: "We play special long set for you Germans tonight."
After the Order finish, Barney makes the following comment.
BS: "Who said punk was dead?"
Bernard introduces _In___A___Lonely___Place_ with a remarkable statement.
BS: "This is the most evil song I have ever heard in my life."
Source is a tape from my archives. I had assumed this was taken from
an FM broadcast, but I suspect that at least my version is a very good
audience tape.
Sound (except for the first track) is excellent. Hooky's bass
has a similar strange sound that it would during the '85
Australasian tour. My tape also has an interview with the
band (probably in either France or Switzerland) done in '84
at the end of side A.
Stephen Smith adds:
"I've been cleaning up my own cassette of this one and it seems to have a
couple of differences to your own. My cassette is from the late 80's and
was copied from a friend (who picked up a lot of New Order/Joy Division
live stuff as well, sadly, he disposed of them a while back, I kept all
of mine). So, there is a little bit more hiss than would have been on
his original cassette. I have cleaned the tracks a little but only
slightly as I didn't want to start impinging on the music itself. My
cassette doesn.t have any interview on it."
_586_
This version is cut at the beginning and has a right-channel dropout
until nearly the end of the song (4:13). Some editions of this gig
don't even include this track. Stephen's does include all of it, but
there's a cut at about 0:41 in, where it continues is where most of
the other versions start.
Weird scream at 2:20, audible in the right channel.
Stephen Smith:
"Track starts with radio announcers voice, for about 6 seconds or so,
tinkering strains of the 586 piano part can be heard in the background.
Recording volume is quieter at the beginning until around the 40 second
mark, then it kicks in fully. No right channel drop out on my cassette
except for a tiny glitch at the 3.30 mark. I transferred the undamaged
channel here but changed it back, it didn.t really improve it to any
great degree and I prefer not to go overboard on these tapes."
_Ceremony_
A bit of amp buzz right at the start.
Fans call out for Warsaw and say stuff in their native tongue.
_Ultraviolence_
BS: "It's just called Ultraviolence."
Additional lyrics appear in this version;
"Who saw the darkness? I felt the devil.
He was so close by...I ran for the sky
[Thanks to the aforementioned Stephen Smith for the correction to the above.
He couldn't make out the last part either.]
A very loud voice yells out:
"Thank you, thank you, thank you! Blue Monday."
BS: "Thanks very much everybody, it's really nice of you to
come and see us."
More calls for BM.
Same voice calls, "C'mon lads, give us Blue Monday!". Somebody
replies to him, "Shut yer mouth."
BS: "Slight technical problem there."
Barney plays some notes on his guitar and such.
PH: "It's the adverts from the radio."
_Sooner___Than___You___Think_
Is titled 'Meaning Of Life' on my tape.
This is the live debut of this track. Sequencer patterns are different
for this one, obviously. Lyrics mention the "thousand lines away" bit,
and the chorus is "You know we love you" repeated a few times.
He also sings:
"Switzerland is a wonderful country, it's full of mountain and leaves
and flowers. We...someone...(summer?), like it does in England, the
girls in...so much prettier. But unfortunately, everyone in Basel are
cunts."
[Thanks to Stephen for filling in some of the blanks]
_ICB_
Also has buzzing in the right channel. Other copies don't have this defect.
The group then shoot right into _Denial_.
_Procession_
BS: "We know what we'll do, don't worry. (in a high-pitched voice)
Procession".
Another additional lyric.
lyric: "Your life is your own, my life doesn't involve you, boy."
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Right, sort the fucking triggers out, somebody."
There's a bit of noise at about 3:05.
BS: "Oh great, fucking back to you..."
Somebody yells out "just play more guitar", and you can hear Bernard drop the
mic.
(edit in tape)
_Temptation_
BS: "This next song's called Temptation. It's a story about, eh...
a long lost love."
_Confusion_
This is the last song in the set. Performance is somewhat a shambles.
Source is a second-gen, but fairly hissy and azimuth-challenged
recording.
_586_ opens the set, which they dispatch with quickly.
BS: "This song's called _Everythings___Gone___Green_."
BS: "Thanks a lot for [it?]."
_Your___Silent___Face_ follows.
During the bridge, you can hear the singer mutter something
that unfortunately on this recording is unintelligible.
Bernard sings "why don't you fuck off" for this one.
BS: "Thank you...proof that we have, eh... 'Your Silent Face'"
(not completely understandable here)
_Senses_ follows. Has the improvised extra verse often seen
with this song in post-'82 performances.
BS: "Thank you very much. That's our most, er, macho record for
today."
_Hurt_
(at the end)
BS: "Thank you very much. Don't say perfect(?)"
_Chosen___Time_ is next.
_Temptation_
Hooky strums the bass
BS: "A few technical problems on this next song."
PH: "Ah, he's going for a piss. When a man's gotta go, he's gotta go.
Unfortunately, we won't be able to jam, won't we Steve?"
The song starts in, pauses, and then restarts.
_Age___Of___Consent_
On the tape, the intro is cut.
_In___A___Lonely___Place_
Someone mumbles something at the start that sounds like "he'll knock
you over" and then I think later on Bernard tells Steve to hurry up
a little bit.
New Order break between the main set and encore.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Only happen in the work.[?]...Cuz we're all cute, and we're all
crude for...to take the stage for this version of Blue Monday.
This song is for all the...ladies in ze audience, they are quite
welcome to come backstage for a drink..." (Hooky's bass obscures
the final word)
PH: "This is [if he?] will heed our advice...we were telling
him...Blue Monday." [very unsure of the wording here]
BS: "Just waiting for the sequencer to load."
_Skullcrusher_
PH: "This is, erm, Black Heart."
Set the controls for the heart of the black hole.
Lyrics are completely improvised, much in the same way New Order
would do for Do The Ostrich or Sister Ray.
Source: download from http://neworder.simplenet.com/newdawnfades
(notes from the above website...at least when it existed,
stuff seems to be at http://www.geocities.com/~newdawnfades now)
This looks like it's taken from an LP bootleg. Sound is fairly
boomy, and alas, there seem to be some skips. I've subsequently
got a complete, lossless copy.
At the beginning of Track 6 on the bootleg is improvisation but it
sounds like Sister Ray which leads into Confusion. Also, listen to
Bernard's disgust with the Berlin audience at the beginning of Track 6.
This concert also features an early version of Face Up. The lyrics
sound like they are being made up on the spot.
(my own notes follow)
_Blue___Monday_
An illustration on why fans of the Order's live efforts think that
the '84 versions of this song are best.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Bernard's opening solo is a bit off.
_Lonesome___Tonight_
Profanity alert: "my eyes are made of stone...just like your fucking home"
_Your___Silent___Face_ is played next. Virtually nothing audible from
the crowd.
Hooky tunes up between this and _Dreams___Never___End, which passes
through in a blur. After which you can hear a solitary punter call
out for Everything's Gone Green.
_Face___Up_
BS: "Why you horrible bastards."
Third time this song is ever performed. Great sounds in this
one, especially if you like bass. I would actually differ with
George's opinion that the lyrics are being "made up on the spot",
though obviously the arrangement is far from the final version.
The chorus can be heard a couple of times through it, for instance.
Tape edit at this point on the lossless version.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
BS: "...grateful."
BS: "This is a laid-back set tonight."
You can hear stuff getting plugged out and back in again, which
should tell you what kind of audience this was.
_Sister___Ray_ (improv)
BS: "Right, you're the most miserable fucking audience we've ever
played to in our fucking lives. *Never* *ever* want to come back
to Berlin again, ever, you MISERABLE FUCKING BASTARDS. (spit)"
They did come back in 2001, all was forgiven.
All of this has to be heard to be appreciated.
Some strange sampling along with tuneless chords at this point.
BS: "I didn't mean that, actually" "It was just...the season was
wrong..." (both sentences are lost in a wash of reverb)
The improv version of Sister Ray segues into _Confusion_,
BS: "How about Confusion, you..."
_586_
Ends with motorcycle samples, which also appear on the final track
of this set, _Temptation_.
I met you three years ago
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Knowing you like I used to do
You said three years ago thought our lives...
You went down the longest [can't make out](?)
Lives will be torn about yours too...
I love you like I knew I should.
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Knowing you like I used to do
Oh it's so good, oh it's so right
I hurt you like I knew I would.
I have all this sound I want
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I never will believe, never will believe you
You won't...believe it too.
We have ...in there...
[Bernard falsettos a few words]
You have all those years in our lives to go
We were just like children that play,
(in falsetto)
(falsetto again)
I loved you like I knew I should
(coda)
I guess you know the day
_Ceremony_ opens the set.
BS: "Thanks very much, everybody."
_Dreams___Never___End_ follows.
Hooky screams the word "scream" at the end. Awesome.
_The___Village_ follows.
Synths go seriously out of tune for _Sooner___Than___You___Think_,
which features the developmental version of the lyrics, with "You
know that I love you" being the chorus.
_Leave___Me___Alone_ is next.
_The___Him_
Bernard hocks and spits after singing the line 'A small boy kneels, humble,
in a great hall'.
_Ultraviolence_
Bernard realizes that their performance here is dire (in no small part
due to the bottle of Pernod nearby) and starts improvising:
"This is a song called Ultraviolence
ending with...
"Say no more, say no more..."
...there's other assorted niceties here I have to transcribe...
_Hurt_ and _Everythings___Gone___Green_ follow, the latter segueing
into _Temptation_. All excellent.
Fade out/in back to the encore of _Blue___Monday_.
Apparently, Mr. Sumner was a no-show here, with Hooky and Slim handling
vocal duties, with Hooky doing the first version and Slim continuing on.
Quite unique.
About 7:00, Slim says something, but I can't make it out due to all the
reverb.
Various M/2 sources of the same source tape.
The tape has about 20 seconds of intro audience ephemera before
the first song, _Age___Of___Consent_ is played. The tape garbles
about a minute into the song.
"One, two, three, four"...and "Everything's Gone Green" are
some of the interesting things that can be heard shouted out
by punters, right before the martial drumbeats of _Denial_
pound their skulls into a pulp.
The same Kraut who yells at the start yells again in front of
_Chosen___Time_.
More shout outs. The band has still not talked to the audience.
_Thieves___Like___Us_ and _ICB_ follows.
BS: "Ed, try turning the compressor down a bit."
Somebody cries for "Transmission."
BS: "Turn the vocals back up a bit."
_Your___Silent___Face_
lyric: "Why don't you fuck off?"
Another shout out by the usual suspect, followed by a "one two three
four" and a nice "untie your shoe, you twat!". Nasty feedback
squall and guitar strum, in preparation for the instrument swapping
that precedes _Confusion_.
punter: "Raise any [lads]...stand off, let's go!"
A/B split at this point.
_586_
The TJ version has about 11 seconds of drumming that the others
don't.
A long break between songs, with the UK guy shouting on "C'mon,
lads!"
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "Uh, this next one's a load of shite that we copied off
Divine. It's called, eh, Blue Monday. Painful getting this
fucking sequencer loaded."
The UK punter yells: "Must be pretty shite anyway!"
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ ends the set.
Copy thanks to TJ.
His notes:
picked up mid-84, can't remember trader's name. Reasonable show, funny
version of Hurt. Annoying tape flip issue at very start of Village, and
it sounds as though the taper missed the record button at the very start
of Your Silent Face.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
Song peters to an end with synths and guitar, and an interesting
Hooky melody that I've only heard in between songs in their Joy Division
days (notably after 'Digital' at Plan K, 17 JAN 1980)
BS: "Thank you...thank you very much."
_Ceremony_
A bit of feedback at a couple of points.
First bit of audience banter at 1:53 on the tape.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "Thank you very much, I can see that you're easily, uh,
bright to st...[stutters].. estasticism..." [?]
Segues into _Temptation_.
_586_ and _Lonesome___Tonight_ follow.
_The___Village_
Tape flip cuts off a bit of the beginning of this song.
_Hurt_
Hooky says something, probably in response to a banterer.
I can't make it out.
BS: "Eh, let's all be here together in love and peace between all
mankind. No drink, no sex, no drugs, we're just here enjoying ourselves."
A few seconds later.
BS: "Peace, love, and..." [can't make out last part]
Interesting lyrics by Barney. Wish I could make what he was rambling
about.
Some heckling beteen songs, not all of it in German. I hear "Nazi!"
Since somebody recognizes (?) out there, come backstage after."
And I then hear somebody saying "twat".
BS: "Thank you...[something, a few words] after that."
German lass says the band name.
_Blue___Monday_ ends the main set.
There's a cut, with _Your___Silent___Face_ being the encore.
"So why don't you FUCK off?"
Hooky ends it all with a long rubber-band like bass solo. There's
a couple of seconds of post-gig venue music before the tape cuts.
Source is a tape from my archives, as well as an MP3 downloaded
from Soulseek(?) derived from the same source, with the tape being
much better quality.
Bernard notes, "Can't moan about us coming on late now."
(missing from the MP3-downloaded version)
_Face___Up_
Early version, with a synth false start. Extended intro.
(see http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs84.html#NO-840514.faceup
for lyrics)
BS: "Thanks very much. That was a new song, we never played it
before." (of course forgetting, intentionally or not, that the group
*did* play it on 19 Mar 1984 at Caesar's Palace in Bradford)
_Everythings___Gone___Green_ segues into _Temptation_. There's
a brief dropout within Barney's first verse of the latter (about
six minutes in or so). Right before the "Oh, you got green eyes"
bit, Hooky yells out, "And [??] happens when you all go out on strike!"
_Confusion_
BS: "Alright, you're gonna start to get a majority vote on everything."
(likely in reference to having audience yelling out what song to play
next)
(and afterwards)
BS: "Thank you very much, that's dedicated to all the fat bastards in
the audience."
Lots of cries for Ceremony. The Order perform _Your___Silent___Face_
instead. Bernard sings "why don't you...fuck up as..." (can't
make out last word)
A good-sized pause between this and the next track, _Leave___Me___Alone_.
A couple of stereo field shifts, likely due to the taper moving around.
_Hurt_
BS: "Why don't you all stand up? (cheers) It's only photographers that
are allowed to stand up."
Terrific rendition.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
BS: "This...this next song is all about hate."
_Age___Of___Consent_
PH: "Shhh...you've got a good band it's no one[?] to think. This is...
eh, 'Coals For Newcastle'"
BS: "See...who said it was shit, eh?"
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Debut performance!
PH: "Shhh..."
BS: "This one's a new song, it's called 'I've Got A Cock Like The M1'"
This has a different bass sequencer melody, a different bass riff,
and the main keyboard melody is simpler.
(see http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs84.html#NO-840514.tpk
for lyrics)
Gillian hits the keyboard at the wrong time at one point.
BS: "Thanks very much." Another 20 seconds of repeated synth-based
noise at the end.
(encore)
PH: "Shhh...you know this encore is costing us, uh, four hundred quid, a
bit more expensive than a fiver, innit?"
New Order than play _Decades_, which some feel was a practice run for
the version they played at Paradiso.
_Blue___Monday_
Intro has a break different than the usual.
lyric: How does it feel when you _hurt_ me like you do?
Buuurp! Listen for it.
Other notes...
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:43:04 +0100
Jonathan is right. They first played it at Royal Festival Hall on May 14
1984 (I remember as it was my first NO gig). Next line was "It's long
and thin and got a white line down it". They also did an early version
of Face Up and Decades. The gig was a benefit for miners.
"...I may have posted something about this before,but, Perfect Kiss was
first performed live in Woolwich, London in 1984 ..."
They were playing the track as "Kiss of Death" as early as June '84. I
cannot check as I no longer have the legion of tapes I once had but
remember them playing it at the Birmingham Powerhouse gig that month
(the first I attended).
Jonathan.
(indeed this is correct)
_Soundcheck_
Quality of this is perhaps on par as the tape I have, maybe slightly
worse. This is on CD, and is split into no less than 19 tracks!
The first time I saw you I knew that it was true
Your eyes were so green your words were so pure
I felt my king[?] hit the floor
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you (x2)
Knowing you like I used to do
Always so good, always so fine
For a long time now I've seen your face
Seen your face, seen your face
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you,
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Knowing you like I used to do
It wasn't the first time, it wasn't the last time
It wasn't between your legs I bet you
I would bet
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you,
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Always so good, always so bad
(lyric transcription based on 'Digital' Mike Garrity and 'twist's
efforts)
I've got a cock, it looks like the M1
I've got a cock like the M1...like the M1...like the M1...
This is about a man called me and you
This is the first time, this is the last time
I saw you in front of my house
How did you get your name in front of me?
Cuz I found you like I knew I should
Artificiality, artificiality, artificiality,
Artificiality, artificiality, artificiality
I looked to the right I saw my ride
its not your own fault....
Source: MP3 on Anthology Part One in misc directory.
Mislabelled as being from 12 Sep 87. Since then, I've received
the full show on CD.
From http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038
731&m=1124085831
A recollection from "vinz":
"Paradiso, Amsterdam: Curtis remembered! Saw the soundcheck, they played
several JD songs during the gig (LWTUA, Decades) and during the
soundcheck From safety to where... Also the fast version of Confusion
was tried out several times during the soundcheck. First track announced
as 'New Guitar One' later called Skullcrusher and w/out lyrics. Have
also a tape of this gig."
_Skullcrusher_ aka Solitude.
This is the only extant version with lyrics.
Starts out with Hooky, then the drums kick in.
The lyrics, as best as I can transcribe, described by David Fox as
"another great couplet, and why the scariest job on earth is doing
New Order's sound", are as follows:
BS: "Thanks very much."
The echo on Hooky's "Soul"-cry extends it to about five seconds.
After this song there's about a ten second pause.
_Lonesome___Tonight_
My CD source has a dropout on the right channel between 2:40 - 3:15.
There's guitar tuning after this one's complete.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
BS: "Thanks very much. To the Dutch group...I always liked you,
especially the ones from Rotterdam." Not to be taken at face value
given the reaction to them a couple of years prior.
_The___Village_
Another version that features "the sun, the trees, and the afterbirth."
More right channel dropouts at 2:13 and 4:14. Another pause between
this one and the next track.
_Ceremony_
Hooky's intro bass part starts off in the wrong key! After a short
while, the band comes to a halt, and Bernard utters the following:
BS: "I apologize for our bass player."
Another pair of dropouts, one at about 2:00 and again at 4:10.
The "watching forever" bit is sung in a falsetto.
BS: "Thanks very much, good night."
In "homage" to Rotterdam, the band leave the stage, leaving the
fans to shout out for "more", with lots of cheering and booing,
after about a minute, the cheers overwhelm the boos, as New Order
take the stage again.
BS: "Danke(?)...I was off for only a minute, eh...This is really
Rotterdam, this is so much about you..." (I think that's what he's
saying, anyway)
_Confusion_
Has the WRL intro sample. Left channel dropout at about 2:30 and
at 3:05. Major dropout at 4:35, and a loud whistle at 5:04.
_586_
A dropout at 1:05, a fairly long one. Comes back at 2:00
BS: "Listen punk, we're not fucking playing Blue Monday tonight
because we played it the last time we were here".
Which of course leads them to play _Blue___Monday_.
The intro drum sequence sounds a bit different than normal.
New Order leave the stage again (presumably, with the sequencer
still going) and the fans naturally start booing again. The
second break lasts about a minute and a half, although it
could have been longer if there were edits.
MP3 (from New Order Anthology Part Two) source sounds like videotape,
and 'crackles' throughout. This is the second (and last) time New Order
peforms this Joy Division song (not counting soundchecks). This is
an excellent rendition.
_Decades_
Help making this out would be appreciated for those who have a copy,
this may be the statement what Jon ten Have says they weren't performing
these songs for the audience, but in memory of Ian Curtis, though they
dedicate the song to somebody named Raymond.
Here's what I have for Bernard's intro:
BS: "I mean, you horrible bastards, you don't deserve this, but we're
not doing it for you, we're doing it for a friend of ours called Raymond."
The CD version has more dropouts at 3:20 and 6:03.
_LWTUA_
PH: "If you didn't deserve that, than you certainly don't fucking
deserve this!", leading to a fairly raucous rendition of the JD
classic. The second verse has Bernard almost inaudible in the
mix, so as a consequence he sings very loudly. Massive feedback
during the bridge, and the song comes to a close with a two note
vamp and a refrain, and then a wall of feedback. This is as
heartfelt a performance of Joy Division songs the band have ever
put forth.
_The___Perfect____Kiss_
Lady fan (who can be heard on certain other tapes) is giggling.
PH: "Good evening."
She says "Good evening" back.
Second time TPK is ever played. Instrumentation is similar
to the debut at RFH a week before.
Starts out with "You gave me the perfect kiss, you gave me the
kiss of death"...which is repeated quite a few times. No mention
of cocks, however.
Lots of cheering as the Order stir up some _Confusion_, followed by
_586_ and _Lonesome___Tonight_, followed by a bit of tuning and
_Thieves___Like___Us_, and then _Ultraviolence_, all played without
comment.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "Sorry for not saying anything tonight, but I can't think of
anything to say."
Segues into _Temptation_.
punter/taper: "W...da...Bang(?)...it's not real!"
_Age___Of___Consent_ and _In___A___Lonely___Place_ close out the
set.
New Order talk about the origins of the title of "Thieves Like Us"
before playing it live.
Gillian in green plaited skirt, Hooky in his leather jacket,
Barney in a white t-shirt and blue jeans, Stephen's in a frilly
shirt with a stripe down the left side.
Snotters' description:
> 3 songs from Movement played; the debut of Perfect Kiss "mk. 2"
> (as opposed to the radically different "mk. 1" arrangement)
> the hilarious interplay between Barney and an abusive punter at the
> beginning of Perfect Kiss Hooky's superb "tribute" to the club DJ
_Temptation_
Sound cuts out at 0:33, like somebody unplugged a lead (snotters)
Then the sound goes pear-shaped white noise-y between 4:19-4:22.
That's not a fault of the recording but of the PA, as other versions
of this recording also suffer from this.
BS: "Thanks very much."
_The___Village_ and _Chosen___Time_ follow.
(end of the latter)
BS: "It's raining.""
Volume fades down a bit and then back up. (snotters)
_Your___Silent___Face_
[Snotters version] Another sound gremlin at 0:50 or thereabouts.
Sound distorts between 1:30 and 1:45, and again between 2:10-2:45.
Small glitch at 3:50.
After Bernard says, "Why don't you FUCK off"...he then mutters
something like "head paste".
Barney tunes his guitar after they finish.
_Senses_
Morris is drumming his arms off. More distortion between
2:15 - 2:20.
Quite a bit of shouting between this one and _Denial_
More Morris on speed. He is a drumming deity.
Lots more shouts out. Steve even bangs the drums once more. :)
_Ultraviolence_
Neat sound effects starting at 4:15. At 4:35 there's an edit
which sounds like the sound crinkling.
_586_
Before the start, somebody cries out for 'Too Late', which gets
a chuckle from the stage.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Tape garbles a bit between 1:00 - 1:10.
Another long gap with punters shouting out.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Thanks go to Snotters for the help with the interplay betwixt
Barney & the hapless punter, as well as to the exchange between
Hooky and the DJ.
BS: "Diane, turn the foldback up a little bit please?"
Punter yells at Barney to "fuck off".
BS: "You fuck off, you big tit."
Cheers. Then someone shouts out "wanker".
BS: "In fact, you're a cunt, not a tit."
More cheers.
BS: "Or you're a bollock-brain, not a cunt. And if you want a
fight I'll see you in the dressing room afterwards."
This is, as Snotters notes, the debut of the modern arrangement
of TPK, but it's still different enough to the release to be interesting
to listen to. The main synth line has a different tone. And the frogs!
New Order head off the stage, and there's a tape break.
When the tape resumes, there's some reggae/dub-type music over the PA.
DJ: "I don't know if you'd get anymore, but if you want some, you better
shout for it."
So folks shout for it.
The DJ then plays the opening bars to _Blue___Monday_ but then stops it,
to loud booing. The reggae music comes back on. There's another break
at 1:37, resuming with more music.
And then New Order come back on, with what has to be one of the most
memorable exchanges to come from the band (between tracks, anyway):
PH: "So we've only come back on to tell the fucking DJ what a fucking
dickhead he is, all right?"
DJ: "That works two ways then, doesn't it, you know? They want more,
just give it to 'em."
PH: "Why don't you fuck off. Mind your own fookin' business."
The crowd is well riled up at this point, and a couple of punters hurl
insults out while the band soundcheck their instruments.
[snotters recording]
punter #1: "Fucking Sylvester"
_Confusion_
BS: "Can we have, er, a moment of silence, for uh, respect. Please be
nice to us."
Of course, the track starts right off.
Bernard then cries for the sequencer to be turned up.
Source: MP3s downloaded from Soulseek. 128k CBR. Sound is very
good.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_ is about 90% like the FAC123 version, but
with a more "tropical" beat, and slightly different bass riffs,
with no outro Hooky vamp.
BS: "Shut up".
A few seconds later, he gives an instruction to "turn the foldback
down".
"I know, you know, we believe in the chosen few..." is the chorus.
_Ceremony_ follows.
Really punchy version of _Hurt_.
A few seconds between this and the next one, _We___All___Stand_.
At the start, Barney calls out, "Callup me" (or something that sounds
like that). Then they segue right into _Leave___Me___Alone_, which
ends with a two-note Hooky styling.
BS: "Thank you very much. Very much appreciate you turning up
tonight."
_Thieves___Like___Us_
BS: "Love is the cure for every organ..." (lyric)
_Confusion_
BS: "Er, this next song might cause a little confusion for once.
Funny, eh? Don't laugh!"
Really pleasant high pitched two or three note refrain in
the background that I haven't heard elsewhere.
_Everythings____Gone___Green_ segue into _Temptation_.
Punter yells out "Keep trying!" as there's a couple of equipment
noises before the track emerges. Interesting intro drum rhythm.
This is a true combo version, at about 5:00 EGG transforms into
Temptation. Barney says "A-B-C-D" instead of the typical
"1-2-3-4". Right in the middle of the "Bolts from above"
mantra, Barney yells, "Turn the fucking synthesizer up!"
when Gillian obediantly does.
_Blue___Monday_
Dunno if this was played as the encore, likely that it was.
Features the same drum machine sound that TPK does (at the
1:00 mark, anyway). Sounds like Bernard's mic cuts out at
2:48, on the "past until completion" line.
The track ends in a harsh analogue synth line.
Recording courtesy of TJ.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
BS: "The new song is, uh, Thieves Like Us. Oh."
Mic on recorder is getting bumped while he says this.
female voice: "Did you(?) see now. Thank you. Sorry!"
(same voice that appears on some other '84 era recordings like
Chippenham and Portsmouth)
This is a short (3:45) version.
_Procession_
Synth noise at the start is in a different pitch than wont.
_Dreams___Never___End_
Some pops/stereo shifts from 0:28 - 0:32, not sure if they're
present in the source tape.
_Chosen___Time_ follows.
Very neat filter effect at the end of this.
_Your___Silent___Face_
Accidentally mixes in the staccato beat of Blue Monday at the start.
BS: "New version of...uh, Your Silent Face."
lyric: "So why don't you fuck off, twatface."
BS: "Andy, can you give us a bit more light on stage, we can't see what
we play."
_ICB_ follows.
An early version of _Face___Up_ is up next, about the fifth or sixth time
they played but it still has 'scratch' lyrics.
An example.
lyrics: "First time that I saw your face, I thought it was a shitty...
Your chin was long, your noise was large, your bottom was like fucking
garage(?)" etc.
_586_ follows.
Cut in tape at this point.
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Thank you so much, nice to be here in Birmingham."
Bristol is Birmingham?
BS: "Keep all your rubbish off the stage, please."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
This version sounds mostly like the release version, but is different
enough to be interesting.
House music starts playing afterwards, and Bernard and co. come back
on stage.
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
BS: "Be quiet please, I want to announce that we're moving forward(?).
The day afterwards."
Doesn't make any sense.
This segues into _Temptation_, which features sampled frogs at the end.
Another encore.
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "And we're just waiting for our sequencers to load up as we don't
use tapes at all."
At end.
BS: "I'm afraid we don't have...[something can't make out]...for.
From Brynn: "Regarding the above gig , which I went to, unfortunately I remember
very little apart from a few technical problems, but I do remember that the support
band were an Australian band called 'The Scientists', remember buying their album
a few days after the gig , still have today!"
Made available by IP Freely. A superior version surfaced through TMK.
Mike adjustment sounds from the taper and Bernard plucking his bass
before the start of _Confusion_. The sound fluctuates a bit in the
first minute as the soundman adjusts the mix.
At about 1:37 Bernard chants, "Roadie has my bass drum." and cries out
"DMX" at 1:50.
BS: "Thanks very much."
_Everything's___Gone___Green_
Hooky's intro basswork is very odd, to say the least.
EGG segues into _Temptation_.
A bit of feedback through Bernard's first verse.
BS: "Thank you very much."
_Your___Silent___Face_ is next.
Bernard sings, "You've asked what you've seen, you said...'Fuck off'!"
which he repeats a bit later on by itself.
At the end, it sounds like he says, "Amuse yourself, please."
_Lonesome___Tonight_ follows.
Hooky twangs his bass at the very end.
BS: "Hello everybody, it's so nice of you all to be here tonight with
us."
And a few seconds later, in response to a particularly loud heckler.
BS: "Shut your mouth, shitface. I don't mean all of you, I just mean
him."
_Thieves___Like___Us_
During the intro, one of the synth sounds like it packed up.
More shouting and squabbling amongst the punters.
_Face___Up_
Unique stuttering drum intro here, sounding like that of Blue Monday's.
lyric: "I have you at home tonight / You were such a stupid cow."
and "I've heard it all before, I've heard it all before / I've heard
two in '64."
As well as other improvised lyrics. Hooky vamps over the latter part
of the song, playing brilliantly here.
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Well, we've made a mistake on that one. Just to prove that we
don't use tape recorders. Who notices a few bum notes, eh?"
(TJ's version missing first line of above)
Hooky plays the opening bass riff to the song, stops, and then starts
up again.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_ follows, with quite an unusual (and excellent)
opening.
At 4:36, Bernard sings, "I know it's so good / I know it's so bad", which
unfortunately wasn't retained for the final release.
A nearly ten-minute epic. Amazingly good. Hooky's outro bass morphs
into the intro bass line to the next song, which makes its debut at
this gig.
_Sunrise_
The lyrics hadn't been fully formed, at some point, I'll make an attempt
to transcribe them.
Thanks to TJ for identifying LWTUA from a compilation of songs I had
at the end of another recording, detailed below.
Sounds like it was mastered from LP, sounds harsh, direct, and
raw.
On the tape that I have with these songs, Everything's Gone Green
(taken from 22 JUN 82) appears after LWTUA, followed by We All Stand
(taken from 12 MAR 83)
Subsequently, 'booomboom' from STG posted this gig, in excellent
quality, so I'm able now to do a full writeup. A few tracks were
also videotaped.
_Sunrise_
("love and death" version)
Has scratch lyrics, but more developed than in some August gigs they
played this at.
See http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs84.html#NO-840701.sunrise
for a transcription.
There's some crackling and PA music before the Order proceed into
_Dreams___Never___End_.
_Ceremony_ follows.
(at the finish)
BS: "Can you, eh, turn the guitar down and foldback a little bit please,
it's feeding back, because it's coming through the foldback."
Hooky then says "Shut up, twatface."
_The___Village_ is next.
_Confusion_
BS: "Go ahead and move about...[sequencer stops]...why don't you move
about a bit, you buhch of flag-waving bastards" [loud guitar strum obscures
the rest of what he says]
PH: "Will you turn the bass drum, Andy, down on the side fill...that's
what we need you for, Andy."
[Bernard plucks bass, and then the sequencer starts up again]
_586_
A bit of a pause here.
PH: "Lou Reed, eat your heart out!"
(Lou Reed had played in Roskilde the day before, I guess the band
had gotten a chance to meet him and they didn't exactly hit it off,
but that is just a guess, if anybody knows for sure, let me know)
Bass synth is phat and juicy here.
Song ends in wash of guitar plucks.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
PH: "C'mon, don't get impatient, we've been here for three fucking
days."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
A very long pause.
PH: [off-mic, shouting somebody's name twice]
BS: "Don't shout, you youngster."
(at about 0:50)
BS: "What we're doing now is waiting for our, erm, sequencer to load."
PH: "There's a deaf comic shouting for Joy Division...fucking hell.
There's only a couple naked who've got sore throats."
Instead of singing, "He took his final breath, now I know the perfect
kiss is the kiss of death", Bernard hums the vocal melody.
The median synth melody appears to be played live by Gillian and is
pretty bad. Frogs appear in here, perhaps for the first time.
(at the end)
BS: "Thank you very much, that was called Perfect Kiss, that's, uh,
a new song."
_Age___Of___Consent_ is performed next, with _Temptation_ following.
_Blue___Monday_
The refrain "How does it feel when your heart grows cold?" is repeated
several times in quite a unique fashion.
BS: "Thanks very...thanks...thank you very much. At least the
beat...[?]"
Barney chokes on one of the lines.
There's a video of a portion of this song, which is a grainy, shaky
single camcorder shot from the audience that films more of the punters
than the band! The sound on this is mono, but fairly good.
_Love___Will___Tear___Us___Apart_
BS: "Thank you very much...you deserve it!"
BS: (cough) "We're gonna play a Paul Young number now for all of
you people who wanted to see Paul Young."
(correction courtesy of Shug of NOOL...this also appears on certain
versions of the 1987-08-26 Pier 84 show) as a 'bonus track')
The video also captures some of LWTUA as well, including freaky
dancing in the mud, and Barney stumming away like a madman at
the end, and folks chanting and whistling for an encore.
New Order than come back on after the encore, there's an instrumental
bit starting with the bass synth, and then with Morris firing off a few
bars, and a Hooky's bass contributing to a jam I've not heard before.
Hooky says something, a bit of which I can't make out.
PH: "We're gonna let that slide before we [two words], if that's all
right, the fans are right."
_Face___Up_
Unknown sequence at the start, it sounds quite a bit like the untitled
song/jam played during the 81-84 rehearsals!
The intro synth portion is the same, with exception of the drum pattern.
Ben Rose helps with making sense of it:
"Said gig has always been one of my very favorites, and the Face Up is
absolutely spectacular. I think the lyrics, at least at the beginning, are:
I've know you for such a long time now
You have always been such a DIRTY cow
Your tits were big and your cunt is thick
From your cunt I'll always track (?)
I'd like to fuck you, etc.
Hope that's helpful. I'm pretty sure of all of them, save for the question
marked ones. If you or anyone else can figure out the lines, I would love to
have the info because I think they're absolutely hilarious. Barney at his
worst/finest."
BS: "Thank you....very much."
_Your___Silent___Face__
BS: "The next song is a [echo obscures this word] song called, 'While
Hopped Up'" (I suspect the song name is really in Danish, that sounds
like what he's saying, though)
Right before the second verse, the video colors go inverted.
It sounds like he gets a case of the woo-cups here. :_)
Barney sings "so why don't you FUCK OFF, you pathetic twat?".
You've kept me waiting for a long time now
I've known you for so many years, I've grown tired of you
You were cold, I was hot, our hair was blue
Long time, no, I felt my heart belong to you
Oh, love, death, love and death
You've kept me waiting for such a long time now
Oh, our heart has never been...everything...this way
You've told me that you love me but it wasn't true
But I wish I had nothing else to do with you
Oh, your love and death, love and death
Love and death and love and death
You told me that I was...such a long...
Your hair was..., your eyes were green
Love and death, love and death
See the following entry for the convoluted history about the venue/
setlist.
The mystery has been solved. In fact, both nights were
at the Rock-Ola, see here for the proof:
http://www.new-order.net/no/pix/flyers/Rock-Ola_8407.jpg.html
Here's the original (incorrect, it seems) setlist for this gig:
Thieves Like Us
James Thomas writes (on NOOL):
"I've just been reading Cabaret Voltaires tour dates in Spain '84.
http://www.brainwashed.com/axis/cv/live.htm
05.07.84 Etole, Madrid, Spain
06.07.84 Pacha Auditorium, Valencia, Spain (was mistakenly listed as Palma Club)
with New Order
07.07.84 Studio 54, Barcelona, Spain
10.07.84 Marbella TV Studio, Spain
12.07.84 Pacha, Valencia, Spain
This last date doesn't appear on this site or Waterrat and the forum
search hasn't thrown anything up. Is this an error?"
TJ replies:
"Yes it's a mistake. The Pacha and the Palma are the same venue, and it
was the first date listed when they played (I have a scan of the
ticket).
Here's where the mystery deepens though. About a year ago, Spotnick at
NOOL had a mail from a Spanish guy saying that the entry on the
gigography for Madrid Rock-ola was wrong, that he had been at the gig,
and the gigography it had the wrong date and that the setlist was
totally incorrect, that the gig at the Rock-ola had been on the 4th of
July, they had opened with Thieves Like Us, and that only one of the
songs listed against that entry had been played. This Spanish
correspondent said that they did Thieves/ICB/DNE/STYT/Leave Me
Alone/KW1/Ultrav/Conf/EGG/Sunrise.
I did some digging, and it appears as though they may have actually
done two gigs in Madrid, one at the Rock-ola and one at another venue,
and the tape we have is actually from the other venue but has been
confused with the Rock-ola show. That would mean that there is another
Madrid gig out there we don't have a recording from, and we don't know
the correct venue for the show we do have!"
Update: the mystery has been solved. In fact, both nights were
at the Rock-Ola, see here for the proof:
http://www.new-order.net/no/pix/flyers/Rock-Ola_8407.jpg.html
From JB's writeup of the DIME seed:
"The day before the perfect gig (Barcelona '84 - not to be missed,
especially the drewc-remaster), this concert wasn't too bad, either.
Starting off with a rare outing of "The Him", it also features the
standard (for that point in time) EGG-Temptation pairing and an
ultra-cool Ultraviolence. The early rendition of "The Perfect Kiss" that
closes the proceedings may be riddled by equipment failure at the start,
but the band manage to overcome the gremlins and work their way to a
perfect climax at 7'07"!!
65 minutes condensed into 12 FLAC-files that amount to 435 MB. This
audience recording was yet again provided by TJ; it merits an Agrading.
The tape flip occurred between Thieves Like Us and
Ultraviolence; the dying keyboard at the end of TLU is abruptly cut
short and the very beginning of Ultraviolence is also missing. The Him
cuts in after the opening bars, but other than that the recording is
complete."
_The___Him_
Only played two times thereafter.
This version just ends at the point where the band do a near-stop
and resume the song.
_The___Village_
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much."
_Dreams___Never___End_
They do this one to plenty of cheering at the end, followed
by scattered applause and whistling as the Order get ready
for one of their _Everythings___Gone___Green_ into _Temptation_
segues.
_ICB_
Bernard's singing is at a higher register than wont for this
one.
_Thieves___Like___Us follows. Quick fade-out of tape.
_Ultraviolence_
Quick fade-in.
Great riff near the end, too bad this ends so soon.
_Denial_
The usual drum-murder workout.
_Your___Silent___Face_
At the 2:00 mark:
Bernard sings "no colors, just silence", and then declaims "Down...[couple of
words lost to reverb]". Then "The rise and fall of shame" followed by "Down!"
There's a lot of drum sequencer soundchecking in between the main set
and the encore track, which is a nearly developed version of _The___Perfect___Kiss_.
Waterrat's listing is *missing* the final two tracks,
which are Everything's Gone Green and Temptation.
They were apparently not included in the original
FM broadcast. EGG apparently segues into Temptation.
Have a video of Ceremony and the last three tracks
performed at that concert. The most noteworthy
thing being that Barney performed topless! Not to
mention that his '84-era "new wave mullet", dyed
blonde streaks is not to be missed!
It's too bad the quality of the video is fairly
poor, but the audio portion is fine.
Also, the version of "Hurt" was labelled in
the video as "Cramp", odd considering that as
the B-side of Temptation, and had been in New Order's
set since November 1981, with the last time that
song being played was on 27 Feb 1986 in Wolverhampton.
Barney's riffing during the ending of Age of Consent
is frentic.
Writeup, from outstanding quality CD source.
_Your___Silent___Face_
One word. Amazing. And it's just the opener.
_The___Village_
The sequence of the lyrics is very different than the LP version.
The high pitched wooing is also notable.
_Ceremony_
This is the version that made Retro (if you believe that latter's
tracklisting). I haven't done a comparison to find out if the
Retro track had been remixed, but I suspect that it has.
_Skullcrusher_
A few seconds of guitar plucking before Skullcrusher lands like a
ton of bricks.
Here's a transcription of Skullcrusher:
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs84.html#NO-840707.skull
The scratch lyrics include a couplet that close out Face Up:
"Your hair was black, your eyes were blue/
Guess what I'm gonna do to you!"
There's a few seconds of silence between this and the next track.
_We___All___Stand_
BS: "The next song needs thinking about a lot...but eventually
starts..."
Then follows Lonesome tonight...with a drawn out Hooky bass intro.
_Confusion_
Barney calls out "hi hat" during one of the "you just won't believe"
me lines about a minute in. The live mix is strange, deemphasizing
the main synth lines over the other electronics and stringed
instruments. Ends with a few bass notes from Barney.
_Hurt_ and _Age___Of___Consent_ follow. Bernard's vocals are a bit
buried during the latter. Stunningly good, both.
Don't know quite what to make of _Blue___Monday_, though. The Roland
808 doing percussion during the first bit (if that's what it is) is an
interesting touch.
Interesting thirty second improvisation between this and the next
track, Hooky *almost* tantalizes us with the bassline of Love Will
Tear Us Apart...then they get into _Everythings___Gone___Green_,
with a fierce echoed "Show me!" as emotional keystone...seamlessly
segueing into _Temptation_.
I saw you watching here for today at me
I saw you keeping eyes all free
You heard me when I called you fat
Your hair was black and you eyes were blue
Guess what I'm going to do to you!
You told me and I told you
Source: Lars Nellemann's Anthology MP3 collection. Has distortion
consistent with overly aggressive noise reduction.
Don't know if there are more than the five tracks listed.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
My version has a cut at about 4:00 in.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Spanish announcer talks though the start, making the below quote only
an approximate attempt to ascertain what's actually being said.
BS: "I'd like you take the bass off the wedgies, Ed."
Guitar intro is badly out of tune. About 1:30 in, there's
a fair bit of distortion, but no cut outs.
_Denial_
During the intro, Bernard yells (presumably) at Steve to slow down.
Volume drops about 2:00 in.
_Blue___Monday_
Spanish announcer talks at start, but not over Bernard this time,
thankfully.
BS: "Thanks very much everybody. We're very grateful."
Hooky calls out, "Ready?".
There's a cut at the start (about 0:30).
Bernard's vocal seem more expressive than is wont.
There's a cut-out at about 6:25 in. Announcer comes in at the
end, which is edited after a couple of seconds.
_Sunrise_
PH: "Hey, let's go!"
BS: "This one is for our promoter, Emilio, the best fucking promoter
in the entire world. Hey, Emilio!"
This is the third time NO have played this. Most of the lyrics are
there but appear in different sequence or with different phrasing.
This song has a cut near the end (about 6:30).
Very good recording.
This features the full classical-type into NO were using in the
84-85 time period, only really heard on the Japanese '85 gigs.
Near the end of the instrumental intro.
BS: "...two"
PH: "Volume up"
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
Unusual kick drum sound, and a very hollow bass sound. At about
3:30 the sound clears up a bit as I assume whoever's in front of
the recorder moves out, but soon afterwards, it goes back to the
state it was before.
_Ceremony_ follows.
Bernard says something at the end I can't make out.
_Chosen___Time_
Some chanting afterwards.
_Leave___Me___Alone_
BS: "Thanks very much."
Feedback squall.
BS: "Can anyone fix this stupid fucking mikestand. Anybody got a
screw?"
_The___Him_ and _Thieves___Like___Us_ follow.
The latter ends with the descending keyboard line, like on the record,
instead of Hooky's usual bassplay.
A bit of riffing after _Everythings___Gone___Green_. Midway through
the song (about 2:15) Bernard yells out something (probably to his
soundman) that's buried in reverb.
_Confusion_
At 1:14, Bernard calls out for high-hat and sequencers down, if I
can make out what he's saying.
lyric: "Con-fucking-fusion".
_Age___Of___Consent_
Another break in tape right at the start of Hooky's starting riff.
It seems at this point the sound quality of the source improves,
or it's taken from a different recording, with about a minute or
so cut.
Another edit before _Sunrise_. This version still features the
in-progress lyrics, with "It goes up/it goes down/it goes up and
down".
It sounds like the tape slows down. Another edit.
_Temptation_
Tape still sounds like it runs slow here.
Bernard says something I can't make out after "It's no joke".
And features a "last fucking time".
JB's notes:
"From a fantastic festival line-up that also included Shriekback, Fad
Gadget and Echo & The Bunnymen, here's a fair audience recording of New
Order's performance (don't know who were the headliners). The band was
in very good spirits that night (check out Bernard's notable quotable
prior to The Perfect Kiss!) and played a very long set. Interesting to
note is that The Perfect Kiss starts with a minute-long synth drone
while the sequencers were loading up AND that at least one punter can be
heard in the crowd calling out the song title, which means that it was
already known by that name among the hardliners at this point in time!!
(Bernard Sumner also mentions the song title, but after the punter's yell).
The final song of the recording is a rendition of Sister Ray allegedly
played by both New Order AND the Bunnymen (and not just Ian McCulloch
alone on vocals). At least, this much can be gathered from The Bunnymen
Concert Log 1984 (http://www.angelfire.com/wy2/setlists/page5.html),
where it says: "We did 'Sister Ray' one time in Belgium with [New Order].
Me and Barney sang and there were eight people on the stage. We only taught
them 'Sister Ray' five minutes before that encore." - Ian McCulloch (talking
a load of rubbish, of course, as the band knew the song already from
their Joy Division days). To me, it's not clear whether this performance
was the encore of the NO- or the Bunnymen-set; all I can say is that the
sound quality is different (inferior) compared to the rest of the set.
Legendary is the debate among NO fans on various internet discussion
forums regarding the identity of the "Willy" Bernard can be heard
singing about during the song (Google yields no less than 2,530,000 hits
for new order willy!). Some have claimed that it's a loose adaptation of
the Velvet Underground's "Lonesome Ferryboat Bill", prompted by
Bernard's seafaring interests which go back a long time. Others insist
that it's one of Bernard's typical improvised ramblings about one of
their roadies. Me, I think he's singing about another "member" of their
entourage, but you be the judge yourselves, after listening to this
recording. Enjoy!"
A bit of audience chatter before the first tune, including a comment
about Joy Division.
_Your___Silent___Face_
BS: (during intro, about 1:15 in): "Some keyboards, Ed."
BS: (at about 1:45): "Some fucking synth now."
A bit of talking from the punters throughout.
BS: (at about 4:42): "For God's sake, turn the vocals up!"
More chatter through the intro of _Procession_.
BS: "Eddie, the guitar's not in tune(?), if you can turn it down a
little bit."
PH: "One two, can you turn me down Eddie, please, in the front and in
the side."
_Dreams___Never___End_
More audience chatter at the end, including a cry for "Leave Me Alone".
_Face___Up_
Early version, still having the "knowing you like I used to do" line
in the chorus.
BS: "It's all right, lad, just turn down the vocals a little bit."
_Hurt_
(at end)
BS: "Pretty [few unintelligible words]....put it this way, Ozzie, it's
good that you lost it."
_586_
Bernard cries "sequencer" in between lines (and breaths), at about
1:10.
Tape edit in between songs.
_Denial_
(at end)
BS: "Eddie, baby, you should be...guitar...these."
(can't quite make this out)
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
Segues into _Temptation_.
Main set closes out with _Blue___Monday_.
lyric: "If it wasn't for your misfortune, I'd be a fucking cool
bastard today."
Bernard then breaks out into spontaneous potty-verse.
BS: "I said yes, I said yes, you bastard, you bastard.
Mothers, tits, assholes, cunts, mothers, tits, assholes, cunts."
Fans clap, and then start booing and shouting during the first
encore break.
BS: "This one's a song called A Perfect Kiss, it's a new song...and it
goes like this, we like to please you, not to tease you."
BS: "I'm just...sequencers blowing up."
_The___Perfect___Kiss_ starts out with an extended bass sequencer
drone.
BS: "Sorry about the slight delay...it's not working, Ozzie!"
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much, we deserve it!"
_Sister___Ray_
Ian McCulloch on vocals.
This begins the first in a long line of memorable profanity-laden
stream-of-consciousness lyrical turns for this song performed live
by New Order.
Fades out with punters chanting, "We want more, we want more..."
Source taken from Dreams Never End site. 128k MP3. Sound is fair to
good, this is probably a few generations off the master judging from
the amount of tape hiss.
I also have this on cassette, which is likely a dub of the following:
http://www.worldinmotion.net/neworder/discography/bootlegslp&cd/1/15-08-84.htm
This source misses The Village and 5-8-6.
_Face___Up_
BS: "One two." (missing on the KL version)
Impressive bass synth notes on what I presume is the intro tape, right
before Face Up starts, with an extended intro. About 1:20 in, the tape
dynamics change (like somebody removed some EQ or took off Dolby B) and
treble/hiss make their appearance. At 1:45 the bass kicks in.
The improv is like the other developmental versions, but features the
couplet:
"Your hair was blue and your eyes were green/
Guess where we never have been"
Any additional help with lyrics transcription would be appreciated.
Nice bass/drum break at 4:15...as well as "for a long time now I have
seen your face" downbeat bridge vocal.
Outro bass riff very different than the release version.
_Thieves___Like___Us_
BS: "Eddie, some more guitar from the side fill..."
Lots of chanting to the melody. This is a very abbreviated version,
Bernard starts in during the opening keyboard riff.
A bit of a right channel drop at around 2:50 on the KL version.
BS: "Thanks very much". A bit of chatter by those around the taper.
_Age___Of___Consent_
Bernard is having problems with his mic and vocals...first lines cut
off and singing "won't you please let me know..." in entirely too high
a register. Classic!
_Your___Silent___Face_
There's some loud squeaking that might be a guitar-based noise.
The fans chant along to the keyboard riff. Instead of "piss off",
Barney says "fuck off".
_Sooner___Than___You___Think_
We hear a tiny bit of strumming before the Order start in.
BS: "Hello everyone it's _good_ to be here..." (the recorded version
has _nice_)
There are quite a few other differences with respect to the vocal phrasing
in the first stanza.
The chorus is "You know that we love you/Yes we do" instead of "You know
what I mean/Yes you do"
_ICB_
I think Barney says something about the lights, but it's hard to make
out.
This song was to be played only two more times after Sunderland.
_The___Village_
BS: "Right lads. We _think_ the sequencer's broke. We think we need
the other one."
Cut at 3:13 on the KL source.
_586_
Fans call for Procession. Some dropouts at the start of this track on
the KL version.
_Sunrise_
BS: "We're going to try a new song. We might get it right."
Whistles.
_The___Perfect___Kiss_
A couple of sequencer blips before the track starts up.
Still a bit different than the released version, even if it's mostly
been worked out.
Punters chant, "Here we go, Here we go..."
_Blue___Monday_
BS: "We already played Blue Monday. We're never going to play it
again! I'm sick to death of that song."
Hooky adds a bass bit he usually does before Confusion...of course
the Order go ahead and play it anyway, to great fan delight.
Review (NME, Dave Massey): BLUE WEDNESDAY IN SUNDERLAND
The foyer of the Mayfair Suite - a large grey box on concrete stilts
just a few hundred yards away from two massive half-finished oil tankers
on the banks of the Wear - could be that of a Mecca ballroom almost
anywhere in Britain.
The Decor is the ultimate in sophisticated tack, bouncers roam the deep
read carpets in dinner jackets and ties and the clientele are offered
the opportunity to alternate pints of 'heavy' with hamburger supper at
the food bar upstairs.
But tonight's crowd are not the kind that would usually frequent such a
place. Tonight is the opening night of New Order's most extensive
British 'tour' to date; eight concerts already announced with others
being added as the Smiths Of Sheffield transit hurtles south towars such
rock kernels as Margate, Chippenham and Gloucester.
With over 1,000 tickets sold in advance and a couple of hundred on the
dour the venue is comfortably full if not exactly buzzing with tense
anticipation. The fans arrive in ones and twos, the dress casual
without the capital C. The hardcore element are identified not by black
leather or green canvas, but by the portable cassette recorders tucked
surrepitiously under the arm.
Debbie, 15, from Hartlepool is there "just to say I've been" and also in
the hope that more bands will visit the town if this concert is well
supported. Her friend Sharon is less enthusiastic: "I think they're a
bunch of miserable bastards, but I'd go and see any band that play in
Sunderland on a Wednesday night. We haven't had anyone here since
Musical Youth."
The couple in identical Wayfarer shades (in a place _this_ dark?) are
more partisan, being committed fans who have travelled up from Teeside.
He sees the whole thing as a carry-on from Joy Division. She likes the
lyrics and the "depressing" sound: "The whole legend that surrounds
them obviously has a lot to do with their appeal, and the death of Ian
Curtis just perpetuated the myth. But we've just come for the music."
Joanne, 20, came "because I like seeing new bands and I heard this lot
on the radio and they sounded good." Keith 22, thinks that 45-minute,
non-encore sets are disrespectful to the audience. His friend John, 19,
brings up the supposedly fascist undertones of the band name only to add
that he thinks any such allegations are totally unfounded.
Barry, 23, has been following the group since JD days and admits slight
disappointment at the music they are making now: "I'm not really that
heavily into the dance stuff. They also seem to be more poppy now, but
they're still good musicians. They're still one of the few groups worth
bothering about. They keep on the outside of things, so you're always
wondering what they're really about and the only way to do that is
really through the lyrics. They appeal to me for what they do."
Richard, 24 and sporting a mop of unruly blond hair, is more succinct:
"They're a heavy metal band who can't play...but they're a good heavy
metal band that can't play."
In the event, Richard is wrong. New Order have played some truly
leaden, stuttering messes of live sets in their time, but when they are
at their best there are few to touch them. They possess a muscularity
that is almost awesome but marry it to a textural and emotional range
that still cajoles and suprises their audience.
They open with a newish song that should be the next single. Having
only heard it once before at the recent Miners' Benefit in London, it
could be called 'I Cannot Stand The Very Thought of You' although will
probably turn up as 'Obsession' or something equally enigmatic. [of
course, the author is referring to 'Face Up']. Whatever, it is simply
superb, a perfects sequel to the explosive pop rush of 'Temptation'.
This rhythm and dynamism is the closest rock music comes to a racing
pulse.
The song sets the tone for the first part of the set, the group rushing
through 'Thieves Like Us', a rigourous quartet of tracks from 'Power,
Corruption, And Lies' and even 'ICB' of 'Movement'. This music is far
from cold or clinical, its raw intensity and drive one of the few
remaining live rock noises that is positively uplifting.
One of the slightly more dubious characteristics of a New Order set
rears its head as the group move on to unrecorded pieces like 'You Know
We Love You'(?), which at the moment consists of little more than the
'title' phrase repeated endlessly over a rather old-fashioned jam.
New Order, by virtue of their naturalness, are not perfectionists and
have long made a habit of dubting half-formed songs, It's an interesting
ploy, but one that doesn't always come off. As singer Barney remarks in
one of his limted audience-asides, "We're going to try a new song now,
we might get it right..." [This song is 'Sooner Than You Think'].
And the new pieces are liberally splattered towards the end of the set,
'I Thought I Knew You' ['Sunrise'] being powerfully physical with more
than a hint of an old JD bassline and 'Have Some Sun' ['The Perfect
Kiss'] developing the polyrhythmic dance sensibility of the group's
flirtation with New York hip hop.
And what of 'Blue Monday'? As the Mayfair breaks into a massed chorus
of 'Howay The Lads' - the North-East's answer to Scotland's 'Here We Go,
Here We Go' - Barney returns to the lip of the stange and informs them
that the group no longer perform that particular opus.
"We're never going to play that song again. In fact we're sick to death
of it!"
By now, the rest of the group are onstage, plugging in their instruments
and beginning to tune up again. New Order no longer "don't do encores",
of course, and within seconds are into the opening bars of 'Blue
Monday'.
The joke was probably on Barney.
This writeup only encompasses the soundcheck for this gig, as well as a
transcription of a review. Writeup for gig itself is forthcoming.
Soundcheck
The portion I have is only about 9:19 long. It was unlabelled
on the source cassette, but the timing and playlist seem to match
with the given date on the Waterrat listing. The levels on the recording are
extremely loud.
Here's the itinerary:
0:00 Drums for KW1
Review (excerpt) by Paul Bursche (Melody Maker, I think)
_I___can___and___shall___obey_
New Order have been known to play a mere 30 minute set, so there's none
of this hanging around in the bar that greets most bands. Everyone's
trying to get as near to the front as they can -- and what a mixture
they are!
Hull's disco kids mingle with mohicaned punks and youths from Manchester
in long macs. There are girls, there are boys, young and old. It's the
sort of audience most other bands lie about having. After the success
of 'Blue Monday' New Order's audience is truly universal. The group
used to make a point of never playing much of their old material, but
tonight we're treated to New Order's Greatest Hits. They kick off with
'Blue Monday' and then weave their way through 'Temptation', 'Ceremony',
'Everything's Gone Green' and 'Thieves Like Us'.
The band, note, actually seem happy to be playing. Lead singer Bernard
Albrecht continually grins at his companions, while drummer Steve Morris
practices spectacular leaps from his drum kit to the computer so he can
feed in countless floppy discs. The combination of live and computer
sound is particularly impressive. Everything is loud but clear.
_Ships___in___the___harbour_
At first the audience seem a little overawed by the occasion. It's
all very well getting depressed in your own bedroom to Joy Division, but
having living legends in your own backhard is something else again.
But The happy mood is catching, and by the time the band finally leave
the stage, after a solid hour of thumping dance music, they leave an
exhilarated, sweating throng.
Two minutes later the band troop back out to do an encore! No-one can
quite believe it, but the extra track played sets the seal on what's
been quite a night.
When the band finally depart, City Hall is buzzing, and outside the
bootleg merchants are doing their trade in earnest. A random poll
reveals most people are very pleased with their lot.
Writeup of gig
From a first-generation copy taped and made by Simon Park, using a Technics
deck. Many thanks for his contribution. Sound is very good, and the
performance is AMAZING. I'm also lucky to have a different source
of this, which I believe was taped by a mate of TJ's.
New Order open with _Blue___Monday_. The mic is tapped at about 0:27
on the Park tape (noted for source identification purposes) .
lyric: "If it wasn't for your misfortune, I'd be a real big bastard today."
_Ceremony_
(at the end)
BS: "Thanks a lot, you motherfuckers, we'll give you some rock n' roll
now. You motherfucking fucking mothers."
(another mic tap on Park version)
_Everythings___Gone___Green_
At 1:45, Bernard sings "It seems like I've been here before, it seems
like I've been to Hull before."
lyric: "A halo that covers my bollocks."
"Show me" bit amplified and echoed. Well at least the whoop afterwards,
anyway.
Segues right into _586_, which segues into _Temptation_. Wow.
Loud cheering, and the band then get right into _Lonesome___Tonight_.
The band finally stops, and tunes up, while punters shout out.
Morris pounds on his drums in the meanwhile.
_Sooner___Than___You___Think_
BS: "Try doing the sequencer, the [word]...the tech[?]."
The beginning of the song obscures what Barney says after that,
I can make out something that sounds like "Testing...".
lyric: "If i knew I didn't miss you, if i were a thousand miles from there."
Chorus is "We know we love you". There's some other differences, but is
a little more solid than the one performed the night before. Left
channel dropout at the 3:00 mark, for maybe about a minute...this
is possibly a problem with the mic positioning, and not the tape itself.
The TJM source has a dropout at about 4:55.
_Confusion_
BS: "Our next song is a fast one, cuz we know that most of our audience
are meatheads. So is Steve!"
(Thanks Simon for the correction on the last part. The TJM version is
missing Bernard's statement up to "audience".)
Bernard yells out "Don't do it!" after the first verse. Left channel
cuts out before the A/B cut on the Park copy.
_Age___Of___Consent_
BS: "Just our wake-up humor."
_Thieves___Like___Us_ follow. There's a edit on the Park tape.
New Order come back on and encore with _Sunrise_. This version
features "you are
NO: 28 JUL 01 Fuji Rock Festival - Japan
Crystal
Regret
Love Vigilantes
Isolation
KW1 (Your Silent Face)
Slow Jam
Turn My Way
Bizarre Love Triangle
Close Range
Touched (Touched By The Hand Of God)
True Faith ('98)
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
60 Miles Per Hour
Blue Monday
NO: 31 JUL 01 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA Area One
Subject: (Fac33) Mountain View Show
> To: ceremony@monkey.org
> Subject: (Fac33) shorelines
>
> << The source you have has Bernard more shifted over to the right than
> Mike's. They're both comparibly clear, I would guess the neworderonline
> version was recorded a bit further away, it has a bit more audience clatter
> in it. >>
>
> I think this is Jason's version - he is a SP fan so that's why he
> went/taped/etc. He bought his ticket from a Schoeps taper who decided to
> take a holiday from taping. So I had a better seat/row, but I was on Hooky's
> side, whereas I think Jason was on Corgan's side, so he was having his own
> little field day. Jason uses (I think) Sonic Studios and a D7, but I can't
> really remember that well. Schoeps mics have a $4500 retail or so, but alas
> I don't think there is a Schoeps for this gig (Schoeps mics at Shoreline can
> sometimes sound utterly amazing, almost as good as Schoeps mics taped from
> the *spot* at the Warfield - eg, Underworld '99 and Kraftwerk '98).
>
> x
> mike
>
> From: Super User
> To: GaoBest
> Subject: Re: (Fac33) shorelines
>
> Jason Roth? Nah, I think he uses DPA4061s omni's into
> an M1.
>
> From: GaoBest
> To: Alastair J. Murray, ceremony@monkey.org
> Subject: Re: (Fac33) Glasgow/Last Orders...
>
> In a message dated 10/9/01 3:09:27 PM, Ally wrote:
>
> << PS. For anyone who'll ever met up with New Order's personal bodyguard
> "Sarge": be afraid, be VERY afraid ... (no joke!) >>
>
> Is that the "older"-looking guy with tattoos who hangs around with
> Hooky? At the Shoreline show he was glued to Hooky whenever PH went
> off the stage during the performance... tough looking guy! Um, so is
> that him???
To:
(last part he chuckles through)
NO: 02 AUG 01 Thunderbird Stadium - Vancouver, BC
NO: 03 AUG 01 Gorge Amphitheater - Gorge (Seattle), WA Area One
From: "Jeff Sheldon"
Subject: (Fac33) Gorge Ampitheatre [sic]
Jeff Sheldon
From: "Jeff Sheldon"
Subject: (Fac33) Gorge Ampitheatre [sic] Review
Regret
Crystal
Love Will Tear Us Apart
True Faith
Your Silent Face
Bizarre Love Triangle
Touched by the Hand of God
Turn My Way
60 mph
Temptation
Blue Monday
Jeff Sheldon
so why don't you piss off."
- -New Order
From: rdawson
Subject: (Fac33) Seattle NO show
Subject: (Fac33) Gorge!
From: al.jarvis
Subject: (Fac33) Area One, thus far.
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Gorge Ampitheatre [sic] Review
> loves America. Then he said, "Here's a song we haven't played
> in 24 hours."
> hills. I'm pretty sure NO had something to do with it.
> also made the point of explaining to the crowd that Crystal
> was their newest
> single and they need to go buy it "right now".
NO: 05 AUG 01 Glen Helen Blockbuster Pavilion - Devore (Los Angeles) CA
From: "Albert"
Subject: (Fac33) Los Angeles show.
Regret
Crystal
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Your Silent Face
True Faith
Turn My Way
Bizarre Love Triangle
Touched by the Hand of God
60 mph
Temptation
Blue Monday
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Los Angeles show.
From: John Frye
Regret
Crystal
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Your Silent Face
Turn My Way
Bizzare Love Triangle
Touched By The Hand Of God
True Faith
Temptation
60 Mph
Blue Monday
From: "Albert"
Subject: RE: (Fac33) [Fwd: Area One report: Devore (Los Angeles)]
From: "Dgital Girl"
I just returned from work where I got 4 hours of sleep last night and
went to work at 6am. I wasn't going to post until later on today because
I am so damn TIRED but after Albert mentioned my New Order experience
(or should I say Hooky experience?) I thought I should post now.
From: "Albert"
Subject: RE: (Fac33) My Review Of Area One In LA
From: al.jarvis
Subject: (Fac33) Cologne Mungersdorfer stadium
From: Dreams.Never.End
Subject: (Fac33) Cologne Gig
NO: 24 SEP 01 At New Order's Rehearsal Studio
NO: 04 OCT 01 Apollo Theatre - Manchester, England
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33)
This was sent wirefree using Orange Mail (www.orange.net)
band notoriously hostile to playing live. The band opened with recent
single 'Crystal', and while the show was heavy with material from
current album 'Get Ready', all three decades of their career were covered,
with hits like 'Bizarre Love Triangle', 'True Faith' and 'Blue Monday'.
The set also included three Joy Division songs - 'Transmission', 'Love Will
Tear Us Apart' and 'Atmosphere'.
To:
Subject: (Fac33) Manchester Evening News Review
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:14:14
> From: "robert dawson"
> To:
> Subject: RE: (Fac33)
>
> Okay, so I went to the website and saw news items under the headings of
> various NO/JD songs. Is that it? Was there some multimedia thing I
> didn't catch? Otherwise what is the point of sending these song titles
> (some 10 of them now) to the list?
>
> Am I just missing something sitting here with no sound card?
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:02:00
> From: "phi"
> To: ceremony@monkey.org
> Subject: RE: (Fac33)
>
>
> He's actually AT the concert. We're getting a blow by blow account
> of what new order is playing right at this moment.
>
> phi
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:10:08
> From:
> To: "Ceremony"
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
>
> So the whole setlist was...
>
> Crystal
> Transmission
> Regret
> Ceremony
> 60mph
> Your Silent Face
> Slow Jam
> Close Range
> Touched By The Hand Of God
> Bizarre Love Triangle
> True Faith
> Temptation
> Love Will Tear Us Apart
> Atmosphere
> Ruined In A Day
> Rock The Shack
> Blue Monday
>
> Wow!!!! Roll on London. Still happy I saw Love Vigilantes & Turn My Way
> in Liverpool, but Ceremony and Transmission being added is a rocking bonus.
>
> Still wish they'd stop ending on Blue Monday, I know they hate it, I
> don't love it much either, its always a simmering out ending with that in
> mind. Temptation or True Faith would be much better last - or Love Will
> Tear...
>
> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:41:57 +0200
> From: "Have An (tilde) For Dinner"
> To: ceremony@monkey.org
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
>
> >Bizarre Love Triangle
>
> Bloody hell. Does anyone think this should be banned
> from their setlist ? The version they actually play
> is really really boring, and lacks energy. I miss those
> recordings of live versions they played in the 80's where
> Bernard played guitar on that. BLT live 2k is really
> boring ! argh !
>
> >Rock The Shack
>
> Boo.
>
> >Blue Monday
>
> Can't they just stop using the original version, and
> press play. I was disappointed hearing that during the
> US tour. Not that I don't give a shit about Blue Monday,
> not at all, but the original version, on tape... Boo.
>
> The setlist didn't differ much from the previous & recent
> ones. I guess we'll get about the same stuff at each concert.
> I mean, where is Perfect Kiss ? Any chance hearing a new
> version of Round & Round ? How about Nineteen63 ? Any
> surprise, apart from Transmission ? No new songs ? No
> Sabotage or Player In The League ? These are good really...
> Decades anyone ? Mind you, they removed Paradise, which was
> a disaster at Reading... The rest of the Reading set was
> wonderful.
>
> Not much variation, really. :(
>
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:51:13
> From: "John Gardner"
> To: Have An (_tilde_) For Dinner
>
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
>
> Listen up ya wee monkey, BLT was greeted with rapturous adulation as it
> should be. Fuckin brill song.
>
> As for Blue Monday...well 'classic influential track' but my least
> favourite NO song. Temptation has and always will be the best one to
> end a gig with. New York 1981.
>
> Stockport Bear
>
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:52:21
> From: "John Gardner"
> To:
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
>
> > :Rock the Shack
> >
> > Queue for the bar just increased tenfold...
> > --
> > Chris Sampson
>
> Nope that happened during Slow Jam and Close Range! :-)
>
> Fantastic evening, even as an old bastard (aged 38) I was thankfully
> surrounded by similar at the rear of the Apollo. Memories came flooding
> back, and I can assure you when Transmission and Atmosphere were played
> I was not the only one with a tear in my eye, truly magical performance,
> even my bint was overwhelmed. Thankfully I'll be in attendance again this
> evening!!
>
> '..I've done it before and I'll do it again...' Primitive Notion
>
> So appropriate. :-)
>
> Stockport Bear
>
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:41:16
> From: "Hibell, David (CAP, EEF)"
> To: ceremony@monkey.org
> Subject: (Fac33) - rock the shack
>
> anybody else there think that barney got pissed off about the reception
> to that track?
>
> he did leave the stage a tad early during bm, leaving gillian on
> keyboards & steve to go it alone before kim & gillian had a little dance
> afterwards....
NO: 05 OCT 01 The Apollo Manchester
NO: 07 OCT 01 Barrowland Glasgow Scotland
Crystal
Transmission
Regret
Ceremony
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Atmosphere
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
(cancelled after 30 seconds when Bernard said "It's too fucking hard")
Blue Monday Encore
From: "colin kerr"
To:
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Glasgow Show this evening
they dropped rock the Shack after 30 seconds and no Ruined.
Totally blinding best ever I've heard version of Bizarre Love
Triangle and the band were totally up for it tonight. Woops
and hollars galore. Barney and Hooky having a right old spar
between songs, Barney laughing and Steve laughing and singing
along as well.
From: "Jonathan Scott"
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow/Last Orders...
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow Gigs (more); plus setlist corrections
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:11:45
From: GaoBest
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) glasgow 10-7-01
i'm starting to listen to this gig, my goodness they played
"transmission" and it sounds fucking great! I'm so floored.
I got this show on Monday and I'm finally having time to listen
to it.
NO: 08 OCT 01 Barrowlands Glasgow Scotland
swapped Transmission and Love Will Tear Us Apart.
Crystal
Love Will Tear Us Apart
- Bernard: "Can you guess what we're gonna play next?"
- Audience: "Transmission" ha!
Regret
Ceremony
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
*Atmosphere
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Transmission
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow Gigs
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:40:58
Subject: (Fac33) Monday Glasgow gig
To:
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:02:14
From: Deron Pease
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow Gigs (more); plus setlist corrections
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:11:45
O: 10 OCT 01 Brixton Academy
Ceremony
60 MPH
Atmosphere
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Blue Monday
To:
Subject: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:23:02
To:
Subject: RE: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:00:27
Cc: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: Re: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:08:42 +0100
Cc:
Subject: Re: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
ate: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:14:08
To: "New Order Mailing List (E-mail)"
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:20:20 +0100
Cc: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Brixton last night
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:15:24
To:
Subject: Re: (Fac33) what time.
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:28:45
> Hello,
> Can anyone tell me what time they came on stage
> and finished last night ? With the tube strike tonight
> I am trying to find the best way back ......
>
> Glenn.
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: Re: (Fac33) what time. (and setlist 10/10)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:34:27
NO: 11 OCT 01 Brixton Academy
Ceremony
60 MPH
Atmosphere
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Blue Monday
To: "New Order Mailing List (E-mail)"
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:56:55
To:
Subject: (Fac33) Hookys Cryptic Amps
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:59:30
NO: 12 OCT 01 Brixton Academy
(same as 11 OCT)
Ceremony
60 MPH
Atmosphere
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Blue Monday
To: "ML New Order"
Thieves Like Us!
Age of Consent!
Dreams Never End!
To: Ceremony Mailing List
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:05:13
To:
Subject: (Fac33) Bricks and Tonnes (a story of personal gig trauma!)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:00:07
NO: 19 OCT 01 Later With Jools Holland
To: "Ceremony"
Subject: (Fac33) New Order on Later . .
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:42:05
NO: 11 NOV 01 Olympia - Paris, France
Transmission
Regret
Ceremony
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Atmosphere
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Ruined In A Day
Blue Monday
From: "N21"
To:
Subject: (Fac33) Paris gig
Playlist is exactly the same as the UK shows.
I am completely exhausted, back home after a 2hr drive in the fecking
fog.
Tomorrow is me getting back to Paris AGAIN for the second show, but I'll
make sure to review the gig just before leaving.
+mentionned.
It was the "press-play" version, of course :o(
Dodo !
> I hope either N21 or anybody else proficient in French can translate
> what he's saying, assuming it's even understandable. The Barney of
that
> time period was hard enough to understand in his native tongue. ;-)
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Paris gig
NO: 12 NOV 01 Olympia - Paris, France
Transmission
Regret
Ceremony
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Atmosphere
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Ruined In A Day
Blue Monday
From: "N21"
To:
Subject: (Fac33) Paris Gig, Nov 12th
I didn't find Hooky very pleased really. He was grimacing at people
all the time. When he did so to me, I did the same.
From: "N21"
To:
Subject: Re: (Fac33) RAM gig this Saturday (1st Dec) + other stuff ...
> The band ignored him. At least it's not as bad as N21's "Vivid!" request
> at the Paris gigs :D
NO: 15 NOV 01 Columbiahalle - Berlin, Germany
Transmission
Regret
Ceremony
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Atmosphere
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Blue Monday
By Dale Johnson
(not sure if this is in fact Phil getting picked on again)
NO: 16 NOV 01 Palladium - Cologne, Germany
NO: 18 NOV 01 Cirkus - Stockholm, Sweden
From: "Erik Myrhage"
To:
Subject: (Fac33) Stockholm
Transmission
Regret
Ceremony
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Atmosphere
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Temptation
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Blue Monday
From: Calle
To: ceremony
Subject: (Fac33) new order in stockholm
NO: 18 JAN 02 Ericsson Stadium - Auckland, New Zealand
NO: 20 JAN 02 Gold Coast Parklands - Gold Coast, Australia
NO: 23 JAN 02 Hodern Pavilion - Sydney, Australia
NO: 26 JAN 02 RAS Showgrounds - Sydney, Australia
NO: 28 JAN 02 - Metro - Melbourne, Australia
NO: 01 FEB 02 - RA&HS Showgrounds Adelaide, Australia
NO: 26 MAY 02 Le Zenith - Paris, France
NO: 09 JUN 02 Finsbury Park Festival - London, England
NO: 15 JUN 02 Hultsfred Festival - Hultsfred, Sweden
NO: 22 JUN 02 - Hurricane Festival Germany
IT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS AND STUPID."
NO: 23 JUN 02 Southside Festival - Germany
Digital stutter at 4:05.
NO: 25 JUN 02 Lansdowne Road - Dublin, Ireland
_Crystal_
NO: 29 JUN 02 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
NO: 13 JUL 02 Old Trafford Cricket Ground - Manchester, England
NO: 17 FEB 05 NME Music Awards - Hammersmith Palais, London
NO: 20 AUG 85 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Centre - Oakland CA
N0: 01 MAY 05 Coachella Festival - Indio, CA
UK punter: "It doesn't beat Liverpool!"
NO: 03 MAY 05 Aragon Ballroom - Chicago, IL
punter #2: "Ceremony."
punter #3: "Yes, thank you!"
NO: 05 MAY 05 Hammerstein Ballroom - New York City
NO: 27 MAY 05 - Primavera Sound Festival - Barcelona Spain
NO: 28 MAY 05 - Parque Tejo (Super Bock, Super Rock) - Lisbon, Portugal
This was one of my first successful tapings outdoors... Initialy, I was
not very confident on the abilities of my MIC outdoors (not really made
for recording live gigs despite its good performance indoors) since the
weather was extremely windy (as you may hear at some points of the
recording), and also because the main sponsor of the festival was a beer
brand (Cheap beer = Lots of screamers) but, most importantly, the awful
acoustic the venue had. I can nearly say that this recording sounds
better than the live concert was itself! You can hear some people around
me talking throught the recording, but nothing out of this world. There
are some volume oscilations here and there, and the overall volume is
not very loud "per se", I like it just as it is but, if you don't like
it, maybe you should consider raising a few dB with Cool Edit or any
other program, feel free to do so. As for the band, they really seemed
to enjoy this concert more than anything else! It was their first time
in Portugal and the audience was really excited about hearing NO live
for the very first time live! They had some real competition that day
with bands like The Hives or Moby, but I think most of the people
present in that festival day was there for New Order. Bernard screwed up
Krafty by shouting the words which made Peter furious, starting a small
fight on stage (you cannot hear it though). The band delivered us a nice
setlist in an exceptional mood, and promised to return soon to Portugal.
I was thrilled for watching one of my favorite bands in such a great
performance! As for the recording itself, I think it's pretty good,
considering all the adversities I had to record this
(weather/screamers/mics), I was pleasantly surprised with the overall
quality of the recording. I'll give it a B!
NO: 10 JUN 05 Southside Festival - Germany
NO: 12 JUN 05 Hurricane Festival - Hamburg, Germany
NO: 24 JUN 05 Hyde Park - London
NO: 25 JUN 05 Glastonbury Festival
PH: "1-2-3-4!"
(his mic wasn't working, so this was only caught by the ambient mics)
NO: 30 JUN 05 Rock Werchter Festival - Belgium
NO: 02 JUL 05 - Traffic Festival - Torino (Turin) Italy
NO: 9 JUL 05 T In The Park - Balado, Scotland
NO: 10 JUL 05 Oxegen Festival - Nass Co. Kildare Ireland
NO: 14 JUL 05 Arvikafestivalen - Sweden
NO: 22 JUL 05 Les Vieilles Charrues - Brittany, France
Bernard has a green pullover.
NO: 31 JUL 05 Fuji Rock Festival - Japan
NO: 12 OCT 05 - Queen Elizabeth Hall London (John Peel Day)
NO: 14 NOV 05 The Apollo - Manchester
NO; 18 NOV 05 Oakwood High School - Eccles, Salford
Secret gig in a primary school for Hooky and the boys
New Order finished their recebt mini-tour with a
special performance at Oakwood High School in Eccles,
Salford (November 18).
'Regret'
'Krafty'
'Turn'
'Transmission'
'Your Silent Face'
'Waiting For The Sirens' Call'
'True Faith'
'Bizarre Love Triangle'
'Love Will Tear Up Apart'
'Blue Monday'
'Temptation'
NO: 28 JAN 06 Manchester vs. Cancer - Evening News Arena Manchester
NO: 03 JUn 06 Ejekt Festival - Athens, Greece
NO: 08 JUL 06 Summer Pops '06 - Big Top Arena Central Docks - Liverpool
NO: 14 JUL 06 Vinas Viejas - Boardilla del Monte (Madrid) Spain
NO: 15 JUL 06 Anilla Olimpica - Montjuic (Barcelona) Spain
NO: 02 SEP 06 Stradbally Hall Estate (Electric Picnic) - Ireland
NO: 09 OCT 06 International Centre - Bournemouth
NO: 11 OCT 06 Carling Academy - Newcastle
NO: 16 OCT 06 Empress Ballroom - Blackpool
NO: 18 OCT 06 Academy - Glasgow
NO: 19 OCT 06 Academy - Glasgow
NO: 27 OCT 06 Wembley Arena - London
NO: 29 OCT 06 Civic Hall - Wolverhampton
NO: 10 NOV 06 - Ginasio Nilson Nelson, Brasilia
>
>There was a VIP area in front of the stage for people who have paid
>the most expensive tickets, journalists and guests, like the Vikings
>and me. I got a photo pass but was almost kicked out the place by
>Sarge for taking too many pictures. We were only allowed to photograph
>the first three songs and I tried to keep photographing after this.
>Apparently, Bernard was annoyed with that. Oh, well.
>
>I know who is the guy who shouted "Same old shit!" and "We don't speak
>Spanish!" during "Crystal". It was, erm... Me! Being drunk and staying
>next to Alex in most of the gigs, I guess you will have to hear my
>shoutings a couple of times more.
>
>My favourite quote of this gig: "Such a fucking short fuse, such a
>fucking big mouth, man". Peter Hook said this to Julio Moura, who was
>screaming and jumping in front of him during all concert.
>
>It's interesting to note that Bernard played guitar on "Blue Monday".
>I think it's the only recent gig where he did that.
NO: 11 NOV 06 Mineirao Stadium - Belo Horizonte
NO: 13 NOV 06 Via Funchal - Sao Paolo
NO: 14 NOV 06 Via Funchal - Sao Paolo
NO: 16 NOV 06 Vivo Rio - Rio de Janeiro
NO: 18 NOV 06 Club Ciudad - Buenos Aires
NO: 17 OCT 11 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
THE village
?????????
Waitin for sirens call nummer
1963
Bizarre love triangle
(USeD to think the world...) forgot title...
586
Perfect kiss
Temptation
Blue Monday
Love Will tear
Regret
Ceremony
Age Of Consent
Love Vigilantes
Krafty
1963
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
586
The Perfect Kiss
Temptation
Encore:
Blue Monday
Encore 2:
Love Will Tear Us Apart
(Joy Division cover)
NO: 18 OCT 11 Le Bataclan - Paris
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
Age Of Consent
Love Vigilantes
Krafty
1963
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
586
The Perfect Kiss
Temptation
Encore:
Blue Monday
Encore 2:
Love Will Tear Us Apart
NO: 01 DEC 11 Estadio Obras - Buenos Aires, Argentina
Crystal
Regret
Ceremony
Age Of Consent
Love Vigilantes
Krafty
1963
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
586
The Perfect Kiss
Temptation
Encore:
Blue Monday
Love Will Tear Us Apart
NO: 10 DEC 11 Troxy - London
NO: 27 FEB 12 Vector Arena, Auckland, New Zealand
NO: 01 MAR 12 Festival Hall - Melbourne, Australia
NO: 03 FEB 12 Future Music Festival - Brisbane, Australia
NO: 03 FEB 12 Future Music Festival - Perth, Australia
NO: 01 MAR 12 Hordern Pavilion - Sydney, Australia
NO: 26 APR 12 O2 Apollo, Manchester
NO: 30 JUL 80 Beach Club - Manchester, England
To: faclist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [faclist] Re: Crawling Chaos - The Gas Chair
To: faclist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [faclist] New Order @ the Beach Club
Ceremony
Homage
Sister Ray
In A Lonely Place
Truth
unknown jam track/cover
NO: 04 SEP 80 Brady's Liverpool
Procession
In A Lonely Place
Mesh
Truth
NO: 05 SEP 80 Scamps, Blackpool
NO: 20 SEP 80 Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey
NO: 26 SEP 80 Hurrah's - NYC
NO: 30 SEP 80 The Underground - Boston MA
NO: 25 OCT 80 The Squat - Manchester
NO: OCT/NOV 80 The Basement - Brighton
NO: 13 DEC 80 Utopia, Hal 4 - Rotterdam Holland
NO: 19 DEC 80 College Of Arts - Rochdale
NO: 02 JAN 81 The Porterhouse - Retford, Nottinghamshire
NO: 03 JAN 81 Tatton Community Centre - Chorley
NO: 04 JAN 81 The Fan Club (Branningan's) - Leeds
NO: 12 JAN 81 Eglinton Toll Plaza - Glasgow, Scotland
NO: 14 JAN 81 Plato's Ballroom - Liverpool
NO: 06 FEB 81 Comanche Student Union - Manchester Polytechnic
NO: 07 FEB 81 Road-Menders Club, Northampton, England
NO: 09 FEB 81 Heaven Ultradisco - London
Live Review by Chris Burkham
(includes photo)
NO: 12 JAN 81 Eglinton Toll Plaza - Glasgow
NO: 21 MAR 81 The Boys Club - Bedford
NO: 22 MAR 81 Jenkinson's Bar - Brighton
http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/neworder/no_disc/noboots.html#dream
(except that the second "Senses" is from the gig, not the first...)
Hard to make out the speaking in the first part.
NO: 08 APR 81 Rock City - Nottingham
NO: 10 APR 81 Cedar Club - Birmingham
NO: 18 APR 81 Victoria Hotel - Aberdeen
NO: 19 APR 81 Valentino's Edinburgh
NO: 22 APR 81 Romeo & Juliet's Sheffield
NO: 23 APR 81 'Celebration' - Granada TV, Manchester
_ICB_
_Chosen___Time_
_Denial_ (titled 'Little Dead')
_Ceremony_
_Truth_
NO: 06 MAY 81 Forum Ballroom - Kentish Town, London England
Interview by Neil Rowland
NO: 07 MAY 81 Tabernacle - London, England
NO: 08 MAY 81 University Student Union - Reading, England
NO: 13 MAY 81 Palais Des Arts - Paris, France
NO: 15 MAY 81 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
NO: 16 MAY 81 Markthalle - Hamburg, Germany
NO: 17 MAY 81 Saltlagaret - Copenhagen, Denmark
NO: 19 MAY 81 Roxy - Stockholm Sweden
People in the city
People like you blink[?] and shout
Make me sick!
Everything's Gone Green 19 MAY 81 Roxy Stockholm Sweden
And shooting it up ... the world[?]
Position[?] it all above
Destruction brought up below
By the boardwalk
Down by the boardwalk
Down by the boardwalk
They destroy you sa...
Down by the boardwalk
Where people go...
Woo woo woo woo
(with syncopated mouth drum sounds]
Down by...
All you people upside down
One two three
One three four
Everybody hit the floor
Everybody hit the floor
Five six seven eight
Everybody's feeling great
Where all the hip people go
By the boardwalk
You people are so slow!
(melody of 'I feel love' by Donna Sunner
I'm in love x4
Wooooo...
You'll receive your help from below
Where nice people don't like you go...
Wooooooo...woohoowhoohoo
NO: 22 MAY 81 Lobo Disco - Gothenburg, Sweden
NO: 25 MAY 81 - Chateau Neuf Oslo
NO: 27 MAY 81 SO36 Club - Berlin Germany
NO: 20 JUN 81 Glastonbury CND England
NO: 06 SEP 81 Kultturitalo Helsinki
NO: 23 SEP 81 Phoenix Hall, Sheffield Polytechnic - Sheffield, England
NO: 25 SEP 81 Assembly Rooms - Walthamstow
NO: 23 OCT 81 Bradford University - Bradford, England
NO: 26 OCT 81 The Ritz - Manchester
guy1: "You're staying..."
guy2: "Get out of the fucking way..."
guy3: "We're all piggybacked..."
guy2: "I know."
punter1: "Thought this is the long one."
punter2: "Eh?"
punter1: [repeating himself] "Thought this is the long one."
NO: 06 NOV 81 - Perkins Palace Pasadena CA
NO: 07 NOV 81 Market St. Cinema - San Francisco CA
NO: 09 NOV 81 I-Beam - San Francisco CA
NO: 15 NOV 81 The Masonic Temple - Toronto, Canada
NO: 17 NOV 81 The Channel - Boston, MA
NO: 18 NOV 81 The Ritz - NYC
Barney plays guitar during the break where all instruments pause.
We go in sync
We (can't make out rest of the line)
Makes me sick
NO: 19 NOV 81 Ukranian National Home - NYC
Live Review by Tim Sommer
(includes photo)
From: CAR-RT SORT
Subject: early no gig review...
NO: 21 NOV 81 City Gardens - Trenton NJ
Dreams Never End
Procession
Truth
Senses
Chosen Time
Denial
Ceremony
IALP
NO: 22 NOV 81 Pepperment Lounge - New York NY
NO; 04 JAN 82 'Riverside' - BBC 2 - Hammersmith, London
5. Temptation (synth) t4 0:25 (cuts)
6. Temptation (full instrumentation, with guitar noodling at end) t5 1:40
7. Temptation (complete) t6 5:01
8. Temptation (synth + distant vox) t7 0:53
9. Temptation (complete) t8 5:20
10. Chosen Time (complete) 3:16
NO: 22 JAN 82 North London Polytechnic - London England
Live review by Lynden Barber
NO: 23 JAN 82 Imperial Cinema - Birmingham
NO: 26 FEB 82 Trinity Hall - Bristol
Wherever my heard goes, nobody knows..."
NO: 03 MAR 82 Blue Note - Derby
NO: 05 MAR 82 Saint Francis Xavier Hall - Dublin, Ireland
NO: 09 MAR 82 Tiffany's - Leeds
NO: 10 MAR 82 Tower Cinema, Hull, England
NO; 11 MAR 82 The Soul Kitchen (Mayfair Suite) - Newcastle
NO: 08 APR 82 Glazenzaal - Rotterdam, Netherlands
NO: 09 APR 82 Meervaart - Amsterdam, Netherlands
NO: 10 APR 82 Stockvishal - Arnhem Netherlands
NO: 11 APR 82 Muziekzentrum Vrendenburg, Utrecht
NO: 14 APR 82 Lido - Leuven, Belgium
NO; 15 APR 82 L'Ancienne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium
searching for the darkness,
Cut below the headlights
Cut below the headlights
At the old casbah in Cairo x 4
Burnt by the sunshine
Burnt by the sunshine
Keeled to the floor
Keeled to the ground
At the old casbah in Cairo..."
NO: 17 APR 82 Le Palace, Paris
NO: 09 APR 82 Meervaart - Amsterdam, Netherlands
NO: 24 MAY 82 Pennies - Norwich
Procession
ICB
Chosen Time
Hurt (faded out mid-song)
5.8.6
Denial
Dreams Never End
Truth
Senses
Temptation
NO: 25 MAY 82 National Ballroom - Kilburn London
Live review by Lynden Barber
National Ballroom, Kilburn, 25 May 1982
(taken from Adam "Aleph" Gardner's signature)
NO: 06 JUN 82 Provinssirock Festival - Seinajoki, Finland
Provinssirock, Seinajoki, Finland
6th of June 1982
1. Ultraviolence
2. The Him
3. Senses
4. Temptation
5. We All Stand
6. Dreams Never End
7. Procession
8. Ceremony
8. 586
TRNS: "So this group (New Order) is a must-see?"
TRNS: "Wha'?"
TRNS: "Hey, Sviikki!"
TRNS: "Yeah?"
TRNS: "Who are they?
TRNS: "New Order? Yup."
TRNS: "Some guy brought those.
TRNS: "Wha'?"
TRNS: "Couldn't find anything bigger?"
TRNS: "Yes."
TRNS: "Terrible rumble!
TRNS: "What might be causing it?"
TRNS: "Turn the lights completely off."
TRNS: "This one is an output".
TRNS: "Hey!"
TRNS: "Tuomas, try out the lighting crew."
TRNS: "Wha'?"
TRNS: "The lighting crew!"
TRNS: "All the time."
TRNS: "Hey lights! Any lighting crew?
TRNS: "Did you turn 'em off yet?"
TRNS: "Are these the lights?"
TRNS: "Yep."
TRNS: "Been off all the time."
TRNS: "All of them off?"
TRNS: "Yep. They've got the output in order.
TRNS: "Correct input on?"
TRNS: "Not the slightest clue."
TRNS: "Say what?"
TRNS: "So it wasn't on, right?"
TRNS: "Watch out for that one."
TRNS: "Did you have to grab that?"
TRNS: "Pretty good."
TRNS: "Pretty goofy ones they let on."
TRNS: "Not even the Gods could endure this."
TRNS: "Real toiling."
TRNS: "It was terrible."
TRNS: "Stop now already."
TRNS: "That guy went away?"
TRNS: "Yeah. A long time ago."
TRNS: "That geezer disappeared."
TRNS: "An' some more of this."
TRNS: "Yes."
NO: 16 JUN 82 Tenax - Florence, Italy
NO: 17 JUN 82 Piper - Rome, Italy
NO: 18 JUN 82 Tur Sports Centre - Taranto, Italy
NO: 21 JUN 82 Palasport - Bologna, Italy
NO: 22 JUL 82 Rollingstone - Milan, Italy
NO: 26 JUN 82 The Hacienda - Manchester
(3) Since then, another version has surfaced, which is more complete
in that it has a compere introducing the venue.
NO: 30 AUG 82 The Venue - Blackpool
NO: 11 SEP 82 Futurama Four - Deeside Leisure Centre, Queensferry, North Wales
Slower drumming
Faster drumming
_Hurt_ (instrumental)
_Temptation_
More drumming
Hooky checking the mics and other miscellany
NO: 19 SEP 82 Sporting Arena - Athens Greece
NO: 25 NOV 82 Palais Theatre, Melbourne
NO: 27 NOV 82 The Seaview Ballroom - Melbourne, Australia
NO: 29 NOV 82 Capitol Theatre - Sydney, Australia
NO: 03 DEC 82 Mainstreet Cabaret - Auckland
NO: 06 DEC 82 Union Hall - Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
who saw those dark eyes?
touch my skin
deep within
burn like coal
in this shithole
shut your mouth
A fucking bore(?)..."
NO: 08 DEC 82 Union Hall - Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
note: this is the mixing desk recording; originally recorded on
reel-to-reel tape, in incorrect phasing; phasing corrected in 1983
or 1984 or so; later archived to DAT in LP (32khz) speed.
note: there is also an audience recording, of which I've not
yet heard to determine if the 5-8-6 track is longer.
Made a real mess/
From the murder to confusion/
We'll turn away no more."
NO: 14 DEC 82 Old Melbourne Hotel - Perth
> 1. Temptation (cut in middle)
> 2. Dreams Never End
> 3. Chosen Time
> 4. We All Stand
> 5. Leave Me Alone
> 6. 586
> 7. Senses (cut off at end)
> 8. Everything's Gone Green
> 9. Denial
> 10. Your Silent Face
> 11. Blue Monday
> 12. Age of Consent
> 13. Ceremony
>
> notes: taped by Petra Kaiser (university student?)
From: "Peters, Norman (JHD)"
To: "'updates@new-order.net'"
Subject: New Order gig guide.
Australia
President. Perth raincoat brigade. 1983."
Procession
Dreams Never End
In A Lonely Place
Truth
The Him
Senses
Denial
NO: 26 JAN 83 The Hacienda - Manchester, England
girl: "What did you say?"
guy: "Hello? wot?"
another punter [in strained voice]: "What is going on??"
punter #1: "The Village. Have they..." [at this point #2 interrupts,
punter #1: "Yeh?" [synth]
punter #2: "What have you heard about the Village?"
punter #1: "Have they done that track yet?"
punter #2: "The Village, The Village. Is that the new track?
punter #1: "Yeah." At this point Bernard starts yelling to the sound
punter #2: "Oh...cool. Tell us about it! Is it [good?]
punter #1: "Yeah."
NO: 29 JAN 83 Great Hall - Cardiff
NO: 25 FEB 83 Kolingsborg - Stockholm Sweden
NO: 26 FEB 83 Kolingsborg - Stockholm, Sweden
NO: 11 MAR 83 The Ace - Brixton, England
Live review by Lynden Barber
NO: 12 MAR 83 Recreation Centre - Kingston-Upon-Thames Tolworth England
Subject: Re: Anyone going to the Apollo
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:14:58 -0000
NO: 23 MAR 83 State Ballroom - Liverpool, England
NO: 24 MAR 83 State Ballroom - Liverpool, England
NO: 31 MAR 83 'Top Of The Pops' - BBC 1
NO: 01 APR 83 'Switch' - Channel 4
_Blue___Monday_
NO: 11 Apr 83 - Coasters, Edinburgh
female companion: "Quite unusual."
taper: "They've changed 'round."
female companion: "Really?"
NO: 12 APR 83 Assembly Rooms - Edinburgh
NO: 13 APR 83 Pathfoot Hall, Stirling University - Stirling, Scotland
'You saw me on the outside'
'You sucked my ding-dong'...
NO: 14 APR 83 Tiffany's - Glasgow, Scotland
Too hard to handle
[can't make out this line]
Too tough to break."
NO: 15 APR 83 Pavilion - Ayr, Scotland
NO: 22 APR 83 Savoy - Cork, Ireland
NO: 24 APR 83 Rosehill Hotel - Kilkenny, Ireland (Eire)
note: FM radio broadcast; does anyone know which radio station broadcast
this concert, or the broadcast date? Does an audience recording source exist?
Was anything else performed???
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: (Fac33) Rosehill Hotel gig
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 10:22:03.0998 (UTC)
FILETIME=[87B49FE0:01C1733F]
From: "John Saunders" 'Dave Mings'
To: ceremony@monkey.org
Subject: RE: (Fac33) Rosehill Hotel gig
John
My heart will be with me
And when it finally stops
The synthesizer will be in tune"
NO: 26 APR 83 - Saint Francis Xavier Hall - Dublin, Ireland
NO: 09 MAY 83 Tower Ballroom - Birmingham
Oh so close to me
When I find out who made it
I'll throw[?] away [???] own teeth[?]"
You told me you care
But you think the cost
Stop laughing in bed
They hang down to the ground
Your nipples are for sucking
That's why they are round
NO: 10 MAY 83 Victoria Hall - Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent
NO; 27 MAY 83 Veronica's Countdown - Dutch TV
NO: 17 JUN 83 688 Club - Atlanta
NO: 19 JUN 83 Nightlife - Austin, Texas
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/HookLine/830619_01-AnyRequests.mp3
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/BarneySays/830619_01-GrowsStiff.mp3
Age Of Consent (bass)
Blue Monday (synths)
In A Lonely Place (synths)
Thieves Like Us (synths)
Tapers talk about New Order's tour iternary. "They toured in
Greece with the Fall and the Birthday Party" (presumably in 1982).
(edit)
bass noodling that is commented on sounding like "Wilderness",
and some other stuff.
More Thieves Like Us (synths)
More Blue Monday (drums/synths)
Sister Ray (guitar+bass/drums for a few seconds)
Ceremony (guitar)
(edit)
_Temptation_
(edit)
video game noises and scattered discussion..."it's about 7:20"...
Bernard does 1-2's...speeding ticket (68mph)...trying to buy
beer and needing IDs...
_Age___Of___Consent_ (false start) comment: "New Order on 45, let's
play 10 songs in 30 minutes!"
Procession (synth bit) / Confusion (sequencer bit)
_Age___Of___Consent_ (they pause for a bit and then restart, so it's
run through twice)
Hooky says something about the vocals out the side...have magically
reappeared, and then Bernard mentions 'Cries and Whispers'....
Some vocal mic checks by Bernard and Hooky.
_Cries___And___Whispers_
Bit of 'Maniac' by Hall and Oates over the PA
Confusion (drums)
NO: 21 JUN 83 Florentine Gardens - Hollywood, CA
NO: 23 JUN 83 The Fantasy, Fullerton CA
NO: 24 JUN 83 Echo Beach - San Francisco, CA
NO: 25 JUN 83 I-Beam Club - San Francisco, CA
Thieves Like Us 25 JUN 83 I-Beam - San Francisco CA
Why I'm your girl
I've heard you're a hundred assholes
Now with this song
It's called love...we masturbate
It's called love and we masturbate
It's called love...love love, love love love
In the boiling sun
I heard a hundred voices
In the heat every night
It's called love and it has it's way
It's called love [woo!] love love love
It's called love [woo!] love love love
I see you...a hundred...
Love is at home...
...it comes to you...
Someday we're going to treat you out.
...other people of ours
My eyes are plastic...
It comes to us
NO: 27 JUN 83 The Commodore - Vancouver, Canada
Woman: It's for me.
Guy: That's what I tried to tell you, you think everything is related
directly to you.
NO: 29 JUN 83 First Avenue - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Interview by Debby Miller
NO: 30 JUN 80 - Cabaret Metro - Chicago, IL
(http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-metro18.html)
NO: 02 JUL 83 St. Andrews Hall - Detroit
NO: 05 JUL 83 The Spectrum - Montreal
NO: 07 JUL 83 Paradise Garage - New York
>
> Thanks for the offer. I know someone who has a big collection of TP
> and I can ask him if he has Nov. 83.
Thieves Like Us 07 July 83 Paradise Garage NYC
In the pouring rain
I've had my bible(?)
In the pouring rain
I've felt the coldness
Lovers...In the pouring rain
Oh, it's called love
Oh, it's called love
And it belongs to us
Beat me to the ground
I heard the ....(?)
Of the New York Sound
And it belongs to us
And it's called love
And it's taken from us
It has so soon
My eye is like a bursted moon
My kent(?) falls down to the house so far
I can't burst out from a broken cow
It's caaaaaaled love
It beloooooongs to us...ooh!
NO: 08 JUL 83 Ontario Theatre - Washington D.C.
July 9, 1983; Page C4
Section: Style; Performing Arts
Word Count: 252
NO: 09 JUL 83 City Gardens - Trenton, New Jersey
NO: 20 JUL 83 Hacienda, Manchester
NO: 01 AUG 83 Beacon Theatre - New York
NO: 01 DEC 83 The Academy - Brixton, England
Live review by Dave McCullough
Interview by Adam Sweeting
You want to live with me today"
NO: 02 DEC 83 Town Hall - Bournemouth
http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/lv/New_Order-19831202-Ultraviolence_intro.mp3
NO: 19 MAR 84 Caesar's Palace - Bradford, England
Face Up - 19 Mar 84 - Caesar's Palace - Bradford England
Just the two of us
You know I hope, I hope it's always been the same
I've known you since you were sixteen
Between your legs I've always been
But your hairy twat is like a fur trap
Alone on our own just the two us
Now you left me all alone
To serve my pride(?), my very own
Just the one I need
Just make me fall for the rest of your life
I like shagging you but I also think
You are a fucking fat cow
You've got spots
Even though I love you
I can't leave you alone like I know I should
You've got a brain like a piece of wood
We're always meant for each other
Brother, someone so like my brother
It's been such a long time, now
It's caused me very much disgrace
You look like the Elephant Man
That's just talking so I can
I never knew it would come to this
It all started from the perfect kiss!
The perfect kiss!
The perfect kiss!
NO: 30 MAR 84 Uni-Mensa - Dusseldorf
NO: 31 MAR 84 Haus Nied - Frankfurt, Germany
NO: 02 APR 84 Volkshaus - Zurich, Switzerland
His eyes were dark and brown.
He looked at me like a torn (?)"
NO: 06 APR 84 Wiener Arena - Vienna
NO: 08 APR 84 Metropol - Berlin Germany
[tape is missing first part of this utterance]
(all of this is buried in reverb, very hard to make out)
Face Up 08 Apr 84 Metropol - Berlin
Your...was trapped in a drunken(?)...
Your eyes was green, your nose was big
My heart felt low, many lives(?) were hot(?)...
[can't make out a couple of lines]
Knowing you like I used to do
Yours and me, we'll look at you.
I love you like a piece of wood.
Our lives rebel from...you're good.
From the bedroom to the bathroom floor
Oh, you don't need me anymore
That belongs to my wife.
That's why I treat you like a piece of wood.
Oh, the devil will believe you
I have all of your time, a long time ago
I never will believe, I never will believe
I never will believe you
(last two lines repeated three times or so)
Our life was...
I knew you would...
Moving apart, moving apart
Moving apart, moving apart
Moving...ing..ing..ing apart
Moving apart, moving apart
Moving apart, moving...ing...ing apart
Moving apart
You want me so, and that was that
Moving apart, moving apart
Moving apart, moving apart
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Knowing you like I used to do
In your heart, this stays new
I guess you know the day
I guess you know...
NO: 10 APR 84 Saga Cinema - Copenhagen
The crafty buggers(?) are full of shit"
NO: 12 APR 84 Trinity Hall - Hamburg
NO: 15 APR 84 Galactica - Luneburg
NO: 14 MAY 84 Royal Festival Hall - London
From: "Steve Waller"
Subject: RE: (Fac33) Perfect Kiss
Face Up 14 May 84 Royal Free Hall - London England
You were up and I was down
I fell right down to the ground
Another suicide, my eyes were closed
You hurt me like as if you were old
To see the beauty and you were through
Always so good, yes that was mine
I said...
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you...whoo!
(reverb on last line)
For a long time now I've seen your face
Seen your face, seen your face
You were so good when I met you
You were so good when I met you
My heart broke into several pieces that day
My heart broke forever like that piece of [?]-dy
You were so high, I was so low
You were so close, you put on heat
And my skin[?] wasn't clothes so nice
It was your heart, it was your source
It was a bottle ...[two words]...
Your heart was cold, your eyes were bright
It hit me like a blinding light
I never felt touched by the same feeling
I would bet I find it hard
To stretch...new sorrows
I would bet I find it hard
To forget you like yesterday
A long time now I've missed you so
That has left a great big hole
A long time now you fainted into
The darkness...I followed you far
Always so fine, always so cute
Always so good, always so bad
Always so, so, so, so, so hard
The Perfect Kiss (aka I've Got A Cock Like the M1) 14 May 84 Royal Festival Hall - London England
It's long and thin, it's got a white line down it
It curls about, it curls about
There's crashes on, and service stations too
a night for us, just with you
Of all the things we need some now
Before the end comes to our home
You had a shotgun, you had a knife
You shot(?) at me and killed my wife
I won't get laid with them...cuz belsen was a gas...
You saw me with her long legs
You said 'I am at last on my own'
its not your own fault....
its not your own fault....
its not your own fault....
NO: 17 MAY 84 Paradiso Amsterdam Netherlands
I saw your face in this world to be born today
We have entered the city of ours someday
The light poured down on us from the sky today
Oh, the light poured down on the ground on us today
You saw your arms touch my thighs
Turn the foldback like it was at the soundcheck!
Turn the guitar up and turn the vocals up too!
Oh I have never met a cunt like you!
On the side to the ground we had such a long long time today
We flew in from Manchester it wasn't that far away
Death came from the sky above (x4)
I said...Death came from the sky/
Above.
(whoop)
NO: 21 MAY 84 Palais - Leicester
NO: 25 MAY 85 'Pop Elektron' - German TV
NO: 03 JUN 84 Powerhouse - Birmingham
punter #2: "Sieg Heil"
punter #1: "Wanker!"
punter #2: "Bring back Ian Curtis!"
NO: 04 JUN 84 Palais - Nottingham, England
NO: 05 JUN 84 Studio - Bristol
NO: 27 JUN 84 The Mayfair - Southampton
NO: 01 JUL 84 Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, Denmark
Your tits were like wild strawberries (????)
(garbled)
Sunrise 01 Jul 84 Roskilde Festival, Denmark
Love and death and love and death
Your love and death and love and death
Your love and death, woo!
Your love and death and love and death
Love and death and love and death, woo!
Guess with you I have always been
I've known you for a long time now
I've a big boy, you're such a cow
Well, right now, you're a two-faced stink
You think you just want a drink
Love and death, love and death
Love and death, love and death
Love and death...
NO: 04 JUL 84 - Rock-Ola, Madrid
ICB
Dreams Never End
Sooner Than You Think
Leave Me Alone
Your Silent Face
Ultraviolence
Confusion
Everything's Gone Green
Sunrise
NO: 05 JUL 84 - Rock-Ola, Madrid
with New Order
with New Order
with New Order
with New Order
NO: 06 JUL 84 Pacha Auditorium - Valencia, Spain
NO: 07 JUL 84 Studio 54 - Barcelona, Spain
Skullcrusher 07 JUL 84 Studio 54 - Barcelona, Spain
You heard me calling with that voice of mine
You felt that we were pure together
You said that I was just a twat
Oh, your tits are big and your bunny(?) smells so bad
I'm not sure I wish I was your dad
Oh, your mouth...the fact that you paid(?)
I'm going to fuck you up to pieces(?)...all insane
We are gonna put it through
You told me and I told you
You told me and I told you
NO: 10 JUL 84 Marbella Estadio Municipal - Marbella, Spain
NO: 11 AUG 84 De Panne Seaside Festival - De Panne, Belgium
NO: 12 AUG 84 Inside Festival - Halles des Forge, Liege Belgium
NO: 15 AUG 84 The Mayfair Suite - Sunderland
NO: 16 AUG 84 City Hall - Hull
3:20 Keyboards for KW1, along with drums.
7:25 Hooky tests his mike
8:00 Bass for Skullcrusher
8:12 More Hooky mic tests
8:55 More bass for Skullcrusher
